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1vanvan1
18th September 2008, 20:36
Your on your motorbike riding along with a pillon on the back. Look in your mirror and see some punk ass teen, in his early 20's with his hat sideways glasses and looking like a right tosser, driving his car about 6 feet off the back of your bike. You pull over the left to let him pass. Look at him and shake your fist as he drives past meaning "what the fu@k are you doing?". Next thing you know he swerves across at you missing you by mare centimeters and making you swerve as well. You yell and him and signal for him to pull over. You pull over hes in front of you in his car. You hop of your bike. He jumps out of the car holding up his pants and yells "You wanna go c@nt" proceeding towards you.
Next part is up to you ...
McJim
18th September 2008, 20:43
Anyone starting a conversation with the following "Wanna have a go?", "you want a piece of me?", "What are you lookin' at?" isn't likely to see reason. Glaswegian instinct upon someone being stupid enough to voice their intentions in this way should receive a pre-emptive attack where the front of your helmet connects with the bridge of their nose.
Then you kick him in the stones and stamp in his legs once he's down THEN you ride off on your bike.:rofl:
However I would never gesticulate (shake my fist) in the first place. Using gestures and/or your horn is just asking for trouble. Cars are bigger, harder and a lot more deadly than bikes eh?
When I get cut up by a motorist I just try to find another route.
Drum
18th September 2008, 20:50
I'd like to think I'd be mature enough to let it go and move along.
In reality I think I'd open a can of McJim on his ass :girlfight:
T bone
18th September 2008, 20:59
I think when someone use's the words "wanna go c@nt" its lights out for that mofo. Don't forget to throw his keys into the bush before you ride off :girlfight:
MarkH
18th September 2008, 21:04
I think when someone use's the words "wanna go c@nt" its lights out for that mofo. Don't forget to throw his keys into the bush before you ride off :girlfight:
Only throw his keys away AFTER scraping them alongside the entire length of his car.
Grahameeboy
18th September 2008, 21:08
Your on your motorbike riding along with a pillon on the back. Look in your mirror and see some punk ass teen, in his early 20's with his hat sideways glasses and looking like a right tosser, driving his car about 6 feet off the back of your bike. You pull over the left to let him pass. Look at him and shake your fist as he drives past meaning "what the fu@k are you doing?". Next thing you know he swerves across at you missing you by mare centimeters and making you swerve as well. You yell and him and signal for him to pull over. You pull over hes in front of you in his car. You hop of your bike. He jumps out of the car holding up his pants and yells "You wanna go c@nt" proceeding towards you.
Next part is up to you ...
How is he a threat if he needs to hold his pants up...simple...get him to raise his fists, his pants fall down....you turn and run, he runs and trips onto his face...a little known Samuri trick when their swords were banned...do nothing and still win the bout...
avgas
18th September 2008, 21:10
A) deal with it when it happens.........get over it.
However i will ignore your whole bullshit story of how you own the road and go to the end.
BLAH BLAH BLAH.......young punk walks up to you and say "Wanna go"....what do you do?
Tell him what your issue is, if he throws a punch - duck and deck him. Go to court, do periodic detention.........
Dargor
18th September 2008, 21:12
Darwin had some good ideas, just make sure your the fittest.
So, following the words "wanna go cunt", you can assume hes on drugs and that your the fittest. But dont forget P, i hear people on P dont go down so easy.
Or you could be modern about this, give him a chance to redeem himself, and explain to him that you didnt apreachete his tail gateing. (gating?)
Then you could file a complaint at the cops about him.
AndyOnTheFlyingBrick
18th September 2008, 21:13
I voted to drop him.
However, I would not have waved my first at him as he went past as its only going to anger the car driver and your very vulnerable to their actions. You have to remember that even though he did something to piss you off, you need to keep your thoughts to yourself and just bite your lip!
But as mentioned above, if he had gotten out of his car then its likely he had already made up his mind he was going to do something foolish...so you may aswell do it first lol...
maybe
18th September 2008, 21:16
Ive always been bought up to pick my fights so if it had got that far I would of already decided to fight, most probably not the best idea
MIXONE
18th September 2008, 21:18
So what did you do with this teen who's in his twenties?
sinfull
18th September 2008, 21:18
Anyone starting a conversation with the following "Wanna have a go?", "you want a piece of me?", "What are you lookin' at?" isn't likely to see reason. Glaswegian instinct upon someone being stupid enough to voice their intentions in this way should receive a pre-emptive attack where the front of your helmet connects with the bridge of their nose.
Then you kick him in the stones and stamp in his legs once he's down THEN you ride off on your bike.:rofl:
However I would never gesticulate (shake my fist) in the first place. Using gestures and/or your horn is just asking for trouble. Cars are bigger, harder and a lot more deadly than bikes eh?
When I get cut up by a motorist I just try to find another route.
Tailgaters are a part of life when ya do the speed limit ! Shake ya fist at him is askin for trouble Dont ya think ? perhaps a shake of the head at the most !
Gesturing him to pull over after shaking ya fist lol keep ya helmet on and be ready to deal out the McJim justice !
roy.nz
18th September 2008, 21:32
Your on your motorbike riding along with a pillon on the back. Look in your mirror and see some punk ass teen, in his early 20's with his hat sideways glasses and looking like a right tosser, driving his car about 6 feet off the back of your bike. You pull over the left to let him pass. Look at him and shake your fist as he drives past meaning "what the fu@k are you doing?". Next thing you know he swerves across at you missing you by mare centimeters and making you swerve as well. You yell and him and signal for him to pull over. You pull over hes in front of you in his car. You hop of your bike. He jumps out of the car holding up his pants and yells "You wanna go c@nt" proceeding towards you.
Next part is up to you ...
You've got a helmet on and some carbon knuckled gloves plus boots. I would of kicked and beat the fuck out of him then tell him come get it c#nt.
Im young yes 22 but im not a dick like most of those guys and just hate these wanna be gangsta's and tough guys.
Little fuckers :mad:
But keeping your thoughts bout you would of been better.
ride Safe
firefighter
18th September 2008, 21:34
So what did you do with this teen who's in his twenties?
I second this question
Personally I would have told him why he saw me waving my fist, then if he still wanted to "have a go" after all of that then I guess i'd be forced to defend myself, after he'd already tried to kill me with his car.Followed very closely with a phone call.
1vanvan1
18th September 2008, 21:55
So what did you do with this teen who's in his twenties?
Well, I was the pillion in this event.
It wasn't really a shake of the fist as such. More just a unfriendly wave. You know the one. Its not like we flipped him the bird.
Secondly. I just stood next to the bike making sure he wasn't going to attack the bike. Also incase my mate got the beat down I was there to "assisst". Basically he ran over and did like a flying kick into my mate. Mate caught his leg and put him down on the grass. Then basically pinned him down on the grass and yelled shit like "What the f@ck is your problem" "You could have killed us" "You idiot". His excuse was if he wasn't home in 2 minutes the cops would be on his ass. Turns out he had a home detention braclet on his ankle and he was running late. Once he figured he was screwed he basically turned into a little cat saying sorry and all those sorts of things.
In hind sight we should of got his number plate and phoned the cops. But you know how it is when someone trys to run you down.
roadracingoldfart
18th September 2008, 22:25
So im still wondering why you both didnt give him a bloody good slapping.
Little pricks with attitudes annoy me to the max and i definately agree with "user pays " if you know what i mean.
Damaging his car makes you a vandal and thats silly but defending yourself with a damm good defence is never illegal if its with good intentions and not with malice.
Ohh and then call the cops to sort the ankle braclet wearing pissant out.
Tank
18th September 2008, 22:32
it was all over rover as soon as the bike and car were pulled over. If someone comes at you like that - I believe in getting in first / fast and hard.
Having said that - there can be a price to be paid - you may end up getting hurt because hes better than you or you win the battle but lose the war because you are in the wrong and would be considered the instigator in a court of law.
Trust me - its not worth it. Says me with GBH charge for the same thing that almost cost me my job years later when work wanted to transfer me to the US.
Its simply not worth getting in the situation. But IF you end up there - drop the fucker before he opens his mouth.
Gremlin
19th September 2008, 01:49
You've got a helmet on and some carbon knuckled gloves plus boots. I would of kicked and beat the fuck out of him then tell him come get it c#nt.
^ like he said... Now, it does depend on his size, I'm a pretty big bugger, but I'm not stupid enough to take on the likes of BarBender or his bro :blink:
If he's some normal punk, yep, he can come have a go, and by him coming to me, he's started it, I'm just finishing it. Then I call the plods to tidy up. :yes:
jtzzr
19th September 2008, 06:48
1st insticnt is to punch him so hard that should he have children in the future, his kids are born with blood noses.
But I`d like to think that us Kbers are a sensible bunch(yeah fuckin right)and would just let the little prick carry on with his pathetic life.
MIXONE
19th September 2008, 08:22
Thanks for answering my question and good on you both for not putting in the boot when he was down.The temptation would have probably been too much for me!Just a damn shame you didn't get his rego and inform the plod because if he was wearing a bracelet it's obvious he is already a crim/shithead and shouldn't be out in public anyway.
marty
19th September 2008, 08:29
oh you could have made his life SO difficult! without even touching him! don't suppose you got his rego?
scorry
19th September 2008, 08:47
drop him, he would have to be pretty good to hurt you when your wearing a helmet and all your bike gear.
oh and there was 2 of ya
maybe
19th September 2008, 08:57
While you had him pinned down the cops should of been involved, due to being on home detention an offence such as dangerous driving then an unprovocked attack on you guys (your word against his) let me see who do I believe, would of been enough to send him to jail pretty much immediatley as well. Never feel sorry for a shit bag crim as thats how they get away with there shit, his attitudes not going to change and next time the person might not be so lucky.
Oh well hindsight is a great thing
nico
19th September 2008, 09:26
hope you decked the lil shit bag wouldnt have gone 2feet without have to pulll gay pants back up neways and as mentnd b4 throw his keys away 2 bet he still at home with mummy 2:bleh:
Macktheknife
19th September 2008, 09:53
I applaud your restraint and I can't help but think, why did you let him go?
Road rage, careless use, perhaps dangerous use AND he assaulted you, taking a flying kick at you, the fact that it didn't have the intended effect is irrelevant.
In my view the only appropriate response is to beat him vigourously, and then hold him pending the arrival of the police. Preferably in a very uncomfortable position, guaranteed to induce significant amounts of pain.
Even if they decide not to charge the little scum, you will know that he got his just reward for his actions, a damn good beating. There is a tiny chance that this might have made him reconsider his actions in future, not much, but more than letting the little fucktard off with a snivelling apology.
vifferman
19th September 2008, 09:55
Mate caught his leg and put him down on the grass. Then basically pinned him down on the grass and yelled shit like "What the f@ck is your problem" "You could have killed us" "You idiot".
That was a good start.
Once he found out he "had to be home in like 2 minutes", the pinning down on the grass could have easily been extended for a little while....
firefighter
19th September 2008, 10:00
Well, I was the pillion in this event.
It wasn't really a shake of the fist as such. More just a unfriendly wave. You know the one. Its not like we flipped him the bird.
Secondly. I just stood next to the bike making sure he wasn't going to attack the bike. Also incase my mate got the beat down I was there to "assisst". Basically he ran over and did like a flying kick into my mate. Mate caught his leg and put him down on the grass. Then basically pinned him down on the grass and yelled shit like "What the f@ck is your problem" "You could have killed us" "You idiot". His excuse was if he wasn't home in 2 minutes the cops would be on his ass. Turns out he had a home detention braclet on his ankle and he was running late. Once he figured he was screwed he basically turned into a little cat saying sorry and all those sorts of things.
In hind sight we should of got his number plate and phoned the cops. But you know how it is when someone trys to run you down.
Whaaaa!!!! you didn't hold him there under citizens arrest, after nearly killing the two of you with his car and assaulting your mate? AND he was on Home Detention?!!!! you really should have held him there, called the boys in blue :Police:and just waited, he'd of really been fucked then, a couple more charges to add and being away from home, he might have finally made it to the big house and felt the wrath of big bubba!:shit: you fucked up on that one.:doh:
martybabe
19th September 2008, 10:30
So what did you do with this teen who's in his twenties?
Not as much of an oxymoron as you think, I am a teen in my fifties :lol:
Anyone starting a conversation with the following "Wanna have a go?",
.
He could have meant, Do you wanna have a go in my car lads? You kilties, so quick to turn a nice gesture into aggro :oi-grr: :lol:
felt the wrath of big bubba!:shit: you fucked up on that one.:doh:
Would you all please leave Big Bubba alone, he's a really nice bloke when you get to know him and talk through his anal and bashing problems, sheesh, fair go people.
.................................................. ..
My vote would have been hold the fooker there and awaited the cops, especially once you learned of his home detention thingy but it's easy with hindsight innit, not always thinking logically when someones just tried to wipe you up and then done a Bruce Lee on ya. I think you showed admirable restraint.
ManDownUnder
19th September 2008, 10:43
If possible grab his keys, ride off with them, or if there's no time, chuck them in the direction of something awkward... storm drain, over a hedge or into traffic.
imdying
19th September 2008, 10:51
Well, you'd have about buggered yourself then. You're not likely to get on the bike and ride away without a shove, which might put you over... You're not going to reason with any wigger like that, so you're only left with one option.
Strike first, strike hard... Kick him square in the nuts, or push his nose bone into his brain with an open palm strike to the face. Once you get him on the ground, keep battering him (either with kicks, gloved punches) till he looks like he's going to give up. Once he's in submission, use your helmet to batter him till blood runs from his mouth, nose and ears.
Then drive over him in his car.
:done:
imdying
19th September 2008, 10:54
I would not have waved my first at him as he went past as its only going to anger the car driver and your very vulnerable to their actionsThis is more relevant though... the point of what to do would be moot if:
a) you avoided the situation
b) he ran you over instead of pulling over
MarkH
19th September 2008, 11:31
Next part is up to you ...
What would I do, must be an illustration available . . . :kick:
EJK
19th September 2008, 11:39
I'll do all of em above
Try and reason with the "fellow"
Ask and try to negotiate. If that fails...
