U-turning cops - quite common

[bully]

yesterday i was a couple of cars back from a cop, he desides to put on his lights, then instead of doing a u turn he pulls left so we all think cool hes pulling over, then cuts us off and then u turns, we all had to slam our breaks on.
all this for a loaded truck climbing a hill, to put three cars in danger, to catch a truck who was hardley going to do a runna.

what a dick head, the road was real wide too.
this seems all to common, i dont trust thos bastards now.
if your a cop think about the inocent before you go after your quota.
its the 2nd time its happened to me lately.:angry2:

[Gremlin]

fit bull bars... then wait for him/her to not give you enough room... they are like any other road user unless they have lights on etc...

I do believe the patrol cars have some serious blind spots tho, and this comes from those using them.

[TLMAN]

so we all think cool hes pulling over


Good luck with overtaking a cop car with lights flashing, only a fool would do that:Pokey:

[awayatc]

Yes, quite common for police vehicles to excecute very inapropriate u-turns to catch some minor traffic offenders.....

Like those old wanted posters "dead or alive"

[bully]

he put his lights on. then moved left like he was going to let the cars behind him go past before the u turn. but didnt and cut us off.
its not over taking if hes pulled over. as in off the road line

[duckonin]

Yep saw the same thing happen not more than two weeks back out from Morrinsville we were on the bike and before the idget:Police: did his u turn we were about 160 metres behind his car doing 105k's an hour, so we were very close to the mutt when it happened THE LAW..ffs some have no idea, They may be the power but the answer to no one when on the road...

[Gremlin]

Good luck with overtaking a cop car with lights flashing, only a fool would do that:Pokey:
urrr... what if it was a firetruck?

Of course, it was my friend and he was in the country... and the firetruck wasn't going very quickly...

He did feel very guilty...

[mstriumph]

the power goes to some people's heads ........ can't judge all of em by a few lunatics

[ElCoyote]

fit bull bars... then wait for him/her to not give you enough room... they are like any other road user unless they have lights on etc...

I do believe the patrol cars have some serious blind spots tho, and this comes from those using them.

Their only blind spot is between the ears

[scumdog]

Their only blind spot is between the ears

I hope you apply that line of thought to the public too???:wait:

[BadCompany]

I do believe the patrol cars have some serious blind spots tho, and this comes from those using them.

That's no excuse. I'm sure if you turn you head like your meant to, you can see your blind spot. Too bad hardly anyone does this.

[McJim]

I hope you apply that line of thought to the public too???:wait:

There wouldn't be these blind spot problems if the cops had proper cars eh Scummy? Like Ford Mustangs for all - Yayeee!

[MarkH]

A couple of years ago a cop made a dangerous U-Turn to pull over my mate so that he could tell him off. My mate had broken no laws and there was nothing the cop could charge him with, just pissed the cop off and the cop happily endangered the lives of other motorists to have a wee vent.

BTW
When you wave to a cop you should use 4 fingers, not 1.

[bully]

yer well his guy should have seen us miles before just by looking in his rear view,i allways know if theres someone behind me.

[xwhatsit]

urrr... what if it was a firetruck?

Of course, it was my friend and he was in the country... and the firetruck wasn't going very quickly...

He did feel very guilty...
I think fire engines are limited in speed somewhat. I've passed one on the motorway which had its lights flashing, and I wasn't going very fast either. Didn't feel guilty one bit :eek:

[Patrick]

yesterday i was a couple of cars back from a cop, he desides to put on his lights, then instead of doing a u turn he pulls left so we all think cool hes pulling over, then cuts us off and then u turns, we all had to slam our breaks on.
all this for a loaded truck climbing a hill, to put three cars in danger, to catch a truck who was hardley going to do a runna.

what a dick head, the road was real wide too.
this seems all to common, i dont trust thos bastards now.
if your a cop think about the inocent before you go after your quota.
its the 2nd time its happened to me lately.:angry2:

Make a complaint.

