A brush with the LEOs

[slofox]

Stopped the bike on the side of the road to talk to a friend yesterday......then noticed a LEO :Police: pull up behind me....:shit: (what have I done what have I done??????)...he duly mosied over to me and asked for Licence and WOF......so I put down the stand, took off the gloves, removed the helmet, retrieved the wallet from the jacket pocket and produced the licence. In the meantime I had told him the WOF was in the little plastic sleeve thingy that was attached behind the number plate......he could only see the Rego, not the WOF. So I had to get off the bike to pull the sleeve away from the plate so that he could see the WOF in the other side of the sleeve....he was happy with that and happy with the licence. He commented "Good to see you have your class 6." I replied "Well of course I have it - I'm riding a motorbike!" To which his reply was "Lots of people don't bother these days...." This was a bit of a surprise to me - I thought everyone was like me and duly followed correct procedure re licences...:innocent:...apparently not! Then the real reason for stopping me came out - "I have the 1000cc version of your bike" he said...and we ended up talking bikes.....all in all he seemed like quite a pleasant fellow despite being constantly exposed to all the evils of our modern society.....but I did breathe a sigh of relief as I puttered sedately away afterwards......:sweatdrop

[MSTRS]

Go on...you had to swallow, didn't you?
:dodge:

[Tank]

Go on...you had to swallow, didn't you?
:dodge:

He didnt mention the 'special' breathalizer ???

[imdying]

Yeah, the police are getting tricky... getting harder to tell them apart from the humans :lol:

[breakaway]

It's all fun and games till you get done for not indicating for 3 seconds before changing lanes.

[slofox]

Go on...you had to swallow, didn't you?
:dodge:

Yeah - I did actually.........changed me undies as soon as I got home......

[MSTRS]

Yeah - I did actually.........changed me undies as soon as I got home......

Ah, you're just too easy. You'll get no respect that way...
You do know 'they' like you to play hard to get? Let them chase you a bit first?

[slimjim]

what ..thought he'd at least have the balls to just pull up and say gid'ay..
why the fuck ask for your info... ya's had already pulled up chatting..:blink:

[slofox]

You do know 'they' like you to play hard to get? Let them chase you a bit first?

Didn't have the chance - I was already stopped......:(

[Patrick]

Oh dear Slofox... re- read the above.... ya hussy!!!!!!

[AndyOnTheFlyingBrick]

I hate getting pulled over, even when i know i have been a good boy.

just realised i have no idea what a class 6 is so need to read up.

do you need to have your card and paper counterpart at all times? including wof?

[scracha]

do you need to have your card and paper counterpart at all times? including wof?

Welcommen to ze republic of Clarkistan. Your Papers please!

To be pedantic...surely if you were stopped and not on the bike then you wouldn't need your license?

[KingJackaL]

I hate getting pulled over, even when i know i have been a good boy.

just realised i have no idea what a class 6 is so need to read up.

do you need to have your card and paper counterpart at all times? including wof?

Is this for real?

If you've been for your motorcycle license, you should know what class 6 is. A New Zealand drivers license can have various numbered classes - in combination (1 = car, 2 = medium rigid, 3 = medium semi, 4 = heavy rigid, 5 = heavy semi, 6 = motorcycle), as well as endorsements, see the top section of:
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/licensing/

And yes, you do need to have your license with you at ALL times while driving (/riding if it's a bike that requires a license) on public roads. See:
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/56.html#otherinfo

[sinfull]

Is this for real?


I think you will find ummmmm no its a P/T

And whats with the 5 heavy semi bit ? ya do mean mean trailer aye ?

[MSTRS]

I think you will find ummmmm no its a P/T



Actually - I think you will find it's not...http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1725087&postcount=1

[sinfull]

Actually - I think you will find it's not...http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1725087&postcount=1

Haha oh ok !

Hello Andy welcome to our nightmare !!! Hope you have ya UK bike licence to carry ya through lol

[AndyOnTheFlyingBrick]

Actually - I think you will find it's not...http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1725087&postcount=1

Thanks for clearing that up......I'm going to put it in my Sig to avoid confusion.

