Riding position?

[commander]

first post so be gentle.

hi iv been riding for a few years now and i just want to know how to ride. sounds crazy but we all think were doing it right till told otherwise

so how do u sit when u start off. corners (fast) ie lean off kiss the mirrors? wight on what peg?
braking position holding on with ur arms? knees? feet?. wheres ur knee pointing and what are u feeling throw the bars. what line do u take and why and can someone with experience answer like someone whos won races. basely how do u ride from start to finish

[Drum]

How many years have you been spelling for?

Oh sorry, you said be gentle :whistle:

[commander]

not good at the spelling stuff. more intrested in faster things at school

[The Pastor]

weight the out side peg.

there is a good thread here
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=18719

[XP@]

Time to check out the Survival Skills section
and maybe hook yourself up with a mentor?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=49

[Kendog]

first post so be gentle. Ok

so how do u sit when u start off. On the bike seat

corners (fast) As fast as you can safely get around the corner

e.g. lean offNo need on the road

kiss the mirrors?Only if you love yourself

wight on what peg?On the outside peg i.e. The right peg going round a left hander

braking position Before the corner, so all your braking is finished before cornering

holding on with ur arms? knees? feet?. Less with the arms, more with the knees and feet

wheres ur knee pointingForward

and what are u feeling throw the bars.The vibrations of the bike and the bumps in the road

what line do u take and whyStart wide on the corner so you have the best view, and take the line that allows you to keep the power on the entire time you are in the corner.

and can someone with experience answer like someone whos won races.I won the '10km 35-39 male' walking race

basely how do u ride from start to finishStart at the start (often your garage) and finish at the finish (often your garage)

[Pwalo]

I presume you ride a sports bike? Perhaps you should book yourself a track day, and get a bit of professional tuition.

[Crisis management]

Try reading Keith Codes book "A twist of the wrist 2", he spells (no pun intended) out the reasons and best way to ride on the road and track. I found it informative, educational and very real world.

Good luck.

[commander]

Start wide on the corner so you have the best view, and take the line that allows you to keep the power on the entire time you are in the corner.
garage)

have you high/low sided yet

[slofox]

If you are interested in race riding, try to get a copy of "The Art of Motorcycle Racing" by Mike Hailwood. Best read I ever had on this topic but also a good basis for any riding.......

[MD]

I presume you ride a sports bike? Perhaps you should book yourself a track day, and get a bit of professional tuition.
His profile states that he has a green bike. To improve his riding I think he really needs to change to a blue bike first. Then progress back up to green and finally, when fully experienced ...a red bike. It's all about the colour. Red is always faster.
This thread is going to become amusing.
Sorry Commander, I'm not poking fun at you (had a few beers actually- that doesn't improve your riding by the way). But your questions cover about everything it's taken most of us years to learn.
Take it easy, no need to be a racer in year one, and get lots of hours under your belt. It's quite hard to improve your riding any further if you are dead.

[puddytat]

Its quite a bit like riding a bicycle, have you riden one? What I mean is that like on a push bike, alot of your weight is on your front wheel,so you tend to ride the front more so than the rear wheel....also get used to using your front brake,its your friend & will stop you far far faster than your rear one.
Find a large empty carpark somewhere & practice.:yes:

[CHOPPA]

Whatever works!

[ital916]

I never really find the need to kiss the mirrors on the road, except when I feel like imitating a racer haha.

Seating position is a personal thing. I find I have an awkward position with my bum off to the left, makes me look like i'm always shifting my weight to the left haha.

[blossomsowner]

His profile states that he has a green bike. To improve his riding I think he really needs to change to a blue bike first. Then progress back up to green and finally, when fully experienced ...a red bike. It's all about the colour. Red is always faster.
This thread is going to become amusing.




i agree completely..........my current bike is a fantastic red colour...........tried others previously but red is best.

[dipshit]

weight the out side peg.

There is more to it than that. Weight the inside peg to help make the bike turn when going into a corner.... shift your weight to the outside peg when accelerating out of the corner to help increase traction.

Sometimes you even want to weight both pegs evenly, like when going over some bumps. Weighting both pegs will lower the bike's centre of gravity and keep it more composed over bumps.