Drop/Deck him
Drop him...
...and then
Get on your bike and ride off
Ride away! :scooter:
Wet yourself thinking this might hurt
Then wet myself later... I would be happy if the Plan 1 succeeds, but if my plan 2 fails, then I'll just move onto Plan 4 :weep:
Bend-it
19th September 2008, 11:57
What would I do, must be an illustration available . . . :kick:
That has to be the best emoticon ever!! I'll need to remember that...
Yeah, on hindsight, you both have gear on, helmets etc... Push comes to shove, I'm not sure he has much chance... as demonstrated... :bash:
I wouldn't have gesticulated though... Wise old me... probably drop behind him and ridden the rest of the way with my high beam on. Or wait for a clear straight and take out his wing mirror on the way past. :woohoo:
MarkH
19th September 2008, 12:11
I wouldn't have gesticulated though... Wise old me... probably drop behind him and ridden the rest of the way with my high beam on. Or wait for a clear straight and take out his wing mirror on the way past.
I wouldn't have gesticulated, or put my high beam on, or attacked a wing mirror. I would have just waved him past at the first convenient time and let him go on his merry way. It's just not worth the potential risk of death to rark up other road users when you are vulnerable on 2 wheels while they are in a cage.
It is only IF it got to the point where we were both stopped and he got out of the car and was trying to attack me that I would have responded with whatever level of violence I was able to bring to bear - :kick::girlfight::bash::2guns::ar15::finger: :argue:
buellbabe
19th September 2008, 12:15
Gee I think I am the only female offering an opinion and that is the same as most have said already.
You are past the point of no return, you could try reasoning but that would depend on the size of him compared to you...I voted to deck him.
I had a road rage incident not so long ago and if I had kept my temper and not given the guy the bird I might not have had to ride off in fear for my life...
But that said... there is a time when getting the first shot in works wonders. My ex was riding along minding his own business ( just around the corner from home ) when a car with 3 dickheads in it thought it would be funny to try and force him off the road. BIG mistake. They had to stop at the next intersection and J pulled up beside them, didn't even get off his bike, just turned and smashed his fist thru the drivers window actually connecting with the drivers head. The 2 passengers uttered very un-macho squeals and jumped out of the car, taking off down the road...the driver didn't move as J calmly put the bike into gear and took off.
He reckoned he was so angry at the time that he didn't feel a thing but by the end of the day his hand was blacknblue! and bloody sore LOL. I'll bet those dudes thought twice about fucking with a bad-ass biker again...Not that I'm condoning violence but sometimes A-holes need to be taught a lesson.
pete376403
19th September 2008, 12:17
Carry a small handfull of old nuts and bolts in your jacket pocket.
While riding ahead of arsehole, sprinkle said nuts and bolts in your wake.
At 100k they should take out radiator, windscreen, headlights, etc.
("must have been some shit layin on the road, eh?")
pzkpfw
19th September 2008, 12:23
Yeah, on hindsight, you both have gear on, helmets etc... Push comes to shove, I'm not sure he has much chance... as demonstrated...
I had a mate who ended up lying on the road while a courier banged his helmet up and down on the road. (His head was still in the helmet at the time).
I forget what happened after. (i.e. if he went to court or anything...)
Drogen Omen
19th September 2008, 12:24
dec the cunt...
i got some nice gauntlet gloves with pointy shit sticking out the nuckles... hehehehe
now just need a helmet like saurumon of lord of the rings.... hehehehe
Bend-it
19th September 2008, 12:26
My ex... pulled up beside them, didn't even get off his bike, just turned and smashed his fist thru the drivers window actually connecting with the drivers head.
I think I'm in love... :love:
Wouldn't it have been embarrassing if the window held and he ended up with a sore hand right there?!?! :whistle: Of course, that wouldn't have happened with the real man that he is!! :hug:
Bend-it
19th September 2008, 12:27
I had a mate who ended up lying on the road while a courier banged his helmet up and down on the road. (His head was still in the helmet at the time).
I forget what happened after. (i.e. if he went to court or anything...)
Your mate obviously isn't anything like buellbabe's ex... :whistle:
buellbabe
19th September 2008, 12:37
There is a very good reason he is an ex... the word pyscho springs to mind but I must admit that I gave him the thumbs up for that particular choice of action.
jtzzr
19th September 2008, 20:14
I had a mate who ended up lying on the road while a courier banged his helmet up and down on the road. (His head was still in the helmet at the time).
I forget what happened after. (i.e. if he went to court or anything...)
That`s horrific , what kind of helmet was it?
CHOPPA
19th September 2008, 23:26
head butt with your helmet would work a treat! My gloves would make a mess as well!
carver
20th September 2008, 17:46
i would pull my 357 and cap his ass dawg!
c's up!
Forest
20th September 2008, 18:11
When I was a younger I would have taken him on.
Now I'm a bit older I'd try to avoid conflict. It is easy to play the Internet Tough Guy but he might have a screwdriver in his back pocket and motorcycle gear provides little defence against a screwdriver.
alanzs
20th September 2008, 18:38
I too would have probably had a go at him, when I was younger and much stupider. Now, being older and not quite as stupid, I would have made sure I would have gotten away from him quick. Some people don't value their or my life as much as I do, so I try to avoid those kind of situations.
Everyday waking up is a good day.
Jerry74
20th September 2008, 18:57
Hmmmm a slight tiff involving contact of the Shoei or Arai to his temple would be just right...
Then piss on his drivers seat
Wingnut
20th September 2008, 19:57
I too would have probably had a go at him, when I was younger and much stupider. Now, being older and not quite as stupid, I would have made sure I would have gotten away from him quick. Some people don't value their or my life as much as I do, so I try to avoid those kind of situations.
Everyday waking up is a good day.
I have found myself of late - having the same attitude. Since having children anyway. All the same, it would feel rather fullfilling to hand the little pricks ass to him on a plate. Its gotta be worth it though. Knowing my luck Mr Plod would pull around the corner at the most inappropriate time....:done:
mattian
20th September 2008, 20:05
I agree that any kind of gesticulations just aggrivate cagers. I have tried to "wave" people back from me when I have thought they were just a little too close for comfort and most of the time I just get the finger.
toycollector10
20th September 2008, 21:14
A polite wave back usually always works for me when some knob is tailgating me. Either when I'm on the bike or in the cage.
If push came to shove I'm not sure what I would do but I'm not going to lie down and roll over, that's for certain.
Then there's the "merging lane undertaker" that I will not tolerate. They just don't have a clue WTF they are doing because they are such crap drivers. It just doesn't occur to them that they are knob-end, cellphone texting, road users.
Trick.Import
20th September 2008, 21:50
just buy some Astar motard gloves with the big knarly kuckle protectors a hit with those would sort him out
klyong82
20th September 2008, 22:07
Take him out:2guns::bash::finger::ar15:
EJK
20th September 2008, 22:19
Take him out:2guns::bash::finger::ar15:
Thats when ATGATT comes in...
Irontusk
21st September 2008, 16:37
Carry a small handfull of old nuts and bolts in your jacket pocket.
While riding ahead of arsehole, sprinkle said nuts and bolts in your wake.
At 100k they should take out radiator, windscreen, headlights, etc.
("must have been some shit layin on the road, eh?")
Not to mention paintwork. I really like my car.. and damage to my car would piss me off.. BUT I don't tailgate or pass people when I shouldn't anyway, so I think I'm safe and that this guy deserved anything that could've happened to him. I agree that he should've been held down and done for the whole home detention/assault/reckless driving situation, with a few jabs and such on top to make you feel better :niceone:
{.bLanK}G_o_D
6th January 2010, 13:06
I've spent the last 5 years having to hold my tongue and avoid to the best of my ability any confrontation on the road as I drive around in a work cage with sign writing and the phone number stickered on the side. I would feel great satisfaction getting the chance to knock out some little punk ass piece of shit if he deserved it.
Last time i felt that good was when some dude booted my old RX7, well the good feeling came when I knocked him to the ground and introduced him to Mr steel cap! Hehe
McJim
6th January 2010, 13:13
I've spent the last 5 years having to hold my tongue and avoid to the best of my ability any confrontation on the road as I drive around in a work cage with sign writing and the phone number stickered on the side. I would feel great satisfaction getting the chance to knock out some little punk ass piece of shit if he deserved it.
Last time i felt that good was when some dude booted my old RX7, well the good feeling came when I knocked him to the ground and introduced him to Mr steel cap! Hehe
And you had to Necro this ol' thread to get that outta your system eh?
Deano
6th January 2010, 14:19
Wearing a helmet into a fight can be more of a hindrance. The opponent grabs you by the helmet and has leverage on your neck - you're fucked.
Try it sometime with a big mate and see how easy it is.
kiwifruit
6th January 2010, 14:22
I wouldn't have gestured at the driver to start with, especially not with a pillion.
Big Dave
6th January 2010, 16:34
I agree with take him out. But I wouldn't buy flowers or Candy.
oldrider
6th January 2010, 20:01
That guy could have been on home detention for stealing ....."motorcycles".......and you let him go! :confused:
My doctor says, I must rest ! :doh:
Conquiztador
6th January 2010, 22:53
Been there. But had the advantage of carrying a MC chain with a handle. And after one swipe over a bonnet the argument never eventuated...
EDIT: Still carry one. Just in case he comes back...
dipshit
6th January 2010, 23:06
Who would live in Auckland. :tugger:
LBD
7th January 2010, 02:13
Show him my fake NZ police ID and ask for his drivers license? Given his situation he would have right pooed is pants....
Or take Mc Jims tact and lead of with a carbon fiber reinforced liverpudlian kiss....
Or pull out your book of Morman and offer to share you faith with him?
Or just drop back a good safe distance and keep following him until his paranoia sets in ...
crazyhorse
7th January 2010, 05:56
I wouldn't be riding slow enough for any one to follow me that close :lol:
mansell
7th January 2010, 06:07
Lot of Macho Buillshit in this thread, the gentleman in question was obviously having a bad day and with an attitude like his is likely to get his arse kicked regularly.
I guess when he came out if his vehicle screaming it would be time to deal with it but one thing I recall from my wild youth is if you fight you will probably get hurt so the object is to avoid violence if possible. I must admit though to carrying a rolled up timing chain in the pocket of my leather when I was a teenager and the shock on the face of a driver who odjected to me lane splitting and tried to crush me against the neighbouring car, timing chain versus windscreen..... I'll leave the rest to your imagination
Pegasus
7th January 2010, 21:02
I would like to think that I wouldn't get myself into a situation like this.
Yeah right . I had a similar situation a couple of years ago, in my car stopped at lights when prat behind me wanted me to drive into the back of the car in front of me so he could make a free left turn. He didn't like my wave :finger: in responce to his repeated tooting of his horn, so followed me through the lights when they changed. I was probably very lucky that when he pulled over behind me, he saw the crazy :mad: chick jumping out of her car, and marching toward him, he must have thought it would be a good idea to drive away very quickly.
I vote Deck the Prat.
Flip
8th January 2010, 09:39
I might suggest don't get in these situations. Let him go. Take his number and report it to the cops, if he was on home D and the cops get a complaint its their job to follow it up.
If it turns nasty and you are concerned for your safety and you can't get away. Don't get into a fist fight you will only hurt yourself, just do what ever it takes to take him out in such a way he is disabled. A helmut in the hand makes a great weapon. Then call the cops.
A few years ago I was back ended at the Buckle-Tory st lights in Wellington. The plonker who hit me jumped out of his car and came at me at a million miles an hour all full of fists and fuck, I was still trapped under the bike at the time. With help I got out from under the bike and the red haze was just settling in. I just retained enough composure to push 111 on my cell phone at which stage the plonker jumped back in his car and fucked off. Well I had a funny real time conversation with the police emergency center and a short while later they came back with something like 'we have got him he is a disqualified driver and we are charging him careless causing and a whole lot of other things as well'.
Genie
8th January 2010, 10:02
I'd hope not to be in this situation but if I ever was...hit him first, hit hard and make sure he doesn't get up!!!
Big Dave
8th January 2010, 10:07
Count 1-2-3 Go.
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quickbuck
8th January 2010, 10:08
And you had to Necro this ol' thread to get that outta your system eh?
I didn't think it was that mad of a dredge... BUT realised we are 2010 now......
For me when I'm out on the bike, I don't go playing silly games with the silly cage drivers..... idiots like that will get their heads smacked in soon enough, and as a rider you don't even have to break a sweet.
A quick twist of the wrist usually sorts them out, and makes them feel real small.
The other day coming into Sanson i caught up to as cue of cars that were doing about 85 ( standard speed for the traffic of late).
There was a while lancer wagon, or equivalent japanese make of cage on the end of the cue.
So I simply went around him at 100 while i was on trailing throttle. Heaps of room, and no traffic on the passing lane coming the other way......
Anyhow, as we all rounded the bend he dropped it back to 3rd, and floored it to overtake me and the car in front of me.... coming into a 50 zone by this point.
Talk about feeling small... Him i mean, I just shrugged my shoulders and thought, "Your Petrol" (not to mention the oil that was being blown in my face).
Now a younger me may have thought "I have to get him back as soon as we get out of town" Thing is why?
As i say, don't play their silly games. Simply not worth it.
If you get somebody following close, remember you have better than 250hp per tonne on most bikes over 250 (and even some 250's), and a darn sight more maneuverable. just get out of their way, and leave them alone.
Mikkel
8th January 2010, 10:47
I'd hope not to be in this situation but if I ever was...hit him first, hit hard and make sure he doesn't get up!!!
With the risk of sounding sexist - as a female that is a pretty silly idea. Unless you've received martial training or have the significant upperhand size-wise your odds are crap.
Do a runner instead, its the safer bet. (in this case that would mean don't stop in the first place)
Genie
8th January 2010, 10:51
I have been known to fight my way out of a paper bag a number of times....right hook is quite lethal.
I wouldn't want to be in this situation, and would avoid it as much as possible... but if I happened to be ...I'd get in first...hard and fast. And, no matter how big the man....a knee jerk to the crutch still hurts like fuck.
peasea
8th January 2010, 10:58
[QUOTE=Genie;1129602363]I have been known to fight my way out of a paper bag a number of times...QUOTE]
Who put it on your head?
Mikkel
8th January 2010, 11:01
a knee jerk to the crutch still hurts like fuck.
On the other hand, if you miss or he's a tough cookie you'll just piss him off - and then the gloves come off. I know of a guy who got a kick to the nuts, went absolutely haywire and really fucked over the guy who'd done it. Once the deed had been done he puked from the pain - do not underestimate what adrenaline can do in this regard.
Genie
8th January 2010, 11:14
then i'd step back and let my big bad boyfriend beat the crap out of the little fucker!!!!!!!
Dean
8th January 2010, 12:00
#1 - Always go home and punch a punching bag to releive the stress you built up in that near fight situation.
#2 If you have a deadly right hook punch like mine get a real boxing bag not a chinese one or else you will rip it in half with one hit, see pics. :devil2::devil2::devil2:
Tank
8th January 2010, 12:47
#1 - Always go home and punch a punching bag to releive the stress you built up in that near fight situation.
#2 If you have a deadly right hook punch like mine
I always thought you had a deadly cha cha cha
Im pissed off so if anyone pushes my buttons.......a guy in a black holden commodore (police look a like) started coming right up behind me I told him to get back so he came even closer, I changed lanes he changes into that lane. I start pulling certain hand gestures he pulls it back with both hands so I made a detour to the docks carpark and he follows. I get to a stop, hop off my bike " you ****** *** the **** are you doing you wanna dance lets dance " we "dance", a lady hops out of her merc tries to stop us "dancing". I leave with a satisfied smile, justice served. Thats my rant for the day.
Dean, 1
Guy in commodore, 0
of course in these situations the first thing you have to do is rip off your shirt.
i know from first hand experience when i fight i always take of my shirt or t shirt
Tank
8th January 2010, 12:50
My more serious answer to "What would I do"?
Confrontations can escalate and when they do there is no knowing the end game - it dosnt take much for something to end really badly - like someone hitting their head on the curb, or some punk ass pulling a knife.
General rule - avoid the confrontation if at all possible. If its impossible - go hard and dont stop - fight as if your life was on the line - because it may be.
sugilite
8th January 2010, 13:15
I'd hold a referendum on whether the hand gestures were considered to be offensive enough for a shock and awe assault. Then I'd invite the other party to make their submissions on the matter. Once that was done I'd get out a little blanket and have a mini picnic on the side of the road, inviting the other party over for a spot of earl gray tea....with their cup being laced with arsenic. Quite simple really. :yes:
centaurus
8th January 2010, 13:47
Theoretically speaking, I know it's always best and recommended to try and defuse the situation but after being almost run over a car I KNOW I wouldn't be calm enough to do the right thing.
I would just take advantage of the fact that I have "armour" :D and put him down quickly with one punch. I've learned long time ago not to hit at the head - too dangerous. Punch/kick in the stomach which will put him down. Once down I would have a chance to breathe and calm myself down. Call 111 and keep him down until police arrive. Waiting for cops and claiming self defence would be much safer than leaving. It can backfire.
If he ends up getting up and starting again, a kick properly administered can easily break a knee/leg and keep him on the ground without endangering his life.
Genie
8th January 2010, 13:53
Theoretically speaking, I know it's always best and recommended to try and defuse the situation but after being almost run over a car I KNOW I wouldn't be calm enough to do the right thing.
I would just take advantage of the fact that I have "armour" :D and put him down quickly with one punch. I've learned long time ago not to hit at the head - too dangerous. Punch/kick in the stomach which will put him down. Once down I would have a chance to breathe and calm myself down. Call 111 and keep him down until police arrive. Waiting for cops and claiming self defence would be much safer than leaving. It can backfire.
If he ends up getting up and starting again, a kick properly administered can easily break a knee/leg and keep him on the ground without endangering his life.
You sound extremely level headed and wise. Have no bling left...so...****
duckonin
8th January 2010, 14:15
Gezzz this sounds like wife and I three weeks back prick tailgated us then tried to run us off the road also, sat behind him rather than in front after we pulled right across the road to identify him then dropped back, wife took his number five k's down the road a cop comming toward us was waved down quickly told the trouble off he went and yes he nailed the mutt, trouble was he could only do him for inconsiderate driving but it still cost him.....Could of cost us more though if he had taken out the front of the bike.....
AD345
8th January 2010, 16:44
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red mermaid
8th January 2010, 19:52
Turned out ok in this case, but you have to be careful out there.
From experience there is a lot of crazy bad people out there carrying all kinds of things round in their cars.
Is your life worth it?
Let them go back to the cess pond they come from and ignore them.
Genie
8th January 2010, 20:02
it's ignoring them that could be half the problem I, personally, don't think they should get away with crap behaviour.
Foxzee
8th January 2010, 20:09
it's ignoring them that could be half the problem I, personally, don't think they should get away with crap behaviour.
Watch out fella's she'll send all to the naughty corner to deal to ya's:laugh::laugh:
Big Dave
8th January 2010, 20:41
OT - but I have to respond. Viva Newcastle.
Hunter Street never recovered from the earthquake. The commerce moved to Charlestown and Normie gave up cruising and went surfing. The Patches moved to Maitland and up the Hunter Valley.
Still a good Pie Cart on Hunter Street, but the Bands are all in Beaumont Street now too.
This is the sound of the Newy I called home.
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CM2005
8th January 2010, 21:10
Anyone starting a conversation with the following "Wanna have a go?", "you want a piece of me?", "What are you lookin' at?" isn't likely to see reason. Glaswegian instinct upon someone being stupid enough to voice their intentions in this way should receive a pre-emptive attack where the front of your helmet connects with the bridge of their nose.
Then you kick him in the stones and stamp in his legs once he's down THEN you ride off on your bike.:rofl:
However I would never gesticulate (shake my fist) in the first place. Using gestures and/or your horn is just asking for trouble. Cars are bigger, harder and a lot more deadly than bikes eh?
When I get cut up by a motorist I just try to find another route.
I'll agree with Mr McJim here..
Dean
8th January 2010, 23:17
Like Frosty told me, every time you beat or kick some cagers head in - think of the chain effect or the 'six degree's of separation' they call it. This cager twists the story to get sympathy from his/her partner and family, they spread it to their friends, they're friends may be of all walks of life like Nick Smith! So next time you are out on your bike you could be riding near a person who heard about these incidents and labels you the same as the offender and they might just do something.....
Tank
9th January 2010, 13:03
Like Frosty told me, every time you beat or kick some cagers head in - think of the chain effect or the 'six degree's of separation' they call it. This cager twists the story to get sympathy from his/her partner and family, they spread it to their friends, they're friends may be of all walks of life like Nick Smith! So next time you are out on your bike you could be riding near a person who heard about these incidents and labels you the same as the offender and they might just do something.....
Chain effect and 6 deg of seperation are completley different things.
Still the point you make is valid.
Truth of the matter is tho - I doubt many on here have ever had a physical confrontation in their life - little less kicking someones head in.
Swoop
9th January 2010, 13:31
... as a rider you don't even have to break a sweet.
Yup. There is nothing worse than a broken moro bar.
a knee jerk to the crutch...
Picking on disabled people is a low thing to be doing. Shame.:nono:
FROSTY
9th January 2010, 14:09
First off I don't ever recomend going into a fight- period. Trouble is theres always someone meaner and nastier.Notice i didn't say bigger.
if you are in a situation where there is no getting out and fighting really is the only option Then use your palms not your fists. It hurts you less and is more effective, Knuckles break/get damaged suprisingly easilly. Avoid the mouth because saliva carries some bloody nasty germs that get into busted knuckles.
Get in close and hit like you mean it. dont namby pamby around HIT the bugger.
Again this is after all other options are exhausted.
To answer the OP's question what would I have done. If on a grunty enough bike most likely waited till he was outa the car and fucked off outa there. If he seemed to be following then head for the cop shop.
I do feel I have to ask of the 120 odd of you that said you'd drop/deck the guy how many of you have actually been in that situation and had to use violence?? Cos if you haven't I'd suggest you answer Other. You don't know what you will do untill in the situation where its fight or flight.
Woodman
10th January 2010, 15:49
This guy in the car must be thicker than pig shit!!!!
If he only had 2 minutes to get home to avoid being arrested for breaching home detention then why the fcuk did he stop for a bit of biffo.??
Panzerkampfwagen VI
15th January 2010, 08:44
I'd Glasgow Kiss him (Captain Head Butt) with me helmet on..............
Dean
16th January 2010, 10:10
Ohhhh lookie what I gotti
Now there wont be anymore pent up frustration on the bike.
I reccomend having a go before every ride.
CRF119
17th January 2010, 20:11
If your on a bike bike and your holding up a car its your own fault what ever happens.
tigertim20
17th January 2010, 22:04
Your on your motorbike riding along with a pillon on the back. Look in your mirror and see some punk ass teen, in his early 20's with his hat sideways glasses and looking like a right tosser, driving his car about 6 feet off the back of your bike. You pull over the left to let him pass. Look at him and shake your fist as he drives past meaning "what the fu@k are you doing?". Next thing you know he swerves across at you missing you by mare centimeters and making you swerve as well. You yell and him and signal for him to pull over. You pull over hes in front of you in his car. You hop of your bike. He jumps out of the car holding up his pants and yells "You wanna go c@nt" proceeding towards you.
Next part is up to you ...
smash his fuckin teeth through the back of his skull, fuck his mother, slap his father, and torch his car. but im an angry person!
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