Aftershock (8.30pm Wed 8 Oct) TV3

[Big Dan]

Who will be watching and do you think there will be a few people that ring up 111 in a panic causing chaos

I'll be watching as i have a passion for natural disaters such as this

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4719392a1860.html

[CRM]

Yeah it was really well done, well acted and pretty convincing. Must have had a big budget too. We pretty much take for granted this won't happen but it shows how unprepared we are. Glad I don't live in wellington any more...

[nodrog]

i didnt see the end, did that kid get his arsed kicked for stealing his old mans car?

[sinfull]

i didnt see the end, did that kid get his arsed kicked for stealing his old mans car?

Him and the bloke with the dog got shot by a vigilante for breaking into a chemist to find insulyn for some dude that had died by the time they got to jville !

[nodrog]

Him and the bloke with the dog got shot by a vigilante for breaking into a chemist to find insulyn for some dude that had died by the time they got to jville !

that will learn the theiving little cunt!

[Maha]

Yeah it was really well done, well acted and pretty convincing. Must have had a big budget too. We pretty much take for granted this won't happen but it shows how unprepared we are. Glad I don't live in wellington any more...


Well acted??
You really think so? I thought the acting was average at best, think I said at one satge ''fuck that acting is shit''....case in point, in the office scene, just after the earthquake had stoped, someone yelled out ''im trapped, theres something on my legs and I cant move'' someone replied '' stay there, dont move''... mmmmm following a script I know but that was funny. The out door scenes were really well done. Wonder if there will be some cheap real estate in Wellington around the sea level area?

[Naki Rat]

Well put together doco I thought. Don't think the nonsensical outbursts were so much bad scripting as an accurate rendition of people spinning out mentally to a really bad situation.

Had to smile about the closing line regarding parliament having been moved to Auckland. Off of a fault line and into a field of dormant volcanoes, and with a roading system that is already disasterous :doh:

[<Rhino>]

Had to smile about the closing line regarding parliament having been moved to Auckland. Off of a fault line and into a field of dormant volcanoes, and with a roading system that is already disasterous :doh:

Yeah that was funny, I thought the same thing :laugh:

I thought it was really good, very thought provoking. I have been to a disaster zone to assist and its pretty damn messy. The accuracy of the infrastructure issues was well highlighted last night and it makes you realise that you will be without assistance for well over the three days they tell you to prepare for (the further away from the city the worse you will be I think) . It also highlighted the fact that you may well survive the earthquake but you wont survive the disaster if your not ready

[The Buzz]

I thought it was a really well put together doco in terms of making you think and take heed of some of the messages that it contained.

Everytime it cut to the news presenter though, with his breaking news slots, I did wonder about the poor sods who didn't know the programme was on, changed channel to TV3 just at that stage and then started freaking out that it was true! I wonder how many calls to TV3 or emergency services there were?

[NighthawkNZ]

i didnt see the end, did that kid get his arsed kicked for stealing his old mans car?


No he got shot for stealing drugs... well trying (help) getting some diabetic insulin for a stranger..

[davebullet]

Him and the bloke with the dog got shot by a vigilante for breaking into a chemist to find insulyn for some dude that had died by the time they got to jville !

Well, I believed it until they got to the supposed Chemist at the Newlands shopping centre. I'm pretty sure there is no Chemist at the shopping centre, and the place they tried to break into is an A/V repair shop.

I also thought the Tsunami happened way too late after the quake. The tsunami wave travels bloody fast and would have hit the land within a couple of minutes... seemed to be more like 10+ in the film.

.. but I get the point (that I am not really prepared)... as I write this from the top of the State tower!

[F5 Dave]

The only thing I think it failed to do was point out that it could be any town, ok Wellington is at risk, but on this thin island there are no earthquake safe areas.

Hopefully this will get some motivated to build up some food & water & shelter materials

[Maha]

One thing they failed to mention was, how many died.
Why was that?
8.2 Quake? Is that what 'they' beleive the magnitude would be?
I doubt it...how the hell would anyone know that satistic? They couldn't even agree on how high the tidal wave was..5/6/8 mts?? Five times greater than Napier and possibly the biggest ever recorded, yeah go Wellington!
Im not sure 1000's of families will rush and buy the supplies needed going on last night viewing. 1000's of families cant afford that kind of outlay. Its like the Y2K Bug thing of 99'..what a load of crap that was, some people made alot of money from those who bought into it.
Na when the time comes, do what it takes to survive for just over a week and by then, emergency services will be on hand to help those that survived.

I was a little dissapointed in the show.....and things wont change, everyone will get on with it and carry on as normal.

Its like on here...something bad happens to a biker and some start saying ''be carefull out there''...and most just carry on they way they always have.

