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rocketman1
30th September 2008, 19:27
Just thinking what I will upgrade too from my SV1000S. I prefer, like a new 2008-2009 Suzuki SV1000S sports bike but with, Suzuki and Honda both cutting supply of these bikes, means I will have to save more money and buy a Ducati 1000.
I cannot understand these two large companies not being able compete with Ducati.
In the absence of a replacement looks like I will be turning red in future, may be not a bad thing.
Maybe I will keep the SV and buy a Ducati as well. $$$$ ouch
Forever a V-twin Fan.

Mike748
30th September 2008, 19:30
Get a Jap import Ducati, ....... perfect compromise!

DMNTD
30th September 2008, 19:33
Just thinking what I will upgrade too from my SV1000S. I prefer, like a new 2008-2009 Suzuki SV1000S sports bike but with, Suzuki and Honda both cutting supply of these bikes, means I will have to save more money and buy a Ducati 1000.
I cannot understand these two large companies not being able compete with Ducati.
In the absence of a replacement looks like I will be turning red in future, may be not a bad thing.
Maybe I will keep the SV and buy a Ducati as well. $$$$ ouch
Forever a V-twin Fan.

Cruise over one day(Tauranga) and I'll send you out of several differing Duc's and shall give a straight up opinion on what may suit your needs.

98tls
30th September 2008, 19:33
Just thinking what I will upgrade too from my SV1000S. I prefer, like a new 2008-2009 Suzuki SV1000S sports bike but with, Suzuki and Honda both cutting supply of these bikes, means I will have to save more money and buy a Ducati 1000.
I cannot understand these two large companies not being able compete with Ducati.
In the absence of a replacement looks like I will be turning red in future, may be not a bad thing.
Maybe I will keep the SV and buy a Ducati as well. $$$$ ouch
Forever a V-twin Fan. Why a Ducati,nothing wrong with them (couldnt possibly be) but theres a host of other very desirable v2 options.

lostinflyz
30th September 2008, 19:35
what about a KTM. those new superduke R's are sexy beasts. if not pricey.

Wingnut
30th September 2008, 19:36
Why a Ducati,nothing wrong with them (couldnt possibly be) but theres a host of other very desirable v2 options.

HHHmmmmmmmmmmmmm RSVR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

johan
30th September 2008, 19:38
Oh yes Ducati ve-twin! :Punk:

But I am, what you may call... 'biased' :eek:

Wingnut
30th September 2008, 19:40
Hmmmmmmmmmm RC8!!!!!!!!!:niceone:

Marmoot
30th September 2008, 19:41
There's a cheap ducati alternative called 848
I heard it performs very well.

Cajun
30th September 2008, 19:42
japanese nothing really - suzuki meant to be releasing a new vtwin next year, but if it happens is another story.

still plenty of opinions is ducati, aprilia(rsvr), ktm, really depends if you want a full fairing bike, or a semi faired, or naked,

the rsvr is pretty much superseeded by the rsv4 that is due out next year. So might be able to get one from dealer for good price,
Ducati plenty to choose from really depends if ya want full fairing, naked, and engine size 800,900,1000+ etc.
ktm got two to choose from superduke, and the rc8.

There is some other twins around if ya think of it bmw, but don't think those are what you are wanting

98tls
30th September 2008, 19:47
If it had to be a Duc aside from an old SS bevel i wouldnt mind one of these.....any one would do.

McJim
30th September 2008, 19:53
If it had to be a Duc aside from an old SS bevel i wouldnt mind one of these.....any one would do.
Who's gonna follow you with fuel?:rofl: you couldn't get between petrol stations in the Catlins.

98tls
30th September 2008, 19:55
japanese nothing really - suzuki meant to be releasing a new vtwin next year, but if it happens is another story.
Really?Got any links?Found the SV not to my liking and thought it a shame they never built a sorted TL (settle SV owners i mean something along the lines of a bike that.........na fuck it cant be bothered explaining:laugh:)

Ocean1
30th September 2008, 19:56
There is some other twins around if ya think of it bmw, but don't think those are what you are wanting



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Cajun
30th September 2008, 19:57
Really?Got any links?Found the SV not to my liking and thought it a shame they never built a sorted TL (settle SV owners i mean something along the lines of a bike that.........na fuck it cant be bothered explaining:laugh:)

no links, just rumor mill at moment, local dealer told me same thing(few months ago), and with suzuki already releasing details of some 2009 models, might not happen, meant be something a bit more sportbike releated(aka tl, than sv), but when it happens is another story

98tls
30th September 2008, 19:59
Who's gonna follow you with fuel?:rofl: you couldn't get between petrol stations in the Catlins. No worries,wouldnt take it downunder you lot would think it a red sheep and do...........:shit:well what you lot do with white sheep.:shit::confused:

Marmoot
30th September 2008, 20:10
eye candy....

Jerry74
30th September 2008, 20:12
Join the Desmo brigade... buy a duke

98tls
30th September 2008, 20:16
Join the Desmo brigade... buy a duke Or dare to be fashionably unfashionable and buy a Super Duke.Reds so damn boring and after a few lattes your likely to jump on the wrong one.

DMNTD
30th September 2008, 20:20
Reds so damn boring and after a few lattes your likely to jump on the wrong one.

Agreed....so I bought a bleck one!


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Jerry74
30th September 2008, 20:22
Agreed....so I bought a bleck one!

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Verrrrry nice 1098 there love it in black

98tls
30th September 2008, 20:23
<_<Theres always a smart bastard<_<:laugh:Very nice mate,so nice in fact i cant slag it off so there ya go.:shifty:

DMNTD
30th September 2008, 20:27
<_<Theres always a smart bastard<_<:laugh:Very nice mate,so nice in fact i cant slag it off so there ya go.:shifty:

Of course I'm a smug f00ker...it comes with the bike...just like the latte holder :tugger::blip::whistle:

McJim
30th September 2008, 20:30
[B]...it comes with the bike...

I hope you wiped it off. :rofl: That is so sexy and makes me wish I was wealthy. At least mine is no longer a bolognaise jigsaw puzzle.<_<

98tls
30th September 2008, 20:33
Of course I'm a smug f00ker...it comes with the bike...just like the latte holder :tugger::blip::whistle: Sadly mate if given the opportunity i would gladly swap it (as undeniably gorgeous as it is) for the old mans 78 900 SS without blinking an eyebrow,yea i know being oldish is sad.:pinch:

McJim
30th September 2008, 20:35
Sadly mate if given the opportunity i would gladly swap it (as undeniably gorgeous as it is) for the old mans 78 900 SS without blinking an eyebrow,yea i know being oldish is sad.:pinch:

Mike 'The Bike' Hailwood's IOM bike? :gob:

DMNTD
30th September 2008, 20:38
Sadly mate if given the opportunity i would gladly swap it (as undeniably gorgeous as it is) for the old mans 78 900 SS without blinking an eyebrow,yea i know being oldish is sad.:pinch:
I'd blink a couple of times but would prolly make a similar choice if there was a '74 Norton Commando involved as long as i also had a yeeeee haaa bike as well as.

98tls
30th September 2008, 20:45
I'd blink a couple of times but would prolly make a similar choice if there was a '74 Norton Commando involved as long as i also had a yeeeee haaa bike as well as. He had plenty of Nortons when i was a young fella including a gorgeous light mettalic blue 850 but the one i remember most was a 650SS he restored to perfection,is in some motor museum up in Auckland last i heard,gorgeous old bike.Anyway apologies to the thread starter as i seem to have basterdized it.:sleep:

98tls
30th September 2008, 20:49
Mike 'The Bike' Hailwood's IOM bike? :gob: Not quite,more like this.

MVnut
1st October 2008, 07:39
Some choice to make?? .........there can be only one .....DUCATI

Her_C4
1st October 2008, 07:47
Maybe I will keep the SV and buy a Ducati as well. $$$$ ouch
Forever a V-twin Fan.

Good call :2thumbsup Is this your lucky day :whistle: - I just happen to have a rather tasteful 1098 for sale to the right owner!

linky thingy (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=75296)


Oh yes Ducati ve-twin! :Punk:

But I am, what you may call... 'biased' :eek:

Hmmm me too!! ;)

scracha
1st October 2008, 13:50
Dunno why I thought of DeMouNTeD when I saw this?
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AllanB
1st October 2008, 14:13
My Suzuki dealer said he heard a rumor of a 1200cc V-twin HONDA.

My Honda dealer knows nothing of this.

My Honda dealer is also a Ducati dealer. He has lots of v twins. Heaps actually of preloved ones as they do not appear to be moving.

The SV has been dumped due to it not meeting some tree-huggers gas emission standards. VTR will follow - I suspect NZ is cleaning out the Honda warehouse.

As to replacements - that depends on how well these two sold on the global market - went well in NZ but thats not enough to support a model.

It will be a dam shame if they do not keep a V-twin in their line-ups.
But then Honda could pull out a V-5 or get that VTR up to 1000-1200cc :sunny:

Hey you could always buy a Harley - I understand that they make a couple of tidy V-twins.

rocketman1
1st October 2008, 17:58
Cruise over one day(Tauranga) and I'll send you out of several differing Duc's and shall give a straight up opinion on what may suit your needs.

Hey buddie I may take you up on that, thanks for the offer

rocketman1
24th October 2008, 19:15
I have heard this before but I cannot believe, that Suzuki cannot meet the same standards for emissions as Harley and Ducati, KTM etc this must be bullshite
Ive heard about a 1200 Vtwin Honda too, maybe to match the 1200cc Ducati 1098, but it is only that some made up rumour..

johan
24th October 2008, 19:28
I have heard this before but I cannot believe, that Suzuki cannot meet the same standards for emissions as Harley and Ducati, KTM etc this must be bullshite
Ive heard about a 1200 Vtwin Honda too, maybe to match the 1200cc Ducati 1098, but it is only that some made up rumour..

Every Ducati I've owned, three different bikes now, have been running crazily lean when using the factory tuning. They have been spitting, popping and coughing. They are also very high geared.

From what I understand, this has to do with meeting the emission and noise standards. After you richen them up and gear them better, they are very smooth and nice to ride.

I doubt a properly tuned Ducati will meet any standard. :)

Jerry74
24th October 2008, 19:36
All Ducati's sound good to me, dry rattly clutch and lots of growl = perfect combination

Dooly
25th October 2008, 09:57
All Ducati's sound good to me, dry rattly clutch and lots of growl = perfect combination

Yeah! I've fitted an open carbon clutch cover to mine.
The engine now sounds like someone is shaking a metal tin of marbles at idle!
People have come up to me with looks of horror on their face, thinking the motor is ready to explode.:niceone:

lanci
25th October 2008, 10:27
Ducati's have the best sound. I don't know how they do it but they sound better than the rest............ So based on sound get a Ducati, otherwise take some for a testride.

rocketman1
25th October 2008, 19:45
Ducati's have the best sound. I don't know how they do it but they sound better than the rest............ So based on sound get a Ducati, otherwise take some for a testride.

Yeah I agree, but all Ducati's it depends on the exhaust system, I have heard some Duc's that sound like shit, My SV with Yoshi's has a pretty nice sound, so all the others say, but the new Ducati's have a sound that is absolutely music to my ears, it is a sort of muffled sound without being raspy or crackled, I wonder if I put Ducati mufflers on the Suzuki SV1000S whether it give the same sound, after all it is still 2 / 500cc cylinder banging away in the same format, with different pipes.
I must say the more I listen to V twin sportsbikes the more I dislike the sound of the Harley V- twin cruisers, yet I used to like the Harley sound, it some sounds very agricultural in comparison.
I have put my baffles back in my Yoshis, not quite the same sound but keeps the neighbours happier.

Jerry74
25th October 2008, 21:39
Hahaha I have Yoshi on my Kawasaki and it really pisses the neighbours off.

How will they cope when the Termis are on the Ducati soon.

P.S Get a Ducati you can't go wrong.

martybabe
25th October 2008, 22:05
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:laugh: He don't say a lot but he's got a point, dem buells is mighty fine twisty machines.

Winston001
25th October 2008, 23:10
My Honda dealer is also a Ducati dealer. He has lots of v twins. Heaps actually of preloved ones as they do not appear to be moving.



There are a lot of Ducatis for sale in NZ or so it seems when browsing Trademe. I assume that the imports from Japan are building up in the market. They still sell at a higher price than Japanese marques. Maybe buyers hesitate because Ducati used to have a reputation for being expensive to service and temperamental.

DMNTD - any thoughts?

Anyway all good if you are looking to buy one.

scracha
26th October 2008, 08:16
Yeah! I've fitted an open carbon clutch cover to mine.
The engine now sounds like someone is shaking a metal tin of marbles at idle!
People have come up to me with looks of horror on their face, thinking the motor is ready to explode.:niceone:

"Your clutch cover is broken son" .... bwhahahahha .

Umm....considered a Honda SP2 or a V4.

pritch
26th October 2008, 08:26
I doubt a properly tuned Ducati will meet any standard. :)

That sort of matches what I've read in the Brit bike mags. The testing authorities in Bologna are not too ummmm demanding(?) of Ducati. Ducati are regarded with something approaching reverence on their home turf.

There was one interview with a Ducati factory rep and when asked the question about how they got their bikes through the testing, he just smiled...

Fatjim
26th October 2008, 11:26
this last year I'v gone from a VTR, to an SV to a Tuono.

The Tuono is in a different league as you'd expect. What a bike!

If you want value, I don't think you can go passed an 07 Tuono or superduke. Slightly different bikes, but similar enough so thats it really down to personal preference. Both bikes are being done a wicked deals at the moment too especially the Tuono.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-170012436.htm for example.