Fucking darkies

[Devil]

Got shot in the back with a paintball gun this afternoon on the way home from work.
Waiting at lights to turn right from Onewa rd into Birkenhead ave, car pulled up behind, then pulled out to go straight ahead. *THWAP* shot in the backpack as they came past about 1m from me. Took off after the bastards who had to stop at the next lights and did the expected "what the french toast was that?!". Three poly's, in their 30's all acting the man. Back seat passenger started to open the door as though going to get out so just walked the bike backwards, got their plate, did a U turn a parked up 50m down the road and *555'd them. Followed it up with a formal complaint at the cop shop immediately afterwards.

Godamn bottom feeders.

[98tls]

Got shot in the back with a paintball gun this afternoon on the way home from work.
Waiting at lights to turn right from Onewa rd into Birkenhead ave, car pulled up behind, then pulled out to go straight ahead. *THWAP* shot in the backpack as they came past about 1m from me. Took off after the bastards who had to stop at the next lights and did the expected "what the french toast was that?!". Three poly's, in their 30's all acting the man. Back seat passenger started to open the door as though going to get out so just walked the bike backwards, got their plate, did a U turn a parked up 50m down the road and *555'd them. Followed it up with a formal complaint at the cop shop immediately afterwards.

Godamn bottom feeders. :wari:Good work,fuckers.Will give you a greenie cause no doubt all the pc treehuggers will red ya and for being a supposed racist when in fact all your doing is calling a spade a spade..so to speak.

[Blackshear]

Were they tuff lookin'?
I'm sure tear gas comes in handy sometimes...

[CHOPPA]

Should kicked a mirror off, that would have been funny!

[Gubb]

Dude, I think I saw you, I was sitting at the light's on my Hyo.

Not cool.

Surely you must know better BY THE TIME YOU'RE FUCKING 30.

[Fatjim]

You'd think by thirty they would have grown up. Sounds like something a teenager would do. :whistle:

[Devil]

Should kicked a mirror off, that would have been funny!

Wouldn't have really helped my complaint with the cops though!

Nevermind that they were built like brick shithouses.

[98tls]

Wouldn't have really helped my complaint with the cops though!

Nevermind that they were built like brick shithouses. Sadly getting there rego probably wont help either as the car was probably stolen.:beer:

[Blackshear]

Wouldn't have really helped my complaint with the cops though!

Nevermind that they were built like brick shithouses.
Just because a SELECT FEW brick shithouses do something bad, doesn't make ALL of them bad.

Wait...
:doh:

[barty5]

So whats the rego i can motor check for address then we could all go round and have our own fun with some paint ball guns throw in a few eggs for good measure they do a real good job on paith if left to long.

[piston broke]

farkem,
black,red,yellow or white!!!
boot their door ar whatever is closest.take out that mirror.
then get the fuk outa there.
this only applies if they aint seen yo #plate.
don't want no comebacks.
tis sad that this sorta thing is happening

[Coyote]

I walked up to my bike parked on the road during lunchtime to frind it had been pelted in yellow paintballs. Luckily you could see the damage past all the stone chips from the lack of a front mudguard but it still pissed me off that some idiots would do that.

I've noticed a local sports shop is selling cheap ready to go paintball guns. It's not just enthusiasts that have them now. Unless it was fucking Sparky_Bills, bet he fucking did it the fucker :p

[Trumpess]

OMG! So its not just happening on the road, its happening parked up along side the road aswell? Thats just too low!
What a bunch of wankers!

[Wingnut]

farkem,
black,red,yellow or white!!!
boot their door ar whatever is closest.take out that mirror.
then get the fuk outa there.
this only applies if they aint seen yo #plate.
don't want no comebacks.
tis sad that this sorta thing is happening

I guess one of those flip up rego plates that I saw somewhere on this forum would be handy at a time like this!!!!

[Irontusk]

You'd think by thirty they would have grown up. Sounds like something a teenager would do. :whistle:

With the brain of a 5 year old they shouldn't be allowed the car to drive around in to start with!

Since this thread already has a bit of a tone to it (thread title, and the idea of the car being stolen) who reckons our tax dollars paid for the car, paintball gun, and the kfc they had for lunch?

[98tls]

With the brain of a 5 year old they shouldn't be allowed the car to drive around in to start with!

Since this thread already has a bit of a tone to it (thread title, and the idea of the car being stolen) who reckons our tax dollars paid for the car, paintball gun, and the kfc they had for lunch?
:2guns:dont be a fucking racist.:laugh:

[geoffm]

Should have dialed 111 - that would have got their attention as the AOS turn up with machine guns...
I am sure there are some Arms Act charges that could be laid here.

[Mokoro]

edited as i had second thoughts. someone would view my post as racist. Despite being pretty accurate. lol.

[HungusMaximist]

Funny how logic works, people tend to get away easier from doing shit deliberately to other people and really, the law doesn't help either, it tells you not to fight back or it's gonna fuck you up in the ass.

For example, a car fucken rams you off the road, then jets off ASAP without you able to give chase. Shitty incidents like this happen all time and you're left to deal with everything.

I wonder, how much you can take it before you fucken explode?

[SixPackBack]

Disappointed Devil, was not aware you sported racist tendencies.

[Dakara]

Have heard of people having arms charges laid against them for shooting those plastic pellet replica guns from cars so don't see why a paintball gun should be any differen't...

Interested to hear the outcome....

[ital916]

What exactly is the law on if someone does something to you, does anyone here know the limitation on self defence i.e. where it stops being self defense and becomes having a good time?

If someone knowingly pics trouble they should expect it back.

[ital916]

Disappointed Devil, was not aware you sported racist tendencies.

the best way to combat racism is to nullify it's importance, treat like a joke. It's when everyone goes pc and gets a broom handle up there arse about it,thats annoying.

heck I'm sure everyones shouted something racist in ther lifem doesn't make them a white supremicist or a ms-18 gang member.

[Dakara]

What exactly is the law on if someone does something to you, does anyone here know the limitation on self defence i.e. where it stops being self defense and becomes having a good time?

If someone knowingly pics trouble they should expect it back.

Well from first hand experience, "Self defence" can still get you arrested so it's best to just take the beating and hope you don't get too fucked up :crazy: And I'm not joking.

[outlawtorn]

Sorry to hear about that, these dumb fuckers need to have a lesson taught to them, face the little shits on their own and they are big pussies!!!!!

[Swoop]

I am sure there are some Arms Act charges that could be laid here.
There most certainly is a wide selection to choose from.
Public place and all that.

[outlawtorn]

Disappointed Devil, was not aware you sported racist tendencies.
what was racist about his statement?

[Teezer]

Man, that sucks. Not bike-related, but some idiot retards got me with an egg about a month back. Haha funny in itself, but they chucked it at about 80kph, and the bruise was huge. It was from behind - if I'd been an old boy it could have done some serious damage. Chopping their nuts off is too good for 'em. :angry2:

Last week I spent a Sat night in a 111 call centre listening to calls. Speaking to the lady there, she said that if you bell the plod on 111 saying you've been shot - regardless of what with - they will put it at priority 1 and nail the fuckers with Armed Response.

That's what I'll do esp if I get their plate......

Let us know if the police track them hopefully they may 'resist arrest' :bash:

[Kiwi Graham]

Phone the cops 111 and state some KFC fueled 30 somethings had fired a weapon at you and only your back pack saved you from injury. They wouldn't look so big and scary climbing out of there stolen Nissan Skyline at the request of the armed offenders squad at gun point then would they? :shit:

[SixPackBack]

the best way to combat racism is to nullify it's importance, treat like a joke. It's when everyone goes pc and gets a broom handle up there arse about it,thats annoying.

heck I'm sure everyones shouted something racist in ther lifem doesn't make them a white supremicist or a ms-18 gang member.

Racism is no fucken joke bro'......I dare say if you had ever been on the receiving end your attitude would be very different..........

[98tls]

Disappointed Devil, was not aware you sported racist tendencies. Out of interest would you have been disappointed if he titled this thread "Fucking honkies".All your actually doing is promoting racism with your disappointment though i dont expect you to understand that.

[Fatjim]

Racism is no fucken joke bro'......I dare say if you had ever been on the receiving end your attitude would be very different..........

Actually, I think he was. Doh!

[SixPackBack]

*predictable response*............................you can keep the wailing banjos......:no:

[Devil]

I pretty much call anyone living in NZ a Kiwi, regardless of the colour of their skin. Unless you do dumb shit like this. Then I'll call you whatever I feel like at the time because you're not worth treating with any respect, because you sure dont respect me.

[Devil]

Have heard of people having arms charges laid against them for shooting those plastic pellet replica guns from cars so don't see why a paintball gun should be any differen't...

Interested to hear the outcome....

Speaking to the cop who took my statement, he was going to have to clarify that himself. We talked about it, but he wasn't sure where paintball guns came into it, but said it was entirely possible that it could come under discharging a firearm in a public place.

[98tls]

Racism is no fucken joke bro'......I dare say if you had ever been on the receiving end your attitude would be very different.......... That would make the best Tui ad yet.Funnily enough being white i am on the receiving end from the minute i get up at 5am in the morning and only now and then whinge about it unlike some and by the way to reach the summit of whingedom you only have another 3 hours."predictable"....go figure.

[awayatc]

The way I understand it is that if You use anything as a fire arm, you will be charged as if it were a fire arm.....


I would be fuming if it would have happened to me....
probably would have over reacted

You kept a cool head and reacted wisely.....
Well done...

[EJT]

Out of interest would you have been disappointed if he titled this thread "Fucking honkies".All your actually doing is promoting racism with your disappointment though i dont expect you to understand that.

And pigs might fly. How many threads have we seen where someone was cut off by a Beemer or 4 wheel drive but race never comes into it. It is usually "some prick" or "some arsehole".

Anyone brave enough to title a thread "fucken honkies" after a cage incident will have some bling. In fact, I had some honkey sit in the fast lane of the motorway at 90 in a rep car today, refuse to move over, then keep tapping their brakes so I was forced to pass on the inside...now if only I was brave enough.

[Dakara]

Speaking to the cop who took my statement, he was going to have to clarify that himself. We talked about it, but he wasn't sure where paintball guns came into it, but said it was entirely possible that it could come under discharging a firearm in a public place.

Yea the term "Firearm" would probably be hard to stick them with, but from my understanding there's a subpart in the firearm section on the law covering other "Projectile Weapons" covering things like Airrifles, crossbows etc and I would assume that would cover paintball guns...

[outlawtorn]

I pretty much call anyone living in NZ a Kiwi, regardless of the colour of their skin. Unless you do dumb shit like this. Then I'll call you whatever I feel like at the time because you're not worth treating with any respect, because you sure dont respect me.

Well said!

[Fatjim]

Good point EJT.

this fucking white bastard tried to take me out today. Because he was a skinny white bastard and not some brick shithouse black bastard he almost shat his pants when I got off my bike and stood up.

[MadDuck]

Because he was a skinny white bastard .....

Didnt know WhiteTrash had headed back down that way

[98tls]

Good point EJT.

this fucking white bastard tried to take me out today. Because he was a skinny white bastard and not some brick shithouse black bastard he almost shat his pants when I got off my bike and stood up. Would bling that but cant find bling of a colour that wont offend someone in the world.:mad:

[awayatc]

That would make the best Tui ad yet.Funnily enough being white i am on the receiving end from the minute i get up at 5am in the morning and only now and then whinge about it unlike some and by the way to reach the summit of whingedom you only have another 3 hours.

Racism goes more then 1 way indeed......and in many ways has reversed.

Lot of losers seem to wanna hide behind the colour excuse.....

No I am not a racist....
Nor am I blind or stupid or easily intimitated

:scooter:

[Fatjim]

Didnt know WhiteTrash had headed back down that way

I said skinny, not aneamic.

[piston broke]

until the colour of a mans skin is of no more signifcance,(sp)
than the colour of his eyes, there will be war.
R.N.Marley

[Devil]

until the colour of a mans skin is of no more signifcance,(sp)
than the colour of his eyes, there will be war.
R.N.Marley

Sepultura actually did a pretty cool version of that song, it's on the Rattamahatta single.

[Swoop]

We talked about it, but he wasn't sure where paintball guns came into it, but said it was entirely possible that it could come under discharging a firearm in a public place.
"Presenting a firearm"
"Discharging a firearm"


Yea the term "Firearm" would probably be hard to stick them with, but from my understanding there's a subpart in the firearm section on the law covering other "Projectile Weapons" covering things like Airrifles, crossbows etc and I would assume that would cover paintball guns...
It dosen't matter. If it looks like a firearm (working, non working, imitation, etc) or is presented in a manner as to give the impression that you have one.:crazy:
Teenagers like to play with "replica" guns so that they appear cool to their mates.
There have been some VERY shit scared kids who get pulled up by AOS and have to answer a few questions...

[98tls]

until the colour of a mans skin is of no more signifcance,(sp)
than the colour of his eyes, there will be war.
R.N.Marley I prefer to think when my early mornings and hard work go to me and the country i live ins benefit to be shared by all that share it with me some peace will be realized.

[Ms Piggy]

I don't quite get what their ethnicity has to do with the dumb-arse actions.

[Irontusk]

Racism is no fucken joke bro'......I dare say if you had ever been on the receiving end your attitude would be very different..........

I think you will find that just about every white guy has been picked on when outnumbered by the 'darkies'.

Yes paintball guns are counted as firearms, you can even get done for the firearm in a public place thing if you're waving a bright yellow piece of plastic around if it is shaped somewhat like a gun, functional or not. Good example is a mother on one of the police programs getting pulled over (pretty sure there was some amount of armed offenders squad in there too) because her very young son was playing with a toy gun in the backseat while she was driving around.

I wear back armour so I don't think I would've felt it :laugh: would still piss me off though, you know they wouldn't be happy if you even looked at them 'wrong'.

EDIT: Swoop beat me to it.

[cs363]

1a) Definition of a firearm The Arms Act 1983 defines a firearm as anything from which any shot,bullet,missile or other projectile can be discharged by force of explosive.It includes anything that can be adapted so that it can discharge any shot,bullet,missile or other projectile by force of explosive.It also includes anything that for the time being is not capable of discharging any shot,bullet,missile or other projectile by force of explosive,but which by it’s completion or repair would be capable of doing so.

So....not a firearm as such then, BUT....paintball guns are classed as airguns so logically it would appear that in this instance normal firearm laws would apply.
See here for more info: http://www.police.govt.nz/service/firearms/infosheet04.html

[retro asian]

And pigs might fly. How many threads have we seen where someone was cut off by a Beemer or 4 wheel drive but race never comes into it. It is usually "some prick" or "some arsehole"......

Hey! Leave Beemers out of this!!..... :oi-grr:

[Lias]

I don't quite get what their ethnicity has to do with the dumb-arse actions.

You can argue the causes till the cows come home, but it’s a fact that certain ethnicities are heavily overrepresented in violent crime statistics. Thus it’s reasonable to have correlation between ethnicity and dumb-arse actions.

[Dakara]

I think you will find that just about every white guy has been picked on when outnumbered by the 'darkies'.


And in regard to an earlier post I made... I was arrested for standing up for myself in said situation and advised if I didn't want to be arrested I should not have 'retaliated' :no:

[98tls]

You can argue the causes till the cows come home, but it’s a fact that certain ethnicities are heavily overrepresented in violent crime statistics. Thus it’s reasonable to have correlation between ethnicity and dumb-arse actions.
Thats being far to realistic:doh:

[Lias]

Thats being far to realistic:doh:

I know.. I await the protesting horde of unwashed hippies coming to express their displeasure at daring to be politically incorrect, realistic and logical. :girlfight:

[SixPackBack]

I think you will find that just about every white guy has been picked on when outnumbered by the 'darkies'.

Yes paintball guns are counted as firearms, you can even get done for the firearm in a public place thing if you're waving a bright yellow piece of plastic around if it is shaped somewhat like a gun, functional or not. Good example is a mother on one of the police programs getting pulled over (pretty sure there was some amount of armed offenders squad in there too) because her very young son was playing with a toy gun in the backseat while she was driving around.

I wear back armour so I don't think I would've felt it :laugh: would still piss me off though, you know they wouldn't be happy if you even looked at them 'wrong'.

EDIT: Swoop beat me to it.

Hmm............ as a white skinny pommy in the early 70's in the 'bash a pom a day' times the only people that did not have a go at me was the Polynesians!.......you see they were mostly fresh off the boat and suffering at the hands of the racists kiwi's as well................take out of that what you will!

[mv.senna]

Hey Devil,
sorry to hear you've had this crazy shit happen - i can't help wondering how many other road users/pedestrians etc these brain surgeons have been taking pot shots at... btw, fully understand/support your darkie comments - you call it as you see it, and I wdve done the same (n i'm a darkie!)

for those of you currently perching your self righteous over inflated selves on your tree-hugging pedestals, blahing on about racism/racist comments - how bout not ignoring the potential for serious injury these actions could have caused.....lets see: paint ball, blank range, velocity etc vs an eye = goodbye eye; OR...vs soft tissue (anyone who's seen/felt the pain of a paint ball at close range knows what i'm talking about)....the unexpected nature of the impact could easily have made a less experienced person lose their balance/line etc and caused a collision with another road user....all sorts of pain/chaos.

so lets shelve the diversionary tactics regarding racist comments, and focus on the real issue: some stupid fkers who were old enough to know better shot a guy riding a motorbike with a paintball, and thought it was funny...then got all aggro when approached...and probably woulda beat three kinds of shit outta the innocent party if he'd hung around any longer... WTF is the world coming to??

[avgas]

Ummm i have a few screws lying around - you know the address where said vehicle is parked?

[98tls]

I know.. I await the protesting horde of unwashed hippies coming to express their displeasure at daring to be politically incorrect, realistic and logical. :girlfight: Funny you say that,they love red as well,as i well know.:niceone:If that gets em fat so be it.

[Ms Piggy]

You can argue the causes till the cows come home, but it’s a fact that certain ethnicities are heavily overrepresented in violent crime statistics. Thus it’s reasonable to have correlation between ethnicity and dumb-arse actions.

Yup you can argue that for sure (unfortunately) but I still don't see how that justifies racist comments.

Btw - I use soap and eat meat. Very washed and very un-hippy...I'm into going against those useless stereotypes that some desperately want to squeeze people into.

[Hitcher]

Thats being far to realistic

And simplistic. It's nothing to do with ethnicity. It's all to do with deprivation. People who lack the necessary economic wherewithal will often resort to alternative measures to close the gap between themselves and the "haves". Buying a big fence, burglar alarm and a gun is not the answer. And taking cheap shots at the various ethic groups who are overrepresented in our crime statistics does nothing to solve the problem either. People have no choice as to who their parents are. It can't be much fun being a member of an underprivileged minority that is often the butt of redneck jokes.

[Oscar]

I seemed to have stumbled into Boof Head Central here.

I'm also caught by the Internet Red Neck Effect:


If it's a piss take, I'll look like a cahnt for arguing.
If you guys are serious, you are too stupid to argue with.


For the sake of this country, I just hope you guys are a bad joke (and on "Do a kindness for a stranger" day too).

[98tls]

And simplistic. It's nothing to do with ethnicity. It's all to do with deprivation. People who lack the necessary economic wherewithal will often resort to alternative measures to close the gap between themselves and the "haves". Buying a big fence, burglar alarm and a gun is not the answer. And taking cheap shots at the various ethic groups who are overrepresented in our crime statistics does nothing to solve the problem either. People have no choice as to who their parents are. It can't be much fun being a member of an underprivileged minority that is often the butt of redneck jokes. Whilst i hear what your saying i still say bullshit.Fuck me its 2008 isnt it about time the parent excuse was worn out,for my money (that i worked for) it never was an excuse.The only big fence round my property is out back,my front door however is open to anyone regardless of shade thats worth me opening it for.

[Lias]

And simplistic. It's nothing to do with ethnicity. It's all to do with deprivation. People who lack the necessary economic wherewithal will often resort to alternative measures to close the gap between themselves and the "haves".

I know plenty of maori who grew up with absolutely fuckall, and are now educated successfull people, so you'll have to forgive me if I think being born a certain ethnicity and poor is not a justification for theft and violence.

[terbang]

:wari:Good work,fuckers.Will give you a greenie cause no doubt all the pc treehuggers will red ya and for being a supposed racist when in fact all your doing is calling a spade a spade..so to speak.
Same old knuckle draggers trolling for a response so that they can (once again) argue their red neck agendas.

