A question for those of the "Tanned Variety"

[firefighter]

Ok here a question which will offend a lot of you- so if you easily get offended, don't read............

Upon moving to Massey from Whenuapai (hardly a large distance) Iv'e noticed the demographic somewhat change from predominantly white to more....black.
Ok no problem there, my question is-
Why is it, that those of you who are of the tanned variety (black/whatever) feel the need to try and intimidate those in other vehicles/people walking, by trying to stare down those in other vehicles/those walking along the road? Is it in your genes? Some sort of way of marking your territory? I have never come across this in such a degree before, in such a huge magnitude.....I get stared down alot. No reason, just stared at(you know your being watched right) you look back and a car full of nig.....um tanned persons glaring at you and won't budge their gaze, as if theyr'e waiting for you to react to thereby authorise a retaliation of epic preportions.......correct? no? whats the fucken problem? Sure Iv'e had this happen before, but not everyday. I'm not doing anything different, not being particularly threatening or offensive, can someone explain this idiotic shit to me?

Rant complete.

(preparing self for barrage of deeply offended mainly white people)

[Tank]

I must say - I find myself more aggressive after a session at the tanning salon.



edit - obv - tanning salons are for chicks and girlyboys- I dont actually go to one nor do I encourage others for health reasons.

[bomma]

by "tanned variety" do you mean polynesians, but your near-reference to "nig-" would presume an african american population.....

it's because that is what is viewed by primitive/un-evolved idiots as a sign of manhood....to stare someone down and protect your cohones.....my advice.....if you see someone tryna stare you down, just look away coz ultimately you are not that idiot and you are smarter (i hope) than that :niceone:

oh on another note, if a car with a couple of "homies" pulls up next to you late at night and they start to stare you down and shit or they un-neccessarily try to start trouble be careful as they prolly have a car-load of mates lurking nearby and the whole reason of their outing is to gang-bang some un-witting civilian

[firefighter]

I must say - I find myself more aggressive after a session at the tanning salon.



edit - obv - tanning salons are for chicks and girlyboys- I dont actually go to one nor do I encourage others for health reasons.

lol, yep no matter how I word the title someones gonna be offended I may as well have just written it how I meant it ......

[firefighter]

by "tanned variety" do you mean polynesians, but your near-reference to "nig-" would presume an african american population.....

it's because that is what is viewed by primitive/un-evolved idiots as a sign of manhood....to stare someone down and protect your cohones.....my advice.....if you see someone tryna stare you down, just look away coz ultimately you are not that idiot and you are smarter (i hope) than that :niceone:

oh on another note, if a car with a couple of "homies" pulls up next to you late at night and they start to stare you down and shit or they un-neccessarily try to start trouble be careful as they prolly have a car-load of mates lurking nearby and the whole reason of their outing is to gang-bang some un-witting civilian


Actually the area has a diverse range of polynesian/maori/etc, and it pretty much comes from all of them, and Yes obviously I ignore it, but it gets pretty frustrating and "old" after a while.

[imdying]

Typical traits of an inferior gene pool... fortunately it'll make them easier to identify when the time to administer the cleansing.

[mowgli]

They're probably just admiring your bike ... yeah right!

[nodrog]

they are hungry

[marioc]

"gotta smoke bro"

[Tank]

They're probably just admiring your bike ... !

for later.

[bull]

Maybe its the big white hood you keep wearing around with your white sheet. :shutup:

[Murray]

You could be just plain brute ugly

[Flatcap]

Was it these blokes?:

[vifferman]

Was it these blokes?:
Dodgy looking blokes. And the ones with orangey skin are dodgy-looking too.

[NOMIS]

Hey Fire Fighter

Im half cast Maori and not classed as tanned nor white, IM in between

I do no exactly what you mean massey is bad for that funny reading this,

Yesterday I got a ride home with a friend from the city ( work ) and he told me how him and a mate got follwed by a bunch of homie's.... story begins

The where heading up the hill on to royal road waiting at the red light by the off ramp for the motorway. there was a car across the intersection ( homies ) blocking the way.. A car coming down the hill beeped at them however as lights turned green my friend moved foward.

Homeis pull over half way onto the footpath and let my friend go by, then tail hime about 30cm from his bumper yelling abuse ( he had done nothing )
the pull up along side him and ask "G why you beep at me g".. he replied I didnt it was the car coming down, "are you sure g" are you sure why you beep for" .. I didnt beep" .. "g are your sure you better not be lieing " .. " IM f***ing sure aye, i didnt beep at you... " oh algood g.. begins to drive away STOP _ REVERSE . are you F***ING sure g because ill give you a hiding" .. yes im sure i didnt beep at you.

they take off as one leans out the window giving the fingre yelling abuse another throws a bottle.

I mean wtf good old massey aye. Now me being half cast I get staunched alot, I never look back or I smile .. yesterday at food town I got picked on by 2 looser bum laborers who tried to start a fight at foodtown Quay st while I was getting morning tea with a girl from work.. I mean wtf ( they where white and black )

[Devil]

I can stand that loser attitude. Fucking morons.

[Swoop]

.....I get stared down alot. No reason, just stared at(you know your being watched right) you look back and a car full of nig.....um tanned persons glaring at you and won't budge their gaze, as if theyr'e waiting for you to react to thereby authorise a retaliation of epic preportions.......correct? no? whats the fucken problem?
Try it without wearing a police uniform???

[firefighter]

Maybe its the big white hood you keep wearing around with your white sheet. :shutup:

lol, I take it your joking.

[firefighter]

You could be just plain brute ugly

erm, unless they come equipped with x-ray vision eyes to se through my helmet I don't think thats the issue....

[firefighter]

Try it without wearing a police uniform???

erm, what?

[riffer]

Maybe it's the way you look dude.

[firefighter]

Maybe it's the way you look dude.

I don't think so, I wear all sorts of different shit on my bike, and in the cage, sometimes i'm in uniform, sometimes i'm just in some jeans and a jacket, sometimes heading up to the shop in a jumper and shorts (yes I know not smart on the bike but whatever) And it happens no-matter what.Ok not always but enough for me to notice and have a rant, on my bike in my uniform I was stared down- not in an interested way, in a malicious way, I kinda thought they'd be a bit more respectful at least then, but nope.
I actually am starting to think it's because i'm white <_<

And as for those tags, if you really think this shit is racist then you haven't really read what's written here. ie. grow up abit.

[Forest]

Was it these blokes?:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=guido

[Shadows]

I question why you would choose to live in the shit pit to begin with.

[westie]

I question why you would choose to live in the shit pit to begin with.

OI!

Yea it kinda is a bit of trouble in there. Try ranui(hide your shoes!). My friend was walking to the shops, couple of nesian mystics pull their car in front of him and say "Ow what you doing in my hood bitch!".

Irony is he owns a house in that neck of the woods and they looked more intent on causing trouble than ever owning their own house or making the rent.

[puddy]

Ok here a question which will offend a lot of you- so if you easily get offended, don't read............

Upon moving to Massey from Whenuapai (hardly a large distance) Iv'e noticed the demographic somewhat change from predominantly white to more....black.
Ok no problem there, my question is-
Why is it, that those of you who are of the tanned variety (black/whatever) feel the need to try and intimidate those in other vehicles/people walking, by trying to stare down those in other vehicles/those walking along the road? Is it in your genes? Some sort of way of marking your territory? I have never come across this in such a degree before, in such a huge magnitude.....I get stared down alot. No reason, just stared at(you know your being watched right) you look back and a car full of nig.....um tanned persons glaring at you and won't budge their gaze, as if theyr'e waiting for you to react to thereby authorise a retaliation of epic preportions.......correct? no? whats the fucken problem? Sure Iv'e had this happen before, but not everyday. I'm not doing anything different, not being particularly threatening or offensive, can someone explain this idiotic shit to me?

Rant complete.

