Moto Guzzi

[Paul in NZ]

Now i know a few of you are groaning and clutching you testicles and the mere mention of the name and are thinking (well ok maybe not yer actual thinking but somethings going on up there) that Paul needs to get back on his meds... But I thought you would get a kick out of some of the nicest custom Guzzis you will ever see!

http://guzzi.daytona-it.com/

For those of you too lazy to follow the link I post a couple of pictures.

Paul N

[Coyote]

Very Nice looking bike :yes:

[Sniper]

Oooooh, aaaah, I like.

[vifferman]

Oar some.
I'd row that down the river any time.


Needs a rear hugger though.
Or dry weather.

[Skunk]

Bugger, this is hard to say... Nice Guzzi. There, I said it. :wavey:

[Devil]

I havent seen too many Guzzis in the flesh but I love the look of a doomy engine with a seat/tank/controls basically strapped on top :D

[Hitcher]

Funny thing. Mrs H has taken an interest in the new Guzzi Nevada. Maybe it's to do with her concussion...

[Holy Roller]

Funny thing. Mrs H has taken an interest in the new Guzzi Nevada. Maybe it's to do with her concussion...
Great minds think alike :niceone:
may be just that I need to get some help :whistle:

[bear]

Nice, good photos

[Paul in NZ]

By all accounts it's actually a great bike! I believe the running gear is the same as the Breva 750 which is winning a lot of friends in the USA with it's easy going manners and basic reliability.

The old small blocks were not always very nice bikes and are a bit limited in power due to a bunch of things including the Heron heads but the early Nevada was IMHO not a very nice looking bike. The new one is!

Small block Guzzis are one fun bike in the twisties though! A friends Monza (500cc) is an utter hoot! It's just tiny and not real powerful yet roars like a randy Rhino with it's wedding tackle caught in the Rhino harems barbed wire boundary fence... handles like a 250....

Don't overlook the Breva though. Take one for a test ride.

In all honesty, Guzzi folk are worth the pain of owning an old LM2.

Paul N

ps - if you want the honest answers on small block ownership poke around here

http://wildguzzi.com/discussion/

There was a seperate small block forum but the site got hacked and all was lost. If there is a fault with the bikes, one of the yanks will know!

[Skyryder]

Funny thing. Mrs H has taken an interest in the new Guzzi Nevada. Maybe it's to do with her concussion...

No. She's seen the light.

Skyryder (rides a Drake)

[mangell6]

No, shes totally delusional. Bed rest with proper bike magazine

[sels1]

Funny thing. Mrs H has taken an interest in the new Guzzi Nevada. Maybe it's to do with her concussion...

They must have put her on the same medication as Paul - change it quick!

Nice pics though, Paul.

[Riff Raff]

Small block Guzzis are one fun bike in the twisties though! A friends Monza (500cc) is an utter hoot! It's just tiny and not real powerful yet roars like a randy Rhino with it's wedding tackle caught in the Rhino harems barbed wire boundary fence... handles like a 250....

:killingme :killingme:
Well that's gone into the Classic Quotes....

[dangerous]

very nice Paul, heres another based on the Daytona RS.
http://image09.webshots.com/9/5/94/35/101559435wopATM_ph.jpg

[Motu]

I dunno about these modern inline V twin Guzzi's - a real Guzzi is a single,their real fame was built on them.I rode this exact model Falcone often,the very last made...red frame white tank.

PS....I know where there is a 1974 Stornello 160,12,000 original km,one owner...has been neglected for many years....I can put a word in the owners ear....

http://www.mgcn.nl/dameijer/images/stories/500falcone_n_72.jpg

[dangerous]

Paul, prehaps a little info for the punters about Guzzi... correct me if I get it all ballsed up.

Italy's largest motorcycle for much of its long history, Guzzi dates back to the closing years of the first World war when three air corps friends, Carlo Guzzi, giorgio Parodi and Giovanni Ravelli, planned a bike firm.
After Ravelli was killed in a flying crash, the other two adopted the air corps eagle symbol in his honour. In 1920 Carlo Guzzi designed the firms first bike a 500cc four stroke with a single horizontal cyl.

The first Guzzi actually came out in 1919 but it was knowen as the Guzzi Parodi but Parodi dident want his name on the bike as he belived it was all Guzzi's doing Parodi was an engineer and built the bikes as Guzzi asked.

Moto Guzzi was always ahead of its time being the first firm to re use the oil that spilled out of the head gear and redirected it to the drive chain..... kinda like a Scott oiler.
Guzzi built the V8 in 54 it was a water cooled 500cc quad cam four valve per cyl 90 degree the v8 reved to 12,000rpm and produced 72bhp and was timed at a phenomenal 178mph thats 286kph

Guzzi also produced a super charged singles, v2's both transverse and like the Duc's, a super charged triple and inline four's

For those that are interested heres a few pics I have on my webshots web site and a link to a Guzzi data base.

http://community.webshots.com/album/101362659NKPKXN/0

http://www.mgcn.nl/dameijer/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=58

[pete376403]

Err, don't think it was 4 valve /cylinder. But a nice motor for all that

[Riff Raff]

Paul, prehaps a little info for the punters about Guzzi....
You're not obsessed with Guzzi's at all, are you mate?
Nice bikes, but I still want my Ducati!

[dangerous]

Err, don't think it was 4 valve /cylinder. But a nice motor for all that
emmm... I am sure that it is 4valves per cyl (would be hard for a 2v to rev out at 12,000rpm) I have posted on a Oz Guzzi forum the question so I may stand corected shortley. MG were using 4valves very early on its funny how they started of with 4v dohc and a few other trick bits but the MG today is a 2v push rod rocker engine.

http://www.ozebook.com/mcnews/mgV8/MotoGuzziV8.htm

[dangerous]

You're not obsessed with Guzzi's at all, are you mate?
Nice bikes, but I still want my Ducati!
na I'm not, forget bout that darft Duc 620 this is what ya want.
http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/bikes/breva/index.html

http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/bikes/breva/breva_prfl.jpg

http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/bikes/breva/photos/breva_lg02.jpg

[Paul in NZ]

I dunno about these modern inline V twin Guzzi's - a real Guzzi is a single,their real fame was built on them.I rode this exact model Falcone often,the very last made...red frame white tank.

PS....I know where there is a 1974 Stornello 160,12,000 original km,one owner...has been neglected for many years....I can put a word in the owners ear....

http://www.mgcn.nl/dameijer/images/stories/500falcone_n_72.jpg

If the price was right.. Of course.

Bugger of a thing to get parts for though!

[Paul in NZ]

You're not obsessed with Guzzi's at all, are you mate?
Nice bikes, but I still want my Ducati!

Not really. I'm far more obsessed with poxy old british bikes...

What I like about Guzzi is their history and engineering. They have tried and raced just about everything and usually 10 years before it became fasionable. They were racing OHC V twins before messter Ducati was even born! Sadly, Moto Guzzi has been raped by a succession of profit taking owners and yet still they stagger on due to the rightness of the original '60's design.

While the old ones are basically reliable, they need constant tinkering and thats part of the fun! (to me) They are addictive though! And at sane speeds. Stuffing the old girl into a corner and chopping the C/R box through the gears just to hear her bellow above the whine of the straight cut gears would put a horn on a dead jellyfish!

But utterly the best thing about them are the owners. A better bunch of lost souls you will never meet!

Paul N

[James Deuce]

But utterly the best thing about them are the owners. A better bunch of lost souls you will never meet!

Paul N

Modest to a fault too.

[Riff Raff]

But utterly the best thing about them are the owners. A better bunch of lost souls you will never meet!Paul N
cough, splutter :killingme :killingme :killingme

[dangerous]

While the old ones are basically reliable, they need constant tinkering and thats part of the fun! (to me) They are addictive though! And at sane speeds. Stuffing the old girl into a corner and chopping the C/R box through the gears just to hear her bellow above the whine of the straight cut gears would put a horn on a dead jellyfish!

But utterly the best thing about them are the owners. A better bunch of lost souls you will never meet!

Paul N
very well put Paul, I have never meet such a helpfull bunch :apint:

[dangerous]

Err, don't think it was 4 valve /cylinder. But a nice motor for all that

emmm... I am sure that it is 4valves per cyl (would be hard for a 2v to rev out at 12,000rpm) I have posted on a Oz Guzzi forum the question so I may stand corected shortley. MG were using 4valves very early on its funny how they started of with 4v dohc and a few other trick bits but the MG today is a 2v push rod rocker engine.

:doh: damn Pete376403..... Pete the Guzzi man in Oz just put me right..... tiz a 2valver the V8 :ride:

[Paul in NZ]

:doh: damn Pete..... Pete the Guzzi man in Oz just put me right..... tiz a 2valver the V8 :ride:

You mean Pete Roper? Pete and Jude have stayed with us a couple of times! They are bloody good fun!

Heres my Mk2 with an actual V8

Paul N

[dangerous]

You mean Pete Roper? Pete and Jude have stayed with us a couple of times! They are bloody good fun!

Heres my Mk2 with an actual V8

Paul N
yip that be the Pete, bugger all that man dosent know bout Guzzi aye.
You like that pic dont ya Paul...... dont blame ya awesome shot heres a few of the same bike after yours was towed away for obstuction ;)

http://image09.webshots.com/9/5/80/57/101558057qGRbRc_ph.jpg

http://image09.webshots.com/9/5/82/2/101558202skYSRQ_ph.jpg

http://image24.webshots.com/24/5/83/39/101558339vtEhRF_ph.jpg

http://image24.webshots.com/25/5/84/79/101558479RdAzLy_ph.jpg

[inlinefour]

Now i know a few of you are groaning and clutching you testicles and the mere mention of the name and are thinking (well ok maybe not yer actual thinking but somethings going on up there) that Paul needs to get back on his meds... But I thought you would get a kick out of some of the nicest custom Guzzis you will ever see!

http://guzzi.daytona-it.com/

For those of you too lazy to follow the link I post a couple of pictures.

Paul N

Here is a Guzzi that I actually think looks pretty good. Cheers Paul. :spudwave:

[Motu]

I'm suprised to see I'm not in any of the photos of the V8,I was hanging around it like a bad smell.

[warren35]

Guzzis arrrrrrrrrr love em to bits.Had an 1100 sport then got the 1000 daytona for the extra power.Ahard lesson learned was that never ever try to roll start one as i snapped the shaft.Think ill stick with the aprilia now though.Yeeeeee haaaaaa

[dangerous]

Guzzis arrrrrrrrrr love em to bits.Had an 1100 sport then got the 1000 daytona for the extra power.Ahard lesson learned was that never ever try to roll start one as i snapped the shaft.Think ill stick with the aprilia now though.Yeeeeee haaaaaa
You mean like a push start?? I did that 'once' over and over again..... frigen electrics and in the middle of know were.... then what ya know a 5yr old woundered along asked if he could push the start button, i figgered well it ait going to start anyway....... I dont know who shit there pants more me or him cos the bitch started...... never ever figgered that one out................. shit were was I . ohh yeah hell I even pulled a few whelie's (with great difficulties) and never had any probs with the shaft and it was up to 80,000kms.

Ummm.... regarding the Daytona for more power over the sport......... 2 0r 5hp depending on which model fuk all there what did you recken?
I have ridden carb & inj 1100 and the daytona single seat & RS..... early Daytona's were...... well...... no offence ment but not a patch on either 1100, but the RS with 10hp more and a wicked power band....... damn I want one

[NordieBoy]

Real BOTT racing... :rockon:

http://motorsport.nelson.geek.nz/road/NelsonPortRaces-2005-01-02/Racing/20050102-125919.jpg

[Kickaha]

That's Darryl Cotton on 117 BMW R100RS he rides a bucket as well and just about ran me over when I highsided, and the Guzzi rider is a regular at Ruapuna BEARs days,he rode the bike up raced it and rode home.

[ResidentAngel]

Guzzis arrrrrrrrrr love em to bits.Had an 1100 sport then got the 1000 daytona for the extra power.Ahard lesson learned was that never ever try to roll start one as i snapped the shaft.Think ill stick with the aprilia now though.Yeeeeee haaaaaa


ok ... I think I am looking for another bike .... been thinkng about a VMax to go with my VF, , but seems hard to get a new one - wondering about a Guzzi (had an 850 Le Mans a long time ago, and loved it!), but the hp rating isnt that high on the Guzzi ... and so I am wondering whether for the slow type riding I do, whether it will ever matter?

so ... has anyone ridden the 102 bhp version of the 1100 ? ... (and yes, I've been looking at the Aprilla as well, and wondering whether 120 hp is enough ?)

It would be nice if someone made a list of the power and torque ratings of the larger bikes .... plus weight .

[dangerous]

so ... has anyone ridden the 102 bhp version of the 1100 ?
No such thing as a 102hp 1100............ unless you do some work to a 1100i, I think that you mean the 1000 Daytona RS...... which puts out 102hp, which I have ridden.
1st up stock 1100 90hp, heaps a grunt there mostle down low compared to the 1000RS its a more usable bike.
The 1000RS is a lot smother, dead under 4000rpm unlike the 1100sport but has a really fun power band but balls out isent what ya really need all the time.

The differance between these bikes is push rod/cam belt, 2 valve/4 valve, 1100cc/1000cc, over head rocker/overhead cam, 90hp/102hp, 230k/240k, semi floating/full floating dics

[ResidentAngel]

1st up stock 1100 90hp, heaps a grunt there mostle down low compared to the 1000RS its a more usable bike.

The differance between these bikes is push rod/cam belt, 2 valve/4 valve, 1100cc/1000cc, over head rocker/overhead cam, 90hp/102hp, 230k/240k, semi floating/full floating dics

OK ..I've found a 125 CV, 1420cc kit for a guzzi ....

[pete376403]

emmm... I am sure that it is 4valves per cyl (would be hard for a 2v to rev out at 12,000rpm)

Think of 500cc spread among 8 cylinders - 44mm bore and even smaller 42mm stroke - that where the revs came from. Also getting 4 valves and a spark plug into a 44mm combustion chamber would call for the sort of casting wizardry that Honda perfected with the 250-6, but it was probably beyond Italy at that time.

(i'm aware that you found the reference to these being a 2v motor, just like rambling on about this sort of thing)

[dangerous]

OK ..I've found a 125 CV, 1420cc kit for a guzzi ....
Big bucks tho aye? 125hp can be done, infact I think someone has managed 136hp these specs are for the 4 valve motor dont no whats possible out of a 2 valver.

[ResidentAngel]

Big bucks tho aye? 125hp can be done, infact I think someone has managed 136hp these specs are for the 4 valve motor dont no whats possible out of a 2 valver.

ok .... now .. I want a Guzzi Ballabio (so I can sit up!) ... tuned like a VMax ... grins .... with a decent fairing

the kit is for the 850 and 1000 engines ... I presume that they are very different from the 1100? And there are no costs given ...

I loved my guzzi ... it was very very safe, despite the fact I fell off it ( I was really tired at the time, and I made a mistake, looking for children getting off a bus, and not seeing the fact that the bus was actually stopped for cattle crossing the road - stupid me was looking for people, and not expecting cows!) ... what a waste of a nice guzzi!

[dangerous]

ok .... now .. I want a Guzzi Ballabio (so I can sit up!) ... tuned like a VMax ... grins .... with a decent fairing

the kit is for the 850 and 1000 engines ... I presume that they are very different from the 1100? And there are no costs given ...

I loved my guzzi ... it was very very safe, despite the fact I fell off it ... what a waste of a nice guzzi!
if you want a Ballabio with a decent fairing then the V11 Lemans corsa is what ya need.

850/1000 are the same block as the 1100..... differant cams valves etc basicly the same.

damn.... yes that was a wast, but better the Guzzi than you aye :ride:

[warren35]

You mean like a push start?? I did that 'once' over and over again..... frigen electrics and in the middle of know were.... then what ya know a 5yr old woundered along asked if he could push the start button, i figgered well it ait going to start anyway....... I dont know who shit there pants more me or him cos the bitch started...... never ever figgered that one out................. shit were was I . ohh yeah hell I even pulled a few whelie's (with great difficulties) and never had any probs with the shaft and it was up to 80,000kms.

Ummm.... regarding the Daytona for more power over the sport......... 2 0r 5hp depending on which model fuk all there what did you recken?
I have ridden carb & inj 1100 and the daytona single seat & RS..... early Daytona's were...... well...... no offence ment but not a patch on either 1100, but the RS with 10hp more and a wicked power band....... damn I want one
yeah mate the bastard snapped when i tried to roll start it down the hill but it had a gut full of fuel and when i dropped the clutch in third it went bang in a big way.i recon the 1000 daytona is a better reving big and did give better performance over my 1100 sport which had lanfraconi sports cans and a aport chip and dynoed at 87 hp.the injected 1100 was my preferance to ride though

[Paul in NZ]

Well I better add my opinion.

Bump starting my 850 Mk2 is a piece of piss. Don't try it on an spine frame (odd drive shaft) or an EFI bike without the diode to protect the 'puter.

Without machining, I think that the biggest practical limit to a round fin is 950cc and 1050cc for a square fin. After that, be prepared to spend big $$$.

Dunno about the broad sump engine (V11)

If you want a Guzzi, cherish it for what it is, do the usual modifications but if you think it can be a 120bhp plus superbike you will be disappointed. Yes, the factory claimed 102 / 90 for the Daytona / 1100 sport but. Well most honest dynos show them a little lighter than that!

I love Guzzis. They demand commitment but reward the soul but a 2 valve aircooled ditch pump with it's origins firmly in the 60's is not going to compete with a water cooled multi valve OHC modern jappa in terms of BHP or liveability.

Hot it up if you must but perhaps you could just love one for what it is! A product of original thinkers that totally believe they are going the right way despite all the sign posts warning them of the cliffs ahead! Ya just gotta love that!

Paul N

BTW - Mine make about 56 RW BHP after a good tune up which is great for a roundie. The straight cut box gives me a few more ponies through less friction.

[dangerous]

Well I better add my opinion.

Bump starting my 850 Mk2 is a piece of piss. Don't try it on an spine frame (odd drive shaft) or an EFI bike without the diode to protect the 'puter.

Without machining, I think that the biggest practical limit to a round fin is 950cc and 1050cc for a square fin. After that, be prepared to spend big $$$.

Dunno about the broad sump engine (V11)

If you want a Guzzi, cherish it for what it is, do the usual modifications but if you think it can be a 120bhp plus superbike you will be disappointed. Yes, the factory claimed 102 / 90 for the Daytona / 1100 sport but. Well most honest dynos show them a little lighter than that!

I love Guzzis. They demand commitment but reward the soul but a 2 valve aircooled ditch pump with it's origins firmly in the 60's is not going to compete with a water cooled multi valve OHC modern jappa in terms of BHP or liveability.

Hot it up if you must but perhaps you could just love one for what it is! A product of original thinkers that totally believe they are going the right way despite all the sign posts warning them of the cliffs ahead! Ya just gotta love that!

Paul N

BTW - Mine make about 56 RW BHP after a good tune up which is great for a roundie. The straight cut box gives me a few more ponies through less friction.
hey Paul.... all so true, and yes I knew I shouldent have pushed my bike.

[Paul in NZ]

Funny thing. Mrs H has taken an interest in the new Guzzi Nevada. Maybe it's to do with her concussion...

Maybe? But it's a lot nicer than the old one and now has EFI and (hopefully) the new gear box.

[warren35]

ok ... I think I am looking for another bike .... been thinkng about a VMax to go with my VF, , but seems hard to get a new one - wondering about a Guzzi (had an 850 Le Mans a long time ago, and loved it!), but the hp rating isnt that high on the Guzzi ... and so I am wondering whether for the slow type riding I do, whether it will ever matter?

so ... has anyone ridden the 102 bhp version of the 1100 ? ... (and yes, I've been looking at the Aprilla as well, and wondering whether 120 hp is enough ?)

It would be nice if someone made a list of the power and torque ratings of the larger bikes .... plus weight .
hello bud.the 1100 and 1000 are great tourers and are a resonable sports bike that will sit on 160kms all day if you want to but lack that instance squirt unlike the aprilia.but haveing said that,ive been rideing with alot of gsxr 1000;s lattley and man they make my bike look so slow.but only on the straights mind you.at the end of the day it personal preferance but the guzzies go well and go for ever if they are serviced when required.hope this helped bud

[James Deuce]

Maybe? But it's a lot nicer than the old one and now has EFI and (hopefully) the new gear box.

Yes it does have the new gearbox. I've read a couple of RAVING reviews for the damn thing. I mean lovely lump of sculpted Italian metal.

[dangerous]

wondering about a Guzzi (had an 850 Le Mans a long time ago, and loved it!), but the hp rating isnt that high on the Guzzi ...
Well the HP may not be very high, but for some reason the old tubs still keep up..... the T5 (850 with small carbs) in the pic 2 up I might add was on my ass through the weka pass last w/e...................... so HP dont mean shit at the end of the day

[James Deuce]

Well the HP may not be very high, but for some reason the old tubs still keep up..... the T5 (850 with small carbs) in the pic 2 up I might add was on my ass through the weka pass last w/e...................... so HP dont mean shit at the end of the day
Hear, hear! Go for ride with Paul in NZ if you want that RAMMED home.