[Hitcher]

I know plenty of maori who grew up with absolutely fuckall, and are now educated successfull people, so you'll have to forgive me if I think being born a certain ethnicity and poor is not a justification for theft and violence.

You'll have to forgive me if I don't think that people of some ethnicities are somehow superior to others and that the inferior should be quietly rounded up and herded off to state-sanctioned death camps.

[98tls]

Same old knuckle draggers trolling for a response so that they can (once again) argue their red neck agendas. So very aptly put.

[outlawtorn]

Hmm............ as a white skinny pommy in the early 70's in the 'bash a pom a day' times the only people that did not have a go at me was the Polynesians!.......you see they were mostly fresh off the boat and suffering at the hands of the racists kiwi's as well................take out of that what you will!
Every country and mostly everyone is guilty of racism in some form or another at some point in their lives, it boils down to how sensitive and limp wristed you are and how easily you get offended. When I was younger (8 years old) I was beaten up at school, in England, for being a racist South African, funny thing was I was born in England and only lived in South Africa for 2.5 years at that stage....at that age we were also taught how bad the Germans were for starting the wars.....fucking racist brits......fucking racist everyone....lol

[Lias]

Yup you can argue that for sure (unfortunately) but I still don't see how that justifies racist comments.


I don't know if it justifies them, but IMHO it explains them. That correlation exists, people are more likely to experience violent crime at the hands of certain groups, and somewhat naturally become hostile to those groups and lashes out at them be it verball, physically, or in other subtler ways.



Btw - I use soap and eat meat. Very washed and very un-hippy...I'm into going against those useless stereotypes that some desperately want to squeeze people into.


Then i'm afraid you need to change your political views.. Can't be having people taint the stereotype n all.. Sorry lass :whistle:

[Oscar]

Hmm............ as a white skinny pommy in the early 70's in the 'bash a pom a day' times the only people that did not have a go at me was the Polynesians!.......you see they were mostly fresh off the boat and suffering at the hands of the racists kiwi's as well................take out of that what you will!

I'm with you there - as a third former (and pom) I got the bash from all the farmboys. My Maori friends couldn't work it out, they laughed and called me a Pommy Bastard, but stood up for me...


The irony is that one of the wankers that came up with that shit (Phil Gifford) is now on TV fronting a domestic violence campaign. Wanker.

[Lias]

You'll have to forgive me if I don't think that people of some ethnicities are somehow superior to others and that the inferior should be quietly rounded up and herded off to state-sanctioned death camps.

My that comes close to breaking godwins law!

I think that the leap between acknowleding that for better or worse certain ethnicities are more likely to commit crime, and wanting to exterminate an entire ethnicity is rather a large one.

[Ms Piggy]

I don't know if it justifies them, but IMHO it explains them. That correlation exists, people are more likely to experience violent crime at the hands of certain groups, and somewhat naturally become hostile to those groups and lashes out at them be it verball, physically, or in other subtler ways. Nope, I don't believe it explains them either. I reckon what it does explain is people's obsession with labelling everything, putting things into boxes and trying to make out life is black and white when it's all pretty grey where I'm sitting.


Then i'm afraid you need to change your political views.. Can't be having people taint the stereotype n all.. Sorry lass :whistle:
I know, it totally messes with everyone's tidy views of what people should think...mwah hah hah. :devil2:

[Hitcher]

I think that the leap between acknowleding that for better or worse certain ethnicities are more likely to commit crime, and wanting to exterminate an entire ethnicity is rather a large one.

You were the one rolling out the simplistic stereotypes, sunshine.

[Lias]

Nope, I don't believe it explains them either. I reckon what it does explain is people's obsession with labelling everything, putting things into boxes and trying to make out life is black and white when it's all pretty grey where I'm sitting.


Thats a whole diffrent argument right their.. Some people see in shades of grey and others see in black and white.. My guess is its literally different wiring in the brain.

[Ocean1]

Define prejudice.

Define racism.

Anyone?

[Oscar]

My that comes close to breaking godwins law!

I think that the leap between acknowleding that for better or worse certain ethnicities are more likely to commit crime, and wanting to exterminate an entire ethnicity is rather a large one.

Bullshit.
Certain social groups commit crime, sure - but is ethnicity the cause?

Where homogeneous communities exist, they separate along economic lines and the poor/less educated get the blame.
Class or caste system replaces skin colour - study pre-industrial Japan, India or pre-immigrant England.

[yod]

for better or worse certain ethnicities are more likely to commit crime, and wanting to exterminate an entire ethnicity is rather a large one.

hmmm....i wonder if its got anything to do with the fact that they've been consistently fucked over by the (generally) white majority for hundreds of years.....

[outlawtorn]

Define prejudice.

Define racism.

Anyone?

Prejudice:
1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.

Racism:
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

[Lias]

You were the one rolling out the simplistic stereotypes, sunshine.

The only stereotype I remember rolling out was about unwashed hippies.. and that was at least half tounge in cheek.

[Ms Piggy]

Thats a whole diffrent argument right their.. Some people see in shades of grey and others see in black and white.. My guess is its literally different wiring in the brain.

I don't think it's different brain wiring. I think it's a case of if people are willing to do their homework and find out why the stats you mentioned earlier are so, rather than believe the stereotypes and labels regarding any group in society.

In my view racism and/or prejudice generally comes from misinformation and believing 1 size fits all - such as the rhetoric around in the 80's that 'all men are rapists' and the rhetoric that states 'all feminists are men haters' etc, etc, etc.

[Lias]

Bullshit.
Certain social groups commit crime, sure - but is ethnicity the cause?

Where homogeneous communities exist, they separate along economic lines and the poor/less educated get the blame.
Class or caste system replaces skin colour - study pre-industrial Japan, India or pre-immigrant England.

Cause and correlation are unrelated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

A correlation between ethnicity and crimerates can exist without ethnicity being the cause of the correlation. I hope that makes sense.

[Hitcher]

Some people see in shades of grey and others see in black and white.. My guess is its literally different wiring in the brain.

It's called intelligence.

[98tls]

hmmm....i wonder if its got anything to do with the fact that they've been consistently fucked over by the (generally) white majority for hundreds of years..... Probably if thats the way you view it but as there so fucked off condones there actions then havent the (generally) white...no idea of the figures..got a right to be fucked off about being fucked over as well when there generation had nothing to do with it.

[Lias]

I don't think it's different brain wiring. I think it's a case of if people are willing to do their homework and find out why the stats you mentioned earlier are so, rather than believe the stereotypes and labels regarding any group in society.

In my view racism and/or prejudice generally comes from misinformation and believing 1 size fits all - such as the rhetoric around in the 80's that 'all men are rapists' and the rhetoric that states 'all feminists are men haters' etc, etc, etc.

The black and white vs grey thing doesnt just apply to race, politics, prejudice or anything else. Some people just see the world in different ways. Some see the big picture, others dont, some see black and white, some see a few shades of grey, others see a million shades of grey. Just like some people are visual learners, others kinesthetic learners, etc etc.

[Oscar]

Cause and correlation are unrelated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

A correlation between ethnicity and crimerates can exist without ethnicity being the cause of the correlation. I hope that makes sense.

Very good.
The problem is I didn't say that that the particular group caused it, I said that they got the blame for it.

[98tls]

It's called intelligence. Sweet,ive no idea who to vote for but if you want to continue to pay for peoples actions caused by there parents actions then by all means kick off the "intelligence" party.You will get my vote but only if you pay my share.

[Ms Piggy]

The black and white vs grey thing doesnt just apply to race, politics, prejudice or anything else. Some people just see the world in different ways. Some see the big picture, others dont, some see black and white, some see a few shades of grey, others see a million shades of grey. Just like some people are visual learners, others kinesthetic learners, etc etc.

Okay I see what you're saying. I misunderstood your earlier post.

Basically my argument will always be that racism and prejudice have contributed greatly to the major world wide fuck ups.

Therefore, why contribute to that and try justify it by quoting stats that say a stereotype of a certain ethnicity is true so that makes racist comments justifiable...yeah, I think that made sense.

This little lefty is all tuckered out now and needs to sleep. Night, night.

[Hitcher]

Sweet,ive no idea who to vote for but if you want to continue to pay for peoples actions caused by there parents actions then by all means kick off the "intelligence" party.You will get my vote but only if you pay my share.

That one went right over my head.

[98tls]

That one went right over my head. Funny that,mine to.:done:

[yod]

Probably if thats the way you view it but as there so fucked off condones there actions then havent the (generally) white...no idea of the figures..got a right to be fucked off about being fucked over as well when there generation had nothing to do with it.

we've got a guy starting a thread called 'Fucking Darkies' and you think our generation has nothing to do with it?
we may not have started it, but we're sure as hell helping to continue it

viscious circle

think about it

white man royally fucks them over,
they fuck back, (who wouldn't?)
next generation says "fuck 'em" it wasn't my generation",
they continue to rebel against white man's system,
next generation says "fuck 'em" it wasn't my generation",
they continue to rebel against white man's system,
next generation says "fuck 'em" it wasn't my generation",
etc etc etc

not exactly promoting happy families are we?

[Ocean1]

Prejudice:
1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.

Racism:
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.


Interesting. Source?

To pre-judge is natural, a learned behaviour. Unsurprisingly, one can make statistically valid guesses about another's likely behaviour, (unfavourable or not) based on a few key cues. Possibly a survival trait relating to social adaptability.

The Racism definition I don’t dispute.

[Lias]

It's called intelligence.

Define intelligence, even the greatest minds of today still struggle to define exactly what intelligence is and how to measure it. We still don't understand fully how the human brain works, al we can say for certain is that it's incredibly complex. Who are you to say that having a different world view from others is not due to a different pathways in the brain.

“Every man is in certain respects (a) like all other men, (b) like some other men, (c) like no other man" (Murray, H.A. & C. Kluckhohn, 1953).

[98tls]

we've got a guy starting a thread called 'Fucking Darkies' and you think our generation has nothing to do with it?
we may not have started it, but we're sure as hell helping to continue it

viscious circle

think about it

white man royally fucks them over,
they fuck back, (who wouldn't?)
next generation says "fuck 'em" it wasn't my generation",
they continue to rebel against white man's system,
next generation says "fuck 'em" it wasn't my generation",
they continue to rebel against white man's system,
next generation says "fuck 'em" it wasn't my generation",
etc etc etc

not exactly promoting happy families are we? Absolutly correct.:clap:

[Squiggles]

Could get interesting if followed up...