Some have no idea how to turn and go after someone safely. They learn real fast when ther errors are pointed out to them.

The dept will charge em....


That's no excuse. I'm sure if you turn you head like your meant to, you can see your blind spot. Too bad hardly anyone does this.

True. The new common whores have real bad absolutely shocking blind spots, even turning the head to look isn't good enough.


There wouldn't be these blind spot problems if the cops had proper cars eh Scummy? Like Ford Mustangs for all - Yayeee!

Convertable please... no blind spots... and major chick magnet!!!!

[ElCoyote]

I hope you apply that line of thought to the public too???:wait:

I do actually SD and that's why I commented. Professionals should know their trade and committing an offence to prosecute an offence is disappointing. Surely the advanced driver training should have instilled some commonsense I would have thought. Perhaps a return to the good old days of cops advancing from motorbikes to cars would see this scenario change. Meanwhile they seem to be no different to the average Joe Public and that's sad.

[fatzx10r]

had a cop do a u turn on a dodgy single lane bit of motorway in dunedin once just to give me a speeding ticket. sure i should'nt of been doing 20kph over the speed limit. but where he did the u turn was fuckin dangerous, it was after 4pm so the traffic was starting to get heavy. he was a smart mouth prick to and did'nt like it when i told him what i thought of him, and that next time he should'nt waste his turning around after me cause i won't stop

[cs363]

I do believe the patrol cars have some serious blind spots tho, and this comes from those using them.

Yeah, it's hard to see behind properly with one eye...... :lol:

It's a shame that some (not all) cops are so hell bent on issuing speeding tickets (usually very minor infringements) to the exclusion of all else, including safe driving practices.
I wish the focus would move from blaming speed for everything and that they would focus more on bad driving habits which seem to be getting worse by the day. By this I am referring to things like following too closely, failing to give way, failing to indicate etc....
(rant ends....for now)

[NC]

They are people, people make mistakes. Whata concept.

[sinfull]

In my book, if a cop ahead of me were to throw his lights on it tells me he just pinged someone coming the other way (not in this case perhaps) and he is obviously gonna do a u turn, hell he may even fool the odd driver into thinking he's going to pull to the left (with lights on ?) when he gives himself the room to swing the uturn in one motion ! Me i'd be waiting for the u turn to happen, not speeding up to overtake him !
Get heart rate up a little did he lol and you don't do that to yrself on the bike ?

[cs363]

In my book, if a cop ahead of me were to throw his lights on it tells me he just pinged someone coming the other way (not in this case perhaps) and he is obviously gonna do a u turn, hell he may even fool the odd driver into thinking he's going to pull to the left (with lights on ?) when he gives himself the room to swing the uturn in one motion ! Me i'd be waiting for the u turn to happen, not speeding up to overtake him !
Get heart rate up a little did he lol and you don't do that to yrself on the bike ?


While I tend to agree with you as that's how I would treat the situation, it's an interesting scenario as there does not seem to be any advisory in the road code as to what a driver/rider should do in the case that an emergency vehicle in front of you turns its flashing lights on.
I think the onus should still be on the poilce officer to signal his intentions using his indicators, not just turning on the red & blues and thinking that's an excuse to whatever he feels like to the possible detriment of other road users.
After all, they should be setting an example shouldn't they?

[Kiwi Graham]

All very well saying what you would do if you were behind him what about the poor buggers on the sides!
I saw this the other day:-
Pulled up at trafic light controlled crossroads at the front of the cue. In the cue opposit two cars back was a cop in a cage. Our lights were red.
A cage clearly cut it fukin close running the red light from my right, cop hits the lights and pulls a smokin 'U' turn. Unfortunatly for the guy in the filter lane entering that same bit of road same smoking copper is now in has no choice but to hit the anchors and mount the curb!! Good job there were no pedestrians stood there eh!

The car the cop was after had turned into a car park so wasnt going anywhere so there was no need for the Starsky & Hutch heroics.

Dont get me wrong the red light jumper deserves to get fukin nicked (I fukin hate the dangerous bastards) but not at the risk the cop was prepared to put others at.

[bully]

yer kinda my whole point, if your in the wrong you probley should get a ticket. but not at the risk of others!
yes other than speed there is alot of bad drivers.
in my case i was excpecting the bad cop driving coz it was, but i was back a couple of cars, the guy behind him was the worse off. and he had his lights on it just seemed he was gunna use his head and pull left to let us past, but at the last minute pulled right out accross us, it was a wide road and the loaded truck wasnt going far. for a proffesonal driver he should know better.

iv tryed doing a complaint before, you give them the details but they dont really care, protecting there own, its just a waste of time.
i know its a big game and cops like a chase, but do it safely, think of others, is it really worth it? they should be the pro, set an example.
oh yer quit trawling at 80 kmph for your quota and stop holding traffic up too.
i know your not all bad, but i seldom see a good one.

there i feel better now. lol.

[KiwiRat]

Make a complaint.

Some have no idea how to turn and go after someone safely. They learn real fast when ther errors are pointed out to them.

The dept will charge em....



True. The new common whores have real bad absolutely shocking blind spots, even turning the head to look isn't good enough.



Convertable please... no blind spots... and major chick magnet!!!!

Patrick, Patrick, Patrick.

What's with the considered, reasonable reply buddy? (p/t)

This just unacceptable.:devil2:

+1 on your last comment, by the way.

[KiwiRat]

They are people, people make mistakes. Whata concept.

You will get banned talkin' like that mate.:whistle:

[idleidolidyll]

those red flashing lights often accompanied by a siren mean "stop or get the fuck out of the way and stay there until I'm gone"

same in any country i know of

[Swoop]

Taking a guess here, but surely the police would be the most prevalent users of the "U-turn" in NZ?
Would there not be some form of extensive training to drive this point home when they are at Porirua?

[Grub]

Good luck with overtaking a cop car with lights flashing, only a fool would do that:Pokey:

Good Point!!!!

I'm not sure what the rules are, but I have always taken them to mean ... be prepared to stop. Instead people just barrel past

[cs363]

those red flashing lights often accompanied by a siren mean "stop or get the fuck out of the way and stay there until I'm gone"

same in any country i know of

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roadcode/about-driving/receiving-signals.html << Nothing in there about what the procedure is when the Police/Emergency vehicle is in front of you. I stand by my point that the onus should be on the Police car to indicate it's intentions in this instance.
You are totally correct regarding a Police car coming up behind you or heading towards you though. As the rules seem unclear on this point I would think there is even more reason for the cop to indicate to avoid confusion and possible ensuing accident. Especially in light of previous well publicised incidents.

[NC]

You will get banned talkin' like that mate.:whistle:

Banned? Whats that? ;)

[TimeOut]

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roadcode/about-driving/receiving-signals.html << Nothing in there about what the procedure is when the Police/Emergency vehicle is in front of you. I stand by my point that the onus should be on the Police car to indicate it's intentions in this instance.
You are totally correct regarding a Police car coming up behind you or heading towards you though. As the rules seem unclear on this point I would think there is even more reason for the cop to indicate to avoid confusion and possible ensuing accident. Especially in light of previous well publicised incidents.

Agreed.
So these cops should be done for careless use or at the very least failing to give way. I've had it happen and my son just about Tee boned one.

If you lay a complaint be prepared to be hassled for at least 6 months (had that happen) they'll pull you or your family over for a check (Tui anyone) every time they see you, at least in small town NZ they do.

[slimjim]

Agreed.

If you lay a complaint be prepared to be hassled for at least 6 months (had that happen) they'll pull you or your family over for a check (Tui anyone) every time they see you, at least in small town NZ they do.

:shutup: not only a little town , they come acalling in big one too...
however Off to the watch house and really bitch .... :sunny:
...yes badge number a must...

[Kiwi Graham]

those red flashing lights often accompanied by a siren mean "stop or get the fuck out of the way and stay there until I'm gone"

same in any country i know of

How the hell can you stay out the way if you haven'yt got a fukin clue where he's going! :rolleyes:
The initial post said he turned on his lights and pulled left then turned right into a 'U' turn! :nono: no indication of what his intensions were :oi-grr:
To say we all around him have to grind to a halt while he figures out what he wants to do is ridiculous. :spanking:
The little orange lights on each corner of his cage are there to 'indicate' his intension to manouver in addition to the big blue and red ones on his roof to indicate his presence. :niceone:

[terbang]

BTW what ever became of that cop who caused those guys to crash in the buller gorge. Did he get done?

[Ixion]

those red flashing lights often accompanied by a siren mean "stop or get the fuck out of the way and stay there until I'm gone"

same in any country i know of

So how does that work at accidents scenes. The ones with lots of flashing lights. (red and blue). Where they constantly tell people NOT to slow down, let alone stop?

Or, if I am driving along the road and I see a cop car ahead, lights flashing, with another car pulled up in front of him. Common sense says "quota. Poor bugger. Keep driving". Should I instead stop , in case he should decide to pull a U turn in front of me without warning? I doubt that would be well receivd by the cop, especially on a busy road.

[RadioMan]

I think fire engines are limited in speed somewhat. I've passed one on the motorway which had its lights flashing, and I wasn't going very fast either. Didn't feel guilty one bit :eek:

Fire trucks have to obey speed limits. 110km/h on the open road and 70km/h in a 50 zone. Pass them if you are sure that you are not going to get in their way, but remember they could be turning the next corner and the indicators can be hard to see with all the other flashing lights going.
Also some older fire trucks are a bit slow and sometimes we just ain't in that much of a hurry, all depends what sort of job we are going to.

Trust me you see some of the worst driving when you are sitting in the front seat of a fire truck. It is a real education in just how little attention drivers pay to what is on the road around them, you would think they would see a big red truck with flashing lights and a siren - but no, they seem to have their eyes welded shut.

[RC1]

Fire trucks have to obey speed limits. 110km/h on the open road and 70km/h.

:shit: since when are these the speed limits :weird:

[MarkH]

:shit: since when are these the speed limits :weird:

I kinda presumed that RadioMan was saying that fire trucks have speed limits that they have to obey - speed limits specifically for them not the standard speed limits for general road users. Presumably because they are too big and heavy to travel at very high speeds without risking the lives of other road users.

[cs363]

I kinda presumed that RadioMan was saying that fire trucks have speed limits that they have to obey - speed limits specifically for them not the standard speed limits for general road users. Presumably because they are too big and heavy to travel at very high speeds without risking the lives of other road users.

Yep....something to do with the gazillion gallons of water in the back I'd suspect?

[Max Preload]

Trust me you see some of the worst driving when you are sitting in the front seat of a fire truck. It is a real education in just how little attention drivers pay to what is on the road around them, you would think they would see a big red truck with flashing lights and a siren - but no, they seem to have their eyes welded shut.

You should try riding a motorbike... that's an eye opener...


Convertable please... no blind spots... and major chick magnet!!!!

The soft tops don't carry the light bar too well - at speed it tends to fold back and smack the driver in the head.

[slimjim]

Yep....something to do with the gazillion gallons of water in the back I'd suspect?


