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marty
31st August 2008, 20:00
I've noticed an upsurge in this behaviour in the past 6 months. Much of it from those who were weekend wallies, and have now moved onto their bikes more full time - probably to save gas.

Maybe if you took more time checking your mirrors, or just minding your own business, then you wouldn't be having these 'problems' that you seem to having

cases in point:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=80911
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=80899
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=80851

Katman
31st August 2008, 20:04
I've had motorcyclists come close to killing me that has had nothing to do with me not checking my mirrors.

Remember - bikers kill bikers.

marty
31st August 2008, 20:20
i've had plenty more dickheads in cars texting/eating/getting blowjobs try to kill me than bikes travelling faster/slower than me. some kids on here just need to HTFU. i know that bikers kill bikers, there's been a graphic demonstration of that amongst our own, and i don't intend discussing the whys and hows of that. we actually just need to accept that EVERYONE is out there trying to kill us, and make a decision: do we shutup and take responsibility for own own, and only our own actions, learn to live with the fact that others want to kill us, or just give up.

where do you sit, katman? your comments above seem to contradict your own signature

Katman
31st August 2008, 20:24
If someone else puts my safety in jeopardy, fuckin oath I'll speak out about it.

marty
31st August 2008, 20:26
so if someone flies past you, you didn't see them coming, and they scare you causing you to have a moment, it's their fault?

Katman
31st August 2008, 20:27
so if someone flies past you, you didn't see them coming, and they scare you causing you to have a moment, it's their fault?

I assume you're aware how fast someone travelling at speed can close on another vehicle.

(And I'm well aware of what you're trying to get me to say).

:msn-wink:

justsomeguy
31st August 2008, 20:29
THIS IS ME LAUGHING AT YOU WHINGING ABOUT THE OTHER WHINGING IDIOTS....THE IRONY....:lol:
http://op-for.com/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

Grub
31st August 2008, 20:30
so if someone flies past you, you didn't see them coming, and they scare you causing you to have a moment, it's their fault?

Yep, racing rules ... "Overtaking bike keeps clear"

raftn
31st August 2008, 20:32
Today i rode back from Taupo via the Roturua lakes, and Edgecumb and tauranga. As we were coming down hill into a 45 km righ hand bend , a guy on a R1 coming the other way was overtaking another bike, on the wrong side of the road, MY SIDE!, A head on collision was only just advoided. He was fair travelling and almost lost control of the bike..........I dont normally bitch about other riders, but i have two kids, and my mate behind me has 4, we were both nearly cleared out, and to say i was a bit pissed off would be a understatment................do i need to say any thing more, and if it is some one on here......I am still shaking from the whole incident.

R6_kid
31st August 2008, 20:33
If someone else puts my safety in jeopardy, fuckin oath I'll speak out about it.

If it's not directly to them then whats the point?

You think that perhaps if a person doing that kinda crap reads a post on here, that as they come up behind you, about do do their reckless maneuvre that for some reason they might stop and go 'oh, wait they might have a winge on an internet forum about this'... I think not.

Truth is people like that only care about themselves, they do what they do because they believe it is safe for them and that is all that matters to them. Only real thing you can do is stay out of their way, or shoot them.

R6_kid
31st August 2008, 20:34
Yep, racing rules ... "Overtaking bike keeps clear"

Tell Rossi that. :laugh:

R6_kid
31st August 2008, 20:35
Today i rode back from Taupo via the Roturua lakes, and Edgecumb and tauranga. As we were coming down hill into a 45 km righ hand bend , a guy on a R1 coming the other way was overtaking another bike, on the wrong side of the road, MY SIDE!, A head on collision was only just advoided. He was fair travelling and almost lost control of the bike..........I dont normally bitch about other riders, but i have two kids, and my mate behind me has 4, we were both nearly cleared out, and to say i was a bit pissed off would be a understatment................do i need to say any thing more, and if it is some one on here......I am still shaking from the whole incident.

Be thankful it wasn't a car/van/truck/bus.

justsomeguy
31st August 2008, 20:36
If it's not directly to them then whats the point?

You think that perhaps if a person doing that kinda crap reads a post on here, that as they come up behind you, about do do their reckless maneuvre that for some reason they might stop and go 'oh, wait they might have a winge on an internet forum about this'... I think not.

Truth is people like that only care about themselves, they do what they do because they believe it is safe for them and that is all that matters to them. Only real thing you can do is stay out of their way, or shoot them.

+1

I know that's the truth cos I used to be a person exactly like that...

MentalFacility
31st August 2008, 20:38
so if someone flies past you, you didn't see them coming, and they scare you causing you to have a moment, it's their fault?

Your talking about me here aren't you? Well the reason i have posted a new thread about it, is that people may read it, and next time they think about doing something stupid they just don't.

I gues its no use to you unless he actually hit me, and we both ended up in wheel chairs for the rest of our lives, and then take pictures just to prove the point to you.

I'm fucking well aware that i cant change the world, but if you want me to stop complaining about some stupid riders, then you better shoot me. Or get your self a better forum.

Katman
31st August 2008, 20:38
If it's not directly to them then whats the point?



As I've said in previous threads - it's about peer pressure.

It's largely how the attitude towards drink driving has been turned around.

raftn
31st August 2008, 20:39
Be thankful it wasn't a car/van/truck/bus.

I am just thankful I am fucking alive.

marty
31st August 2008, 20:40
Your talking about me here aren't you? Well the reason i have posted a new thread about it, is that people may read it, and next time they think about doing something stupid they just don't. .

you're just 1 of 3 that i found without too much trouble, but if it's important to you - yes - it's all about you.

MentalFacility
31st August 2008, 20:43
you're just 1 of 3 that i found without too much trouble, but if it's important to you - yes - it's all about you.

So what's your point here? Are you personally pissed of that we have 3 threads on the 1st page of the forum talking about how riders can be dickheads?

marty
31st August 2008, 20:45
i'm not pissed about anything. it was just an observation.

where's the chill pill smilie?

dipshit
31st August 2008, 20:53
So what's your point here? Are you personally pissed of that we have 3 threads on the 1st page of the forum talking about how riders can be dickheads?

Yeah, it totally fucks with his head... because cages are supposedly the cause of the majority of motorcycle accidents and our shit doesn't stink - in the bike propaganda world. :bs:

Ixion
31st August 2008, 21:09
Know what you mean.

lately seems every other pos is someone having a wee tanty about a biker committing some grave and unforgivable sin, like roasting babies, microwaving kittens, riding without pants, overtaking, riding on the footpath and such like.

I suspect that some of the unhappiness is riders who have much experience in cars but not much on bikes.

Things that an experienced rider on a fast bike can do seem quite alarming to someone who measures such things in car terms.

Overtaking on the outside in a corner for instance. Can't say it's something that happens that frquently but when it does it's not a big deal. Just hold your line and let the outside guy sort himself out. Front bike owns the road. Like as not he'll get past. If not, he'll brake and tuick in behind. And 20 cm is quite a lot of space , really .Indeed I must confess to having done it myself on very odd occasions - in expiation , it was on a 250 when you really want to maintain corner speed and it can be quite difficult following a slower rider.

Dangerous is one thing . "He scared me " is another. Which isn't to say that dangerous by bikers doesn't happen, and should be firmly reproved when it does.

And that's another reason for L plates. I would tear an experienced rider who did that to a L plater a new one. Once the L is off, well I guess you're expected to harden up a bit.

Pedrostt500
31st August 2008, 21:11
One of the things my dad taught me and I have repeated here in a few different threads, some times driving and riding defensivly you have to think for other road useres, its no good Being DEAD right, or worse a Vegtable but you were in the right.
One of the best things we can learn to be better drivers / riders is Hazzard identification, you need to figure out your own scale, mine is 1 to 20, at 20 there is little chance of harm to me, at about 5 to 1 on my scale this is where significant harm may come to me if I do not take evasive action imediatly, this is the my light is green but i can see there is a Muppet that is going to run the red light. or the clown that is passing the B train with no passing room, in both cases I can stan my ground and get caught up and hurt in their accident, or I can do my best to aviod the situation.

MentalFacility
31st August 2008, 21:13
Know what you mean.

lately seems every other pos is someone having a wee tanty about a biker committing some grave and unforgivable sin, like roasting babies, microwaving kittens, riding without pants, overtaking, riding on the footpath and such like.

I suspect that some of the unhappiness is riders who have much experience in cars but not much on bikes.

Things that an experienced rider on a fast bike can do seem quite alarming to someone who measures such things in car terms.

Overtaking on the outside in a corner for instance. Can't say it's something that happens that frquently but when it does it's not a big deal. Just hold your line and let the outside guy sort himself out. Front bike owns the road. Like as not he'll get past. If not, he'll brake and tuick in behind. And 20 cm is quite a lot of space , really .Indeed I must confess to having done it myself on very odd occasions - in expiation , it was on a 250 when you really want to maintain corner speed and it can be quite difficult following a slower rider.

Dangerous is one thing . "He scared me " is another. Which isn't to say that dangerous by bikers doesn't happen, and should be firmly reproved when it does.

And that's another reason for L plates. I would tear an experienced rider who did that to a L plater a new one. Once the L is off, well I guess you're expected to harden up a bit.

Ok ill illustrate the setuation better. I was going 150 + in that corner, and I didn't see the other bike untill the last moment.

Grahameeboy
31st August 2008, 21:14
If someone else puts my safety in jeopardy, fuckin oath I'll speak out about it.

Otherwise you will just be your quite shy self then??:yes:

Subike
31st August 2008, 21:26
I like reading about these nutters on bikes that piss people off.
For the humor of the posts sometimes.
For the reminder that I need to watch out for bikes as well as cages when out riding.
OK so the rider/driver in question may never read the thread, but we do, and it might make us safer on the road on our bikes as well as in our cages.

marty
31st August 2008, 21:27
Ok ill illustrate the setuation better. I was going 150 + in that corner, and I didn't see the other bike untill the last moment.

so really, you're just fucked off that you got owned?

dipshit
31st August 2008, 21:31
Overtaking on the outside in a corner for instance. Can't say it's something that happens that frquently but when it does it's not a big deal. Just hold your line and let the outside guy sort himself out. Front bike owns the road. L

Two things can go wrong...

1; Bike mirrors give poor visibility for something up close, and the speed some riders can close up on means the slower bike probably doesn't know he/she is about to be passed...

2; The road is different to a race track. Road riders do not necessarily hold "a line" because they are travelling at a much slower pace and may actually change lines at any moment, like moving to another part within their lane for a better entry into a corner. This is a big difference to a racer on a track who will be pretty much holding a predictable line.

This means to be safe it pays to overtake completely in the other lane - not try to push through beside them in their lane that they have every right to use every part of as they see fit to get through a corner and avoid any bumps etc. Remember they probably haven't seen you coming anyhow.

Of course overtaking in the other lane only limits overtaking in corners where there is adequate visibility ahead. (and allow for the possibility of a fast travelling bike coming the other way) Otherwise wait for a straight.

MentalFacility
31st August 2008, 21:35
so really, you're just fucked off that you got owned?

You really got pissed at me didn't ay?

No, I was going to give him way at a straight anyway, I wasn't racing him at all, I didn't see him till the last moment. I was just having a bitta fun.

By the way, a fair quastion to you, do you happen to own a red\dark grey Honda CBR 600 RR 07-08 model?

justsomeguy
31st August 2008, 21:35
Ok ill illustrate the setuation better. I was going 150 + in that corner, and I didn't see the other bike untill the last moment.

Really????????

*cough*BULLSHIT*cough

:jerry::jerry::jerry:

MentalFacility
31st August 2008, 21:36
Two things can go wrong...

1; Bike mirrors give poor visibility for something up close, and the speed some riders can close up on means the slower bike probably doesn't know he/she is about to be passed...

2; The road is different to a race track. Road riders do not necessarily hold "a line" because they are travelling at a much slower pace and may actually change lines at any moment, like moving to another part within their lane for a better entry into a corner. This is a big difference to a racer on a track who will be pretty much holding a predictable line.

This means to be safe it pays to overtake completely in the other lane - not try to push through beside them in their lane that they have every right to use every part of as they see fit to get through a corner and avoid any bumps etc. Remember they probably haven't seen you coming anyhow.

Of course overtaking in the other lane only limits overtaking in corners where there is adequate visibility ahead. (and allow for the possibility of a fast travelling bike coming the other way) Otherwise wait for a straight.

Exactly what im thinking.
Cheez, I can't believe how much resistance i get when i say someone did something really stupid.

Mikkel
31st August 2008, 21:38
I guess people will always be able to find something to complain about...

MentalFacility
31st August 2008, 21:40
Really????????

*cough*BULLSHIT*cough

:jerry::jerry::jerry:

Really, hit something like 147 before i let off the throttle as I saw that guy next to me.

justsomeguy
31st August 2008, 21:40
Two things can go wrong...

1; Bike mirrors give poor visibility for something up close, and the speed some riders can close up on means the slower bike probably doesn't know he/she is about to be passed...

2; The road is different to a race track. Road riders do not necessarily hold "a line" because they are travelling at a much slower pace and may actually change lines at any moment, like moving to another part within their lane for a better entry into a corner. This is a big difference to a racer on a track who will be pretty much holding a predictable line.

This means to be safe it pays to overtake completely in the other lane - not try to push through beside them in their lane that they have every right to use every part of as they see fit to get through a corner and avoid any bumps etc. Remember they probably haven't seen you coming anyhow.

Of course overtaking in the other lane only limits overtaking in corners where there is adequate visibility ahead. (and allow for the possibility of a fast travelling bike coming the other way) Otherwise wait for a straight.

Right.... that's the AS SEEN ON TV version.

In the real world when people on fast bikes slow down people on slower bikes corners are the only place to overtake.

Not the smartest thing to do, but adrenalin, testosterone and the thrill of overtaking around a corner overcome good sense a little too often.

justsomeguy
31st August 2008, 21:44
Really, hit something like 147 before i let off the throttle as I saw that guy next to me.


Well you've got the bike to do it on so I'll give you the benefit of doubt.

If that guy could get his knee down on those roads - at those speeds - as there are few places to do those speeds, miranda straights, the parts near the end toward Howick/Pakuranga, etc you're talking about a VERY fast rider.

MentalFacility
31st August 2008, 21:46
Well you've got the bike to do it on so I'll give you the benefit of doubt.

If that guy could get his knee down on those roads - at those speeds - as there are few places to do those speeds, miranda straights, the parts near the end toward Howick/Pakuranga, etc you're talking about a VERY fast rider.

This corner XXX WRONG LINK

EDIT: OPPS WRONG LINK.

THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Clevedon,+new+zealand&sll=51.436461,-2.850437&sspn=0.056074,0.15295&ie=UTF8&ll=-36.982286,175.053679&spn=0.002245,0.00478&t=h&z=18&iwloc=addr

Swoop
31st August 2008, 21:48
Yep, racing rules ... "Overtaking bike keeps clear"
Exactly the same as the "international rules of the sea"... Overtaking ship makes sure to stay clear.

gunrunner
31st August 2008, 21:48
We all just need to ride to our own capabilities , riders need to think getting there 10 minutes later is better than not getting there at all . Not that i am 1 to bitch but i do see some crazy shit out there:Oi:

marty
31st August 2008, 21:48
You really got pissed at me didn't ay?

No, I was going to give him way at a straight anyway, I wasn't racing him at all, I didn't see him till the last moment. I was just having a bitta fun.

By the way, a fair quastion to you, do you happen to own a red\dark grey Honda CBR 600 RR 07-08 model?

1. no.
2. so you did see him. or not til the last moment. but you were having fun. (with him?) then you got owned. fantastic.
3. a bike that big would scare me. i'm happy just pootling around on my scooter, so i'll have to take your word for how much fun 147km/h is!

dipshit
31st August 2008, 21:51
In the real world when people on fast bikes slow down people on slower bikes corners are the only place to overtake.

Not the smartest thing to do, but adrenalin, testosterone and the thrill of overtaking around a corner overcome good sense a little too often.


That's the tragedy isn't it. You (not you, the hypothetical you) can't play the hero in your dick measuring contest and show how skilled you are... or how the k5 is better than the k8... :crybaby:

Fuck, what's the point of riding then. :confused:

justsomeguy
31st August 2008, 21:52
This corner XXX WRONG LINK

EDIT: OPPS WRONG LINK.

THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Clevedon,+new+zealand&sll=51.436461,-2.850437&sspn=0.056074,0.15295&ie=UTF8&ll=-36.982286,175.053679&spn=0.002245,0.00478&t=h&z=18&iwloc=addr


Nice. Lovely roads. There's good visibility there. The bugger must have been doing 200+ to close on to your like that.

I had a dream once of riding from Kopu Mobil, via those roads to Botany Downs in just under an hour at 2am one Fri night/Sat morn:msn-wink:.

Glad you're in one piece mate, hope you find your cowl too.

dipshit
31st August 2008, 21:54
Exactly what im thinking.
Cheez, I can't believe how much resistance i get when i say someone did something really stupid.

Us motorcyclist's shit doesn't stink. Only fucking cage drivers are stupid and dangerous. :whistle:

MentalFacility
31st August 2008, 21:56
1. no.
2. so you did see him. or not til the last moment. but you were having fun. (with him?) then you got owned. fantastic.
3. a bike that big would scare me. i'm happy just pootling around on my scooter, so i'll have to take your word for how much fun 147km/h is!

Lol you read only what you want to read. As I said i didn't see him till the LAST MOMENT as i was leaning in to the corner. A few seconds before that something blinked in my rear mirrors so i though it was some other bike.
Think what you want, but if you cant read properly im no primary school teacher. The less we know the more we suspect?

MentalFacility
31st August 2008, 21:58
Nice. Lovely roads. There's good visibility there. The bugger must have been doing 200+ to close on to your like that.

I had a dream once of riding from Kopu Mobil, via those roads to Botany Downs in just under an hour at 2am one Fri night/Sat morn:msn-wink:.

Glad you're in one piece mate, hope you find your cowl too.

Thanks man, Hope to see you on the road some day. Just dont pass me in the corners like that, next time someone does it I might shit myself=))

dipshit
31st August 2008, 21:59
I had a dream once of riding from Kopu Mobil, via those roads to Botany Downs in just under an hour at 2am one Fri night/Sat morn:msn-wink:.

Have you actually got a bike at the moment, or are you still saving up after totalling your GSXR without any insurance?

justsomeguy
31st August 2008, 22:12
Have you actually got a bike at the moment, or are you still saving up after totalling your GSXR without any insurance?

No bike at the moment and no plans to buy one soon either. I'm living my life through your (KB'er) posts.:crybaby:

The economy is seriously f'ked here in Aussie at the moment and there are too many redundancies being handed out everywhere. Or else I'd get a little 600 and would have started biking by now.

That dream was a long time ago back in 2007 on my 636..

Ixion
1st September 2008, 00:33
Two things can go wrong...

..

To be sure. many many things can go wrong. Like any other manoeuvre, allowance must be made for them.

Nonetheless (an I am NZ motorcycling's Nana of Nanas) I do overtake quite often in corners. Usually cages, but there have been odd occasions when it's been a bike.

The problem with "wait until the straights" is that there is a certain breed of driver (and, more rarely, rider), who will crawl tediously through the windy bits, but as soon as a straight is reached , his foot goes down (or gauntlet goes round) and he takes off as fast as he can. And often they are driving quite powerful cars (or riding quite powerful bikes) , so that overtaking them on the straights is a difficult (and most illegal) thing. Especially if one happens to be riding a lowly powered 250, or chookchaser. Or a huge tourer. And so it goes, creep frustratingly through the corners, watch him blast off into the distance (gee he can go fast in a straight line), and catch up at the next windy bit for more frustrating tail end charley duty.

portokiwi
1st September 2008, 07:19
I've noticed an upsurge in this behaviour in the past 6 months. Much of it from those who were weekend wallies, and have now moved onto their bikes more full time - probably to save gas.

Maybe if you took more time checking your mirrors, or just minding your own business, then you wouldn't be having these 'problems' that you seem to having

cases in point:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=80911
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=80899
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=80851
Marty you sound like you might be one of the riders that do these stupid stunts. Is this right. If not why are you trying to cover up for prats that give riders a bad name.
On kiwi Biker they are trying to promote safe riding. Riding a bike on a public road doing wheelies with no helmet is a just case.
Is it safe NO.
is it Legal NO.
is it stupid YES.
If you just want to come on here and bitch about riders that care about safety and trying to get fellow bikers to wear the basics in safety.
Fine its your right as a prat and a dick to do so. If you care about safety. Why did you start this thread? to wind people up?
Think about it before you write.
I care for my life, I care about my family. I try not to write to much about the cagers as they have all round protection.
We dont.... All we have is the skidlid on our head and the clothes we wear.

marty
1st September 2008, 07:39
actually porto, i tend to ride alone, and give others slower than me (very few are anyway) a wide berth, as i would expect others to do to me. i have had to scrape more than my share of bad luck off the roads of NZ, and i don't really want to do it any more if i can avoid it.

farkin hell there's some tender egos on here.

James Deuce
1st September 2008, 07:44
Yep, racing rules ... "Overtaking bike keeps clear"

Racing rules? What does that have to do with road riding?

I do my best to stay out of the way of people travelling quicker than me, car or bike. I try to extend my situational awareness rearward as much as forwards. It's saved my bacon a couple of times when braking for an unexpected hazard.

You're sharing the road with other people and if you are holding them up you are contributing to their frustration, possibly adding to the likelihood of them doing something silly to get past you. If you don't know what's behind you, you shouldn't be on the road. Sharing. SOmething motorcyclists don't do as well as they'd like to think they do. Really good at toy runs. Really bad at yeilding a metre of space to let someone past.

On the track anything goes. Elbows, feet, yanking someone's kill lanyard - all "fair" play. Until you get back to the pits. Then it's all on.

portokiwi
1st September 2008, 08:02
:hug: sorry about that marty. Its just who I am and how I feel.
I love riding but it does get to me seeing plain stupid acts with compleat lack for safety.
Dont get me wrong I love watching guys & girls doing wheelies. (wish I could still do them) :lol:

idb
1st September 2008, 08:17
.....we actually just need to accept that EVERYONE is out there trying to kill us, .....learn to live with the fact that others want to kill us, .....

What shit!

idb
1st September 2008, 08:27
Know what you mean.

lately seems every other pos is someone having a wee tanty about a biker committing some grave and unforgivable sin, like roasting babies, microwaving kittens, riding without pants, overtaking, riding on the footpath and such like....
Don't forget not waving!!!!

sinfull
1st September 2008, 08:31
wheres my thread?


p.s. vote me for Mentor

More to the point, where were you friday ?

Swoop
1st September 2008, 08:37
farkin hell there's some tender egos on here.
Yes... Fun to provoke, aren't they.:shifty:

sinfull
1st September 2008, 08:38
dont you fuckin start :mad::girlfight:

Welllllllllllll , there was an extreem shortage of british bikes !
And hell i only got overtaken a couple of times ! Not mentioning the fact i was in group 3 at all !

awayatc
1st September 2008, 08:40
Suppose the results of Nana state upbringing starting to become apparent......

I don't want to comply with all the pencil pushing bullshit rules and regulations, and the twats that try to enforce them.

Free spirit/adventure/self reliance and all.....
That's why I work at sea...
That's why I ride a bike....

Have managed to survive over half a century by using my brain, not by following increasingly restrictive legislations..

Darwin will sort it out...

terbang
1st September 2008, 08:48
Marty, do you mean the kind that rings *555 to complain that they just got overtaken dangerously by a blonde driving a beemer..?

sinfull
1st September 2008, 08:52
i had to work man, ive run out of sick days.

lol, going out with the n00bs so you can win?:scooter: i like your style :rockon: Bloody curse that working thing aint it ? Yuck, glad i'm just a permanent sicko !

Haha it wasn't my choice there (well i guess i could have moved up) i was a last minute entry and let Peter stick me wherever ! Bloody good in that group though, SFA bikes in there so had a clear track most of the time so could focus on my stylez rather than racing !
Peeling the edges of me tires now so there's only one thing for it !

Quasievil
1st September 2008, 09:23
In My book if I see someone behaving stupid I will follow them (if possible)and tell them, I wouldnt post about it..........whats the point, is it just venting or rep chasing?

In my view also if you remotely treat the road as your personal weekend race track your an egg and will probably kill yourself eventually or someone else. Roads are public, racetracks are for racing, pure and simple end of story, to think otherwise youre either kidding yourself or proping up your brainless view that you can do what you like when you like just because youre a biker WTF, youre just another road user with the same rights as the guy in a clapped out cage, get over it

marty
1st September 2008, 09:41
What shit!

well they're not really trying, but they are doing a pretty good impression of it.

Big Dave
1st September 2008, 09:56
This site is badly named.

It should be called 'Kiwi motorcyclist'.

Most of the bikers I know would be pissing themselves by now.

Katman
1st September 2008, 10:04
This site is badly named.

It should be called 'Kiwi motorcyclist'.

Most of the bikers I know would be pissing themselves by now.

That's right Dave.

Motorcycling in New Zealand is fast becoming a whole lot more mainstream.

It seems to be pissing a number of the hardcore bikers off.

idb
1st September 2008, 10:08
I tuck to the left...but I'm right-handed.
Strange but true.


Now that's hardcore!!!!

dipshit
1st September 2008, 20:28
And so it goes, creep frustratingly through the corners, watch him blast off into the distance (gee he can go fast in a straight line), and catch up at the next windy bit for more frustrating tail end charley duty.

Hard for a ZX10 rider to justify passing HD's and 250 riders that way though.

Katman
1st September 2008, 21:42
I think the main reason a number of motorcyclists like to ride like fuckwits is an attempt to reinforce the perceived 'Rebel without a Clue'-ness that attracted them to motorcycling in the first place.

98tls
1st September 2008, 21:48
This site is badly named.

It should be called 'Kiwi motorcyclist'.

Most of the bikers I know would be pissing themselves by now. About time.

marty
1st September 2008, 22:09
yeah - is that cause all the REAL old bikers are incontinent?

Big Dave
1st September 2008, 23:03
yeah - is that cause all the REAL old bikers are incontinent?

.....Depends.

jrandom
1st September 2008, 23:05
.....Depends.

If I was laughing any harder, I'd probably wet myself.

jrandom
1st September 2008, 23:14
This site is badly named.

It should be called 'Kiwi motorcyclist'.

Most of the bikers I know would be pissing themselves by now.

I'm having trouble figuring out whether that means that you think we have insufficient pretentious twats, or too many of them.

:blink:

Big Dave
1st September 2008, 23:19
I'm having trouble figuring out whether that means that you think we have insufficient pretentious twats, or too many of them.

:blink:

The dudes that I knew as bikers back home had different 'tudes than those expressed herein.

jrandom
1st September 2008, 23:21
The dudes that I knew as bikers back home...

Settle down around the campfire, folks.

Why don't you tell us all about the dudes you knew as bikers back home, Big Dave?

:corn:

Big Dave
1st September 2008, 23:23
Settle down around the campfire, folks.

Why don't you tell us all about the dudes you knew as bikers back home, Big Dave?

:corn:

Drink Jack Daniels, do burnouts, watch dirty girls, fall down drunk.

These guys.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1711209&postcount=1

jrandom
1st September 2008, 23:27
Drink Jack Daniels, do burnouts, watch dirty girls, fall down drunk.

Sounds like every KB party ever.

Except KB girls are spotless, of course. White as lilies and twice as pleasantly scented.

(I should know; I've sniffed a few.)

Big Dave
2nd September 2008, 02:00
I may have to retract if the Redneck quotient keeps lobstering.

marty
2nd September 2008, 08:02
Drink Jack Daniels, do burnouts, watch dirty girls, fall down drunk.

These guys.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1711209&postcount=1

some of us still do. we just don't 1, come on here and tell everyone and 2, complain if we get cut off, throw up, get a ticket, get arrested, or otherwise smacked around for being a dickhead....

Big Dave
2nd September 2008, 10:30
some of us still do. we just don't 1, come on here and tell everyone and 2, complain if we get cut off, throw up, get a ticket, get arrested, or otherwise smacked around for being a dickhead....

respec
__________

Badjelly
2nd September 2008, 12:49
This site is badly named.

It should be called 'Kiwi motorcyclist'.

Most of the bikers I know would be pissing themselves by now.

Time to reserve a few domain names:

www.kiwirealbiker.co.nz
www.kiwirealhardcorebikersonlynonewbsandlattesippi ngposermotorcyclistshere.co.nz
www.youcantjoinmyclub.co.nz
www.thismeansyoubadjellyyoumuppet.co.nz
www.andkatman.co.nz

Big Dave
2nd September 2008, 13:48
www.bigdave.co.nz

Blue Velvet
2nd September 2008, 14:00
is there a depression thread?

You've found it. (http://tinyurl.com/5mdfat)

carver
21st September 2008, 18:35
who gives a fuck....
ride how you want