[slimjim]

first post so be gentle.

hi iv been riding for a few years now and i just want to know how to ride. sounds crazy but we all think were doing it right till told otherwise

so how do u sit when u start off. corners (fast) ie lean off kiss the mirrors? wight on what peg?
braking position holding on with ur arms? knees? feet?. wheres ur knee pointing and what are u feeling throw the bars. what line do u take and why and can someone with experience answer like someone whos won races. basely how do u ride from start to finish


:gob: dude how old ...........

[xwhatsit]

Weighting both pegs will lower the bike's centre of gravity and keep it more composed over bumps.
Your advice is all good, and weighting both pegs may very well help over bumps (I certainly found it helped going up hills off road with road tyres), but, contrary to popular opinion, it doesn't lower the centre of gravity. It seems intuitive to think that by changing where the extra weight (i.e. you) joins to the frame you can change the centre of gravity, but you can't. It doesn't matter where to the frame the mass mounts, only that it is mounted and fixed.

Of course in extreme examples, like dirt bikers actually standing up on the pegs, you're raising the centre of gravity. I assume this helps for the same reason it's easier to balance a long broom with the handle on your palm, rather than the brush on your palm -- slower reaction, lots of time to correct the movements and keep it balanced.

[jrandom]

Fuck off, black's the only proper colour for a bike.

[Pwalo]

Just get yourself a few DVDs of the Irish Road Racing series. That'll show you how really good riders can go really fast on public roads.

However I wouldn't actually suggest emulating them, as they tend to die with horrible regularity.

If you can see if you can get hold of Lee Parkes book, I think it's Total Control, or some such. It's not too waffly for an American publication, and it really made a difference to my u turns on the SV!

Try one thing at a time, and see how things feel, and what works for you. Just don't take it too seriously.

[Jerry74]

Practice lots and you will find your best line and lean.

I dont hang off too much like GP riders but use a lot of counter steering and weight shifting.

Only have 1.5 cm chicken lines on the tyres so must be doing something right.

[nodrog]

Fuck off, black's the only proper colour for a bike.

thats the first intelligent post ive seen from you all day :yes:

jrandom for mentor!

i tend to go fast on the fast corners and slow on the slow corners, thank god ive never encounted a medium corner.

[jrandom]

thank god ive never encounted a medium corner.

If you can ride round those you get to appear on 'Sensing Murder'.

[nodrog]

If you can ride round those you get to appear on 'Sensing Murder'.

on what side? the sensing or the murdered?

[jrandom]

on what side? the sensing or the murdered?

"On the show tonight: Several fat middle-aged frauds were killed. Motorcyclists do burnouts on their graves and sniff the smoke to figure out who should be awarded the cash prize."

[nodrog]

"On the show tonight: Several fat middle-aged frauds were killed. Motorcyclists do burnouts on their graves and sniff the smoke to figure out who should be awarded the cash prize."

i prefer mythbusters

[jrandom]

i prefer mythbusters

kiwifruit reckons the redhead is hawt.

[nodrog]

kiwifruit reckons the redhead is hawt.

well he would

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=599&pictureid=7483

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=599&pictureid=7482

[jrandom]

well he would

Barely recognisable pre-operation, inne.

[nodrog]

Barely recognisable pre-operation, inne.

quite cute with his ginger stubble too, sort of like a badass teenage beeker.

[jrandom]

quite cute with his ginger stubble too, sort of like a badass teenage beeker.

Meep meep!

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[Kendog]

have you high/low sided yet

No, why would I have?

[dipshit]

Your advice is all good, and weighting both pegs may very well help over bumps (I certainly found it helped going up hills off road with road tyres), but, contrary to popular opinion, it doesn't lower the centre of gravity.

I see. It certainly does the trick though. :2thumbsup

It's probably more like changing the leverage point relative to the C of G perhaps?

[svr]

Sorry to be serious...
Road bikes handle like shit and you will have less control if you dont hang off at least a bit. There are a bunch of reasons for this but here's one that hasn't been mentioned: We judge distances a lot more accurately with our heads upright (eyes level) which is a Very Important Thing when cornering. The only way to keep your head upright and weight to the inside is to hang off.

[xwhatsit]

It's probably more like changing the leverage point relative to the C of G perhaps?
That's probably it! I'm waiting for Mikkel and his band of physicist nutjobs to turn up and light the way.