(preparing self for barrage of deeply offended mainly white people)
Why is it that those of you who are of the bleached variety (maggot/whatever) feel the need to be intimidated by anybody who is beige/whatever? Is it your skinny-arse genes? Something to moan/post about? Hahahahahahahahahaha ......HTFU!
I am of a beige persuasion, and yes, I hear you! I think it's too much Snoop Dawg, Boyz N Da Hood, US BS Pop Culture! It's funnier still getting 'stared down' by a couple of 18 year old white boys in a lowered Ga(y)lant with Snoop playing (sorry Snoop, it can't all be your fault), with their caps on backwards, wearing hoodies big enough to fit both of them in one of the hoodies, ...............you get the picture! It's a little scary, me being a 6'5" 135kg BLACK CUNT!
Since you're obviously Westie through and through, buy a Harley! All Westies, whether they be Maggots, Faggots, or Nigs love them!
PS, a message from The Hitcher-
they're - they are - NOT theyr'e
I've - I have - NOT Iv'e
It's your language White man! (Shit, any Nigger knows that!)

[PrincessBandit]

Try it here in Manurewa where that type of intimidation already comes from the little shits at intermediate! They start young, it continues through high school for most of them, and they are the product you see out on the street as obnoxious bully boys (and girls here too).

[scumdog]

Typical traits of an inferior gene pool... fortunately it'll make them easier to identify when the time to administer the cleansing.

True, regardless of colour it is the real sign of an insecure looser who wasn't good enough for looser school....

[idb]

I hate pricks in their Mercs and Lamborghinis that lift their little fingers when they're drinking their pinot noir out of their bordeaux glass.
Now that's intimidating when you're on your cheap Ducati with nothing more than a riesling in a champagne flute because your last hock glass fell off the tank and smashed earlier in the day.

Every part of the country's different I guess...

[twinkle]

I've lived in Massey for something like 22 years. To be honest I don't have a clue what you are on about :scratch:
I don't recall anybody intimidating me, people always looked a bit scared to be honest, like they were expecting me to start a fight with them :crazy: and i'm just a skinny white dude...





Upon moving to Massey from Whenuapai (hardly a large distance) Iv'e noticed the demographic somewhat change from predominantly white to more....black.
Ok no problem there, my question is-
Why is it, that those of you who are of the tanned variety (black/whatever) feel the need to try and intimidate those in other vehicles/people walking, by trying to stare down those in other vehicles/those walking along the road? Is it in your genes? Some sort of way of marking your territory? I have never come across this in such a degree before, in such a huge magnitude.....I get stared down alot. No reason, just stared at(you know your being watched right) you look back and a car full of nig.....um tanned persons glaring at you and won't budge their gaze, as if theyr'e waiting for you to react to thereby authorise a retaliation of epic preportions.......correct? no? whats the fucken problem? Sure Iv'e had this happen before, but not everyday. I'm not doing anything different, not being particularly threatening or offensive, can someone explain this idiotic shit to me?

[scumdog]

I hate pricks in their Mercs and Lamborghinis that lift their little fingers when they're drinking their pinot noir out of their bordeaux glass.
Now that's intimidating when you're on your cheap Ducati with nothing more than a riesling in a champagne flute because your last hock glass fell off the tank and smashed earlier in the day.

Every part of the country's different I guess...

I feel your pain brother, my goblet arsed off me Harley and my Chardon went tits-up at the McDonalds judder-bar today...

[jafar]

I feel your pain brother, my goblet arsed off me Harley and my Chardon went tits-up at the McDonalds judder-bar today...

Chardon :sick:
That shit isn't even good enough to be drain cleaner :argh:







:beer:

[MadDuck]

Hmmm at the moment I have two rather drunken darker skinned men in my street talking (aka shouting) about how much bigger a "black" one is and giving it to a white thing.

Time to move again I think.

[scumdog]

Hmmm at the moment I have two rather drunken darker skinned men in my street talking (aka shouting) about how much bigger a "black" one is and giving it to a white thing.

Time to move again I think.

Man, I can see why you chose that area to live in...chooiiice!!:Punk:

[MadDuck]

Man, I can see why you chose that area to live in...chooiiice!!:Punk:

Can anyone in the larger Auckland region lend me a firearm.? Target pratice will be quite an easy shot I am guessing.

[idb]

F*ck it, i've spilled my cheval blanc...and it's made me shout!!!!!!!!!!

[alanzs]

Y'all be sayn thair be OG homies heer in cracka land? I ax you, ware? Y'all fucking tweekn bad... :yes:

[smoky]

Why is it, that those of you who are of the tanned variety (black/whatever) feel the need to try and intimidate those in other vehicles/people walking, by trying to stare down those in other vehicles/those walking along the road? Is it in your genes? Some sort of way of marking your territory?...I get stared down alot. No reason, just stared at(you know your being watched right) you look back and a car full of nig.....um tanned persons glaring at you and won't budge their gaze, as if theyr'e waiting for you to react to thereby authorise a retaliation of epic preportions.......correct? no? whats the fucken problem? Sure Iv'e had this happen before, but not everyday. I'm not doing anything different, not being particularly threatening or offensive, can someone explain this idiotic shit to me?


I find this kind of stereotyping of people short sighted and rather boring – however you have highlighted a real issue, and not just for south Auckland; Being intimidated and stared down by groups you described as from the ‘tanned variety (black/whatever)’.

I wonder if there’s a real threat or it’s mostly imagined due to our insecurities and distrust of another culture - and our reaction only encourages them to do it more.
Mind you I don’t want to find out

Some marginalised people do actually feel like they have little control over their own destiny and future (wrongly or rightly) – and resent the control others can exercise over them, like; public servants, teachers, doctors, politicians, police have been predominately white middle class people who live in places like Whenuapai. So I guess it’s a buss for them to be able to intimidate us so easily and exercise some form of control over us.

Just musing

And by the way – I don’t think you’d know a real nig…. If you fell over one
And skinny ugly ginga males in hoodies intimidate and give me the shits, That’s why I avoid the South Island.

[scumdog]

F*ck it, i've spilled my cheval blanc...and it's made me shout!!!!!!!!!!

Your shout?

Make mine a double Laphoraigh eh!

[westie]

Fair call



Some marginalised people do actually feel like they have little control over their own destiny and future (wrongly or rightly) – and resent the control others can exercise over them, like; public servants, teachers, doctors, politicians, police have been predominately white middle class people who live in places like Whenuapai. So I guess it’s a buss for them to be able to intimidate us so easily and exercise some form of control over us.



And skinny ugly ginga males in hoodies intimidate and give me the shits, That’s why I avoid the South Island.

another fair call

[MadDuck]

I find this kind of stereotyping of people short sighted and rather boring

I know you are just musing but picture this.

You are a pale face white chick living alone and new neighbours move in. They are in the street as drunk as yelling profanaties and talking about the size of their dicks.

And this used to be such a nice neighbourhood.

[scumdog]

I know you are just musing but picture this.

You are a pale face white chick living alone and new neighbours move in. They are in the street as drunk as yelling profanaties and talking about the size of their dicks.

And this used to be such a nice neighbourhood.

It all sounds like Loosers Inc live nearby..and they live waaay far north for you - but for me it's all good!!

[idb]

It all sounds like Loosers Inc live nearby..and waaay too far north for comfort.

Yeah, you don't just talk about it, you go out and show the losers the size of your schlong!

[scumdog]

Yeah, you don't just talk about it, you go out and show the losers the size of your schlong!

Hmm, editted the original post BUT a flailing willy does terrorise those less white then me.:Punk:

Four months jail for running from me apparently :laugh:

[MadDuck]

It all sounds like Loosers Inc live nearby..and they live waaay far north for you

Put it down to cheap housing going here at the moment :shutup:

[scumdog]

Put it down to cheap housing going here at the moment :shutup:

So cheap genocide doesn't happen there too eh? p/t

[MadDuck]

So cheap genocide doesn't happen there too eh? p/t

Ha. Only once in 10 years actually

[Skyryder]

Use to get this sorta thing from street kids when driving busses. It's a 'gangsta' thing designed to intimidate. Feel assured that if this is what makes them feel superior it's their loss..............not yours. Failing that shoot :ar15::ar15:the fuckers.........that'll stop them.


Skyryder

[scumdog]

Use to get this sorta thing from street kids when driving busses. It's a 'gangsta' thing designed to intimidate. Feel assured that if this is what makes them feel superior it's their loss..............not yours. Failing that shoot :ar15::ar15:the fuckers.........that'll stop them.


Skyryder

The sad thing is: In their own minds they are winners, champions etc.
We will recognise them for the tossers they really are.

In 20 years they won't even be that flash - but sadly they will be too much of a loser to realise it...

And us tax-payers will be paying for their bad judgement..

[idb]

The sad thing is: In their own minds they are winners, champions etc........

In 20 years they won't even be that flash - but sadly they will be too much of a loser to realise it........

That's kind of enviable though, to go through life convinced you're a winner...it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks then.

[NighthawkNZ]

That's kind of enviable though, to go through life convinced you're a winner...it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks then.

I'm a winner... :rolleyes:

[firefighter]

I find this kind of stereotyping of people short sighted and rather boring

Well believe it or not, stereotyping didn't just pop up from no-where, funnilly enough it happened as a result of a common denominator.
And Apparently it was so boring it not only caught your attention you wrote a rather signifigant post on the subject.....

Now to clarify, those of you who assume I am one of west auckland (a true westie) and think I haven't travelled, i'm actually relatively new to the area, and to remove all doubt- I actaully served in the RNZN for 5 years, and lived in close quarters with MOSTLY islanders and maoris. So obviously I know not everyone can be lumped into the same category, and that generalisations are flawed, I just call it how I see it. FFS

[scumdog]

That's kind of enviable though, to go through life convinced you're a winner...it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks then.
Sadly the drooling twitching guys in wheel-chairs think the same through no fault of their own.

Even more sadly they never had the choice that the idiots I mentioned did...

BUt given the choice and chance those in the first catagory WOULD be winners.:Punk:

[Mr Merde]

Your shout?

Make mine a double Laphoraigh eh!


A little too peaty for my taste.

But each to their own poison

[idb]

I'm a winner... :rolleyes:

No...you're special...there's a subtle difference.

[scumdog]

A little too peaty for my taste.

But each to their own poison

You pleb.

I bet you even use rifles that require cartridges!!!

[idb]

You pleb.

I bet you even use rifles that require cartridges!!!

Back to the firearms...always the guns!!!!

[scumdog]

Back to the firearms...always the guns!!!!

Kinda a phallic enhancement eh??

You 'Johnny-long-schlongs' don't need that eh?

[idb]

Kinda a phallic enhancement eh??

You 'Johnny-long-schlongs' don't need that eh?

Well...we don't like to brag...

[scumdog]

Well...we don't like to brag...

Or shoot....

[alanzs]

Having been born and raised in Downey, California (next to South central LA) I must say I find the gangsters here much less intimidating than the real ones I was used to seeing. In places back in the L.A., many/most gangsters really do carry guns and use them regularly. While having any huge guy(s) giving you the death stare isn't fun, most here aren't true psychopathic killers. Here, they can get all tough, because they don't have to worry that I MAY be carrying my Glock 9 and not take their shit. Staring at someone can get you killed.

When my Masterton born and raised Kiwi wife came to LA in '94, she was shocked at the amount of gunfire that took place, every night. Usually a few dozen shots heard a night would be common, as were helicopters roaring overhead, police/ambulance sirens at all hours of the night. We were living in Venice, about a block from the boardwalk. Huge gang area, that they don't want the tourists to know about. I told her that New Years Eve we would hear hundreds of shots going off. She thought I was kidding, I wasn't. You'd hear rapid fire machine guns shooting.
There were a bunch of thugs that lived down from us. I knew a few of them and they weren't a problem. They spent their time fucking each other up. Most weren't there long anyways, as long jail terms and death is just part of the game.

Not making eye contact is just a way of life. New Zealand is much betta...

[imdying]

It's your language White man! (Shit, any Nigger knows that!)Hahahahha I like your style :rofl:

[jrandom]

I MAY be carrying my Glock 9

A 'Glock Nine'? Is that something like the legendary Glock Forty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIJOVD8hwY)?

:laugh:

[alanzs]

A 'Glock Nine'? Is that something like the legendary Glock Forty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIJOVD8hwY)?

:laugh:


Somebody really reads these (edit: my) posts? Like my American made Uzi. :shifty:

[Grizzo]

I find this kind of stereotyping of people short sighted and rather boring – however you have highlighted a real issue, and not just for south Auckland; Being intimidated and stared down by groups you described as from the ‘tanned variety (black/whatever)’.

I wonder if there’s a real threat or it’s mostly imagined due to our insecurities and distrust of another culture - and our reaction only encourages them to do it more.
Mind you I don’t want to find out

Some marginalised people do actually feel like they have little control over their own destiny and future (wrongly or rightly) – and resent the control others can exercise over them, like; public servants, teachers, doctors, politicians, police have been predominately white middle class people who live in places like Whenuapai. So I guess it’s a buss for them to be able to intimidate us so easily and exercise some form of control over us.

Just musing

And by the way – I don’t think you’d know a real nig…. If you fell over one
And skinny ugly ginga males in hoodies intimidate and give me the shits, That’s why I avoid the South Island.
Fark sakes!
Here comes the PC brigade. So busy trying to pretend we live in a land of fluffy candy floss and puppies to notice the crap that people who just want to live their lives peacefully go through.

[alanzs]

Fark sakes!
Here comes the PC brigade. So busy trying to pretend we live in a land of fluffy candy floss and puppies to notice the crap that people who just want to live their lives peacefully go through.

Did you mean "FUCK" sakes? Fark sounds like a cross between fuck and fart. :woohoo:

[jrandom]

Did you mean "FUCK" sakes? Fark sounds like a cross between fuck and fart. :woohoo:

The BDOTGNZA would like to point out that the correctly-written term is 'fuxache'.

[Grizzo]

You got it! It's a fuck fart.:yes:

[James Deuce]

FFS - For Fuck's Sake.

FFS. The funny thing between the "k" and the "s" is an apostrophe. The wee phrase means we are taking the name of "Fuck" in vain. But then he probably likes that.

[Grizzo]

FFS - For Fuck's Sake.

FFS. The funny thing between the "k" and the "s" is an apostrophe. The wee phrase means we are taking the name of "Fuck" in vain. But then he probably likes that.
Dont over think it, or you will pop something.

[James Deuce]

No thinking required, though I rather take umbrage with your perception that I would have needed to engage brain to come up with that.

[Grizzo]

No thinking required, though I rather take umbrage with your perception that I would have needed to engage brain to come up with that.
Here we go.
Sorry mate, didnt realise you where bored. I guess it makes you feel a bit better about yourself though.
:2thumbsup

[alanzs]

Here we go.
Sorry mate, didnt realise you where bored. I guess it makes you feel a bit better about yourself though.
:2thumbsup

Did you mean "were" bored? "Where" is a place? :woohoo:

[alanzs]

Here we go.
Sorry mate, didnt realise you where bored. I guess it makes you feel a bit better about yourself though.
:2thumbsup

It's only just begun... Welcome to the nightmare! :2thumbsup

[McJim]

The BDOTGNZA would like to point out that the correctly-written term is 'fuxache'.


FFS - For Fuck's Sake.

FFS. The funny thing between the "k" and the "s" is an apostrophe. The wee phrase means we are taking the name of "Fuck" in vain. But then he probably likes that.

It's actually a malady from over useage of Fax machines. It's called Faxache. As in "Use email for faxache!"

And about this thread it actually has nothing to do with the colour of their skin. Back in Scotland it's the pale skinny white ones you have to worry about. Amazing the number of big black gangster brothers that have been fucked up by wee Jimmy, Tosh, Malkie and their chibs 'n' shooters...and all because the black fellas dropped the 'R' from the word Gangster which marked them out as English and therefore fair game for a plunging (stabbing).

[Swoop]

It's funnier still getting 'stared down' by a couple of 18 year old white boys in a lowered Ga(y)lant with Snoop playing (sorry Snoop, it can't all be your fault)
I was quite concerned and had to re-read this part...

I know it normally "is my fault" but was wondering how anyone knew...:rofl:

(glad it wasn't me!)

[MadDuck]

You are a pale face white chick living alone and new neighbours move in. They are in the street as drunk as yelling profanaties and talking about the size of their dicks.

And this used to be such a nice neighbourhood.

As a follow up to this story. When I went to go to sleep last night there was a big punch up happening. I called Mr Plod. Hell I wasnt expecting a wagon and dog controller turning up. Thought I was back in Sarf Dorkland for a minute.

Big ups to the response time and calming things down.

[smoky]

Well believe it or not, stereotyping didn't just pop up from no-where, funnilly enough it happened as a result of a common denominator.
And Apparently it was so boring it not only caught your attention you wrote a rather signifigant post on the subject.....

Now to clarify, those of you who assume I am one of west auckland (a true westie) and think I haven't travelled, i'm actually relatively new to the area, and to remove all doubt- I actaully served in the RNZN for 5 years, and lived in close quarters with MOSTLY islanders and maoris. So obviously I know not everyone can be lumped into the same category, and that generalisations are flawed, I just call it how I see it. FFS

What ever - when you've got something new to say....... so predictable
:zzzz:

[MadDuck]

What ever - when you've got something new to say....... so predictable
:zzzz:

Actually at the risk of the wrath of some on here. I moved out of Auckland - (went to Tamaki College and brought up in a state housing area) to escape the kind of crap I experienced last night.

BUT I felt like I had gone back 10 years. So yawn away!

[mv.senna]

Ok here a question which will offend a lot of you- so if you easily get offended, don't read............

Upon moving to Massey from Whenuapai (hardly a large distance) Iv'e noticed the demographic somewhat change from predominantly white to more....black. Ok no problem there, my question is-
Why is it, that those of you who are of the tanned variety (black/whatever) feel the need to...stare down those in other vehicles/those walking along the road? Is it in your genes? Some sort of way of marking your territory? .....I get stared down alot. No reason, just stared at(you know your being watched right) you .....um tanned persons glaring at you and won't budge their gaze... whats the fucken problem? Sure Iv'e had this happen before, but not everyday. I'm not doing anything different, not being particularly threatening or offensive, can someone explain this idiotic shit to me?




*clears throat* :crazy:


....oh yeah, umm...cough, ahem ...sorry bout that staring and following you along the road business.....i just thought you were hot!! :drool:


(...n i wanted to see if u had a missus before i introduced myself....)


my bad.... :Oops:


...buuuut, so, umm, ya
wanna get together for a drink sometime hot stuff...? :blip:


(PT :devil2:)

[Deviant]

I'm a small part Maori and grew up in a very racist town with my dark skinned mother, Alice Springs in Central Australia. My mother speaks the Queen's English, and is very intelligent. Her and my father built a rather successful construction company, her on the books,, dad running the gangs of workers.
I just wanted to make sure you realise I had a typical successful white upbringing.

I had no concept of racism and didn't understand it until I got to NZ at 12.
Because the whites and browns mixed here, racism was more apparent. Where I lived, the blacks were smelly people who never washed and spent all day sitting around campfires in the bush, sitting in bars, or sitting in dried up river beds, always drinking and often bludging cash or cigarettes ("godda dolla blok? eh bloke, godda ciggy?").

The first thing I noticed about the brown people in NZ was they appeared much more social, and also much more aggressive.

They looked after each other, and yet were far more likely to snap and want to fight.

Honour was a big part of their culture, possibly because they tended to have little else of value, and there seemed to be a chip on their shoulders most of the time.

Being part Maori myself, I found it rather interesting the way they would judge me as a white guy, then when they found out my mother was brown, they would often then feel guilty and try to befriend me, thinking that this was a white guy who wouldn't judge them and may be of some use.

I found that the aggression and attitude problems tended to be only with the lower socio-economic brown people as well. The more successful ones blended in and were just like the successful whites- calmer, not out to make trouble, able to rationalise better, and happy with their place in the universe.

I now don't experience racism except in the poorer areas, so (this is for the OP) I think it's largely related to their poorer status and poorer family/social structure and upbringing, and only a small part genetic.

That's my 2c, plus change.

[MadDuck]

I now don't experience racism except in the poorer areas, so (this is for the OP) I think it's largely related to their poorer status and poorer family/social structure and upbringing, and only a small part genetic.

You missed the point of my posts obviously!

[Deviant]

I read and understood your posts, you misunderstood mine. It was aimed at Firefighter, the OP (original poster). Sorry for the confusion MadDuck.

[MIZXR]

I'm a small part Maori and grew up in a very racist town with my dark skinned mother, Alice Springs in Central Australia. My mother speaks the Queen's English, and is very intelligent. Her and my father built a rather successful construction company, her on the books,, dad running the gangs of workers.
I just wanted to make sure you realise I had a typical successful white upbringing.

I had no concept of racism and didn't understand it until I got to NZ at 12.
Because the whites and browns mixed here, racism was more apparent. Where I lived, the blacks were smelly people who never washed and spent all day sitting around campfires in the bush, sitting in bars, or sitting in dried up river beds, always drinking and often bludging cash or cigarettes ("godda dolla blok? eh bloke, godda ciggy?").

The first thing I noticed about the brown people in NZ was they appeared much more social, and also much more aggressive.

They looked after each other, and yet were far more likely to snap and want to fight.

Honour was a big part of their culture, possibly because they tended to have little else of value, and there seemed to be a chip on their shoulders most of the time.

Being part Maori myself, I found it rather interesting the way they would judge me as a white guy, then when they found out my mother was brown, they would often then feel guilty and try to befriend me, thinking that this was a white guy who wouldn't judge them and may be of some use.

I found that the aggression and attitude problems tended to be only with the lower socio-economic brown people as well. The more successful ones blended in and were just like the successful whites- calmer, not out to make trouble, able to rationalise better, and happy with their place in the universe.

I now don't experience racism except in the poorer areas, so (this is for the OP) I think it's largely related to their poorer status and poorer family/social structure and upbringing, and only a small part genetic.

That's my 2c, plus change.


Why do people always say it to do with wealth - take that how you want
NZ treats niggers like heros give them this and that - negro means black in lots of languages, nigger is the slang so therefore nigger can correctly refer to any dark skined scum....

All blacks have always been violent, I say it's because we won't let them eat each other anymore - give them back the right to eat 2 blacks a week and solve two problems with one feed.

[Deviant]

Why do people always say it to do with wealth - take that how you want
NZ treats niggers like heros give them this and that - negro means black in lots of languages, nigger is the slang so therefore nigger can correctly refer to any dark skined scum....

All blacks have always been violent, I say it's because we won't let them eat each other anymore - give them back the right to eat 2 blacks a week and solve two problems with one feed.

The Australian Aboriginals were a purely peaceful nomadic race with no violence other than as a punishment to those who broke social rules (eg: murderers, rapists, adulterers etc), until the great white man came along and decimated their race with guns, making it legal to shoot them until the 70's and introducing them to alcohol and drugs, and stealing their children to train as slaves and trying to breed or kill them out of existence.

Lets not talk about violence and race, because history has shown that the whites have been equally or more violent and cruel.

Nigger and Negro come from negroid and Niger, incorrect terms used to describe a Nigerian. It was used to describe all Africans, and was adopted by other English speakers to describe their own indiginous dark skinned people.

The Maori side of my family are largely in the education industry- teachers, headmasters, librarians and the like. There's a corporate account manager for an insurance firm, a few farmers, an IT engineer and a corporate technician for an ISP.

They judge people based on their achievements and attitudes- the things that define you as a person.

The Scottish side of the family are a bunch of narrow-minded drunks and hillbillies.

They judge you on how much you can drink, how many kids you can have, and how well you can fight.

This is a clear indicator that skin colour does not define the person, actions do.

[terbang]

I had no concept of racism and didn't understand it until I got to NZ at 12.


Well said Sir. Hard to believe that kiwis travel innit.


Why do people always say it to do with wealth - take that how you want
NZ treats niggers like heros give them this and that - negro means black in lots of languages, nigger is the slang so therefore nigger can correctly refer to any dark skined scum....

All blacks have always been violent, I say it's because we won't let them eat each other anymore - give them back the right to eat 2 blacks a week and solve two problems with one feed.

Not so well said Sir, even taking into account that your from CHC. I have never heard a more stupid and ignorant statement from anyone white, black, brown or even suntanned. Has to be a piss take as you really can´t be that stupid? Eh..?

[trumpy]

...All blacks have always been violent, I say it's because we won't let them eat each other anymore - give them back the right to eat 2 blacks a week and solve two problems with one feed.

If this is a suggestion that the converse is the case then you probably should have have paid more attention at school.....your history teachers weren't just trying to teach you a bunch of useless dates and facts, they were trying to give you a perspective (hopefully a balanced one).

Take a good hard look at European history both ancient and recent. From a "human rights" perspective it's a rather sad story of human behavior participated in by people with skins ranging from milky white to gently tanned.

[meteor]

Was reading this with interest... It aint a westie, or south AK issue. I was out for a run (on my feet) with my wife along Ti Rakau Dr, by Botany at about 9.20 this morning and a high ace van full of 'not quite locals' threw a bottle at us. Smashed on the ground just in front of us just missed showering us with glass. They all looked around to see if they got us so wasn't an accident... But I guess it was probably my fault... because I've got a job, pay my bills and yes you guessed it... I'm white!

[puddy]

Why do people always say it to do with wealth - take that how you want
NZ treats niggers like heros give them this and that - negro means black in lots of languages, nigger is the slang so therefore nigger can correctly refer to any dark skined scum....

All blacks have always been violent, I say it's because we won't let them eat each other anymore - give them back the right to eat 2 blacks a week and solve two problems with one feed.
All blacks? ALL BLACKS? Have you seen the South Africans play? Dirty! Dirty! Dirty!

[puddy]

Was reading this with interest... It aint a westie, or south AK issue. I was out for a run (on my feet) with my wife along Ti Rakau Dr, by Botany at about 9.20 this morning and a high ace van full of 'not quite locals' threw a bottle at us. Smashed on the ground just in front of us just missed showering us with glass. They all looked around to see if they got us so wasn't an accident... But I guess it was probably my fault... because I've got a job, pay my bills and yes you guessed it... I'm white!
Sorry! My bad! Didn't realise you were a fellow DR rider too. Will use the recycling bin next time!

[Patrick]

Ok here a question which will offend a lot of you- so if you easily get offended, don't read............

I do the "where are you looking" thing and turn to see what they are looking at as if it is beyond me... Look back at them, then repeat... then shrug my shoulders....


...sometimes i'm in uniform....,

Looks a little like ours - some can't read. So they think they are a car load of tough guys staring down a lone copper....

Shit, they can't even put their caps on straight or pull their pants up.... and wear sunglasses at night.....

[Indiana_Jones]

All blacks have always been violent

Africa is a prime example.

-Indy

[firefighter]

What ever - when you've got something new to say....... so predictable
:zzzz:

ohhhh, sigh, piss off mate, ffs I didn't invite you into this thread, if your so bored with it why are you even posting here......ya mutton.

[smoky]

ohhhh, sigh, piss off mate, ffs I didn't invite you into this thread, if your so bored with it why are you even posting here......ya mutton.

Do I really need to tell you that if you post dumb arse shyte on KB you’ll get dumb arse comments back, if you post comments that you know people won’t like then why be surprised if people post comments you don’t like – ya dick
If you're also to lazy or thick to read what people have previously posted before you make a comment - then why don't you **** off yourself.

I think the intimidation and violence in our society is an issue (previous post if you bothered reading it) but; at lest once a month some troglodyte starts an inflammatory thread that plays the race card - it’s getting as old hat and boring as Winston Peters

And for those who sent me some ‘red’ for my comments – you’re a bunch of hypocrites,
(and I don’t give a shit about ‘rep’.) :woohoo:

[imdying]

at lest once a month some troglodyte starts an inflammatory threat that plays the race card - it’s getting as old hat and boring as Winston Peters

And for those who sent me some ‘red’ for my comments – you’re a bunch of hypocrites,Fuck off to McRides then... :yawn:

(and I don’t give a shit about ‘rep’.) :woohoo:Me thinks the poor little girl protests too much :motu:

[smoky]

Fuck off to McRides then... :yawn:
Me thinks the poor little girl protests too much :motu:

Wow I’m just reeling from your quick retorts and intelligent wit….. not
Is that the best you’ve got???
I know 5 year olds with more linguistic ability than that.
I guess that’s about the mentality of people with views like yours and I shouldn’t expect you to have anything of substance to add to the conversation
:crybaby:

[firefighter]

Do I really need to tell you that if you post dumb arse shyte on KB you’ll get dumb arse comments back, if you post comments that you know people won’t like then why be surprised if people post comments you don’t like – ya dick
If you're also to lazy or thick to read what people have previously posted before you make a comment - then why don't you **** off yourself.

I think the intimidation and violence in our society is an issue (previous post if you bothered reading it) but; at lest once a month some troglodyte starts an inflammatory thread that plays the race card - it’s getting as old hat and boring as Winston Peters

And for those who sent me some ‘red’ for my comments – you’re a bunch of hypocrites,
(and I don’t give a shit about ‘rep’.) :woohoo:

Dude, like I said, if your not interested read something else, somewhere else, throwing around babyish insults and acting like an angry teenager isn't getting you anywhere.......yes I read your post, and replied to some of it, and I think I make a fair point, don't lose any hair over it.....I won't be responding to you anymore as you are obviously in-capable of handling an adult discussion.

[smoky]

Dude, like I said, if your not interested read something else, somewhere else, throwing around babyish insults and acting like an angry teenager isn't getting you anywhere.......yes I read your post, and replied to some of it, and I think I make a fair point, don't lose any hair over it.....I won't be responding to you anymore as you are obviously in-capable of handling an adult discussion.

I did reply to the subject, ignored the racism and commented on the intimidation - so why have a go at me. I have as much right to comment on your racist bull shit as you have to post it, I merely said it was boring - so get over your self, you and that half wit 'imdying'

[terbang]

Fuck off to McRides then... :yawn:

Why don´t you just fuck off back to NZSF where you can sit and peddle your drivel to... Oh yeah, yourself. At least then you may have an audience thats interested.

[terbang]

Wow I’m just reeling from your quick retorts and intelligent wit….. not
Is that the best you’ve got???
:crybaby:
A big ask mate. This one is particularly stupid.

[firefighter]

I did reply to the subject, ignored the racism and commented on the intimidation - so why have a go at me. I have as much right to comment on your racist bull shit as you have to post it, I merely said it was boring - so get over your self, you and that half wit 'imdying'

Explain why it is racist? (well the title is a bit rough i'll admit that but I couldn't change it), i'm just calling it as I see it mate- I'm not racist at all, i'm merely commenting on what I see - so what I SEE is considered racist? Yes I know the ODD car has the skinny white dude/s trying to do the same, but hardly comparable really-in numbers or intimidation level! (but equally rediculous/maybe a little more....lol) I think people are just too easily offended, and i'm sure everyone is entitled to a rant now and then......just as you are entitled to post here, but when you commented on how boring it is (I agree it is a common argument - but could there be a reason for that!?) it pissed me off because you had already dove in head first with your posts....so really you seemed rather interested....and just having a dig at me.

I'm not intentionally having a go at you i'm just replying to some things you said in what I thought was a fair manner and it's getting blown out of proportion......pretty quickly I might add.

[MisterD]

All blacks have always been violent,

I blame all that haka business before the match...

[smoky]

Explain why it is racist? (well the title is a bit rough i'll admit that but I couldn't change it), i'm just calling it as I see it mate- I'm not racist at all,

Whether or not you’re a racist is not the issue, I think nearly everyone can be racist at some stage.
I believe there was no need to use derogative racial colloquialisms of a objectionable inflammatory nature to make the point, and it gives racism a bad name
Perhaps because this is a bikers web site; base derogative language is somehow more acceptable? I’m not sure all ‘bikers’ on Kiwi Biker are of that ilk.


I think people are just too easily offended, and i'm sure everyone is entitled to a rant now and then.......
Who said I was offended ?? I wouldn't of read the thread if I was going to be that easily offended.


.. but when you commented on how boring it is (I agree it is a common argument - but could there be a reason for that!?) it pissed me off

The racist element of your post was boring
The original post makes a valid point about racial stereotypical reactions and intimidation, and my response questioned how much our own fears and responses as a community has contributed to that kind of behavior.
But no response from you or others on that point – you just focused on me saying that the racist element of your post was boring, the smallest part of my post.

[firefighter]

you just focused on me saying that the racist element of your post was boring, the smallest part of my post.

alright man fair enough.

[terbang]

Firefight, starting a thread about being stared down by others and specifying their race isn´t necessarily racist, commenting on crime statistics with regard to Polynesian or Maori isnt racist either. Its just facts. However it is the way that it is used and the language associated with it that makes the intention of the thread questionable. As a result of your language the thread has brought out the usual suspects (ignorants such as imdying and similar) who cannot resist the opportunity to jump in the bandwagon with their racist quips and rantings. Of course they try to dress it up as humour or cynicism or whatever. But realistically, their comments are more focused on degrading the race of your offenders, rather than their actions (staring you down). The thread, in its stupidity, rather embarrasses me in a world arena rather than it offends me as the title really reeks of racist tones.
I´ll freely admit, that as an ex patriot of many years, I find racism unacceptable and will always (predictably) oppose it. What dismays me the most is that in New Zealand I see a lot of (relatively) unfounded racism.
In the end mate, if being stared down is all you can bitch about, then life can´t be all that bad. Right?

[Jacko2]

Why do people always say it to do with wealth - take that how you want
NZ treats niggers like heros give them this and that - negro means black in lots of languages, nigger is the slang so therefore nigger can correctly refer to any dark skined scum....

All blacks have always been violent, I say it's because we won't let them eat each other anymore - give them back the right to eat 2 blacks a week and solve two problems with one feed.

Typical intellegent "White Trash" speak.

[reofix]

poor old firefighter... overpaid ... underworked .. living on 9/11 hero bullshit... get a life

[firefighter]

poor old firefighter... overpaid ... underworked .. living on 9/11 hero bullshit... get a life

Obviously your some pissed off volly who can't pass PAC day, maybe YOU should get a life- and by the way this is NZ- 9/11 didn't effect the way NZers view this profession.....as for overpaid and underworked? Excuse me your obviously totally ignorant........feel free to comment on my posts, disagree with it- but don't attack me or my profession, that just makes you look like a fuckwit, besides, what in the fuck do you do that makes YOU think your so special?

[firefighter]

Firefight, starting a thread about being stared down by others and specifying their race isn´t necessarily racist, commenting on crime statistics with regard to Polynesian or Maori isnt racist either. Its just facts. However it is the way that it is used and the language associated with it that makes the intention of the thread questionable. As a result of your language the thread has brought out the usual suspects (ignorants such as imdying and similar) who cannot resist the opportunity to jump in the bandwagon with their racist quips and rantings. Of course they try to dress it up as humour or cynicism or whatever. But realistically, their comments are more focused on degrading the race of your offenders, rather than their actions (staring you down). The thread, in its stupidity, rather embarrasses me in a world arena rather than it offends me as the title really reeks of racist tones.
I´ll freely admit, that as an ex patriot of many years, I find racism unacceptable and will always (predictably) oppose it. What dismays me the most is that in New Zealand I see a lot of (relatively) unfounded racism.
In the end mate, if being stared down is all you can bitch about, then life can´t be all that bad. Right?

Lifes great- and yeah I regretted the title straight away, but realised I couldn't change it.......There was no intention for it to sound racist, but sometimes there's no other way of putting things to get your point accross how you wanted it to sound. In fact the only reason I posted it was because I had it happen 3 times in one day!

[reofix]

if one firefighter says a foolish thing ... its still a foolish thing

[JATZ]

Get y'self a t-shirt with "wot chu lookin at willis" on it :rofl:
and maybe some reeeal god runnin shoes

[scumdog]

poor old firefighter... overpaid ... underworked .. living on 9/11 hero bullshit... get a life

Shee-it f/f, somebody that's got ya sussed!!!!:laugh:

[mv.senna]

....and a little girl waits....n hopes.....for some kind of reply to post #81!!! :whistle:,

but it's ok, i'm in no hurry, you boys keep bitching and sniping at each other from your respective soapboxes over implied inferences, mis-interpreted points of view, incorrectly used adjectives, nouns and general poor grammar and spelling.... coz that's waaay more important than overlooking any personal affront with the mechanism by which FF presented his concerns and actually acknowledging there are "issues" in our communities, getting off the soapbox, and getting out there to do something constructive to actually try and effect a positive change in your environment...

....nah. fk that... you guys keep bitching...it at least keeps me entertained while i wait for my reply (TO POST #81!!) ...


:laugh:


(PT :devil2:)

[Indiana_Jones]

poor old firefighter... overpaid ... underworked .. living on 9/11 hero bullshit... get a life


Obviously your some pissed off volly who can't pass PAC day, maybe YOU should get a life- and by the way this is NZ- 9/11 didn't effect the way NZers view this profession.....as for overpaid and underworked? Excuse me your obviously totally ignorant........feel free to comment on my posts, disagree with it- but don't attack me or my profession, that just makes you look like a fuckwit, besides, what in the fuck do you do that makes YOU think your so special?

I'm with firefighter on this one, if you don't agree with his viewpoint fair enough, but I fail to see how attacking his profession comes into the matter at hand :bash:

-Indy

[McJim]

I'm with firefighter on this one, if you don't agree with his viewpoint fair enough, but I fail to see how attacking his profession comes into the matter at hand :bash:

-Indy

How do we know what his profession is? I mean I don't actually McJim for a living but "Business Manager", "Accountant", "Commercial Manager" and "Marketing Manager" just seemed like silly handles for a motorbike forum.:rofl:

I'm still more afraid of little white guys than I am of big not white guys.

[Indiana_Jones]

How do we know what his profession is? I mean I don't actually McJim for a living but "Business Manager", "Accountant", "Commercial Manager" and "Marketing Manager" just seemed like silly handles for a motorbike forum.:rofl:

I'm still more afraid of little white guys than I am of big not white guys.

I REALLY am Indiana Jones!

-Indy

[Dargor]

No reason, just stared at(you know your being watched right) you look back and a car full of nig.....um tanned persons glaring at you and won't budge their gaze, as if theyr'e waiting for you to react to thereby authorise a retaliation of epic preportions.......correct? no? whats the fucken problem?

You should try..
like my artwork? He's supposed to be holding a sign.

[MIZXR]

Typical intellegent "White Trash" speak.

Oh shit shall I try this then, alright NZ government and the halfcaste so called maori that promote nigger enlightenment and attempt to furthwer the race -sepratist bullshite.

well NZ has spent millions of dollars on trying to educate these sepratist or so called maori - no success
Create bullshit "1986 halfcaste fucked created language" schools
created family confereces
winz funding - ok supposibly now for both underprivelegded races but debatable
violent offending , kids sent to school to steal, rather smoke ciggies and drink piss than help educate their kids because they can get state funding.

so does this mean the only way to fix this is to remove the children from these families as they pretty much have no hope - at least if you believe in the poor uneducated syndrom that annoys me so much?

If you really want I'll get some facts and figures so you can be like me and wonder why so much is just wasted in some feel good crud.

Fuck ya I coun't be bother correcting my shite spelling - I could have thou

[James Deuce]

Massive Over-Generalised Stereotyping FTW!

If this is middle NZ, Peter Dunne can have you!

I'm definitely voting Maori Party with my list vote now. :nya:

[dangerous]

just a few words from the southern end of the country... This gang wana be yank bulshit is geting rith down here to, these little fuckers wana be just like the gangs in the states, but here their life expenancy is more than a week and I realy think they are to thick to relise the seriousness of this.

I find myself getting more anti horries every day, why... cos I dont get threatened by honkies, I dont get abuse from honkies (except my mates) I have black mates aswell older people that havnt grown up listening to the fucking black rap shit and I include slim shady hes just as bad but all fucked up cos he dosnt relise hes white.

They drive around chch looking for trouble just like Dorkland but not to the same extent Id say due to population.
Next door is a housing corp house with young 20yr old blacks, they sell drugs, they hurl abuse at ALL the neighbours looking for trouble (little cunt even took on the 1week to go before droping a sprog white chick on over the road last week, all she was doing was some gardening) the abuse to the kids is amazing... ther is no hope for them, the dogs are beaten up (Ihave managed to get 1 removed from them but its unlikely it will get to a new home)
Yes I see bandana's being worn in cars pulling up fuck me 1 night at 10pm a fight broke out 1 BB yelling at another "you dont belong in this hood nigger" IMO none of the fucks do... Im helping to pay for ther SkyTV their house their income, and that pisses my off.

IMO... its mostley drug related that fucking shit they call 'P' and untill the coppers put a unit togeather to anialte and inprison those cought up in it (like christ sakes that dumb white bitch Holmes, lock her up)

I thing the world is going backwards... soon the skinheads and boot boys will be back, I used to dislike them as much, but maybe now I will welcome them.

[idb]

blah blah bullshit blah....
Fuck ya I coun't be bother correcting my shite spelling - I could have thou

Betcha couldn't!

[idb]

poor old firefighter... overpaid ... underworked .. living on 9/11 hero bullshit... get a life

Everyone has to do something for living, good on FF for at least going out and getting a job as shitty as it might be.
We can't all be lucky enough to pass the intensive training and get a job in the sought-after concrete industry.

[firefighter]

Shee-it f/f, somebody that's got ya sussed!!!!:laugh:

hahaha, yeah he's got me all figured out there.........:shit::laugh:

[MIZXR]

Betcha couldn't!

$50 says that word would sort my spelling

[MIZXR]

The Australian Aboriginals were a purely peaceful nomadic race with no violence other than as a punishment to those who broke social rules (eg: murderers, rapists, adulterers etc), until the great white man came along and decimated their race with guns, making it legal to shoot them until the 70's and introducing them to alcohol and drugs, and stealing their children to train as slaves and trying to breed or kill them out of existence.

Lets not talk about violence and race, because history has shown that the whites have been equally or more violent and cruel.

Nigger and Negro come from negroid and Niger, incorrect terms used to describe a Nigerian. It was used to describe all Africans, and was adopted by other English speakers to describe their own indiginous dark skinned people.

The Maori side of my family are largely in the education industry- teachers, headmasters, librarians and the like. There's a corporate account manager for an insurance firm, a few farmers, an IT engineer and a corporate technician for an ISP.

They judge people based on their achievements and attitudes- the things that define you as a person.

The Scottish side of the family are a bunch of narrow-minded drunks and hillbillies.

They judge you on how much you can drink, how many kids you can have, and how well you can fight.

This is a clear indicator that skin colour does not define the person, actions do.


You sure you discribed your family the right way around:eek5::yes:

Whats with the racist sepratism in your comments? Maori side what a load of shite you mean your cross bred side cause they are more white than black nowdays:woohoo:

negroid = black being like humanoid = human being
Nigeria was renamed to this name after other countries used the word negro as a colour
blancho or something similar meant white so in a columbian prison a negro blancho would be a white nigger or wigger. can't find my old lanuage books or I could say what language

[imdying]

As a result of your language the thread has brought out the usual suspects (ignorants such as imdying and similar) who cannot resist the opportunity to jump in the bandwagon with their racist quips and rantingsAhhhh, such ignorance... anyone that knows me knows that I hate all peoples and races equally.

It's true I don't like darkies that feel that have to stare down and intimidate everyone that moves through 'their hood', but I don't like the white trash that does it either. Admittedly on the face of it there appears to be greater numbers of little dark skinned wannabe gangsters running about than fair skinned ones, but that doesn't make me hate the white ones any less. Actually, that's a lie... if that was all it was, I'd happily leave them to their squalor, but the 'messing with' of other peoples lives for no reason at all isn't just confined to their own haunts.

I'd go as far as to say I don't actually give a crap what colour they are. It's merely a convenient way to group and label them when having a rant. I'm sooo wery sowwy if that upsets you as being generic, typecasting, narrow minded, lazy, bigoted, or whatever. You're a complete retard if you think that 'Hating on niggers that just wanna fight' means I think all dark skinned people are just looking for a fight. That's like thinking people that 'Hate Asian drivers' hate all Asians. Get a fuckin grip :weird:.

I do love that my attitude fucks you off so much though. Go on, feed us some shitty cliche about feeling sorry for me, or that I'm not worth your time, or some such rhetoric :rolleyes:

The reality is, the observations by the OP are accurate. There's nothing racist about that, it's just the way it is... and why should NZers have to put up with intimidation from any sector of society anyway?

[Morcs]

As soon as you turn down Moire road from Luckens road its all over.

[firefighter]

As soon as you turn down Moire road from Luckens road its all over.

hahahahahaha, yes exactly mate exactly! :clap:

[Morcs]

hahahahahaha, yes exactly mate exactly! :clap:

Soo... move to the other side of luckens then :D its allll good.

[NighthawkNZ]

I simiply don't like any one... makes life so much easier...

[idb]

I simiply don't like any one... makes life so much easier...

You do so...you're a lovely human bean you are...

[James Deuce]

Ahhhh, such ignorance... anyone that knows me knows that I hate all peoples and races equally.



Our employer demands it.

[Murray]

Go on, feed us some shitty cliche about feeling sorry for me, or that I'm not worth your time, or some such rhetoric :rolleyes:




I feel sorry for you and your not worth my time, sigh, sigh rolleyes

Real bugger that I agree with everything you said. Does this mean I feel sorry for myself???

[terbang]

just a few words from the southern end of the country... This gang wana be yank bulshit is geting rith down here to, these little fuckers wana be just like the gangs in the states, but here their life expenancy is more than a week and I realy think they are to thick to relise the seriousness of this.

I find myself getting more anti horries every day, why... cos I dont get threatened by honkies, I dont get abuse from honkies (except my mates) I have black mates aswell older people that havnt grown up listening to the fucking black rap shit and I include slim shady hes just as bad but all fucked up cos he dosnt relise hes white.

They drive around chch looking for trouble just like Dorkland but not to the same extent Id say due to population.
Next door is a housing corp house with young 20yr old blacks, they sell drugs, they hurl abuse at ALL the neighbours looking for trouble (little cunt even took on the 1week to go before droping a sprog white chick on over the road last week, all she was doing was some gardening) the abuse to the kids is amazing... ther is no hope for them, the dogs are beaten up (Ihave managed to get 1 removed from them but its unlikely it will get to a new home)
Yes I see bandana's being worn in cars pulling up fuck me 1 night at 10pm a fight broke out 1 BB yelling at another "you dont belong in this hood nigger" IMO none of the fucks do... Im helping to pay for ther SkyTV their house their income, and that pisses my off.


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When you people Sth of the Waimak eventually manage to stand erect and the calluses on your knuckles have faded, you may come the realise that the world is a continually changing place and that some people may actually be different to you.

[terbang]

Ahhhh, such ignorance... anyone that knows me knows that I hate all peoples and races equally.

It's true I don't like darkies that feel that have to stare down and intimidate everyone that moves through 'their hood', but I don't like the white trash that does it either. Admittedly on the face of it there appears to be greater numbers of little dark skinned wannabe gangsters running about than fair skinned ones, but that doesn't make me hate the white ones any less. Actually, that's a lie... if that was all it was, I'd happily leave them to their squalor, but the 'messing with' of other peoples lives for no reason at all isn't just confined to their own haunts.

I'd go as far as to say I don't actually give a crap what colour they are. It's merely a convenient way to group and label them when having a rant. I'm sooo wery sowwy if that upsets you as being generic, typecasting, narrow minded, lazy, bigoted, or whatever. You're a complete retard if you think that 'Hating on niggers that just wanna fight' means I think all dark skinned people are just looking for a fight. That's like thinking people that 'Hate Asian drivers' hate all Asians. Get a fuckin grip :weird:.

I do love that my attitude fucks you off so much though. Go on, feed us some shitty cliche about feeling sorry for me, or that I'm not worth your time, or some such rhetoric :rolleyes:

The reality is, the observations by the OP are accurate. There's nothing racist about that, it's just the way it is... and why should NZers have to put up with intimidation from any sector of society anyway?.
Such a good result and twas so easy too. Green from me for that.

[Patrick]

...The reality is, the observations by the OP are accurate. There's nothing racist about that, it's just the way it is... and why should NZers have to put up with intimidation from any sector of society anyway?

Sums it up. It is exactly how I saw it. The title has been explained. It can't be amended.

Guess you can't please every one all of the time type of thing....

[Deviant]

You sure you discribed your family the right way around:eek5::yes:

Whats with the racist sepratism in your comments? Maori side what a load of shite you mean your cross bred side cause they are more white than black nowdays:woohoo:

negroid = black being like humanoid = human being
Nigeria was renamed to this name after other countries used the word negro as a colour
blancho or something similar meant white so in a columbian prison a negro blancho would be a white nigger or wigger. can't find my old lanuage books or I could say what language

No need to get personal. If you're judging me based on my blood without having ever even met me, then I think you need to re-evaluate what matters in a person.

How would it feel if you found your cousin was part Maori or Tongan?

I do agree that certain areas are predominantly darker in the complexion of the locals, and that these areas are often rougher, but this is definitely not due to the skin colour.

Try passing through the rougher areas in London, or Moscow, and see how many of the scariest faces there are white.

I personally blame the gangsta rap culture and the ease of access to benefits. Forcing people into very low paid work for the community would encourage people to find work for themselves or set up their own businesses.

In Singapore, if you have no job, they give you a bucket and mop and make you clean the public toilets for your benefit. Unemployment is about 1%.

If they can do it, I'm sure we could too, and it would sort out a lot of the attitude problems that cause the problems mentioned in this thread.

[alanzs]

Forcing people into very low paid work for the community would encourage people to find work for themselves or set up their own businesses.

Does selling drugs count? :doh:

[Deviant]

It worked in the US- they made a rule that you get a total of 5 years of your life on benefits in some state(s).

There was a rule of 3 years sickness and 2 unemployment, with a maximum 3 months on unemployment at one time and I think 9 on sickness, with proof required.

After 9 months, you get booted off, and insurance is required.

Almost all people affected have said it was good for them and they are happier, healthier and wealthier now that they are earning their keep and staying out of trouble by being at work.

[Quartermile]

Ok here a question which will offend a lot of you- so if you easily get offended, don't read............

Upon moving to Massey from Whenuapai (hardly a large distance) Iv'e noticed the demographic somewhat change from predominantly white to more....black.
Ok no problem there, my question is-
Why is it, that those of you who are of the tanned variety (black/whatever) feel the need to try and intimidate those in other vehicles/people walking, by trying to stare down those in other vehicles/those walking along the road? Is it in your genes? Some sort of way of marking your territory? I have never come across this in such a degree before, in such a huge magnitude.....I get stared down alot. No reason, just stared at(you know your being watched right) you look back and a car full of nig.....um tanned persons glaring at you and won't budge their gaze, as if theyr'e waiting for you to react to thereby authorise a retaliation of epic preportions.......correct? no? whats the fucken problem? Sure Iv'e had this happen before, but not everyday. I'm not doing anything different, not being particularly threatening or offensive, can someone explain this idiotic shit to me?

Rant complete.

(preparing self for barrage of deeply offended mainly white people)

I feel deeply offended by this question, and my cultural and spiritual rights as a "tanned one" are under threat.
Why is it you whities think you can come sailing down to our Aoetearoa and walk around our streets whic we made from flax and not be hated. Being the people of the land we have worked long and hard to build this country into the place is is today, just to have you sail down and take our hard earned money through the DOLE, and DPB.
I think due to the surcumstances we have the right to stare youo down and try to 'encourage' you to get back on your boats and go home.

[sAsLEX]

Nigger and Negro come from negroid and Niger, incorrect terms used to describe a Nigerian. It was used to describe all Africans, and was adopted by other English speakers to describe their own indiginous dark skinned people.






I think the intimidation and violence in our society is an issue (previous post if you bothered reading it) but; at lest once a month some troglodyte starts an inflammatory thread that plays the race card - it’s getting as old hat and boring as Winston Peters


Should we bury our head and ignore the problem instead? No on can look at the stats and say that some races are more prevalent in crime, violence, prison population, unemployment.........

[scumdog]

When you people Sth of the Waimak eventually manage to stand erect and the calluses on your knuckles have faded, you may come the realise that the world is a continually changing place and that some people may actually be different to you.

True.
And they can be as different as they want to be.
But when they are 'different' to the point they are stealing from me and my family, when they intimidate and are violent to us AND they keep holding their hand out for the tax-payer funded Govt hand-outs they can eff-off to somewhere that appreciates them and their ilk for their 'difference'

I'm with Dangerous with this.

[MIZXR]

No need to get personal. If you're judging me based on my blood without having ever even met me, then I think you need to re-evaluate what matters in a person.[/QUOTE]

Only slightly personal, depends if your blood is NZ'er or Maori or European?



How would it feel if you found your cousin was part Maori or Tongan?

Dammit I do have part Maori cousins and they are good people who have an incredible ability to drink piss but one of them who sadly rides a harley. Almost got smacked over a few time with my ex's extended family and their fucked beliefs. Still had to bait them.



I do agree that certain areas are predominantly darker in the complexion of the locals, and that these areas are often rougher, but this is definitely not due to the skin colour.


True it the culture and seems to hang aroung the black parts of town more
Still plenty of shitty white areas.



Try passing through the rougher areas in London, or Moscow, and see how many of the scariest faces there are white.


Than a maori in face paint with his toung stuck out .... are you sure?



I personally blame the gangsta rap culture and the ease of access to benefits. Forcing people into very low paid work for the community would encourage people to find work for themselves or set up their own businesses.

Na before rap started gettin a hold, back when a government decided to fuck with a "happy blend" and start giving special treatment to get votes.



In Singapore, if you have no job, they give you a bucket and mop and make you clean the public toilets for your benefit. Unemployment is about 1%.
If they can do it, I'm sure we could too, and it would sort out a lot of the attitude problems that cause the problems mentioned in this thread.

Na the first thing that needs to be done is to relise that Moari have died out and remove the cultural divide instead of using it, and change the attitude to actually fixing the culture of some societies in NZ.

[Whynot]

Try passing through the rougher areas in London, or Moscow, and see how many of the scariest faces there are white.

This seems a valid point, however i would say the rougher parts of london are still full of mostly african descended people ....
Have yet to go to Moscow