Huh :( Thought they carried more pumps an hoses .... than ...... water....;)

or by seated in the front seat of the truck...:dodge: he see some fucking stupid vehicles doing some fucking stupid things by its "DRIVER" .. Playnice: in front of the truck an its crew .....:whistle:

an another point i don't quiet understand ..:wacko:

why is it that when seeing the ...lights up ahead with victim ..:whistle:

that the :Police: car has its :moon: hanging out over
half of the other cars bodyline... causing vehicles to be drive towards the centreline...an in cases cross a little bit onto the other lane :thud:


fuck surely the prick can pull in closer to the off roadway......Fuck Whats the lights For and surely the prick can stand with driver in front of the said vehicle...

fuck me .. and what they're trained......:brick: ....;)

[Xman]

Huh :( Thought they carried more pumps an hoses .... than ...... water....;)

Nope. For sure they carry hoses and have a pump, but if you consider the weight and bulk, they certainly carry far more water.



why is it that when seeing the ...lights up ahead with victim ..:whistle:

that the :Police: car has its :moon: hanging out over
half of the other cars bodyline... causing vehicles to be drive towards the centreline...an in cases cross a little bit onto the other lane :thud:


fuck surely the prick can pull in closer to the off roadway......Fuck Whats the lights For and surely the prick can stand with driver in front of the said vehicle...

fuck me .. and what they're trained......:brick: ....;)

Perhaps the cop is wanting a car between himself and the oncoming unobservant jackass drivers as he approaches the other vehicle?
Or do you think he should just be open to someone driving into him from behind?
Get over it and drive/ride a little closer to the centreline for a few metres.

[Patrick]

Surely the advanced driver training ...

That would be nice... you get to drive like "Driving Aunt Daisy" around town with the instructor... get to go around some cones and then go to Manfield, where you get to drive around some more cones - not very realistic.... and that was 23 years ago...........................

Nowadays they do a simulated traffic stop and a simulated pursuit (at 50kmph of course) and some skid pan work (which is actually kinda useful....).


In my book, if a cop ahead of me were to throw his lights on it tells me he just pinged someone coming the other way (not in this case perhaps) and he is obviously gonna do a u turn, hell he may even fool the odd driver into thinking he's going to pull to the left (with lights on ?) when he gives himself the room to swing the uturn in one motion ! Me i'd be waiting for the u turn to happen, not speeding up to overtake him !
Get heart rate up a little did he lol and you don't do that to yrself on the bike ?

Logical... but logic is not a tool the common driver has in their arsenal.... Fair call about indicating and all, but if they can't see the red and blues strobing, they aint gonna see the orange blinkers......


........... for a proffesonal driver he should know better.

Yep, sure should... but mistakes can turn into habits....

iv tryed doing a complaint before, you give them the details but they dont really care, protecting there own, its just a waste of time.

Times have changed. Prosecute is the preferred option these days....

i know its a big game and cops like a chase,

All of this post was actually quite good, except for this little piece..... It aint a game and chases are shit. The paperwork alone makes it not worthwhile...

oh yer quit trawling at 80 kmph for your quota and stop holding traffic up too.
i know your not all bad, but i seldom see a good one.

Trawling at 80? Way too fast... the idea is to turn around as soon as poss... making sure nothing is on your arse when you do so. (Nothing ever behind me while "trawling...") Holding up traffic while trawling? That'll be a newbie....

there i feel better now. lol.

:grouphug:...................


Would there not be some form of extensive training to drive this point home when they are at Porirua?

See above......


The soft tops don't carry the light bar too well - at speed it tends to fold back and smack the driver in the head.

Shouldn't be shagging in the back seat while driving then....


an another point i don't quiet understand ..:wacko:

why is it that when seeing the ...lights up ahead with victim ..:whistle:

that the :Police: car has its :moon: hanging out over
half of the other cars bodyline... causing vehicles to be drive towards the centreline...an in cases cross a little bit onto the other lane :thud:


fuck surely the prick can pull in closer to the off roadway......Fuck Whats the lights For and surely the prick can stand with driver in front of the said vehicle...

fuck me .. and what they're trained......:brick: ....;)

So the cop has some cover while at the drivers window (ie: standing on the roadway) from oncoming vehicles who either do not see the flashing lights or are keen on driving at him / her to give a fright - or worse.... :shit:


Perhaps the cop is wanting a car between himself and the oncoming unobservant jackass drivers as he approaches the other vehicle?
Or do you think he should just be open to someone driving into him from behind?
Get over it and drive/ride a little closer to the centreline for a few metres.

Beat me to it Xman.:2thumbsup

[scumdog]

That would be nice... you get to drive like "Driving Aunt Daisy" around town with the instructor... get to go around some cones and then go to Manfield, where you get to drive around some more cones - not very realistic.... and that was 23 years ago...........................

Nowadays they do a simulated traffic stop and a simulated pursuit (at 50kmph of course) and some skid pan work (which is actually kinda useful....)

Hmm, failed the driving test first time - it was a wet day and I was drifting the car around the bends and through the cones waaaay too much, it seems that is NOT the way to do it.

Passed second time easily - 'cos I drove like a nana.

[cs363]

Logical... but logic is not a tool the common driver has in their arsenal.... Fair call about indicating and all, but if they can't see the red and blues strobing, they aint gonna see the orange blinkers......


Agreed re: logic (and let's not even mention common sense!)
And totally agree with you regarding the dimwits that can't even see red & blue strobe lights.....but, the indicators when U-turning would be nice for the small percentage of us that do take riding/driving seriously and do pay attention to these things, in fact as professional drivers this should really be a 'second nature' thing anyway, like automatically putting on a seat belt when you hop in the cage.....oh, that's right I'm a minority again!

I'm developing a new pet peeve with dumbarse drivers lately, I can't believe the number of people that pull out right in front of oncoming traffic (and no, not just bikes, in one instance it was a 40 ton semi-trailer unit...) especially when there is nothing coming behind the vehicle they pull out in front of..............risking death or injury (obviously they didn't notice the TV ad either..) to gain a nanosecond advantage - absolutely unfucking believeable, oh and no this isn't in Auckland, it's actually on Patricks beat.
You'd think nobody would be in that much of a hurry down here....


Right, this rant endeth for now...

[scumdog]

I'm developing a new pet peeve with dumbarse drivers lately, I can't believe the number of people that pull out right in front of oncoming traffic (and no, not just bikes, in one instance it was a 40 ton semi-trailer unit...) especially when there is nothing coming behind the vehicle they pull out in front of..............
Right, this rant endeth for now...

Scumdogs theory of the road:

The more a driver/rider pulls out on front of you and inconveniences you (and causes you to brake) - the more likely they are to turn-off at the next drive-way or side-street.

Need to brake only a little? - they will carry on for ages before turning off.

Have to slam on the anchors? - they'll turn off at the next available side street.

Try it, you'll see it's true!!(most of the time)

[Grahameeboy]

Lets put things in perspective, a Kiwi cop is still a Kiwi driver who are notorious for some sad driving...it's the general driving standards in NZ which are generally bad, it's not just about cops.
I am sure for high speed pursuits they have the training but this was just basic driving skills and down to general road attitudes.

[Patrick]

Hmm, failed the driving test first time - it was a wet day and I was drifting the car around the bends and through the cones waaaay too much, it seems that is NOT the way to do it.

Passed second time easily - 'cos I drove like a nana.

We got to do that up at Whenuapai Air Base... only for the Sgt running it to go off at me for losing control. Funny how the S/Sgt in the car at the time thought it was the best piece of driving he had ever seen....

Yep... driving like a nana is just how they like it.


... I can't believe the number of people that pull out right in front of oncoming traffic (and no, not just bikes, in one instance it was a 40 ton semi-trailer unit...) especially when there is nothing coming behind the vehicle they pull out in front of..............risking death or injury (obviously they didn't notice the TV ad either..) to gain a nanosecond advantage - absolutely unfucking believeable, oh and no this isn't in Auckland, it's actually on Patricks beat.
You'd think nobody would be in that much of a hurry down here....