In regard to the licence carrying question, in the UK the official rules were to carry your licence at all times but if you didn't have it then it was no big problem as you could just produce it later at any station. I'd like to know if the procedure is the same here or can you get a fine for not having it with you.

@ Sinful, Yes i have a full UK licence and been riding for 7-8 years. I am getting it converted whenever I get around to making it to the AA shop.

[slofox]

Oh dear Slofox... re- read the above.... ya hussy!!!!!!

Ahhhhh yesssss - shit - I see what you mean!!! So the correct answer was NO I DID NOT!!!

[MSTRS]

Thanks for clearing that up......I'm going to put it in my Sig to avoid confusion.

In regard to the licence carrying question, in the UK the official rules were to carry your licence at all times but if you didn't have it then it was no big problem as you could just produce it later at any station. I'd like to know if the procedure is the same here or can you get a fine for not having it with you.

@ Sinful, Yes i have a full UK licence and been riding for 7-8 years. I am getting it converted whenever I get around to making it to the AA shop.

Yep...must carry at all times when using a vehicle. And it must be for the correct class of vehicle too. Class 1 is ordinary car, van, truck or camper under 4500kg. You can ride a moped on a car licence (moped is under 50cc and under 2.5kw?). But for any bike over that you need a Class 6 licence.
If you fail to produce a valid licence at the roadside, you get a fine and usually banned from driving/riding away. NZ did have the same as you are used to (produce within 7 days etc) but that's long gone.

[AndyOnTheFlyingBrick]

Thats quite harsh! Im going to have to fold it up and seal it in something otherwise its going to get quite manky and torn. Lucky I have a glovebox on the bike to keep it in when riding haha

anything else I should know about the plod in regard to bikes?

[Swoop]

Didn't have the chance - I was already stopped......:(
A golden opportunity wasted...
"Is this your bike?"
"Nope. Just standing here in my gear, waiting for the rider to return so I can ask him for a ride".

[MSTRS]

Can you get it laminated? Cheap and effective. And keep it in your pocket/wallet. What if you go out in a car...and there it is, at home in your bike...ooops.

[AndyOnTheFlyingBrick]

Can you get it laminated? Cheap and effective. And keep it in your pocket/wallet. What if you go out in a car...and there it is, at home in your bike...ooops.

Id love to, so when they try to write speeding points on it I can just wipe it off afterward hahahaha.....

Thats my main issue! they give you a plastic card and a counterpart, so you would logically think you can just use the plastic as it stays safe in your wallet! Oh no thats too logical for them. Its guaranteed Ill leave it in the other vehicle when i actually get pulled over.

[sinfull]

Thats quite harsh! Im going to have to fold it up and seal it in something otherwise its going to get quite manky and torn. Lucky I have a glovebox on the bike to keep it in when riding haha

anything else I should know about the plod in regard to bikes?

Once ya do the change over to a kiwi licence you should get a plastic (not such a lifetime one) in the mail within a week !

[CookMySock]

I got stopped on my 650 with a class 6L and got sent home - no ticket. Put it back in the shed, son.

THEN, I get stopped in my car coz it has the kids Learner plates on it and I'm the only driver. :blink: (it looks like I'm an unsupervised learner dunnit) :blink: Can I see your license son, er, old fella ? "Uh, I left it in my bike jacket, officer." :blink: "But you do have a license, dont you?" "Yes sir, oh the L plates, just dropped my learner son off at soccer." :whistle:

Steve

[KingJackaL]

Actually - I think you will find it's not...http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1725087&postcount=1

Ah *understands* :)

Welcome to kiwi-land AndyOnTheFlyingBrick. There goes me assuming you're a kiwi (who should know that - having to carry your license was pretty well advertised when they changed that) xD.

We have pretty decent government department websites here, so check out the LTSA site I linked to. It'll have full descriptions of what all the classes are here, what the restrictions for various licenses are, what you need to get licenses, how much everything costs etc etc.

The roadcode's up here:
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/roadcode/

...and for a more in-depth view of all NZ road law, you can always peruse the NZ Legislation website (but yeah, it's slower going ;) ):
http://legislation.govt.nz/

[blacksheep]

It's all fun and games till you get done for not indicating for 3 seconds before changing lanes.

are you supposed to use them in nz i thought it was optional:dodge:

[trustme]

Mate & I got stopped in PioPio a while back for a license check,we have both had them for well over 20 years. Copper said you would be suprised how many riders do not have one so they had started targeting license checks

[portokiwi]

Hay Andy you can get your kiwi one now as they just changed the system
Do I have to sit any tests?
All drivers must know the road rules, what the road signs mean and how to drive safely. Learning the road rules is particularly important because of New Zealand's unique 'give way' rule (when you are turning left, you must give way to vehicles that are coming from the opposite direction and turning right). You can find out more about this rule and others in The official New Zealand road code

.
Some countries require similar driving skills and have similar licensing systems to New Zealand's. Depending on the country you have come from and the class of licence you are converting, you may not have to sit theory and/or practical tests. Other countries may have driver licensing systems that are very different from New Zealand's. People from these countries do have to sit both theory and practical tests.

Theory test?
You do not have to sit the theory test if:

you have a licence from Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom or the United States of America, and
your licence is current (or has expired less than 12 months), and
you are converting a car or a motorcycle licence.
You do have to sit a theory test if:

you have a licence from a country not listed above; or
you are converting a heavy vehicle licence from any country.
Practical test
You do not have to sit the practical test if:

you have a licence from Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom or the United States of America, and
your licence is current (or has expired less than 12 months), and
you have held that licence for more than two years.
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/56.html

[jrandom]

Didn't have the chance - I was already stopped...

"My cuzzy rode the bike here with me on the back and then we had an argument and he threw the keys at me and took off on foot and then the cops turned up and didn't believe a word I said cos they don't like bleck people and that's the honest truth yer 'onour so 'elp me God."

:pinch:

[Oakie]

He commented "Good to see you have your class 6." I replied "Well of course I have it - I'm riding a motorbike!" To which his reply was "Lots of people don't bother these days...."

Popped into our local bike shop on Saturday and ended up having a chat with one of the co-owners after Mrs Oakie spied a V Rod that took her eye. The co-owner was saying that she is actually surprised now when people wanting to take a big bike for a test ride actually have a full licence. Less than half wanting a bike over 250cc actually have the right licence. The surprising thing is that these are not kids. They are middle aged people who have had a L licence for a bike and never bothered to upgrade it.

[AndyOnTheFlyingBrick]

Thanks for the welcomes. If you have a british licence you can just convert it from the 1st of september without the need of a theory test.


Popped into our local bike shop on Saturday and ended up having a chat with one of the co-owners after Mrs Oakie spied a V Rod that took her eye. The co-owner was saying that she is actually surprised now when people wanting to take a big bike for a test ride actually have a full licence. Less than half wanting a bike over 250cc actually have the right licence. The surprising thing is that these are not kids. They are middle aged people who have had a L licence for a bike and never bothered to upgrade it.

were you in Just motorcycles by any chance? i saw a V rod in there when I bought my bike from Ian.

[Patrick]

Ahhhhh yesssss - shit - I see what you mean!!! So the correct answer was NO I DID NOT!!!

Too late... can't deny now.....:eek:


Thanks for the welcomes.

Heres another then... and a warning... watch out for that slofox fella... dodgy....

[slimjim]

hummm i too got told to carry me licence..as i didn't have it on me... did have old paper one .:lol:.. love it cause it really blow's away the younger copper's.:cool:.yes still have my first licence..:drool:. in awesome nick..

[Racer X]

what ..thought he'd at least have the balls to just pull up and say gid'ay..
why the fuck ask for your info... ya's had already pulled up chatting..:blink:

During their training police lose their ability to act like normal people.

Yeah he <b>could</b> have just chatted, but why miss the chance to issue a ticket??