[NighthawkNZ]

The only thing I think it failed to do was point out that it could be any town, ok Wellington is at risk, but on this thin island there are no earthquake safe areas.


yup NZ is one big Earth Quake zone... the joys of living on the Pacific Ring of Fire




One thing they failed to mention was, how many died.
Why was that?
8.2 Quake? Is that what 'they' beleive the magnitude would be?
I doubt it...how the hell would anyone know that satistic? five times greater than Napier and possibly the biggest ever recorded, yeah go Wellington!


I believe the quake that hit Npaier was a lot deeper, and off shore...

The fault line that they were talking about in the drama... is a major fault line


''im trapped, theres something on my leas and I cant move'' someone replied '' stay there, dont move''...

In reality thats probably what you would say... you would be suprise in the time of heat or in the moment what goes through your brain... Then look back and think well why did I say "Don't move..." he can't...

Doctor sees you have a in obvious pain... "Are you in pain..."
"No the pain is in me..."

[MSTRS]

Well, I believed it until they got to the supposed Chemist at the Newlands shopping centre. I'm pretty sure there is no Chemist at the shopping centre, and the place they tried to break into is an A/V repair shop.



Did you mean you believed it was real? :no: Or that it was believeable?
Who cares if details weren't as reality? I doubt would Mana be wiped out by a tsunami from that epicentre, when the whole of the south coast around to Makara is sheltering Mana from any direct wave force.
I had to laugh at the old biddy...walks into the bathroom of that house up the hill, sees the dead fat guy in the bath, shrugs and drops her bloomers to have a pee on the toilet just across the room.

[F5 Dave]

. . . Its like the Y2K Bug thing of 99'..what a load of crap that was, some people made a lot of money from those who bought into it. . . Yeah but that was obvious to most tech savy people. So are you saying you don't believe that an earthquake could happen because Y2K was a farce? in your heading it would appear contrary.



. . . Im not sure 1000's of families will rush and buy the supplies needed going on last night viewing. 1000's of families cant afford that kind of outlay. . .
Well you're probably right, . . . but some will. Ask me where I've been at lunch? - ok I've went & got another 20L container, tarp, torches & some more canned food. (That was $30 all up). Yes I already had a bunch of the stuff, but it struck me how long it will take to get help, how will you go without water for a week? Hope it rains a lot & keep your mouth open? You could spend that at the pub without trying & make life a lot happier if reqd.

It is all about chance. There is a chance it will happen, there is a chance we will survive to have to cope with it. No plan is failsafe so I'm not being smug about it. I might not be able to get home. But if my family is then it's a start & a responsibility. You'll be begging & looting. Might buy a gun as well eh?:2guns:

[Maha]

Yeah but that was obvious to most tech savy people. So are you saying you don't believe that an earthquake could happen because Y2K was a farce? in your heading it would appear contrary.

Not compairing the two events, Y2K was going to happen and did happen, all of a sudden it was Jan 1st 2000.
An earthquake can happen anywhere. Nobody can say when. Here in NZ? Bay of Plenty gets them all the time etc. What I beleive is, last nights show was a dramatisation of what ''those in the know'' beleive could happen. An 8.2 shake???....yeah lets make it an 8.2, never been done before.
I was looking forward to the show and it didn't quite measure up for me to be honest.

It was a bit like 'The Posiden Aventure' in a way (which by the way, could also happen)

Smoking can cause cancer, it doesnt always!

[F5 Dave]

Of course it was a dramatisation?!? What were you expecting? - an accurate soothsaying? WTF has the particular number got to do with it? Where it occurs & how shallow seem to have a vast amount to do with the damage occurring. Probably find that a 1.0 quake in your underpants would rock your world. (baby:banana:).

The real reason for the program is to get people thinking about it, & if they’re lucky every 5th one stashes some water or whatever somewhere where they have a fighting chance of getting to it.


. . .
Smoking can cause cancer, it doesnt always!

That reminds me of a parable I just made up
An optimist, a pessimist & a realist start up smoking. The optimist keeps the smoking habit as he thinks it won’t happen to him, the pessimist keeps the smoking habit as he thinks he’s got to die of something, but the realist quits as he feels that inhaling toxic smoke into his lungs on a regular basis is a crazy idea at any rate.

[cooneyr]

The only thing I think it failed to do was point out that it could be any town, ok Wellington is at risk, but on this thin island there are no earthquake safe areas.

Hopefully this will get some motivated to build up some food & water & shelter materials

True but Welly will be the worst off large city of all the city in NZ for two reasons

It is closest to a major fault line hence it will experience the most shaking energy of any major city in NZ.
The impacts of the shaking will be the worst that any major city will experience i.e losing the Hutt motorway, airport and nauranga gorge will make it very very difficult to get in and out of down town Welly.


Chch on the other hand has heaps of options for getting in and out and very little potential to loose all major routes.

8.2 is not some number dreamed up. There is plenty of historical data around in the form of geological records (shifted banks, rivers, sediment layers etc) that has been used to determine the 8.2. The scariest thing is that Richter scale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale) is not linear.


Because of the logarithmic basis of the scale, each whole number increase in magnitude represents a tenfold increase in measured amplitude; in terms of energy, each whole number increase corresponds to an increase of about 31.6 times the amount of energy released.

Do not think of the 8.2 as being twice as bad as some of the 4.0 which sometimes occur in the area it will be much much worse (I think it is 10,000 times worse but stand to be corrected on this). An 8.2 is a seriously nasty shake that will be recorded the world over.

Back when I was at Eng school we were told there is a 60% chance of the "big" one in 50 years (or was that a 50% chance in 60 years :scratch:)

Cheers R

[sinfull]

Yeah i think the program did its job ! I mean if you were diabetic and a good one hit, would you leave yr insulyn in the car ? Two poor saps got shot cause of it and in a tv shop disquised as a chemist !

But where's walt ???

[Kittyhawk]

Who will be watching and do you think there will be a few people that ring up 111 in a panic causing chaos

I'll be watching as i have a passion for natural disaters such as this

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4719392a1860.html

what about bikes?

[firefighter]

I thought they wasted all the research they obviously did by putting the main operations area in Wellington- pretty common knowledge that it would realistically have been run from Palmy, not in the area, it bugged me quite a bit- (same thing as if Auck was hit all the people sitting round the table will be in another city) So you don't have people "in charge" having emotional issues as well as trying to deal with the situation......

And I thought the acting was gash, other than that a cool idea really.

[NighthawkNZ]

I thought they wasted all the research they obviously did by putting the main operations area in Wellington- pretty common knowledge that it would realistically have been run from Palmy, not in the area, it bugged me quite a bit-

Ummm wrong... they may in general have another hq say in Palmy organising to get the relief in...

Remember the air port was out so it would only be chopper air support, untill the runway was repaired to get supplies in that is very limited

The harbour was out due to the wave, and it would take a couple of days for the navy to load stores and respond anyway (The new ship Canterbury would be the perfect vessel here... no port but it doesn't need one to land the equipment and supplies and extra man power. (That is of course if Canterbury is in the country...)

So untill relief can arrive The Ground Zero Team would still be, and stay in direct control of the area, utilising what tools they have available to them till that relief arrives.

[firefighter]

Ummm wrong... they may in general have another hq say in Palmy organising to get the relief in...

Remember the air port was out so it would only be chopper air support, untill the runway was repaired to get supplies in that is very limited

The harbour was out due to the wave, and it would take a couple of days for the navy to load stores and respond anyway (The new ship Canterbury would be the perfect vessel here... no port but it doesn't need one to land the equipment and supplies and extra man power. (That is of course if Canterbury is in the country...)

So untill relief can arrive The Ground Zero Team would still be in direct control of the area, utilising what tools they have available to them till that relief arrives.

? HUH? You know I'm talking about the big wigs organising everything right? Twas talking with the boss this morning and he agreed with me, yes there would be a ground zero ops centre- to pass on orders, ie C.I.M.S....... but the big decisions would have been made from afar...........

[davebullet]

Did you mean you believed it was real? :no: Or that it was believeable?
Who cares if details weren't as reality? I doubt would Mana be wiped out by a tsunami from that epicentre, when the whole of the south coast around to Makara is sheltering Mana from any direct wave force.
I had to laugh at the old biddy...walks into the bathroom of that house up the hill, sees the dead fat guy in the bath, shrugs and drops her bloomers to have a pee on the toilet just across the room.

I meant I thought it was believable. Actually I thought the whole thing was pretty well done... I was just having a bit of a laugh....

I agree with you, the old lady seeing the dead guy in the bathroom and then what happened... was taking the piss a bit. Maybe it was a bit impromptu and she just had to go... and didn't realise the cameras were rolling and the cameraman might have been a bit of a perv. and all that. :jerry:

With regards to the comment "many people can't afford a CD kit".. well you just don't go out and spend $1,000 tomorrow. Put a can of food aside a week, buy an extra blanket when you can afford, a torch etc... build up your supply over a long time.... and don't forget in an emergency, Like Neo said "guns.... we need lots of guns"

[NighthawkNZ]

? HUH? You know I'm talking about the big wigs organising everything right?


Oh ok I'll give you that... :doh: