Fucking darkies

[DMNTD]

And he's not talking about his riding style.

Obviously...High sides...not high times :devil2:

[Irontusk]

Don't hold back Irontusk, tell us how you really feel!

I wouldn't expect a job that could depend on physical strength to ensure safety, and to be paid as much as someone who is stronger, just because I wasn't born with a larger build.. I hardly think I'm being unfair with this reasoning.

[fire eyes]

I wouldn't expect a job that could depend on physical strength to ensure safety, and to be paid as much as someone who is stronger, just because I wasn't born with a larger build.. I hardly think I'm being unfair with this reasoning.

I was merely encouraging you to express your inner most thoughts!

[DMNTD]

I wouldn't expect a job that could depend on physical strength to ensure safety, and to be paid as much as someone who is stronger, just because I wasn't born with a larger build.. I hardly think I'm being unfair with this reasoning.

The guy that taught me to kick box was 76kgs dripping wet....tell him that size matters.
Know plenty many people that use skill over brawn

[justsomeguy]

Disappointed Devil, was not aware you sported racist tendencies.

Yeah M, I know you're pissed off, but starting a thread with the title "Fucking Darkies"??


Racial epithets are weapons, regardless of who is flinging them.
They hurt, provoke and anger and are most often hurled in anger.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, Mine is I don't think it's appropriate in a public forum.

Very well said. Agree completely.

Devil there's no way you can use a generalist term and refer to a specific incident.

"Fucking darkies" means all dark skinned people are bad in some way.

Never been directly the target of racism, but see it everywhere a bit too often.

Prisons aside... Looking at the real world - I work in recruitment and deal with people "selecting" people all day.

In NZ and Australia you guys will be suprised at the amount of racism - candidates rejected purely based on thier name, even if they have great local experience. The lack of promotions, purposely stifling peoples careers...It works both ways guys. Blacks, White, Coloureds, Browns, Yellows.....There is racism everywhere and it sucks.

It starts with simple crap like sportsbike riders vs cruisers (discrimination/us vs them) and extends to much more serious issues in every aspect of life. Even north India vs south India....... there are no innocent parties.... India vs Kashmir, Palenstine vs Israel, Russia vs Chechnia (spelling), America vs flavour of the month....

[avgas]

Obviously...High sides...not high times :devil2:
That would be the Te Puke Few........all the 1.5 triumph bonnies of it

[avgas]

And he's not talking about his riding style.
or his zipper configuration

[justsomeguy]

The guy that taught me to kick box was 76kgs dripping wet....tell him that size matters.
Know plenty many people that use skill over brawn

Yeah - I'm half your weight and I can kick your butt easy:devil2:

[justsomeguy]

EIGHTEEN PAGES IN 2 HOURS........

BLOODY HELL, DON'T ALL YOU HONKIES, DARKIES, SLANT EYED GOOKS, NIGGERS, CURRY MUNCHERS, WOGS, HARLEY AND DUCATI RIDERS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO?!?!?!?

:girlfight:

[Whynot]

EIGHTEEN PAGES IN 2 HOURS........

BLOODY HELL, DON'T ALL YOU HONKIES, DARKIES, SLANT EYED GOOKS, NIGGERS, CURRY MUNCHERS, WOGS, HARLEY AND DUCATI RIDERS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO?!?!?!?

:girlfight:

:Oi:
You calling me Fat ????

[justsomeguy]

:Oi:
You calling me Fat ????

....... and your mama too:banana:

[MadDuck]

You calling me Fat ????

Nah I think he called you ugly ;)

[Whynot]

....... and your mama too:banana:

you would know ...... :eek5:

[McJim]

Isn't this a thread about sex with dark skinned ladies? Oh well, my bad - I'll go search some pron sites then...as you were....

[cs363]

Isn't this a thread about sex with dark skinned ladies? Oh well, my bad - I'll go search some pron sites then...as you were....


mmmm....it did seem like it was going that way, but sadly it appears not!


P.S. When you find that thread, let me know will ya??! :)

[outlawtorn]

EIGHTEEN PAGES IN 2 HOURS........

BLOODY HELL, DON'T ALL YOU HONKIES, DARKIES, SLANT EYED GOOKS, NIGGERS, CURRY MUNCHERS, WOGS, HARLEY AND DUCATI RIDERS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO?!?!?!?

:girlfight:

who you calling a Harley rider?????

[Irontusk]

The guy that taught me to kick box was 76kgs dripping wet....tell him that size matters.
Know plenty many people that use skill over brawn

Well, I'm lighter than that and 6', havn't found anything to do much about it, I put it down to genetics, which is the apparent reasoning behind the seperate criteria. And if it's the execution of skill that is important, then why do guys have to meet HIGHER requirements if the lower standard is acceptable? (Also it's not just pure strength, more time is allowed for women to complete the run, whatever distance that is over.) Besides physical ability and skill are irrelevant to the uni situation, which is what I was giving a comparison to, seeing as it is 'slightly' relevant to the thread topic. Don't want to stray too far now, do we? :laugh:

[Irontusk]

EIGHTEEN PAGES IN 2 HOURS........


26 hours, actually :girlfight: :bleh:

[justsomeguy]

quote=McJim;1714909]Isn't this a thread about sex with dark skinned ladies? Oh well, my bad - I'll go search some pron sites then...as you were....[/quote]

You ride a ducati and wear a skirt- surely you mean dark skinned lad's?:whistle:

Oh wait that would be me.....:shit: NOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo:confused:

[SixPackBack]

Isn't this a thread about sex with dark skinned ladies? Oh well, my bad - I'll go search some pron sites then...as you were....

:niceone:..........Halle Berry please:devil2:

[McJim]

You ride a ducati and wear a skirt- surely you mean dark skinned lad's?:whistle:

Oh wait that would be me.....:shit: NOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo:confused:

Pucker up sonny - you is my little puppy dog now:buggerd:

[marty]

And simplistic. It's nothing to do with ethnicity. It's all to do with deprivation. People who lack the necessary economic wherewithal will often resort to alternative measures to close the gap between themselves and the "haves". Buying a big fence, burglar alarm and a gun is not the answer. And taking cheap shots at the various ethic groups who are overrepresented in our crime statistics does nothing to solve the problem either. People have no choice as to who their parents are. It can't be much fun being a member of an underprivileged minority that is often the butt of redneck jokes.

I understand your argument, however they DO have a choice as to whether or not they act like a bunch of knuckledraggers, or contribute in some positive way to the community that they share with everyone else.

[justsomeguy]

I understand your argument, however they DO have a choice as to whether or not they act like a bunch of knuckledraggers, or contribute in some positive way to the community that they share with everyone else.

True mate.

Being a loser is a choice.

There are always jobs there for those willing to work.

[cs363]

:niceone:..........Halle Berry please:devil2:



Take two and call me in the morning...........I want to know everything..... :laugh:

[Tank]

Nice to see how may people gave more of a shit about the thread title than the incident.

[Tank]

The guy that taught me to kick box was 76kgs dripping wet....tell him that size matters.
Know plenty many people that use skill over brawn

size still matters - an equally skilled kickboxer of 110kg will still whip the the 76kg guy.

[Hitcher]

I understand your argument, however they DO have a choice as to whether or not they act like a bunch of knuckledraggers, or contribute in some positive way to the community that they share with everyone else.

"Choice" is an interest concept at the best of times, and particularly in this context.

[Posted at the risk of setting off those with divine knowledge who think they hold the patent on personal suffering and grief...]

[marty]

Having seen both sides of the fence, I say it's a choice. 9 times out of 10, the easier choice wins out, and when you are unmotivated, or when the expectation is that you will not acheive the accepted norm, even if you KNOW that it's not the right thing to do (shooting someone with a paintball gun is NEVER going to be the right thing to do) the choice here is to do it anyway

[Irontusk]

Having seen both sides of the fence, I say it's a choice. 9 times out of 10, the easier choice wins out, and when you are unmotivated, or when the expectation is that you will not acheive the accepted norm, even if you KNOW that it's not the right thing to do (shooting someone with a paintball gun is NEVER going to be the right thing to do) the choice here is to do it anyway

To be specific to this situation.. how is it easier to go out, buy a paintball gun and all the bits to go with it, then drive around and shoot people for no reason? This clearly is a decision to go out and make an effort to be a dick.

[Whynot]

To be specific to this situation.. how is it easier to go out, buy a paintball gun and all the bits to go with it, then drive around and shoot people for no reason? This clearly is a decision to go out and make an effort to be a dick.

good point that.
must be the parents and societies fault .... :rolleyes:

[BIGBOSSMAN]

To be specific to this situation.. how is it easier to go out, buy a paintball gun and all the bits to go with it, then drive around and shoot people for no reason? This clearly is a decision to go out and make an effort to be a dick.

Holy crap. is this a coincidence or what!!

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=81089

[Irontusk]

good point that.
must be the parents and societies fault .... :rolleyes:

Well then no one can blame me for being racist, it must be my parents and society's fault :rolleyes: I see the tongue and cheek in your post, but there are those who excuse what people do with that same statement, so I had to go for it :yes:

[oldrider]

To be specific to this situation.. how is it easier to go out, buy a paintball gun and all the bits to go with it, then drive around and shoot people for no reason? This clearly is a decision to go out and make an effort to be a dick.

Got to say that even at my age, the temptation to do exactly that was almost overpowering!

I demo fired a big Rambo paintball machine gun in a Timaru shop the other day.

Thousands of images of bastards I would like to test it on, ran through my mind before and since I left that shop.

Rambo paintball guns are an acquired taste and I have had the yum yums ever since! :2guns: John.

[Irontusk]

Got to say that even at my age, the temptation to do exactly that was almost overpowering!

I demo fired a big Rambo paintball machine gun in a Timaru shop the other day.

Thousands of images of bastards I would like to test it on, ran through my mind before and since I left that shop.

Rambo paintball guns are an acquired taste and I have had the yum yums ever since! :2guns: John.

Yeah I've sat in traffic and thought it'd be nice to remind the drivers that're doing stupid shit that they aren't the only ones on the road, but I wouldn't do it.. and shooting a biker is alot worse than shooting a car window! (Unless the ball is frozen, it's not gonna do anything to a window other than make a nice loud noise inside the car and leave some paint behind)

I was looking at buying a paintball gun not long ago, but it would've been that or put off getting a bike for even longer!

[MIZXR]

BUT for me being part Nigger/Migga/Darkie/Grass Skirt Dancing Chicky and obvious beneficiary since coz Maori is in my blood it means I live off Welfare! ...

sorry carried away with stereotyping



Pakeha ... those who are Non-Maori .. Non-Maori being those who do not look the same or live by the same principles as those of our own culture.


so that would be most of the modern Maori then?



Since the obvious first Pakeha


Actually that would be the Mori Ori - nor white skined


were of white skin it was natural that the meaning extending to all white people .. however!!!! Pakeha actually extends to all of different cultures who are not that of Maori ... simple explanation .. in a non-derogatory manner!


Best explanation I've ever heard so I'll play nice



Hmm MIZXR ... wannna come fluff up my grass skirt now sugar??????? :whistle:


If it's completely traditional and not barstardized like the traditional maree?? with the corragated iron roof I'd love too. But you would have to come down here cause the warmth and sun tend to make my neck red.:sweatdrop

wait sugar - enuff with the racist remarks already:angry2:

[Adulf]

With the brain of a 5 year old they shouldn't be allowed the car to drive around in to start with!

Since this thread already has a bit of a tone to it (thread title, and the idea of the car being stolen) who reckons our tax dollars paid for the car, paintball gun, and the kfc they had for lunch?

Well said Dude. I must say my first thought was if the islander was in the back seat, may be it was a cop car.

But if they are just driving around being wankers and burning gas, they must be beneficiary's, as they seam to be the only ones that can aford to do it.

[Owl]

Thats a whole diffrent argument right their.. Some people see in shades of grey and others see in black and white.. My guess is its literally different wiring in the brain.


It's called intelligence.

A part of not been racist is the ability to see in black and white. We are not all grey and we all have different needs!

[Devil]

Devil there's no way you can use a generalist term and refer to a specific incident.

"Fucking darkies" means all dark skinned people are bad in some way.



Okeedokee people. This is where people seem to be having trouble.

If i'd just piped up and said "Fucking darkies, they're all criminals" then sure, I'd expect all this crap.

There is COMPLETELY a way I can use what I said to refer to a specific incident and it's called context. Take the content of my thread away from the topic and you have one thing. Put it back in and you have another.

Yes I can (and will) refer to that small group of dropkicks however I like. As I mentioned in an earlier post (around page 2 or 3) I respect all regardless of their colour/ethnicity, by default. Once they've done something like this, that's it, those specific people go down in my rankings and wont get my respect. Not the whole ethnic group, not all people with similar coloured skin, just the perpetrators.

[Flatcap]

A part of not been racist is the ability to see in black and white. We are not all grey and we all have different needs!

Some of us have Special Needs

[MSTRS]

To be specific to this situation.. how is it easier to go out, buy a paintball gun and all the bits to go with it, then drive around and shoot people for no reason? This clearly is a decision to go out and make an effort to be a dick.

I can't believe no-one picked up on this...

[Devil]

I'm reconsidering contributing anything to KB because the point is constantly missed.

[Hitcher]

I'm reconsidering contributing anything to KB because the point is constantly missed.

Are Pamela Anderson's tits fake, or what?

[fire eyes]

sorry carried away with stereotyping
so that would be most of the modern Maori then?
Actually that would be the Mori Ori - nor white skined
Best explanation I've ever heard so I'll play nice
If it's completely traditional and not barstardized like the traditional maree?? with the corragated iron roof I'd love too. But you would have to come down here cause the warmth and sun tend to make my neck red.:sweatdrop
wait sugar - enuff with the racist remarks already:angry2:

I was brought up with the understanding that Mori Ori were the first Maori to migrate to New Zealand.. the missionairies were the first pakeha ever seen.

Traditional Marae actually couldnt sustain current climate/element conditions .. thats why modern materials/technology is/are used. Also traditional marae could not sustain the volume of people that actually attend events now. Back then, huge gatherings were not common and were really only located at certain Marae .. with the convenience of modern transport, it means people can get to events easier, faster and actually participate!

Ohh and you don't have to play nice with me! I don't play nice! Im just keeping it real lol ... and how do you know I wasnt talking about raw sugar baby! hahahahahaha .... :shutup: Im a loverrrrrrrr not a fighterrrrrrrr

[Hitcher]

Captain Cook's crew would probably have been the first pakeha seen. And there were sealers and whalers here well before any missionaries.

Gahh! Pedant alert!

[fire eyes]

I'm reconsidering contributing anything to KB because the point is constantly missed.

freedom of speech Devil! Don't let the tone stop you from contributing .. you have some valid points in your post and it does highlight the dangers of what someone elses idiotic behavior can actually do. The potential to take out an eye, cause an accident or worse was a little to close for comfort, agreed .. fuckin darkie expression? cmon .. you didnt expect world war 3 in this thread lol .. :spanking: glad you went seriously hurt in the paintball situation.

[fire eyes]

Yes .. obviously the crew would have been seen Hitcher! but the Misionairies are the ones most talked about not Captain Cook or any Whalers or Sealers!

[marty]

Buying big-ticket items is not something high up on the list of things people like these do. 'Acquiring’ them is more likely. There are many ways to get your hands on a paint ball gun, the least likely is that they bought it.

It is always easier to make a decision to be a dick with no consequences (that may not even need to be a conscious decision) than it is to make a decision to get off your fat arse and go and find a job.

(edit - i've just read the post above........)

[Irontusk]

I can't believe no-one picked up on this...

If you're getting at what I think you're getting at.. how did I miss it! And this statement contains no racism at all, it's because of what they're doing that would make us think they might've stolen it, not the skin colour.

Well, I'm not going to be able to get my entertainment here for a while, going on holiday and my computer is going into a shop to get fixed. :bye:

[MSTRS]

If you're getting at what I think you're getting at.. how did I miss it! And this statement contains no racism at all, it's because of what they're doing that would make us think they might've stolen it, not the skin colour.



Really? I would think it would be both. And that's not being racist...it is the law of averages at work.

[avgas]

Isn't this a thread about sex
When is it EVER!!!!! oh wait there's a porn thread.......

[Mikkel]

Im a loverrrrrrrr not a fighterrrrrrrr

You must be a racer too... With all of those "r"s you'd have to be pretty fucking fast :yes:

[marty]

You must be a racer too... With all of those "r"s you'd have to be pretty fucking fast :yes:

or from Gore

[fire eyes]

or from Gore

Worse! .. from Hawera LOL

[musicman]

Devil there's no way you can use a generalist term and refer to a specific incident.

"Fucking darkies" means all dark skinned people are bad in some way.Okeedokee people. This is where people seem to be having trouble.

If i'd just piped up and said "Fucking darkies, they're all criminals" then sure, I'd expect all this crap.

There is COMPLETELY a way I can use what I said to refer to a specific incident and it's called context. Take the content of my thread away from the topic and you have one thing. Put it back in and you have another.

Yes I can (and will) refer to that small group of dropkicks however I like. As I mentioned in an earlier post (around page 2 or 3) I respect all regardless of their colour/ethnicity, by default. Once they've done something like this, that's it, those specific people go down in my rankings and wont get my respect. Not the whole ethnic group, not all people with similar coloured skin, just the perpetrators.

Yes, that is also how I interpreted it.

I don't see how saying something like "f**king darkies" can be used to apply to every dark-skinned person in the universe. Of course there will be truly racist people that are prejudiced against every person of a certain race, but Devil isn't one of those (those people are very obvious).

I'm an Asian and I sometimes use the term "stupid Asians", does that mean I'm saying ALL Asians, including me, are stupid? No, of course not, it means whichever Asian is being stupid, is stupid.

When a person says something like "silly boy" does that mean every boy is silly? And does "hot chick" mean every chick is hot? No, of course not, they only apply to the specific person they are used on, otherwise we would have people saying these are sexist remarks. So why would "dumb Asian" or "f**king darkie" be any different?

[imdying]

So why "f**king darkie" be any different?Because in this country, if you hate those bloody niggers, you're some sort of criminal :rolleyes:

Really, it's the Crown's fault... if they'd done the job properly 150 years ago, this wouldn't be an issue.

[Devil]

Really, it's the Crown's fault... if they'd done the job properly 150 years ago, this wouldn't be an issue.

Even I wouldn't touch that one! :bleh:

[imdying]

Heh, I'm just winding... I should be in the garage making a mould :lol:

[Owl]

I thought they were Poly's not Mori oris.


No thats where wrong they are human

Pull your head in enigma51! Yes they are human (big fucken?) and yes they can be Polynesian too. Its PC crap like that, that promotes racism. If you want to be the stand up whitey and tell a Maori he's human, just like you, then fill yer boots.
When I meet someone, the first thing that strikes me is gender, followed by ethnicity (colour), size and features! I imagine you do a similar thing, only you'll dodge around the ethnicity like its invisible and you only see them as "human". Well bollocks to that! All races ARE different, have different cultures and deserve to be recognized as different.
What’s coming next in this PC world? Will we no longer be able to call a woman a woman or a man a man, because gender is irrelevant and we’re all human?

Rant over.

Devil, I enjoyed reading your post and hope these assholes get what’s coming to them. Bottom feeders is an appropriate description, though I hope you don’t offend any fish!:msn-wink:

[MIZXR]

I was brought up with the understanding that Mori Ori were the first Maori to migrate to New Zealand.. the missionairies were the first pakeha ever seen.

cool so you admit to wiping your own kind out of NZ and off to another island
friendly kind yours

No Explorers, whalers and traders



Traditional Marae actually couldnt sustain current climate/element conditions .. thats why modern materials/technology is/are used.

So that would make them just a normal building then if not built for traditional reasons in non traditional places?



Also traditional marae could not sustain the volume of people that actually attend events now. Back then, huge gatherings were not common and were really only located at certain Marae ..

No shit you normally ate each other and lots of the tribes had issues with their neighbours.



with the convenience of modern transport, it means people can get to events easier, faster and actually participate!

thats not traditional.


Ohh and you don't have to play nice with me! I don't play nice! Im just keeping it real lol ... and how do you know I wasnt talking about raw sugar baby! hahahahahaha .... :shutup: Im a loverrrrrrrr not a fighterrrrrrrr
[/QUOTE]

At least you didn't tell me I deserved to be run over

[jc-vtr]

sounds like a typical kaffir thing!!man they are just a waste of space,sure there are good ones but the majority are wankers and spoil it for the rest,now call me racist but if it was a bunch of white guys doing this shit id say the same about them,but every single time its always these black bastards,i have bros living next door and they swear and yell and party,i dont even like having my garage door open for fear that they will spot 1 of my bikes and decide to target my house!!! now thats not a way to live but its reality.im sick of it, i cant walk down the street with my wife and baby and if you accidently look at them then they want to take you on and they would for no reason,i say get a grip and a job like the rest of us, why should it be so easy for them!!!!!!! now dont judge me, im not saying they are all bad but man alot of them are!! :2guns:

[fire eyes]

cool so you admit to wiping your own kind out of NZ and off to another island
friendly kind yours
No Explorers, whalers and traders
So that would make them just a normal building then if not built for traditional reasons in non traditional places?
No shit you normally ate each other and lots of the tribes had issues with their neighbours.
thats not traditional.At least you didn't tell me I deserved to be run over



Plenty of educational material available for reference!

Traditional reasons yes. Traditional process yes. Traditional locations most of the time. Traditional materials .. no only in part .. again as reasons outlined in previous post.

Yes absolutely! tribal wars & definitely cannabalism. I remember my granfather saying his grandmother always said with a wide smile 'he reka te tangata' meaning the person was sweet .. in reference to eating them ... but I must point out .. (and this should bring in some interesting posts lol) .. she never actually ate any Pakeha .. apparently it was considered diseased meat! I personally havent eaten human meat so cannot confirm its sweetness.

Ohh MIZXR .. where would the fun be in running you over? far more entertaining keeping you alive I would think! :love:

[skidMark]

Got shot in the back with a paintball gun this afternoon on the way home from work.
Waiting at lights to turn right from Onewa rd into Birkenhead ave, car pulled up behind, then pulled out to go straight ahead. *THWAP* shot in the backpack as they came past about 1m from me. Took off after the bastards who had to stop at the next lights and did the expected "what the french toast was that?!". Three poly's, in their 30's all acting the man. Back seat passenger started to open the door as though going to get out so just walked the bike backwards, got their plate, did a U turn a parked up 50m down the road and *555'd them. Followed it up with a formal complaint at the cop shop immediately afterwards.

Godamn bottom feeders.

KILLER BEEZ :eek:

[MIZXR]

Ha and I always thought it was the blankets that made them sick.... guess not:dodge:

Now I'm really worried bout you calling me sugar. Brings on a whole new meaning.

So going to use that saying in the next cultural awareness (read Maori loving) course I'm forced on. Thanks.

[Ixion]

Yes, that is also how I interpreted it.

I don't see how saying something like "f**king darkies" can be used to apply to every dark-skinned person in the universe. Of course there will be truly racist people that are prejudiced against every person of a certain race, but Devil isn't one of those (those people are very obvious).

I'm an Asian and I sometimes use the term "stupid Asians", does that mean I'm saying ALL Asians, including me, are stupid? No, of course not, it means whichever Asian is being stupid, is stupid.

When a person says something like "silly boy" does that mean every boy is silly? And does "hot chick" mean every chick is hot? No, of course not, they only apply to the specific person they are used on, otherwise we would have people saying these are sexist remarks. So why would "dumb Asian" or "f**king darkie" be any different?

Just so.

The use of stereotypical expressions is justified where there is a reasonable correlation between the (objectionable) behaviour of the individual and that of the (stereotyped) community, and where that behaviour is not denounced or proscribed by the group

For instance : Members of the Mormon church commonly evangelise by going round and knocking on peoples' doors (No offence Mr Carver, nothing personal and props to them for following their beliefs, just need an example).

Such evangelism is objected to by some people, whose rest is thus disturbed (or who are, perhaps, mid shag) They may legitimately declaim "Bloody Mormons, interrupting people like that". There is a close fit betwen the individual and the group. That is not to imply that EVERY Mormon has knocked on the objector's door, nor to deny that there may be some Mormons who never disturb people. Howver, many Mormons do do so, and the Mormons , as a group, are unlikely to condemn them for it.

Likewise, a traffic cop who has just issued a ticket to a motorcyclist for riding at 200kph whilst sitting on the front mudguard (once again Mr carver, nothing personal) , may declaim "Bloody nmotorcyclists, always speeding". Once again there is a close correlation between the individual and the group. That is not to say that every motorcyclist breaks the law (there may well be motorcyclists who never speed. Well, it's theoretically possible). Just that the behaviour of the individual is typical of the group. Biut most bikers do speed (sometimes , anyway. Except me.). And as a group we are unlikely to condemn or proscribe those who do.

Contrary wise however , there may well be motorcyclists who are Mormons. But it would be wrong for the traffic cop who has stopped one to castigate Mormons as a group for breaches of the road rules (ie to say "Bloody Mormons always speeding"). By and large Mormons are probably no more likely to speed than any other group. Or for the blue-balled complainant to cry "Bloody motorcyclists, knocking on peoples doors ". By and large motorcyclists do not knock on folks' doors.

In the instance that started this thread, the OP was assaulted , by being shot at with a paint ball gun. The deed was done by "darkies" (by which we may infer Polynesians ). He condemns "bloody darkies" as a group for the sins of individuals. We have seen that this is legitimate if the objectionable behaviour is reasonably typical of the group as a whole , and is not denounced by the group. The question therefore is : is such antisocial behaviour typical of Polynesians, and not denounced by them.

I can offer no certain opinion on that. I know Polynesians who would be horrified by such behaviour . But by and large I fear it must be said that antisocial thuggery is not atypical of Polynesian society (male Polynesian society particularly) and does not seem to be strongly deprecated by them .

So, probably, Mr Devils condemnation is justified. He is saying in effect " I object strongly to the conduct of these people. It is typical of the behaviour of the group to which they belong, and which I will perjoratively denounce". That is rather long winded. "Bloody darkies" says the same thing more concisely. He does not thereby imply or declare that every "darkie" does such things.

[CHOPPA]

come with me into town on a sat night and lets see whos racist..... Seems to be pretty one sided, if i call someone black then im racist but they can call me white...? Problem is theres not enough white guys that stand up for them selves, if a bunch of maoris see other maoris in a fight they jump in, i have been in the situation many times when everyone around will let me take on a whole fucken tribe. All my maoris mates are some of the best guys to have as mates. If your racist it means you hate them because they are black brown whatever, you will find 99% of people aint like that but when there is someone you do hate and you are trying to explain them why is it you cant give a detailed explaination? If i ever have trouble with a white guy i will always describe him as a white guy as well. I hate it when people throw around the racist word your the people that cause the problems!

[nodrog]

im not racist, i own a coloured TV.

[Tank]

im not racist, i own a coloured TV.

who cares what colour your transvestite is.

[nodrog]

who cares what colour your transvestite is.

exactly, its whats on the inside that counts (not what used to dangle from the outside)

[Murray]

A part of not been racist is the ability to see in black and white. We are not all grey and we all have different needs!

What if your blind??? And on that matter if you are born blind do you dream and if so what do you dream about??

[sinfull]

who cares what colour your transvestite is.


exactly, its whats on the inside that counts (not what used to dangle from the outside)

You'd still be in the shit there bro !

[nodrog]

You'd still be in the shit there bro !

up the bum no babies

[Tank]

up the bum no babies

You are such a romantic.:rockon:

[DMNTD]

up the bum no babies

I thought that's where... :blank:

[MSTRS]

I thought that's where... :blank:

That's just the unemployed...

[nodrog]

I thought that's where... :blank:

....chocolate covered rasins come from?

[The Pastor]

did the police ever follow it up?

[sinfull]

....chocolate covered rasins come from?

Only baaaaaaaaabara's mate only baaaaaaaabara's, ya just got to watch they don't fall in ya gumboot when, well you know the thing, or ya get winegumboots !

[fire eyes]

Ha and I always thought it was the blankets that made them sick.... guess not:dodge:

Now I'm really worried bout you calling me sugar. Brings on a whole new meaning.

So going to use that saying in the next cultural awareness (read Maori loving) course I'm forced on. Thanks.


Ohh, I'll come with you! Protect you from all those grass skirt wearing savages! Aww don'y fuss about my Sugar name for you, it suits you! Sugar just kinda rolls of the tongue ... :hug::love:

[sinfull]

Sugar just kinda rolls of the tongue ... :hug::love:
Awwww bit like them chocklate covered raisins

[fire eyes]

Awwww bit like them chocklate covered raisins

Ill stick with Sugar and leave you to the Chocolate Covered Raisins Sinfull!

[imdying]

Ohh, I'll come with you! Protect you from all those grass skirt wearing savages! Aww don'y fuss about my Sugar name for you, it suits you! Sugar just kinda rolls of the tongue ... :hug::love:Heh, well he does like to roll something up... :lol:

[svr]

Just so.

The use of stereotypical expressions is justified where there is a reasonable correlation between the (objectionable) behaviour of the individual and that of the (stereotyped) community, and where that behaviour is not denounced or proscribed by the group

The deed was done by "darkies" (by which we may infer Polynesians ). He condemns "bloody darkies" as a group for the sins of individuals. We have seen that this is legitimate if the objectionable behaviour is reasonably typical of the group as a whole , and is not denounced by the group. The question therefore is : is such antisocial behaviour typical of Polynesians, and not denounced by them.

So, probably, Mr Devils condemnation is justified. He is saying in effect " I object strongly to the conduct of these people. It is typical of the behaviour of the group to which they belong, and which I will perjoratively denounce". That is rather long winded. "Bloody darkies" says the same thing more concisely. He does not thereby imply or declare that every "darkie" does such things.

`Darkies' is a racist term. It is one of a long list of terms which has been used by whites to lower the value of non-whites to something a little below that of fully paid up members of the human race.

[Oscar]

Just so.

The use of stereotypical expressions is justified where there is a reasonable correlation between the (objectionable) behaviour of the individual and that of the (stereotyped) community, and where that behaviour is not denounced or proscribed by the group

For instance : Members of the Mormon church commonly evangelise by going round and knocking on peoples' doors (No offence Mr Carver, nothing personal and props to them for following their beliefs, just need an example).

Such evangelism is objected to by some people, whose rest is thus disturbed (or who are, perhaps, mid shag) They may legitimately declaim "Bloody Mormons, interrupting people like that". There is a close fit betwen the individual and the group. That is not to imply that EVERY Mormon has knocked on the objector's door, nor to deny that there may be some Mormons who never disturb people. Howver, many Mormons do do so, and the Mormons , as a group, are unlikely to condemn them for it.

Likewise, a traffic cop who has just issued a ticket to a motorcyclist for riding at 200kph whilst sitting on the front mudguard (once again Mr carver, nothing personal) , may declaim "Bloody nmotorcyclists, always speeding". Once again there is a close correlation between the individual and the group. That is not to say that every motorcyclist breaks the law (there may well be motorcyclists who never speed. Well, it's theoretically possible). Just that the behaviour of the individual is typical of the group. Biut most bikers do speed (sometimes , anyway. Except me.). And as a group we are unlikely to condemn or proscribe those who do.

Contrary wise however , there may well be motorcyclists who are Mormons. But it would be wrong for the traffic cop who has stopped one to castigate Mormons as a group for breaches of the road rules (ie to say "Bloody Mormons always speeding"). By and large Mormons are probably no more likely to speed than any other group. Or for the blue-balled complainant to cry "Bloody motorcyclists, knocking on peoples doors ". By and large motorcyclists do not knock on folks' doors.

In the instance that started this thread, the OP was assaulted , by being shot at with a paint ball gun. The deed was done by "darkies" (by which we may infer Polynesians ). He condemns "bloody darkies" as a group for the sins of individuals. We have seen that this is legitimate if the objectionable behaviour is reasonably typical of the group as a whole , and is not denounced by the group. The question therefore is : is such antisocial behaviour typical of Polynesians, and not denounced by them.

I can offer no certain opinion on that. I know Polynesians who would be horrified by such behaviour . But by and large I fear it must be said that antisocial thuggery is not atypical of Polynesian society (male Polynesian society particularly) and does not seem to be strongly deprecated by them .

So, probably, Mr Devils condemnation is justified. He is saying in effect " I object strongly to the conduct of these people. It is typical of the behaviour of the group to which they belong, and which I will perjoratively denounce". That is rather long winded. "Bloody darkies" says the same thing more concisely. He does not thereby imply or declare that every "darkie" does such things.

So, how long have you been Winston Peters' speech writer?

[inlinefour]

Define prejudice.

Define racism.

Anyone?

Im not going to use a dictionary for this but use my own opinion. Both are done by biggots who use that as a way of bullying a person or people. Usually its merely a way to boost their own self esteem as they have little of their own or they have personality issues. People posting on this thread might want to have a look at themselves and do some reflective thinking?

But in saying that, if I had been hit by a paintball gun I would be pissed off too. Ive got another way of dealing with individuals that try that sort of behaviour and I can tell you all that they will not like what happens if they are dumb enough to get close enough to be on the recieving end. The law in NZ is an arse and anyone dumb enough to shoot a paintball gun at a crazy cripple in a wheelchair and then get farked up for doing it will look fairly stupid when it ends up in court and possibly the paper. I don't give a shit if the Poolice charge me, my life was endangered and I will reserve the right to protect myself even if the law states otherwise. While Im at it, the law and the Poolice would look mighty stupid if I was charged in that situation. With violent crimes on the rise in NZ, its time they changed the law so we all have the right to protect ourselves. The crims are now using guns, I would like to have the right to have one also. Ive got a target air pistol so Im a reasonable shot. I just need something that does more damage and that does not have much of a recoil. Oh and I would like another SLR assult rifle, so I can be waiting if I know that they are coming.

While Im at it. This thread has gone well off topic and has been allowed to be turned into the bollocks that it is. Its about a bike being shot with a paintball gun.

[nodrog]

all you fucking racists should be ashamed, racism is a crime, and crime is for niggers.

[Owl]

What if your blind??? And on that matter if you are born blind do you dream and if so what do you dream about??

You mean "Visually challenged"?<_< A person born without sight dreams in audio only, cause how the fuck would they know what anything looks like.:cool:

[emaN]

all you fucking racists should be ashamed, racism is a crime, and crime is for niggers.
awwww maaaan... i gotta spread the lurve some more :shifty:

[flyingcr250]

With the brain of a 5 year old they shouldn't be allowed the car to drive around in to start with!

Since this thread already has a bit of a tone to it (thread title, and the idea of the car being stolen) who reckons our tax dollars paid for the car, paintball gun, and the kfc they had for lunch?

ha ha ha its so true, its the goverments fault for letting them come to this country and letting them go straight on the doll, bunch of ill educated savages. but in saying that some of them arent bad.

[SixPackBack]

ha ha ha its so true, its the goverments fault for letting them come to this country and letting them go straight on the doll, bunch of ill educated savages. but in saying that some of them arent bad.

*fookin' idiot*:angry2:

[Brett]

How in monkey balls did this get 23 pages this quick????????

Good on ya Devil, hope they get bum raped in custody.

[roy.nz]

I live in the area will watch out for that and if it happens my plate is hard to see and the drivers window will be laying all over his lap.Thats why carbon knuckle glove where made.Bashed a drivers mirror off already, he shat himself.
Ride safe

[MIZXR]

Ohh, I'll come with you! Protect you from all those grass skirt wearing savages! Aww don'y fuss about my Sugar name for you, it suits you! Sugar just kinda rolls of the tongue ... :hug::love:

AWWW honey that so sweet... I'll fluff your grass skirt anytime.

on a side note if I wore a grass skirt I'd probably be pretty savage too.:clap:

[fire eyes]

AWWW honey that so sweet... I'll fluff your grass skirt anytime.

on a side note if I wore a grass skirt I'd probably be pretty savage too.:clap:


(swings hips gently from side to side,whispering sugar sugar, bats eyelids, holds up near-new grass skirt for MIZXR & hoping hes over 18) :love::dodge:

[oldrider]

After "all of this thread" I can't remember, what was the effect of being hit by the paintball gun:IE mess, pain, sound etc?

How did you clean up your riding gear, or did it actually hit your bike? :mellow:

Can't be bothered reading all the way back! :shit: Curious, John.

[Murray]

So imdying, fatjim and enigma 51 all have the same avatar. Does this mean they are a cult and they all behave the same way???? Each to there own I say!!

[enigma51]

So imdying, fatjim and enigma 51 all have the same avatar. Does this mean they are a cult and they all behave the same way???? Each to there own I say!!

Need to know basis and guess what :mellow:

[imdying]

So imdying, fatjim and enigma 51 all have the same avatar. Does this mean they are a cult and they all behave the same way???? Each to there own I say!!Clearly you've not read the thread...

[enigma51]

Clearly you've not read the thread...

Neither did you.
You would have seen the post about 14 pages ago where i state i am taking the piss!

PS that was before you red rep;d me which i meant to ask. What where you saying in the red rep i dont speak idiot :)

[imdying]

PS that was before you red rep;d me which i meant to ask. What where you saying in the red rep i dont speak idiot :)I also red rep for bitching about red rep... you can expect it soon ;) Oh, and it's basis idiot ;)

[Tank]

So imdying, fatjim and enigma 51 all have the same avatar. Does this mean they are a cult and they all behave the same way???? Each to there own I say!!

Like a lot of people on the Interweb they have online personas that are somewhat different to what they are in real like.

In this case its just a bunch of normal blokes trying to look like Dangerous Bastards.

[Subike]

I hope the Darkies in the car get dome for "endangering traffic" which is a charge they can be done for if a firearms charge cannot be laid.
The "Endangering Traffic" charge can be laid against all occupants of the car.
Their actions were putting other road users at risk.
The discription "darkies" is a discription,


As to the racist stuff, in my opinion the worst of the worst are middle age white supreamest males, they dont give a fuck about anyother person than themselves. They are very good at hiding their lack of social values, their family values dont exist, they treat others as an item to use, not as people.
I would not like any of you to be on the recieving end of an attack by them, it normally ends in violent sexual abuse. Somethng the darkies dont lower themselves to, in this country anyway.

What do they look like?
The guy sitting next to you in the bus wearing a suit,
The guy driving the big linehaul truck
The guy building the church on the corner.

They look normal, if there was such a thing

But thats my opinion

[Tank]

As to the racist stuff, in my opinion the worst of the worst are middle age white supreamest males,

So white racist are worse than racist of another colour?

Tama Iti is not as bad simply because he is a Maori? Ever had your wife called a White Slut by a cunt like that simply because she was walking down a hallway when he came bundling out a door without looking?

What about the likes of the Hutu who killed millions of Tutsi - that was racially driven - but that's not as bad because they weren't white - or does that just mean there wasn't a racial motivation to you?

What about all the South Africans who have come to NZ simply because its Dangerous to be white in parts of SA?

Im so fucken sick of the "White Man" always been the bad fucker - There are millions of terrible, terrible people in the world and many, many of them are not white.

So in my view its the fucken middle aged white PC person making a warm fuzzy approach to being culturaly sensitive ignoring all the big issues.

[Hitcher]

So in my view its the fucken middle aged white PC person making a warm fuzzy approach to being culturaly sensitive ignoring all the big issues.

[Let's keep this crap going for another 24 pages]

And what "big issues" are us fucken middle aged white PC people ignoring?

[ManDownUnder]

Wee heee - another fiery debate on the same on topics... ok.

What the bad people did was wrong - shooting Mr Devil with a paintball gun

Calling the bad people "Darkies" is offensive to me.

[davo]

Disappointed Devil, was not aware you sported racist tendencies.

I gotta admit Im not PC enough for this world. They are dark skinned, and they shot him with a paint ball gun. They are indeed fucking darkies.

If they were white, and shot him with a paintball gun, they would be fucking honkies.

I suppose he should of said fucking male-pacific-islanders-of-medium-build approx age 30 shot me. Or is saying 'fucking' after someone has just shot you with a paintball gun not PC either. Perhaps they somehow are the victim here? I feel a waitangi claim coming on.

[MSTRS]

So white racist are worse than racist of another colour?



No. Because only whites can be racist. 'Other than white' are just practising their culture.
p/t

[Murray]

I suppose he should of said fucking male-pacific-islanders-of-medium-build approx age 30 shot me. Or is saying 'fucking' after someone has just shot you with a paintball gun not PC either.

Yes he should of said "having sexual intercourse male-pacific-islanders-of-medium-build approx age 30"

[mstriumph]

No. Because only whites can be racist. 'Other than white' are just practising their culture.
p/t many a true word spoken in jest - unfortunately :(

[Brian d marge]

[Let's keep this crap going for another 24 pages]

And what "big issues" are us fucken middle aged white PC people ignoring?


http://www.justice.govt.nz/pubs/reports/1998/imprisonment/index.html

Pop down to whos doing what , eight percent above the average , not a great deal it also doesn't say anything about our pacific island friends , nuts read it for your self:

The date 1986 are important ( i feel) ROGER ...where are you ,,look at the mess you caused ... IF ANYONE votes for him........ you need your head(s) tested. Market forces my arse !

In New Zealand, ethnicity is an important component of any analysis of the prison population. Māori inmates made up an estimated 45% of the male sentenced population in the 1995 prison census. (footnote 41) (http://www.justice.govt.nz/pubs/reports/1998/imprisonment/chapter_3.html#41) In comparison, Māori make up 10% of the male population of New Zealand aged 15 or over, or 14% of the male population in the key 15-39 age group. The proportion of male inmates accounted for by Māori offenders does not appear to have changed greatly since the first prison census in 1987, when 48% of the prison population were Māori. (footnote 42) (http://www.justice.govt.nz/pubs/reports/1998/imprisonment/chapter_3.html#42) However, the comparison is not fully reliable, as a different method was used to identify ethnicity in 1987 than in 1995.
Reception rates for Māori are much higher than for non-Māori for all offence groups and ages. In 1997 the overall reception rate for Māori males was 8 times greater than for non-Māori. (footnote 43) (http://www.justice.govt.nz/pubs/reports/1998/imprisonment/chapter_3.html#43) Part of the difference between Māori and non-Māori is accounted for by the younger age distribution of the Māori population, as young people in general are more likely to be offenders. (footnote 44) (http://www.justice.govt.nz/pubs/reports/1998/imprisonment/chapter_3.html#44) However, the high percentage of Māori in prison also reflects higher offending rates (measured by the rate of prosecutions per head of population) and a greater number of previous convictions on average compared to other ethnic groups, and a greater average seriousness of offending compared to other ethnic groups with the exception of Pacific peoples. (footnote 45) (http://www.justice.govt.nz/pubs/reports/1998/imprisonment/chapter_3.html#45)

[imdying]

Im so fucken sick of the "White Man" always been the bad fucker - There are millions of terrible, terrible people in the world and many, many of them are not white.Word niggah... people are all equally crappy (at times I guess), whether they're black (Mugabi) brown (Te whatawhoever eating the Morioris) white (Hitler) or yellow (insert some bad bad Asian man here, noone immediately comes to mind).


If they were white, and shot him with a paintball gun, they would be fucking honkies.Times have changed... they'd be 'fucking crackers' :blip:

[fire eyes]

so I guess the group hug is out of the question eh :grouphug:

[imdying]

so I guess the group hug is out of the question eh :grouphug:
Awww, come 'ere you, just don't steal my wallet <_<

[fire eyes]

Awww, come 'ere you, just don't steal my wallet <_<

(puts arms around imdying .. slowely moves hands downwards .. thinks damn .. no wallet .. next best thing .. slips hands inside his jeans .. grabs undies and pulls massive wedgie!!!!!!!!!!! .. notes imdying kinda like tight things up his .... :shutup::shit:)

[nadroj]

(puts arms around imdying .. slowely moves hands downwards .. thinks damn .. no wallet .. next best thing .. slips hands inside his jeans .. grabs undies and pulls massive wedgie!!!!!!!!!!! .. notes imdying kinda like tight things up his .... :shutup::shit:)

You're cruising for a front wedgie my gal!

[imdying]

Well! I never! Cheekie darkies! :rofl:

[fire eyes]

You're cruising for a front wedgie my gal!


My apologies Nadroj ... I should have offered you the wedgie first! Maybe next time eh. :hug:

[fire eyes]

Well! I never! Cheekie darkies! :rofl:

hahahaha .. actually within the context that this has been used I actually have no come back for that one! well done imdying lol

[Fatjim]

I hope the Darkies in the car get dome for "endangering traffic" which is a charge they can be done for if a firearms charge cannot be laid.
n

I think that has been repealed

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM329729.html?search=qs_all%40act%40bill%40regula tion_Endangering#DLM329729

[imdying]

Fortunately it's still a firearms offence, which the police still seem to think is worth chasing up, so hopefully there will be a happy ending to this story.

Paintballs today... frozen paintballs in an unregulated gun tomorrow? You can turn them into a potentially lethal weapon with bugger all effort, would be pretty unfortunate for the next poor biker if these muppets became bolder and tried even the simple aforementioned trick.

[325rocket]

is this bullshit still going on?

a pack of fuckwits shot at a biker from a car and some of you are giving the biker (Devil) shit!

nice work guys. :wacko:

[BIGBOSSMAN]

is this bullshit still going on?

a pack of fuckwits shot at a biker from a car and some of you are giving the biker (Devil) shit!

nice work guys. :wacko:

Yup, leave the paint splattered fucker alone won't you'se all - he's the victim here!
Anyhow to set the record straight, the perps were definitely NOT niggers - they are people of african descent. They must have been polynesians, so the following derogatory words would apply; coons / coconuts / jungle bunnies or boongas.
Let's get our racist descriptions accurate here, eh?
As you were...

[Flatcap]

Let's get our racist descriptions accurate here, eh?


You racist honkie!

[BIGBOSSMAN]

You racist honkie!

I is bleck on da inssside, home boy!

[BIGBOSSMAN]

Fuck it, we can all live together in perfect harmony - side by side on pianos.

Can ya feel the love?? :love:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZtiJN6yiik

[imdying]

Yup, leave the paint splattered fucker alone won't you'se all - he's the victim here!
Anyhow to set the record straight, the perps were definitely NOT niggers - they are people of african descent. They must have been polynesians, so the following derogatory words would apply; coons / coconuts / jungle bunnies or boongas.
Let's get our racist descriptions accurate here, eh?
As you were...
Here we go rsdb.org :yes:

[ajturbo]

is this bullshit still going on?

a pack of fuckwits shot at a biker from a car and some of you are giving the biker (Devil) shit!

nice work guys. :wacko:
but that's our job here....

he needs a good spanking...

to toughen him up, so that NEXT time.. he will pull out HIS paint gun... and use WHITE paint...... REAL white oil based stuff, that stings the eyes....

[westie]

Yup, leave the paint splattered fucker alone won't you'se all - he's the victim here!
Anyhow to set the record straight, the perps were definitely NOT niggers - they are people of african descent. They must have been polynesians, so the following derogatory words would apply; coons / coconuts / jungle bunnies or boongas.
Let's get our racist descriptions accurate here, eh?
As you were...

Ha ha ha ha ha:rofl:

If a bunch of dicks want to behave like well dicks then they deserve the hassles ow!

Lets call all cars and motorcycles- "vehicles" from now on or someone might get upset

[Big Dave]

Lets call all cars and motorcycles- "vehicles" from now on or someone might get upset

I refer to motorcycles as Vehicles professionally.
Takes a lot of the emotion out of reviewing them.

[MIZXR]

(swings hips gently from side to side,whispering sugar sugar, bats eyelids, holds up near-new grass skirt for MIZXR & hoping hes over 18) :love::dodge:

(undoes his fly, removes his pants, looks at the grass skirt .... and wonders again why he decided to drink a coffee while reading this post, what with washing day not till ..

Dam it was a good coffee too.

that post is no good without pictures .... or video.

Sorry It really was the best I could come up with straight - will go and remedy that problem

[MIZXR]

So white racist are worse than racist of another colour?

Tama Iti is not as bad simply because he is a Maori? Ever had your wife called a White Slut by a cunt like that simply because she was walking down a hallway when he came bundling out a door without looking?

What about the likes of the Hutu who killed millions of Tutsi - that was racially driven - but that's not as bad because they weren't white - or does that just mean there wasn't a racial motivation to you?

What about all the South Africans who have come to NZ simply because its Dangerous to be white in parts of SA?

Im so fucken sick of the "White Man" always been the bad fucker - There are millions of terrible, terrible people in the world and many, many of them are not white.

So in my view its the fucken middle aged white PC person making a warm fuzzy approach to being culturaly sensitive ignoring all the big issues.

Thats mighty white of you.:gob:

Agree know a few people who had to run to save the rest of their family when mugabi took over .... scum didn't even have the decency to return the bodies.

[Irontusk]

As to the racist stuff, in my opinion the worst of the worst are middle age white supreamest males, they dont give a fuck about anyother person than themselves.

So, all white men are secretly the worst people ever?

I just caught up on a whole lot of pages, there's heaps to reply to but there's too much really.

[Murray]

So, all white men are secretly the worst people ever?

I just caught up on a whole lot of pages, there's heaps to reply to but there's too much really.

Doesn't really matter, it just keeps going round and round and round and round and round on the same old thing. Feel free to join at anytime.

theres the ocasional good (funny) comment that comes up.

But basically we can't all be Mr White, sorry meant Mr Right all of the time and 2 whites don't make a wong.

[portokiwi]

:Oops: Just remember .... Not all us darkies are bad. There are some of us that smile and say hi before we stab you.;)

[325rocket]

:Oops: Just remember .... Not all us darkies are bad. There are some of us that smile and say hi before we stab you.;)

and some of us whities smile before we steal your land

[Murray]

And the Chinese will end up ruling us all

[portokiwi]

:eek5: Dont knock it ..... It might just happen. China is pooring money into so many different country"s. What for???? We are going to find out soon enough.
Look at the pacific islands. How many of them are getting a china hand out....
look in your cities... Over in the EU China is putting a huge influance in the ecconomy and the community.
Time to start learning the langauge.

[fire eyes]

(undoes his fly, removes his pants, looks at the grass skirt .... and wonders again why he decided to drink a coffee while reading this post, what with washing day not till ..

Dam it was a good coffee too.

that post is no good without pictures .... or video.

Sorry It really was the best I could come up with straight - will go and remedy that problem

Ohhh myyyy :bleh:

[portokiwi]

Yes fireeyes Where are the photos:2thumbsup

[fire eyes]

Yes fireeyes Where are the photos:2thumbsup

hahahahaha smartarse .. don't be lazy .. use your imagination!!!!! :spanking:

[portokiwi]

:drool:I was:clap::clap:

[fire eyes]

:drool:I was:clap::clap:

:bleh:

+ 10 characters

[Toaster]

Surely you must know better BY THE TIME YOU'RE FUCKING 30.

Unfortunately for so many, intelligence and wisdom does not increase with age.

[cs363]

:bleh:

+ 10 characters


Nice tongue action....

[portokiwi]

:devil2::innocent: fireeyes:innocent::devil2:

[mud boy]

Nice tongue action....

:eek5:
lmao

[fire eyes]

I think now is the best time for me to slip away quietly ........... :eek5: (trips over own foot on way out .. not exactly oscar nomination but close to it)

[cs363]

I think now is the best time to slip away quietly ........... :eek5:

Too late - we've followed your instructions and are using our collective imaginations now.... :wacko:

[portokiwi]

:hug::done::hug:

[WolveNZ]

No shit you normally ate each other and lots of the tribes had issues with their neighbors.


that's tribalism and that is different..... :bash: oh no it's not just different form .

fact is they shot him with paintball gun end of story. white, black , brown, yellow don't matter, remark called for? everybody has said something along those lines at some stage :whocares: .... don't make them racist .. get back onto topic.

[Swoop]

In this case its just a bunch of normal blokes trying to look like Dangerous Bastards.
At least they are not trying to be Katmen...

[mud boy]

At least they are not trying to be Katmen...

ahahaha yeah that funny!

[Brett]

What is racism these days.....??!!! they" can call us whites ... but ya cant call "them" blacks..

maori fishing quota far exceeds "whites"quota.

lower grades in uni are acceptable for "ethnic" people and will pass.

a school i know of, recieves 27 mill a year in government funding every year, only maori students allowed!!

ps could someone explain to me, why the prisons are 50 % maori and polynesians,
yet the nz population is only made up of 20 % maori and polynesian
Racist...??! no just statistics....

and has anyone bothered to watch crime watch in the past six months.. it seems they" (the police") are looking for a male maori or polynesian at every episode...and not just one either

funny enough... im not a racist i dont care if they are black white or yellow, scum is scum to me...it just seems that they are mainly maori and polys...

go... on give me red rep ya tree hugging fuckers:laugh:


Bling for you mon ami.

[James Deuce]

Well, it's 2013. I wonder if the cops did anything about it?

[Devil]

Ban him! :Pokey:

[Big Dave]

Tsk. BURN him.

[Devil]

Tsk. BURN him.

But only gently.

FWIW: Called the police just a moment ago because they never got back to me. Have been told I will be contacted by someone.
Probably to give them enough time for the case to go 'missing'.

[Tigadee]

Were they tuff lookin'?
I'm sure tear gas comes in handy sometimes...

Are flash bangs available to civvies?

[mashman]

White fuckers should be shot for being so over-sensitive.

[HenryDorsetCase]

ten characters

[HenryDorsetCase]

ten other characters

[Zedder]

White fuckers should be shot for being so over-sensitive.

I didn't see that anywhere in the NOW manifesto...

[Banditbandit]

Oh, it's there alright ... (quick emoticon to show humour and irony ... )

[Big Dave]

11 <tenchars> </tenchars>

[mashman]

I didn't see that anywhere in the NOW manifesto...

To give context, White is a nounjective :niceone:

[Zedder]

To give context, White is a nounjective :niceone:

Akzlely you may be right. However, I take offense at your use of the capital W in White.

You will be hearing from the Race Relations Commissioner.

[mashman]

Akzlely you may be right. However, I take offense at your use of the capital W in White.

You will be hearing from the Race Relations Commissioner.

:laugh: I apologise for my insensitivity. Shall we just call them Them then?

Got a leaky fork seal so won't be able to race. But thanks.

[Zedder]

:laugh: I apologise for my insensitivity. Shall we just call them Them then?

Got a leaky fork seal so won't be able to race. But thanks.

The old leaking fork seal excuse eh?

Given the propensity for confusion with the "Them" nomenclature, we must come up with a more viable option.

[mashman]

The old leaking fork seal excuse eh?

Given the propensity for confusion with the "Them" nomenclature, we must come up with a more viable option.

:innocent:

I kinda like referring to Them as White. They believe that their way is better, because Whitey has single handedly brought the world into a state that Whitey classes as civilised. Such beings do not have blood in their veins. Hence their colour.

[Zedder]

:innocent:

I kinda like referring to Them as White. They believe that their way is better, because Whitey has single handedly brought the world into a state that Whitey classes as civilised. Such beings do not have blood in their veins. Hence their colour.

An interesting statement regarding the lack of blood and the colour of those you call Whitey.

However, not only has that premise failed under the most common of dermatological incisions but it is also paleologically, anthropologically and a whole other shitload of logicallies incorrect.

What is civilised?

[oldrider]

What is civilised? It is simply the social behaviour proffered by the dominant culture of the time!

[Zedder]

It is simply the social behaviour proffered by the dominant culture of the time!

No, "An advanced state of human society" is the basics.

[mashman]

An interesting statement regarding the lack of blood and the colour of those you call Whitey.

However, not only has that premise failed under the most common of dermatological incisions but it is also paleologically, anthropologically and a whole other shitload of logicallies incorrect.

What is civilised?

Prahlad Jani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prahlad_Jani). Aliems.

Civilised. Fucked if I know. But given the definition of the word "bring (a place or people) to a stage of social development considered to be more advanced.", we're supposed to be. I think we're going in the wrong direction. Men eh, they never stop to ask for directions.

[mashman]

It is simply the social behaviour proffered by the dominant culture of the time!

You mean those who make the rules. What a horrible culture.

[Big Dave]

What is civilised?

An iTunes gift card.

[HenryDorsetCase]

An iTunes gift card.

One disagrees. After the earthquakes (sorry to keep banging on - it was three years ago) civilisation was distilled very sharply for us. Civilisation is: drinkable running water, a flushing toilet, and electricity. Everything else is pretty much optional.

[Wayz]

If the person that started this thread used the title (Fucken Wankers) instead of fucken Da...
There would be no problem.......in other news...:weird:

[Zedder]

If the person that started this thread used the title (Fucken Wankers) instead of fucken Da...
There would be no problem.......in other news...:weird:

Nah, the thread title usually has no bearing on what eventually gets written about.

[avgas]

One disagrees. After the earthquakes (sorry to keep banging on - it was three years ago) civilisation was distilled very sharply for us. Civilisation is: drinkable running water, a flushing toilet, and electricity. Everything else is pretty much optional.
What you complaining about?
You had a runny toilet, flashing electricity and water :lol:

[Banditbandit]

No, "An advanced state of human society" is the basics.

What is "advanced"? and who decides that?

[Zedder]

What is "advanced"? and who decides that?

The dictionary people.

[Banditbandit]

That's not like you to revert to the dictionary ...

But it is a serious question .. who decides what "advanced" is ? It's a much-contested position - and there is likely to be wide spread disagreement on what it means.

[James Deuce]

Nah. Any society with Hipsters and Beneficiaries is advanced. Flipsides of the same coin.

[Banditbandit]

Nah. Any society with Hipsters and Beneficiaries is advanced. Flipsides of the same coin.

I would disagree - the presence of beneficiaries indicates that the society is NOT advanced at all ... (except for the pensioners - those beneficiaries are justifable).

[imdying]

I can think of a pretty cheap solution to that problem...

[Banditbandit]

I can think of a pretty cheap solution to that problem...

:killingme :clap: :rofl: :laugh:

We can all think of that one - but that doesn't indicate an advanced society. Quite the opposite ...

Anyway - that's not cheap - soldiers and police come expensive ...

[mashman]

I would disagree - the presence of beneficiaries indicates that the society is NOT advanced at all ... (except for the pensioners - those beneficiaries are justifable).

I would disagree - the presence of beneficiaries indicates that the society is advanced, as technology has replaced human beings... along with not killing those who are seen as surplus to requirements.

However we can do much much better, so much so that you'd look back on how we currently live and piss yourself with laughter that some thought we were civilised.

[Banditbandit]

I would disagree - the presence of beneficiaries indicates that the society is advanced, as technology has replaced human beings... along with not killing those who are seen as surplus to requirements.

Yes - I agree with that bit ... I do not agree that an advanced society would create a group of essentially parasites ... beneficiaries (except for pensioners and DPBs) are parasites ... there is a need for that class in our current society - created by the capitalist society we live in - which is not advanced because we pay people to do nothing ...



However we can do much much better, so much so that you'd look back on how we currently live and piss yourself with laughter that some thought we were civilised.

Yes ...

[avgas]

I would disagree - the presence of beneficiaries indicates that the society is advanced, as technology has replaced human beings... along with not killing those who are seen as surplus to requirements.

However we can do much much better, so much so that you'd look back on how we currently live and piss yourself with laughter that some thought we were civilised.
Bring on the automated soilent green factory then?

[mashman]

Yes - I agree with that bit ... I do not agree that an advanced society would create a group of essentially parasites ... beneficiaries (except for pensioners and DPBs) are parasites ... there is a need for that class in our current society - created by the capitalist society we live in - which is not advanced because we pay people to do nothing ...

As you say, there is a need for that class in society within a financial system too. Inflation la di da. Being advanced is accepting that that is the case and instead of deriding potentially useless fuckwits/beneficiaries, (and catching a few innocents along the way), why not accept that they need to be providing for, because "we", the economy, have not provided one for them... after all, they are where they are by design (the financial system requires people to be unemployed).


Bring on the automated soilent green factory then?

Wonder what that stuff tasted like (was supposed to taste like)? I'm going for chicken and broccoli.

[Zedder]

As you say, there is a need for that class in society within a financial system too. Inflation la di da. Being advanced is accepting that that is the case and instead of deriding potentially useless fuckwits/beneficiaries, (and catching a few innocents along the way), why not accept that they need to be providing for, because "we", the economy, have not provided one for them... after all, they are where they are by design (the financial system requires people to be unemployed)


Interestingly enough, Asian countries including China are looking to the Nordic model for guidance. The system includes not only welfare, which is in need of more stringent means testing according to some observers, but it also incorporates market mechanisms to make it work more efficiently.

[mashman]

Interestingly enough, Asian countries including China are looking to the Nordic model for guidance. The system includes not only welfare, which is in need of more stringent means testing according to some observers, but it also incorporates market mechanisms to make it work more efficiently.

Sounds good on paper. I guess it'll depend on how serious they are in terms of "reform".

[Zedder]

Sounds good on paper. I guess it'll depend on how serious they are in terms of "reform".

The mere fact they are doing it speaks volumes mashamundo.

[mashman]

The mere fact they are doing it speaks volumes mashamundo.

Is that gonna be in the same vein as the US wanting to move to a more ACC based model? Hope it works for them.

[Zedder]

Is that gonna be in the same vein as the US wanting to move to a more ACC based model? Hope it works for them.

From what I understand, it's going to be a bit like the NOW system but more of a CHOW system.

[mashman]

From what I understand, it's going to be a bit like the NOW system but more of a CHOW system.

Ahhhhhh the NHS. Before politics took over.

[Ocean1]

We are not amused.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/arts/9476005/Comics-amazing-bit-on-reverse-racism

[Zedder]

We are not amused.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/arts/9476005/Comics-amazing-bit-on-reverse-racism

The word reverse shouldn't even be there.

[Ocean1]

The word reverse shouldn't even be there.

Until I read that I'd have said there wasn't any such thing as reverse racism.

But I think that unsavoury wee oik may actually be the first valid example I've come across.

[Tazz]

That's not like you to revert to the dictionary ...

But it is a serious question .. who decides what "advanced" is ? It's a much-contested position - and there is likely to be wide spread disagreement on what it means.

If you like reading, the start of 'Guns, Germs and Steel' by Jared Diamond covered this a little, although maybe more from the 'intelligence' angle.
The guts that I took from it in relation to this is that 'advanced' is basically a society of people who have lost all their survival skills and rely on technologies that they have no idea how to replicate/reproduce, and are pretty screwed without them :lol:

Probably a bit of a tangent from the answer you're looking for, but to ponder (and the book is awesome if that sort of stuff holds your interest).

[Ocean1]

If you like reading, the start of 'Guns, Germs and Steel' by Jared Diamond covered this a little, although maybe more from the 'intelligence' angle.
The guts that I took from it in relation to this is that 'advanced' is basically a society of people who have lost all their survival skills and rely on technologies that they have no idea how to replicate/reproduce, and are pretty screwed without them :lol:

Probably a bit of a tangent from the answer you're looking for, but to ponder (and the book is awesome if that sort of stuff holds your interest).

Not sure I read that definition in the book, it's an adequate description of a cargo cult, though.

Specialisation is definitely a marker of advanced technical capability, and therefore higher standard of living, sure. But a society that has lost significant elements of it's specialisation's capabilities is at the mercy of those that retain them. Most of the western world, for example.

Excellent book btw, should be compulsory reading in school.


Maybe it is...

[Banditbandit]

If you like reading, the start of 'Guns, Germs and Steel' by Jared Diamond covered this a little, although maybe more from the 'intelligence' angle.
The guts that I took from it in relation to this is that 'advanced' is basically a society of people who have lost all their survival skills and rely on technologies that they have no idea how to replicate/reproduce, and are pretty screwed without them :lol:

Probably a bit of a tangent from the answer you're looking for, but to ponder (and the book is awesome if that sort of stuff holds your interest).

A well-used copy of Diamond's book sits less than six feet from my chair as I write this ...

I think the definition is probably valid ... (tho' like Ocean1 I'm not sure it's exactly what Diamond says - but it can be extrapolated from hsi book) ... I like the idea that it does not carry an inherent concept that "advanced" is a good thing ... in fact it places it in rather a negative light - without advanced civilization many many people today would be screwed ... because they have no survival skills

[Tazz]

Excellent book btw, should be compulsory reading in school.


Maybe it is...

Possibly wouldn't have been my cup of tea at the time, but I wish I was made to chew through it at school.
That and Michael King's History of NZ.

[Tazz]

A well-used copy of Diamond's book sits less than six feet from my chair as I write this ...

I think the definition is probably valid ... (tho' like Ocean1 I'm not sure it's exactly what Diamond says - but it can be extrapolated from hsi book) ... I like the idea that it does not carry an inherent concept that "advanced" is a good thing ... in fact it places it in rather a negative light - without advanced civilization many many people today would be screwed ... because they have no survival skills

Same, because I haven't actually finished it yet :lol: :o

Yup, myself included sadly.

Not the most polished movie but yourself and Ocean would probably enjoying watching Idiocracy.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

[Devil]

UPDATE: Ok, so heard back from the police-peoples.

The file was passed to South Auckland Police to follow up and visit the registered address of the car involved. Unfortunately they were unable to identify even the driver or the people in the car, but they were delivered a bit of a warning. Dead end.

No comment.

[Banditbandit]

So are all the bruises from the nasty paint ball gun gone too???

[Devil]

There'd be a problem if they hadn't after 5 years.

[Tazz]

There'd be a problem if they hadn't after 5 years.

:lol:

http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-kY9S0A0KJkQ/TY0pqUgWCGI/AAAAAAAAA_M/hyT-Z9YJDhw/s1600/ht_philadelphia_051209_ssh.jpg

[HenryDorsetCase]

Tom Hanks sure is looking rough. Probably depressed because CAPTAIN PHILIPS sucked major arse