If you carry an airgun or even possess it without a lawful purpose, you could be fined $4000 and/or imprisoned for up to 3 years.
Careless use of an airgun may bring a fine of $4000 and /or up to 3 years in prison.
Firing an airgun in a way that may endanger, annoy or frighten anyone or harm property could mean you are fined $3000 and/or are imprisoned for up to 3 months.
For unlawfully pointing an airgun at someone, you could be fined $1000 and/or spend up to 3 years in prison.
If you sell or supply an airgun to an unlicensed person under 18, you could be fined $1000 and /or imprisoned for up to 3 months. This could happen when an adult buys a child an airgun as a gift.

http://www.police.govt.nz/service/firearms/infosheet04.html

[jrandom]

Did someone say 'fucking darkies'?

:D

By the way, take note, guys - this is how they breed.

Yes, that's right - recent work in Natural Philosophy has determined that darkies do not, in fact, spring forth unbidden from piles of rotting meat!

This insight could have a profound effect on population control efforts.

[outlawtorn]

Interesting. Source?

To pre-judge is natural, a learned behaviour. Unsurprisingly, one can make statistically valid guesses about another's likely behaviour, (unfavourable or not) based on a few key cues. Possibly a survival trait relating to social adaptability.

The Racism definition I don’t dispute.

I just looked it up on Dictionary.com......

[Lias]

Very good.
The problem is I didn't say that that the particular group caused it, I said that they got the blame for it.

I read it as you saying I said they caused it. I just said it correlated (hence my correlation != cause post)



Basically my argument will always be that racism and prejudice have contributed greatly to the major world wide fuck ups.

Lets not forget religion!




Therefore, why contribute to that and try justify it by quoting stats that say a stereotype of a certain ethnicity is true so that makes racist comments justifiable...yeah, I think that made sense.

This little lefty is all tuckered out now and needs to sleep. Night, night.

I never said it justifies them, I just said that in my opinion it explained them. And nighty night.. 'sabout that time for me too.

[cs363]

Could get interesting if followed up...


If you carry an airgun or even possess it without a lawful purpose, you could be fined $4000 and/or imprisoned for up to 3 years.
Careless use of an airgun may bring a fine of $4000 and /or up to 3 years in prison.
Firing an airgun in a way that may endanger, annoy or frighten anyone or harm property could mean you are fined $3000 and/or are imprisoned for up to 3 months.
For unlawfully pointing an airgun at someone, you could be fined $1000 and/or spend up to 3 years in prison.
If you sell or supply an airgun to an unlicensed person under 18, you could be fined $1000 and /or imprisoned for up to 3 months. This could happen when an adult buys a child an airgun as a gift.

http://www.police.govt.nz/service/firearms/infosheet04.html

Well done that man! I thought that was a particularly interesting part of that page too :)
OOPS...sorry, we appear to be getting back on topic! :beer:

[Oscar]

Interesting. Source?

To pre-judge is natural, a learned behaviour. Unsurprisingly, one can make statistically valid guesses about another's likely behaviour, (unfavourable or not) based on a few key cues. Possibly a survival trait relating to social adaptability.

The Racism definition I don’t dispute.

It is a survival trait - if a plant with bright red berries gives you the shits, avoid all plants with bright red berries (thereby meaning that even the nutritious red berry plants are avoided). Strangers sometimes are trouble, therefore all strangers aren't trusted...Darwinism is a blunt instrument, not a scalpel.

However, we shed a whole lot of learned behaviours as we scrambled down from the trees, and this Tribal Instinct still blights civilisation. Hell, it stalks this forum - we like the protection of familiar groups and distrust anyone different.

[Irontusk]

hmmm....i wonder if its got anything to do with the fact that they've been consistently fucked over by the (generally) white majority for hundreds of years.....

If you think about it.. they've got a hell of alot out of the situation. You know, technology and all that. (In this situation, the car and paintball gun (and kfc, I had to come back to it!))

And, so, they want land back.. can I have my rifles and blankets back?

[Oscar]

I read it as you saying I said they caused it. I just said it correlated (hence my correlation != cause post)




My point was that there was more than one correlating factor, and one or more of these correlating factors is the cause.

[Ocean1]

It is a survival trait - if a plant with bright red berries gives you the shits, avoid all plants with bright red berries (thereby meaning that even the nutritious red berry plants are avoided). Strangers sometimes are trouble, therefore all strangers aren't trusted...Darwinism is a blunt instrument, not a scalpel.

However, we shed a whole lot of learned behaviours as we scrambled down from the trees, and this Tribal Instinct still blights civilisation. Hell, it stalks this forum - we like the protection of familiar groups and distrust anyone different.

You reckon there's no longer any value in the ability to quickly evaluate the possible behaviour or motives of an aproaching stranger?

[Oscar]

You reckon there's no longer any value in the ability to quickly evaluate the possible behaviour or motives of an aproaching stranger?

Yes there is a value to that, but basing your response on skin colour/team uniform/hair length or mode of transport is not necessarily an accurate method anymore....

[98tls]

Did someone say 'fucking darkies'?

:D

By the way, take note, guys - this is how they breed.

Yes, that's right - recent work in Natural Philosophy has determined that darkies do not, in fact, spring forth unbidden from piles of rotting meat!

This insight could have a profound effect on population control efforts. Mein gott :shit:Early Waffen SS propaganda.

[Ocean1]

Yes there is a value to that, but basing your response on skin colour/team uniform/hair length or mode of transport is not necessarily an accurate method anymore....

I disagree. In the critical time when survival response counts the ability to assess a stranger accurately is the key. It always has been, those who thought otherwise are no longer represented in the gene pool.

[Quasievil]

You can argue the causes till the cows come home, but it’s a fact that certain ethnicities are heavily overrepresented in violent crime statistics. Thus it’s reasonable to have correlation between ethnicity and dumb-arse actions.

Youre right its also a sad fact that skinny white boys on high powered sportsbikes are killing themselves and others at a high rate, and certainly are over represented in the statistics.............fuckers
So youre right there is a correlation between ethnicity and dum arse actions


:laugh:

[cs363]

Yes there is a value to that, but basing your response on skin colour/team uniform/hair length or mode of transport is not necessarily an accurate method anymore....

True, but still a good indicator....lol
For instance, I would probably cross the road if I saw this guy heading down the footpath towards me, though I'm sure he has a lovely personality.....
(What do you mean, what's my point - this is KB, who needs a point?!)

http://www.rightwingnews.com/graphics/skinhead.jpg

[Oscar]

I disagree. In the critical time when survival response counts the ability to assess a stranger accurately is the key. It always has been, those who thought otherwise are no longer represented in the gene pool.

The critical time?
Where do you live? Baghdad?

Can you give me an example of where skin colour would help you in that decision?

[Irontusk]

Yes there is a value to that, but basing your response on skin colour/team uniform/hair length or mode of transport is not necessarily an accurate method anymore....

Yes, it's not necessarily accurate, but it is just an initial reaction. If you can defy instinct before it happens and any thought process starts at all, good for you, or maybe you've had different life experiences.

Besides, if the OP had seen these idiots, and made a 'racist judgement' then it would've been right wouldn't it? No harm done (other than the whole getting shot in the back bit..)

As for the paintball shot, I've never been bruised by one, just some broken skin where I got shot in the neck last time. The shot itself wouldn't be unbearable or anything, but I'm sure it could make me jump enough to get the clutch wrong and either ram into the rear of the car infront or drop my bike, I'm sure anyone else could have the same reaction.

That guy with the tatoos is an idiot, I don't care what you believe but why would you ever do anything like that.. (and not a 1488 in sight :bleh:)

[Oscar]

True, but still a good indicator....lol
For instance, I would probably cross the road if I saw this guy heading down the footpath towards me, though I'm sure he has a lovely personality.....
(What do you mean, what's my point - this is KB, who needs a point?!)

http://www.rightwingnews.com/graphics/skinhead.jpg

You shouldn't post family memorabilia on the net, Colin - yer Mum's gonna be pissed when she sees her picture here....

[Mikkel]

Fucking niggers - been nothing but trouble since we took the chains off! ([p/t] for those daft enough to think I'm serious)

While I can understand why you got upset and do believe you took the correct course of action, it is disappointing to see the unwarranted application of racist slur here. The ethnicity of the perpetrators is completely irrelevant!

Idiots are everywhere - and they come from every walk of life, in any colour and with any imaginable conviction. Playing their game on their terms is just letting yourself become an idiot.

As for respect - it's not conditional.

[cs363]

You shouldn't post family memorabilia on the net, Colin - yer Mum's gonna be pissed when she sees her picture here....

Geez, I know you'd had a few the night you shagged her and they are related but this is my second Aunt Gladys - you of all people should have known that! :yes: (Ah, memories of a big night at the Cold Kiwi eh?)

[jrandom]

skinny white boys on high powered sportsbikes are killing themselves...

Goddamn, I just realised the solution. Staring us in the face all along and we never noticed.

Let loose the darkies, so that they may steal the high powered sportsbikes!

The darkies will grunt and prod the bikes with sticks, thereby being amused and kept from mischief, and the skinny white boys, finding themselves without instruments of carnage, will go back to chasing girls.

Everybody wins.

Except the girls, of course.

I rest my case.

Who's with me?

[Oscar]

Geez, I know you'd had a few the night you shagged her and they are related but this is my second Aunt Gladys - you of all people should have known that! :yes: (Ah, memories of a big night at the Cold Kiwi eh?)

Aunt Gladys?!
I thought it was Uncle Bully...?!



I feel so dirty....

[Ocean1]

The critical time?
Where do you live? Bahgdad?

Can you give me an example of where skin colour would help you in that decision?

Any situation where getting it wrong would be detrimental to my health. And skin colour is just one of many cues your brain will use to make that evaluation, whatever you might conciously think.

It's what we are, whether it fits with your ideals or not.

Having said that there's no reason further observation of some subjects shouldn't provide more refined data. Exactly what would those breasts feel like...?

[cs363]

Aunt Gladys?!
I thought it was Uncle Bully...?!



I feel so dirty....


Now you mention it, I do recall they said that year at the Kiwi was their first swinging experience. In my naïveté I thought they were talking about going for a skid on a sidecar outfit....

Somehow in the future I don't think I'll ever be able to look at you in the same light....

[Irontusk]

Should it be added that 'racial slurs' are usually only used when the stereotype fits? Labelling those that fit the stereotype is fairly justified. I.E, these guys shot someone in the back, therefore they fit the stereotype, but if they were to just drive along and mind their own business then they wouldn't be being called names.

I think the 'labels' that are being spoken about are more a description of behaviour than anything else, all those 'white darkies' that were in school.

[jrandom]

all those 'white darkies' that were in school.

I believe the term was 'wiggas'.

[Irontusk]

I believe the term was 'wiggas'.

Yes but that sounds too stupid. Besides, that'd make the maoris 'miggas' wouldn't it?

[jrandom]

Yes but that sounds too stupid. Besides, that'd make the maoris 'miggas' wouldn't it?

Would a Tongan therefore be a tigger?

And would he bounce?

[Irontusk]

Would a Tongan therefore be a tigger?

And would he bounce?

Oh definitly.

Damnit I was never a Pooh fan and can't remember any stupid tigger quotes. :doh:

[cs363]

Should it be added that 'racial slurs' are usually only used when the stereotype fits? Labelling those that fit the stereotype is fairly justified. I.E, these guys shot someone in the back, therefore they fit the stereotype, but if they were to just drive along and mind their own business then they wouldn't be being called names.

I think the 'labels' that are being spoken about are more a description of behaviour than anything else, all those 'white darkies' that were in school.

I think there may be a kernel of truth in that :mellow:

[Whynot]

most of them are ok when they arn't criming at you ...

[Ixion]

And simplistic. It's nothing to do with ethnicity. It's all to do with deprivation.



No, it's not. That is just a middle class cringe. And one which I find personally insulting. I grew up in a home that was genuinely economically deprived, to an extent unimaginable to you. Even then we were not as poor as some people of the older generation. Until you have seen your own mother fallen asleep at her sewing machine after working at it for 48 hours straight; or watch a widow lady trudge 6 miles through the rain, on foot, to deliver the cakes she has baked to sell to the home cookery - her ONLY source of income. Or watched an aunt boiling flour sacks to bleach them to make clothes; until you know whereof you speak, do not patronise people who really know what "deprivation" is.

We literally sometimes did not have food on the table. But not one of my family has ever "come to the attention" of the law. My parents made colossal sacrifices to see that we got an education and kept on the straight and narrow. To glibly assert that "deprivation" is a justification for shirking and bludging and parasitism is an insult to them.



People who lack the necessary economic wherewithal will often resort to alternative measures to close the gap between themselves and the "haves".


Some may. Honest folk don't. And I could introduce you to dozens of people known to me who are far poorer than those complained of here (they certainly don't have enough money for paint ball guns, let alone cars), who would totally reject such a suggestion.




Buying a big fence, burglar alarm and a gun is not the answer. And taking cheap shots at the various ethic groups who are overrepresented in our crime statistics


Perhaps they are overrepresented because they commit more crime?



does nothing to solve the problem either. People have no choice as to who their parents are.


What glib insulting middle class codswallop. No matter WHO a persons parents are, they are the ones who make the decision to either be a contributing member of society, or a parasite.



It can't be much fun being a member of an underprivileged minority that is often the butt of redneck jokes.

It's not. And the best way to stop being a member of an underpriviledged minority is hard honest work. An option which is available to everyone. No matter who their parents are.

[MIZXR]

And simplistic. It's nothing to do with ethnicity. It's all to do with deprivation. People who lack the necessary economic wherewithal will often resort to alternative measures to close the gap between themselves and the "haves". Buying a big fence, burglar alarm and a gun is not the answer. And taking cheap shots at the various ethic groups who are overrepresented in our crime statistics does nothing to solve the problem either. People have no choice as to who their parents are. It can't be much fun being a member of an underprivileged minority that is often the butt of redneck jokes.

What a load of PC liberal bullshit. is it the white people fault that 150 years ago they were eating people! and havent learnt to adapt to a life of work?

You do realise how much money scum gets when on the dole? Paying them hasn;t helped any has it. Noooo000 it's just getting worse.

A persons status in life is as poor excuse as "I was beaten as a baby thats why I was smashing windows then beat to death a person" fuck people like you are whats wrong with this country.

[Gremlin]

Well, this has got fantastically off topic...

Devil, you responded in the best way, well done :clap:

[Ms Piggy]

Good morning!


Lets not forget religion!
I reckon that's covered under prejudice.


I never said it justifies them, I just said that in my opinion it explained them. And nighty night.. 'sabout that time for me too. Ah hah, I see. But I've been pondering it and I guess the BIG question (for me) is: is it helpful to society as a whole? The simple answer: No.

Racism and prejudice aren't helpful and positive, agreeing with racist stereotypes (when looking at the BIG picture) actually contribute negatively overall. It's not the only thing but it's 1 of the biggies I reckon.

[Ms Piggy]

What glib insulting middle class codswallop. No matter WHO a persons parents are, they are the ones who make the decision to either be a contributing member of society, or a parasite.
You've made some interesting points there and I reeeally need to get to work but, I felt very strongly I had to respond to this concept that you (and a couple of others) made.

I meet kids (mostly under the age of 10) most days of the week whose lives are being messed up because of their parents bad choices/actions/decisions (or just general tragic circumstances) and the consequence of being a kid whose parents are majorly incompetent generally means you'll a less productive member of society. It's not simple as "making a choice" because some kids don't know there is a choice they can make for a start off and have no-one in their life that gives a shit. Having crap parents definitely highly increases your chances of being in those negative stats or a "parasite". There are always exceptions to the rule - which is the great thing of course!

It comes back to life being shades of grey rather than black and white with 1 size fitting all. Face it people - life is very complicated!

[fire eyes]

:girlfight: If the New Zealand Justice System can't put away a MURDERER .. ummm.. how would they put away a PAINTBALLER ???

:pinch: That is pretty low though eh Devil .. maybe it was just a group of guys trying to have some fun at someone elses expense .. although I think streaking through traffic would have been funnier! No .. actually streaking through traffic with a pineapple tied to his bits would of been even funnier! hahahahaha

Hope you can get the paint out of your backpack :weep:

[fire eyes]

Yes but that sounds too stupid. Besides, that'd make the maoris 'miggas' wouldn't it?


If 'that' makes Maori 'Miggas' .... what do you call a guy with giant dildo up his date hole? ummm ... Happy? or Higga? ohh a Happy Higga! or is that Hugga .. a Happy Higga Hugga? Ok I need a Cuppa Tea.

Fk Im cracking up laughing ..

[barty5]

Oh definitly.

Damnit I was never a Pooh fan and can't remember any stupid tigger quotes. :doh:


you mean like

Why? That's what Tiggers do the best
Hoohoohoohoohoo! That's what Tiggers love best!

[Okey Dokey]

What a crummy thing to do to a motorcyclist! Let us know if the cops ever catch up with these ratbags, Devil. I hope they get more than the usual slap on the wrist.

[imdying]

Only people that I've personally known who've done this are whities... Darkies, Whities, Jews, Spics, Crackers, Wops... all people are equally shit.

[ajturbo]

Got shot in the back with a paintball gun this afternoon on the way home from work.
Waiting at lights to turn right from Onewa rd into Birkenhead ave, car pulled up behind, then pulled out to go straight ahead. *THWAP* shot in the backpack as they came past about 1m from me. Took off after the bastards who had to stop at the next lights and did the expected "what the french toast was that?!". Three poly's, in their 30's all acting the man. Back seat passenger started to open the door as though going to get out so just walked the bike backwards, got their plate, did a U turn a parked up 50m down the road and *555'd them. Followed it up with a formal complaint at the cop shop immediately afterwards.

Godamn bottom feeders.
your getting soft in your old age eh...

[Devil]

I'm having a bit of a sad laugh here at the stirred up ants nest over a flippant remark. Totally out of perspective.

Mikkel, yes, respect IS conditional. Unless you're a god bothering idiot who always turns the other cheek. I will not. By default I respect all, until you do something dumb like this.

I didn't get around to posting a thread about the Fucking little wigga cunts throwing bottles and cans out of their ute at passers by the other day.

[enigma51]

Devils a racist i think this thread should be moved to pd and devil infracted

People of other color are people too they also have feeling and there blood is red just like yours

[firefighter]

I'm having a bit of a sad laugh here at the stirred up ants nest over a flippant remark. Totally out of perspective.

Mikkel, yes, respect IS conditional. Unless you're a god bothering idiot who always turns the other cheek. I will not. By default I respect all, until you do something dumb like this.

I didn't get around to posting a thread about the Fucking little wigga cunts throwing bottles and cans out of their ute at passers by the other day.

Agreed man, there's too many fagotty P.C wingeing whining easily offended dickheads on here, I see 100% why so many people stop using this site and go to www.sportsbike.co.nz.......I'm not there yet but it's a good relief now and then when I get sick of the pussies on here, some of the people on here I refuse to believe actually ride-with their so easily offended personalities, too fucken in touch with thier emotions, and need to harden the fuck up, fucken darkies? so what?I work with lots of darkies and you should hear the amount of "nigger, black cunt etcetc" that comes out of their mouths! You "bikers" on here need to chill out out take the comment how it stands, accept it, if you don't like it, go to another thread, the comment wasn't rascist, your just over sensitive, go sell your bike and buy a fucken smart car.

rant over lol

[Devil]

Devils a racist i think this thread should be moved to pd and devil infracted

People of other color are people too they also have feeling and there blood is red just like yours

I'm not racist! I ride a bleck boik!

[Irontusk]

And simplistic. It's nothing to do with ethnicity. It's all to do with deprivation.

Ixion is totally right about this, you're being a bit hypocritcal saying you can't judge someone by their skin colour but you can judge someone by their economic standing. How much money a parent has doesn't decide whether or not they're a good parent, either. Shit parents raise shit kids, not poor or rich parents.

The people that I know who would be most likely to do this are white, and have a fair bit of money, they are just incredibly stupid and have no values because 'daddy will sort it'.

[firefighter]

Devils a racist i think this thread should be moved to pd and devil infracted

People of other color are people too they also have feeling and there blood is red just like yours

you are taking the piss right?lol, i'm sure you are but you never know......

[Irontusk]

you are taking the piss right?lol, i'm sure you are but you never know......

There's a seriously sarcastic tone to it eh :laugh:

[firefighter]

Ixion is totally right about this, you're being a bit hypocritcal saying you can't judge someone by their skin colour but you can judge someone by their economic standing. How much money a parent has doesn't decide whether or not they're a good parent, either. Shit parents raise shit kids, not poor or rich parents.

The people that I know who would be most likely to do this are white, and have a fair bit of money, they are just incredibly stupid and have no values because 'daddy will sort it'.

I agree with some of what your saying, BUT, generalisations/stereotypes didn't just pop-up out of nowhere, theyr'e there because.....well they are quite often more truthful than people like to admit, PLUS I totally believe that beneficiaries breed beneficiaries, not the rule but mostly.

EDIT: yes I consider kids that become beneficiaries shit kids lol

[enigma51]

I'm not racist! I ride a bleck boik!

So know you comparing black people to bikes?

[enigma51]

you are taking the piss right?lol, i'm sure you are but you never know......

Its kb therefore its real life dont you know :msn-wink:

[firefighter]

Its kb mate its real life dont you know :msn-wink:

haha, yeah man it's all serious shit on here :wacko::laugh:

[Rollestonchick]

Have heard of people having arms charges laid against them for shooting those plastic pellet replica guns from cars so don't see why a paintball gun should be any differen't...

Interested to hear the outcome....

Let us know the outcome

[Blossom]

just wondering if all the sensitive types would be so up in arms if it was a ford ute full of white boys listening to metalica and he called them farkin rednecks?

:whocares:

[Mikkel]

No, it's not. That is just a middle class cringe. And one which I find personally insulting. I grew up in a home that was genuinely economically deprived, to an extent unimaginable to you. Even then we were not as poor as some people of the older generation. Until you have seen your own mother fallen asleep at her sewing machine after working at it for 48 hours straight; or watch a widow lady trudge 6 miles through the rain, on foot, to deliver the cakes she has baked to sell to the home cookery - her ONLY source of income. Or watched an aunt boiling flour sacks to bleach them to make clothes; until you know whereof you speak, do not patronise people who really know what "deprivation" is.

While I generally agree with the entirety of your post - one thing you do not make room for is the fact that times have moved on. So have morals (or lack there off) and so has the difference in material wealth between the poor and the rich.

However, as you probably would agree, there are no acceptable excuses for criminal behaviour.


Mikkel, yes, respect IS conditional. Unless you're a god bothering idiot who always turns the other cheek. I will not. By default I respect all, until you do something dumb like this.

No it is not conditional. If you want to be respected, you respect other people. If you behave like a spoiled child and throw a hussy fit everytime somebody show a lack of respect it will get worse and worse and worse and worse...

And this has nothing to do with turning the other cheek - that is indeed one of the least respectful responses. There's a, for some uncharted, middle ground between turning the other cheek and handing out beatdowns.

Also, a lot of people don't seem to understand the difference between respect and fear these days. Respect is about mutual coexistance - not about everybody else standing aside in awe as you come flying through on your ego-trip!

And I'm not directing this at you Devil - as I said before - I believe you took the correct approach to this situation. Too bad you chose to paint your post on here in less respectful colours (and just looking at the thread title should make that obvious).

[fire eyes]

what about if a carload of gay men listening to George Micheal hung out the window shouting foul obscenities in high pitched voices while throwing jellybeans at passerbyers!

wtf are we talking about again?

[Devil]

what about if a carload of gay men listening to George Micheal hung out the window shouting foul obscenities in high pitched voices while throwing jellybeans at passerbyers!

wtf are we talking about again?

Fucking homo's!

[Big Dave]

http://www.cranesmusicstore.com/images/1158048059613_HUDSON_CBJ35_DLX_BANJO_MAIN.jpg

[Devil]

I'll hum it, you play it.

[Tank]

How bloody PC has KB become.

Here is something that is dangerous- and could cause someone to get seriously hurt being hit by a paintball gun.

Imagine riding along, visor up and coping a paintball in the face - the next person that cops it could be you, or someone you know.

Perhaps they will end up under a car having fallen off after being shot.

But - NO - 1/2 the forum is happy to let that pass and are more interested in the fact that Devil called them 'Darkies' - and that becomes the main topic of the thread.

THAT boys and girls is why we have 1/2 the problems we have - We over look the bigger issue and focus on the PC touchy, warm fuzzy bits.

And in regard to being racist - do you think that the guys with the paintball gun would have shot at some Island bloke walking along the street?

[fire eyes]

can you also stand on one foot with one eye closed while you do it!

[yod]

oh good grief

"they did it so I can too"

[fire eyes]

And in regard to being racist - do you think that the guys with the paintball gun would have shot at some Island bloke walking along the street?

Yes. Then they would run like Forest Gump.

[enigma51]

THAT boys and girls is why we have 1/2 the problems we have - We over look the bigger issue and focus on the PC touchy, warm fuzzy bits.

And in regard to being racist - do you think that the guys with the paintball gun would have shot at some Island bloke walking along the street?

That beside the point he came on here with racist intent from the start. He could have said some blokes shot at me with paintball gun but no he used "Fucking Darkies". Thats just as bad as using the K word made famouse by racist South Africans! NZ is not place for racism and neither is KB

[Tank]

That beside the point he came on here with racist intent from the start. He could have said some blokes shot at me with paintball gun but no he used "Fucking Darkies". Thats just as bad as using the K word made famouse by racist South Africans! NZ is not place for racism and neither is KB

So start another thread about the racism, homophobia and other non PC issues on KB in site stuff.

The issue isn't the thread title its the fact that there are a car load of guys going around shooting paint-balls at bikers (and parked bikes).

[Devil]

That beside the point he came on here with racist intent from the start.

No he didn't. He picked a random insult out of his head to describe these three losers. It doesn't have anything to do with a race of people. As I stated further down I consider anyone who makes NZ their home to be equal. Unless they're a godamn tool.

[enigma51]

So start another thread about the racism, homophobia and other non PC issues on KB in site stuff.

The issue isn't the thread title its the fact that there are a car load of guys going around shooting paint-balls at bikers (and parked bikes).

That is the issue but not the tone of the thread it has very much a racist tone to it

[enigma51]

No he didn't. He picked a random insult out of his head to describe these three losers. It doesn't have anything to do with a race of people. As I stated further down I consider anyone who makes NZ their home to be equal. Unless they're a godamn tool.

Randomly specific to there skin color

[Tank]

Quick question - hopefully putting it in perspective - again since we are debating the racist comment more than the issue raised:

What heading do you fine the most disturbing:

"Fucken Darkies ...." or
"Biker down / dead ... fell under car after being shot with paintball gun"

Ive been on the receiving end of racism many times - but Id rather be on the end of that than a paintball when riding the bike.

So lets discuss the issue - not make an issue of the thread title.

[firefighter]

K word made famouse by racist South Africans! NZ is not place for racism and neither is KB

you mean kaffir? or nigger? or redneck? or cracker? or whitey? I actually laughed when I read the title, but I am pretty callous, and nothing offends me really, stop being so precious over it dude, I bet your even a white dude getting upset over it.....lol.

:calm::whocares:

[Fatjim]

That beside the point he came on here with racist intent from the start. He could have said some blokes shot at me with paintball gun but no he used "Fucking Darkies". Thats just as bad as using the K word made famouse by racist South Africans! NZ is not place for racism and neither is KB

Mate, at my rugby club, the moaris and polys are always getting called nigger! They don't seem to mind as long as its another nigger saying it.

[enigma51]

Quick question - hopefully putting it in perspective - again since we are debating the racist comment more than the issue raised:

What heading do you fine the most disturbing:

"Fucken Darkies ...." or
"Biker down / dead ... fell under car after being shot with paintball gun"

Ive been on the receiving end of racism many times - but Id rather be on the end of that than a paintball when riding the bike.

So lets discuss the issue - not make an issue of the thread title.

Both are equaly bad!

[enigma51]

you mean kaffir? or nigger? or redneck? or cracker? or whitey? I actually laughed when I read the title, but I am pretty callous, and nothing offends me really, stop being so precious over it dude, I bet your even a white dude getting upset over it.....lol.

:calm::whocares:

So because im white i cant defend my fellow humans?

[Tank]

Both are equal as bad!

So calling someone unspecific and who is unlikly to read the post a name on a Internet forum is as disturbing as someone getting killed due to a deliberate physical action?

Each to their own - but I cant share your values on this one.

[enigma51]

So calling someone unspecific and who is unlikly to read the post a name on a Internet forum is as disturbing as someone getting killed due to a deliberate physical action?

Each to their own - but I cant share your values on this one.

Yes ...................

[Tank]

Yes ...................

We will just have to agree to disagree - and respect each other opinion.

As we should respect Devils and drop the discussion on calling someone names and focusing on the issue he raised - starting another thread if either of us feels strongly enough about that.

So on topic - I hope that they catch the guys who did this, Hopefully they will be charged with something serious - Should I see anything like this I would 111 and say that they have a gun of some description.

[enigma51]

We will just have to agree to disagree - and respect each other opinion.

As we should respect Devils and drop the discussion on calling someone names and focusing on the issue he raised - starting another thread if either of us feels strongly enough about that.

So on topic - I hope that they catch the guys who did this, Hopefully they will be charged with something serious - Should I see anything like this I would 111 and say that they have a gun of some description.

So how is calling them names going to help with his problem or even get them arrested? No wonder they are shooting people with paintball guns if i get refered to as fucking darkie i will be upset as well

[Tank]

So how is calling them names going to help with his problem or even get them arrested? No wonder they are shooting people with paintball guns if i get refered to as fucking darkie i will be upset as well

Typical PC reply - but try and remember - THEY shot first THEN they were called a name - Why do you feel you have to place the blame for their actions on others.

[enigma51]

Typical PC reply - but try and remember - THEY shot first THEN they were called a name - Why do you feel you have to place the blame for their actions on others.

They hardly "shot" first you seem to forget who invaded who

[Fatjim]

I thought they were Poly's not Mori oris.

[enigma51]

I thought they were Poly's not Mori oris.

No thats where wrong they are human

[MSTRS]

All this crap about racism...got fuck all to do with words...it's more to do with underlying beliefs and actions.
These knob-ends did something unasked for to the OP and he didn't like it. Could have been very dangerous, thankfully wasn't (that time). He was and is pissy about it and vented...we all do that...

[Fatjim]

So Polys aren't human? Riiight.

[Murray]

So why do Fatjim and Enigma51 have the same avatar or is this just an enigma. Or are they both 4 eyed 6 fingered cousins, or aren't I allowed to say that.

[Fatjim]

Hey keep on topic.

[Murray]

No thats where wrong they are human

So being human, who invaded who?????

[Blossom]

They hardly "shot" first you seem to forget who invaded who

so you are saying that devil shot them first???
and yes I know what you were implying and no shooting of their long deceased relatives had/has anything to do with the fact that they shot a paint ball gun at a passerby. They were tools. Idiots and bullys. And do you defend them based on their actions? no? But just because they have darker skin....whos the racist now?

[MSTRS]

....whos the racist now?

Racists believe the bullshit...the rest of us just use words. Maybe we should use paint=ball guns - then we'd be fine eh?

[enigma51]

so you are saying that devil shot them first???
and yes I know what you were implying and no shooting of their long deceased relatives had/has anything to do with the fact that they shot a paint ball gun at a passerby. They were tools. Idiots and bullys. And do you defend them based on their actions? no? But just because they have darker skin....whos the racist now?

Two wrongs dont make a ...... you know the rest
calling them names dont help either

[Blossom]

Personally I hate bullys. Any colour, any kind, any age and this sort of crap is why. I hope the fuzz do get them before they hit a new rider and cause an accident. WHICH IS THE BLOODY POINT OF ALL THIS!!!!

[Tank]

They hardly "shot" first you seem to forget who invaded who

And these "humans" were invaded by 'us' when? Or were you thinking of Maoris? You may have to dig deeper to find an excuse for their behaviour. Pfft - no wonder people have ownership issues when there are people working so hard to find excuses for them.



No that's where wrong they are human

So was the poor bastard riding along on his bike before being shot at. But that doesn't seem to matter to you because he was white and called them a name.

[nodrog]

good golly gosh

[Blossom]

Two wrongs dont make a ...... you know the rest
calling them names dont help either

I agree... two wrongs dont...

[Fatjim]

But do two Wongs make a Chinese takeaway.

[Irontusk]

But do two Wongs make a Chinese takeaway.

Sometimes.

[Blossom]

But do two Wongs make a Chinese takeaway.

mmm...chinese

[enigma51]

But do two Wongs make a Chinese takeaway.

racists remark dont you think

[Murray]

Your not wong there!!!

[MSTRS]

racists remark dont you think

Did you think that by coming here you would get away from the dangerous and criminal acts perpetrated by 'original settlers' ?

[Tank]

Your not wong there!!!

hes not wong - hes white.

[nodrog]

handle the chandle

[Murray]

Happy birthday Blossom!!!!!!!!!

[Newblade]

Well i'm sorry to say,BUT what a bunch of PC tossa's we have become.
I was lead to believe that in times of war,to the victor go the spoils.
Why in 2008 are we still yarping on about what was done to others hundreds of years ago.Before anyone jumps on me for racist views bear in mind my children are crossbred lol(waiting for bites)
The point is the shooters were DARKIES!!.The fuckers!!!!
Hence the opening line. Well said.

I can confirm here that I am an equal opportunity racist.


I hate every race equally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you pc fuckers can go cry into your multi coloured hankies and find something else to do!!!!!!!!!!!

Bottom line Fucken Darkies shot some poor bastard with a paint gun end of story. I say again FUCKEN DARKIES:yawn:

[outlawtorn]

just wondering if all the sensitive types would be so up in arms if it was a ford ute full of white boys listening to metalica and he called them farkin rednecks?

:whocares:

Careful there....taking the lords' name in vain! (MetallicA)

[Blossom]

Happy birthday Blossom!!!!!!!!!

Thankyou thankyou thankyou... Nothing like a little debate on ya birthday to keep me young....:lol:

[Swoop]

I hope that they catch the guys who did this, Hopefully they will be charged with something serious - Should I see anything like this I would 111 and say that they have a gun of some description.
Exactly. Simply call 111 and say you have just been shot, by a person in vehicle (enter description and rego # here).
Let the plod do the rest... as it will get priority action.



As for the rest of this thread... hopefully people can realise how pathetic it all looks.

[Brian d marge]

Personally I hate bullys. Any colour, any kind, any age and this sort of crap is why. I hope the fuzz do get them before they hit a new rider and cause an accident. WHICH IS THE BLOODY POINT OF ALL THIS!!!!

aint that the truth, unfortunately one group or two groups in our social mix are anecdotally over represented in the crime game.

Again unfortunately , NO pun intended here , but calling a spade a spade , NZ is a violent place and it tends to be caused by those two groups.

Disparity can be the factor which forces people to commit crime , history has shown up that , just look at England . Just some groups respond a little better than onthers ( no its not whity either , christchurch is a example of that ....

So as in life I have a choice , like it or lump it . I will stay here , nice and safe and not a retard in site ....


Good luck fellas , nailing them up wont be the answer , getting off bums and doing something about the powers that be ( no not national or new labour ) but the purse strings behing them both may help .....

Stephen

[Morcs]

Got shot in the back with a paintball gun this afternoon on the way home from work.
Waiting at lights to turn right from Onewa rd into Birkenhead ave, car pulled up behind, then pulled out to go straight ahead. *THWAP* shot in the backpack as they came past about 1m from me. Took off after the bastards who had to stop at the next lights and did the expected "what the french toast was that?!". Three poly's, in their 30's all acting the man. Back seat passenger started to open the door as though going to get out so just walked the bike backwards, got their plate, did a U turn a parked up 50m down the road and *555'd them. Followed it up with a formal complaint at the cop shop immediately afterwards.

Godamn bottom feeders.

Mustve been the day for it yesterday.

I had some guy trying and undertake, then overtake, then undertake me all the way along hobby road yesterday. he was emotionless the entire time. like a psychopath. I *555'd him and just followed up with a complaint too.

[nodrog]

Well i'm sorry to say,BUT what a bunch of PC tossa's we have become.
I was lead to believe that in times of war,to the victor go the spoils.
Why in 2008 are we still yarping on about what was done to others hundreds of years ago.Before anyone jumps on me for racist views bear in mind my children are crossbred lol(waiting for bites)
The point is the shooters were DARKIES!!.The fuckers!!!!
Hence the opening line. Well said.

I can confirm here that I am an equal opportunity racist.


I hate every race equally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you pc fuckers can go cry into your multi coloured hankies and find something else to do!!!!!!!!!!!

Bottom line Fucken Darkies shot some poor bastard with a paint gun end of story. I say again FUCKEN DARKIES:yawn:

bloody honkies!

[Kickaha]

People of other color are people too they also have feeling and there blood is red just like yours

Can we cut some of them open to make sure?

[MIZXR]

That beside the point he came on here with racist intent from the start. He could have said some blokes shot at me with paintball gun but no he used "Fucking Darkies". Thats just as bad as using the K word made famouse by racist South Africans! NZ is not place for racism and neither is KB

Your an idiot!
NZ has nigga (can't call them Maori as none actually exist so that would be racist) loving schools, forces language on us, funding for nigga TV, Nigga only funding from WINZ or the maori funding dept, nigga only schools , nigga churchs
and you say NZ doesn't have racism -- fuck NZ made from it
goddam fucking nigga lovers

send the black paintball shooters back to their fucking island so NZ can keep funding it.

[MIZXR]

So how is calling them names going to help with his problem or even get them arrested? No wonder they are shooting people with paintball guns if i get refered to as fucking darkie i will be upset as well

so you think the pakeha word means white man do you. What you think nig and ga were sitting on a beach and saw some white sails come over the horizon and thought shit white men we will call them pakeha -like fuck it used to be an insult and if people wern't so fucking thick and PC loving they might understand what it acutally means.

[EJT]

Your an idiot!
NZ has nigga (can't call them Maori as none actually exist so that would be racist) loving schools, force language on us, funding for nigga TV, Nigga only funding from WINZ or the maori funding dept, nigga only schools , nigga churchs
and you say NZ doesn't have racism -- fuck NZ made from it
goddam fucking nigga lovers

sen the black paintball shooters back to their fucking island so NZ can keep funding it.

Maybe you should fuck off to Alabama and start lighting crosses. Idiot.

[cs363]

Your an idiot!
NZ has nigga (can't call them Maori as none actually exist so that would be racist) loving schools, force language on us, funding for nigga TV, Nigga only funding from WINZ or the maori funding dept, nigga only schools , nigga churchs
and you say NZ doesn't have racism -- fuck NZ made from it
goddam fucking nigga lovers

sen the black paintball shooters back to their fucking island so NZ can keep funding it.

Pot, kettle, black.


so you think the pakeha word means white man do you. What nig and ga were sitting on a beach and say some white sails come over the horizon and thought shit white men they must be pakeha -like fuck it used to be an insult and if people wern't so fucking thick and PC loving they might understand what it acutally means.

http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=pakeha&meta=

[Oscar]

Your an idiot!
.

Internet Forums for Beginners: Before posting something that describes someone else as an idiot, check your spelling/grammar.

In this case and by your own hand, you're the idiot...:niceone:

Ps. You are also a racist fucktard...

[cs363]

Internet Forums for Beginners: Before posting something that describes someone else as an idiot, check your spelling/grammar.

In this case and by your own hand, you're the idiot...:niceone:

Ps. You are also a racist fucktard...


Dear diary, today Oscar the curmudgeon agreed with me.......
(also, he was strangely nice to a racist fucktard with an IQ of considerably less than the power output of a Chinese pit bike, must ask after his health....)

[MIZXR]

whatever keep funding your rasist country, keep voting for Labour and wonder why NZ is getting more and more violent. Why are most of the acts of violence all by black people?

Of course Im racist look at what NZ is turning into. Got to support the minority!
I want white only schools with only english taught, white only team sports,
white only funding from WINZ --- oh wait white people know how to work.

[firefighter]

Have this you racist motherfuckers, lol

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[firefighter]

I want white only schools with only english taught, white only team sports,
white only funding from WINZ --- oh wait white people know how to work.

I understand those comments to some degree, it is hugely racist to have sports teams where you must be maori/schools etc, BUT I think the way your trying to get your point across is not going to get an audience rather a mob of angry P.C brigade! plus pretty hugely off topic in relation to the post!

[Boob Johnson]

*posting in a pointless drivel thread*

[MIZXR]

Maybe you should fuck off to Alabama and start lighting crosses. Idiot.

Na rather see everyone treated as equal reguarless of race, colour or sex but while these half caste blacks are given such special treatment I'm happy to be anti-anti apartied

[cs363]

I understand those comments to some degree, it is in it's own way racist to have sports teams where you must be maori/schools etc, BUT I think the way your trying to get your point across is not quite in the right way! plus pretty hugely off topic in relation to the post!

Ah! Some intelligence! Often it's not so much the content of the message but it's delivery.....

[MIZXR]

I just wanted to see if the red bling won over the green bling, wasn't trying to put my message across the right way just to annoy people. It worked someone even told me the like to see me knocked of my bike.
That violent he must believe he's a Maori despite half castes being kicked out of the tribes in the old days.

[MIZXR]

Maybe you should fuck off to Alabama and start lighting crosses. Idiot.

So you believe in discrimination and special treatment for certain races?

[MIZXR]

Ah! Some intelligence! Often it's not so much the content of the message but it's delivery.....

To a degree? South Africa was like this and the world hated it - strange how that only seems to cause problems when the blacks are disadvantaged.

[enigma51]

To a degree? South Africa was like this and the world hated it - strange how that only seems to cause problems when the blacks are disadvantaged.

you are more than welcome to go and live there NZ can do without people like you!

[Irontusk]

Maybe you should fuck off to Alabama and start lighting crosses. Idiot.

Cause that isn't stereotyping against people from Alabama at all, eh? :yes: Ahaha, hypocrits..

[enigma51]

So you believe in discrimination and special treatment for certain races?

Like that was never the other way around :wacko:

[firefighter]

Like that was never the other way around :wacko:

errrr, a long long time ago.......thats like bringing up treaty stuff, also happened a long long time ago!

[enigma51]

Your an idiot!
NZ has nigga (can't call them Maori as none actually exist so that would be racist) loving schools, forces language on us, funding for nigga TV, Nigga only funding from WINZ or the maori funding dept, nigga only schools , nigga churchs
and you say NZ doesn't have racism -- fuck NZ made from it
goddam fucking nigga lovers

send the black paintball shooters back to their fucking island so NZ can keep funding it.

You need to breathe in between contractions..

In ............ and ................. out

[slimjim]

dude await an update ...... :Police: what the fuck they doing ... is the paintgun classed as a firearm ? :confused:

[enigma51]

dude await an update ...... :Police: what the fuck they doing ... is the paintgun classed as a firearm ? :confused:

All jokes aside
the cops take things like this very serious cause and i think it falls under intent to harm or something like that

[Devil]

dude await an update ...... :Police: what the fuck they doing ... is the paintgun classed as a firearm ? :confused:

Well they're doing their enquiries. The issue I have is I was shot from behind and there were three people in the car so i'd never be able to prove who it was unless someone admitted it. Which is unlikely. So at least it'll put the shits up them and deter them from doing it again (particularly if the car driver is getting harassed by the cops to provide information). The police have all my contact details, if anything i'd probably expect to hear via the post.

[Irontusk]

is the paintgun classed as a firearm ? :confused:

Using one in a public place (and especially firing at people, or even just pointing it at someone will make it worse) will get you done for the same thing as using a proper gun if you have a licence. (If it's a proper gun and you DON'T have a licence then that'll be another charge on top)

Some proper law stuff was pasted earlier in the thread.

[cs363]

Well they're doing their enquiries. The issue I have is I was shot from behind and there were three people in the car so i'd never be able to prove who it was unless someone admitted it. Which is unlikely. So at least it'll put the shits up them and deter them from doing it again (particularly if the car driver is getting harassed by the cops to provide information). The police have all my contact details, if anything i'd probably expect to hear via the post.


You might not be able to prove who actually pulled the trigger, but depending how keen the cops are to push it there should be incriminating fingerprint evidence on the gun itself and there are other charges that could be brought into play against all the occupants of the car.
I assume you have told them that you wish to press charges etc, rather than just making a complaint and leaving it at that? Like many government departments they may need a bit of a push in the right direction :)

[Whynot]

NZ is not place for racism and neither is KB

lol
thats a good one, NZ is full of racists ....

[Whynot]

Randomly specific to there skin color

you havn't been here long have you .....

[fire eyes]

so you think the pakeha word means white man do you. What you think nig and ga were sitting on a beach and saw some white sails come over the horizon and thought shit white men we will call them pakeha -like fuck it used to be an insult and if people wern't so fucking thick and PC loving they might understand what it acutally means.

hmm .. Pakeha ... giggle .. has many meanings to many people for different reasons .. and I agree it is used alot in a derogatory manner .. BUT for me being part Nigger/Migga/Darkie/Grass Skirt Dancing Chicky and obvious beneficiary since coz Maori is in my blood it means I live off Welfare! ... we have always .. always been brought up with Pakeha meaning this:

Pakeha ... those who are Non-Maori .. Non-Maori being those who do not look the same or live by the same principles as those of our own culture.

Since the obvious first Pakeha were of white skin it was natural that the meaning extending to all white people .. however!!!! Pakeha actually extends to all of different cultures who are not that of Maori ... simple explanation .. in a non-derogatory manner!

Hmm MIZXR ... wannna come fluff up my grass skirt now sugar??????? :whistle:

[ajturbo]

you know the funny thing about this..

Luke and i were talking just the other day, about how it looks when the cop has his Lazar pointed at you...

what would they do if you speed past with a paint ball gun.. and shot the car/van covering it with paintball paint, that was parked to gather revenue?

and now this...
well that answers it...
that my idea would NOT be funny....

[GIXser]

Racism is no fucken joke bro'......I dare say if you had ever been on the receiving end your attitude would be very different..........

What is racism these days.....??!!! they" can call us whites ... but ya cant call "them" blacks..

maori fishing quota far exceeds "whites"quota.

lower grades in uni are acceptable for "ethnic" people and will pass.

a school i know of, recieves 27 mill a year in government funding every year, only maori students allowed!!

ps could someone explain to me, why the prisons are 50 % maori and polynesians,
yet the nz population is only made up of 20 % maori and polynesian
Racist...??! no just statistics....

and has anyone bothered to watch crime watch in the past six months.. it seems they" (the police") are looking for a male maori or polynesian at every episode...and not just one either

funny enough... im not a racist i dont care if they are black white or yellow, scum is scum to me...it just seems that they are mainly maori and polys...

go... on give me red rep ya tree hugging fuckers:laugh:

[Irontusk]

in a non-derogatory manner!



It however is used in a derogartory manner by some. And I'm not allowed to use english words to describe maoris, it's 'non PC' if I do, I don't think it's any different when using the word pakeha.

[Irontusk]

lower grades in uni are acceptable for "ethnic" people and will pass.


That pisses me off, aswell as the reserved seats for maoris, whether there is any who want to do the course or not anyway. Entrance requirements are lower from what I remember too. Basically means they don't need to be as qualified to get paid for the same job.. much like female cops, I have no problem with women being cops, but they should have to meet the same physical requirements as men if they are supposed to be doing the same job. (I'm sure there will be a few unhappy responses to that.. but it's true)

[fire eyes]

[QUOTE=Irontusk;1714794]It however is used in a derogartory manner by some.

By SOME .. not ALL. Its a global thing that. SOME and not ALL.

It doesnt bother me actually if people call me nigger in a derogatory manner ... the reality is they probably have childhood or erection issues so I just smile and carry on spreading my fairy love dust and not take things so personally. :innocent: :love:

[Big Dave]

Racial epithets are weapons, regardless of who is flinging them.
They hurt, provoke and anger and are most often hurled in anger.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, Mine is I don't think it's appropriate in a public forum.

[Whynot]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=maori

[Irontusk]

and are most often hurled in anger.


Well.. he did get shot in the back for no reason while out riding his bike..

[fire eyes]

That pisses me off, aswell as the reserved seats for maoris, whether there is any who want to do the course or not anyway. Entrance requirements are lower from what I remember too. Basically means they don't need to be as qualified to get paid for the same job.. much like female cops, I have no problem with women being cops, but they should have to meet the same physical requirements as men if they are supposed to be doing the same job. (I'm sure there will be a few unhappy responses to that.. but it's true)

Don't hold back Irontusk, tell us how you really feel! and I have a special little lollipop here waiting for you with your name on it. :wari:

[awayatc]

Yes, sadly some of the biggest scum in this country is Maori/polynesian....
And yes they are over represented in criminal statistics.

However if I look back at the most unselfish and generous workmates, neighbours and friends I have had (and still have).....Maoris are also heavily over-represented.....

:scooter:

[DMNTD]

LOL...typical KB thread!!! :clap:

A dude gets shot by some fuck knuckles that happen to be of dark skin and suddenly it's all about honkies vs darkies :rolleyes:

[cs363]

Hmm MIZXR ... wannna come fluff up my grass skirt now sugar??????? :whistle:



Hmmmm somehow I don't think you'll get on...... :lol:

[1 Free Man]

I fully object to being refered to as a PAKEHA. My understanding is the word means "white pig" If they (maori's) can refer to me as a white pig in their language then I reserve the right to refer to them as BLACK PIGS in my language and if they find it offensive well TOUGH SHIT. :finger:
Two guesses which of us would be called racist.
Another thing that fucks me off is government generated forms of all kinds that have PAKEHA as a ethnicity choice on them. I always cross it out and put WHITE NEW ZEALANDER.

[cs363]

I fully object to being refered to as a PAKEHA. My understanding is the word means "white pig" If they (maori's) can refer to me as a white pig in their language then I reserve the right to refer to them as BLACK PIGS in my language and if they find it offensive well TOUGH SHIT. :finger:
Two guesses which of us would be called racist.
Another thing that fucks me off is government generated forms of all kinds that have PAKEHA as a ethnicity choice on them. I always cross it out and put WHITE NEW ZEALANDER.


Go back and click on the Google link I posted earlier.....OR for a more concise version look at fire eyes post above. :yawn:

[fire eyes]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=maori


That was interesting reading Whynot!

Hey .. any exposure of the Maori culture can actually be considered good exposure especially when people get curious and what to know more so actually go and find out in real life! ;)

[DMNTD]

... wannna come fluff up my grass skirt now sugar???
I got the Zig Zags...:woohoo:

[Big Dave]

I got the Zig Zags...:woohoo:

And he's not talking about his riding style.