Funny you should mention that.... I thought it was just me noticing this annoying habit that is becoming more frequent of late, it seems. But I have also noticed that Naki drivers are inconsiderate pricks at the best of times, who will not allow anyone to merge in front of them, or let others pull out of the supermarkets into the stationary lines of traffic - they would rather park over the supermarket exits than let someone get in front of them......

Maybe its the crap rugby team....:jerry:

[cs363]

Scumdogs theory of the road:

The more a driver/rider pulls out on front of you and inconveniences you (and causes you to brake) - the more likely they are to turn-off at the next drive-way or side-street.

Need to brake only a little? - they will carry on for ages before turning off.

Have to slam on the anchors? - they'll turn off at the next available side street.

Try it, you'll see it's true!!(most of the time)

:laugh: i don't even have to try this experiment.....I know from experience that you are 100% spot on with this one scumdog!!

It's along the same lines as the guy that just has to pass you (usually on double yellow lines/blind corner/limited visibility...the list goes on) even if you are travelling at moderately over the speed limit, lets say 107-110km/h - he'll either take the next turn off/drive way or whatever - or worse still slow down by around 15km/h on average once they pass. :wacko:

[cs363]

Funny you should mention that.... I thought it was just me noticing this annoying habit that is becoming more frequent of late, it seems. But I have also noticed that Naki drivers are inconsiderate pricks at the best of times, who will not allow anyone to merge in front of them, or let others pull out of the supermarkets into the stationary lines of traffic - they would rather park over the supermarket exits than let someone get in front of them......

Maybe its the crap rugby team....:jerry:


I lived in Hamilton for around 20 years (on the whole, not bad driving observed), moved to Auckland for about 7 years for the job I had at the time (don't need to comment on driving habits there...) and have been in the Naki coming up on 8 years. When I first moved here it was a pleasure driving and riding around the place, but this carry-on seems to have started about 18mths ago and just seems to be getting worse.
Have we had a bunch of imports from up North come here lately?! :laugh:

I've always said I much prefer driving in peak hour traffic in LA to Auckland, might have to start extending this to the North island now.... :(
I wonder if US drivers are more considerate on the whole because you never know who might be carrying a weapon? :2guns: :laugh:

[Patrick]

I lived in Hamilton for around 20 years (on the whole, not bad driving observed), moved to Auckland for about 7 years for the job I had at the time (don't need to comment on driving habits there...) and have been in the Naki coming up on 8 years. When I first moved here it was a pleasure driving and riding around the place, but this carry-on seems to have started about 18mths ago and just seems to be getting worse.
Have we had a bunch of imports from up North come here lately?! :laugh:

I've always said I much prefer driving in peak hour traffic in LA to Auckland, might have to start extending this to the North island now.... :(
I wonder if US drivers are more considerate on the whole because you never know who might be carrying a weapon? :2guns: :laugh:

Having moved here from Auckland 7 years ago, I noticed it even back then... Auckland was (and still is) much more considerate than here, but the traffic flows of course are much smaller here, so it wasn't such a biggie.... Now I am getting acclimatised to the driving here, it is getting a tad annoying.....

[twotyred]

yesterday i was a couple of cars back from a cop, he desides to put on his lights, then instead of doing a u turn he pulls left so we all think cool hes pulling over, then cuts us off and then u turns, we all had to slam our breaks on.
all this for a loaded truck climbing a hill, to put three cars in danger, to catch a truck who was hardley going to do a runna.

what a dick head, the road was real wide too.
this seems all to common, i dont trust thos bastards now.
if your a cop think about the inocent before you go after your quota.
its the 2nd time its happened to me lately.:angry2:

I hope you gave this wanker a long blast on the horn and the finger?

[cs363]

Having moved here from Auckland 7 years ago, I noticed it even back then... Auckland was (and still is) much more considerate than here, but the traffic flows of course are much smaller here, so it wasn't such a biggie.... Now I am getting acclimatised to the driving here, it is getting a tad annoying.....

Is there another Auckland?? :bleh: :laugh:
I guess it does depend on time of day and where you are actually driving in Auckland....and I suppose with a greater concentration of people, there's always going to be a similarly greater number of :tugger: :Pokey:
And at least up there there is some excuse (sort of/twisted logic..) as there is a large volume of traffic and greater distances to travel and more pressure on most folks.
But here where there isn't the traffic volume and the drive from one side of town to the other is measured in minutes rather than hours i just cannot understand it.
I think 'tad annoying' is a bloody understatement Patrick! lol

[cs363]

I hope you gave this wanker a long blast on the horn and the finger?


Yep....probably just before the cop turned around and arrested him under the summary offences act..... :whistle:

[sinfull]

Having moved here from Auckland 7 years ago, I noticed it even back then... Auckland was (and still is) much more considerate than here, but the traffic flows of course are much smaller here, so it wasn't such a biggie.... Now I am getting acclimatised to the driving here, it is getting a tad annoying.....
I recon it comes down to consideration for others ! In Auckland ppl are used to congestion and wave ppl in (one for one works anywhere) driving trucks taught me patience big time (yeah i pulled out in front of ppl when i got sick of the non believers, funny thing was, they slowed and let me in too)

Is there another Auckland?? :bleh: :laugh:
I guess it does depend on time of day and where you are actually driving in Auckland....and I suppose with a greater concentration of people, there's always going to be a similarly greater number of :tugger: :Pokey:
And at least up there there is some excuse (sort of/twisted logic..) as there is a large volume of traffic and greater distances to travel and more pressure on most folks.
But here where there isn't the traffic volume and the drive from one side of town to the other is measured in minutes rather than hours i just cannot understand it.
I think 'tad annoying' is a bloody understatement Patrick! lol
Tell ya what is annoying is failure to know how to merge ! (hand in hand with failure to let ppl merge) I'm sorry if i upset anyone here but i have great pleasure in educating the mofo's beside me (who failed to see me as i was merging) that at 100 km in a merging lane i'm coming across (not a problem on the bike, they just sad mofo's then, but it helps that i don't give a rats arse about the cars panel work) ! But its the scared nana parked at the end of the merging lane that gets me worked up the most !
A/ she should know to speed up to the limit prior to the end of the lane and merge
B/ penilties for not allowing ppl to merge should be loss of licence for 3 months (that teach some manners)
I'm sorry but NZ drivers are a sad bunch and the driving test should be upgraded to a way higher level !
Give me ten v8's patrick and a minimal salary (plus copious amounts of stress relief) and send em all my way Bwahahahahaahaa
Be throwing all sorts at them !!!!!!!!

[cs363]

Yeah, dead right - common courtesy would go a long way on NZ roads. :yes:

[Cr1MiNaL]

Convertable please... no blind spots... and major chick magnet!!!!

Yea but then the wigs wud blow off, and that could be a major no no to bikes wanting to wheelie past :nono:

[Max Preload]

Yeah, dead right - common courtesy would go a long way on NZ roads. :yes:

After many years of trying to improve NZ driving by leading by example, I've personally given up showing courtesy. Flash your lights to signal to someone that you've seen them and are giving them the opportunity to let them in and the idiots are looking the other way at an empty road! WTF?

My policy now is fuck 'em. It's actually a hard habit to break, perhaps even harder than breaking the complete and utter discourtesy habit that the rest have always practiced.

If you can't beat them, join them.

[cs363]

After many years of trying to improve NZ driving by leading by example, I've personally given up showing courtesy. Flash your lights to signal to someone that you've seen them and are giving them the opportunity to let them in and the idiots are looking the other way at an empty road! WTF?

My policy now is fuck 'em. It's actually a hard habit to break, perhaps even harder than breaking the complete and utter discourtesy habit that the rest have always practiced.

If you can't beat them, join them.

Yep, it's sure hard to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys! :lol: