Do you know someone like this?

[Number One]

OK so I'm at home with a raging flu trying to rest and recover but given my current workload I have to work while I'm at it :angry2:

Talk about brain fade (yes even more than usual) drugs are bad hmmkay...so given I am currently lacking in any inspiration I thought hell why not throw this out to the KB hordes. Surely at least one of them will have at least one brilliant idea that I can 'leverage' for my latest piece of work.

SO if you are up for it PLEASE help me with my homework ;) There's a chockie fish in it for people suggestions that I will actually use.

CONTEXT: I'm developing a 'team effectiveness and bondage I mean bonding day' and I have to base this around a specific theory of team dynamics.

Given that I don't much like using stock standard things (and they are dry as hell in this instance) I am looking for ideas of well known personalities (not KB ones) OR professions (hell I'll even be keen on well known characters from film or TV) that fit each of the descriptors below.

IF you can provide any ideas these would be much appreciated. Reply with the number of the descriptor and the personality or profession you think fits.

THANKS IN ADVANCE TOO.

SO the 9 descriptors are as follows (and I am not going to use their official names as this might stiffle your creativity!):


Calm self-confident and controlled. . A good communicator who uses the team’s resources to achieve goals.May not be outstanding in terms of creative ability.
Vigorous, active, outgoing and dynamic. Prone to be aggressive and impatient. Concerned with goals rather than the team. Low interpersonal tolerance. Not trusted.
Individualistic, serious-minded, unconventional, introverted. Creative, innovative and independent. Thinks intensely and high intelligent. Not team oriented, off hand and critical. Overlooks practical constraints. Easily offended.
Moderate, composed, unemotional, prudent. Intelligent, impartial, hard headed. Considers decisions carefully.Not creative or achievement oriented. Lacks inspiration or ability to motivate others. Indifferent.
Extroverted, enthusiastic, curious, communicative. A negotiator and explorer. Makes things happen. Good interpersonal skills. Thinks on feet. Not original or creative. Enthusiasm flags after initial fascination.
Conservative, dutiful and predictable. Organising ability, practical, common sense, hard working, self discipline. Identifies with organisation. Lack of flexibility, enthusiasm and creativity. Unresponsive to unproven ideas.
Compulsive and introverted. Finishes jobs on time. High standards and self control. Gets job finished, strength of purpose and reliable. Good organiser. Tenacious. Anxious and socially retiring. Holds on too long.
Socially oriented, forgiving and sensitive. Diplomatic. Maximises use of skills in team. Good interpersonal skills. Trusting and caring. Ensures smooth running of group. Indecisive at moments of crisis. Not competitive or goal orientated. Too self sacrificing and non-critical.
Single Minded, technocratic.Self starting, dedicated, keen to learn their subject, proud of work. Single minded, will exclude factors outside their expertise, thorny, territorial about their profession


Again thanks for any ideas and help provided :yes:

[Nasty]

Calm self-confident and controlled. . A good communicator who uses the team’s resources to achieve goals.May not be outstanding in terms of creative ability.

Helen Clark




Individualistic, serious-minded, unconventional, introverted. Creative, innovative and independent. Thinks intensely and high intelligent. Not team oriented, off hand and critical. Overlooks practical constraints. Easily offended.

Vincent Ward - Filmmaker


two to start - is this what you are after??

[Number One]

two to start - is this what you are after??
Eggzachery! Thanks Nasty - must spread yadda yadda

[Nasty]

Individualistic, serious-minded, unconventional, introverted. Creative, innovative and independent. Thinks intensely and high intelligent. Not team oriented, off hand and critical. Overlooks practical constraints. Easily offended.


Nigel Kennedy - Violinist


Extroverted, enthusiastic, curious, communicative. A negotiator and explorer. Makes things happen. Good interpersonal skills. Thinks on feet. Not original or creative. Enthusiasm flags after initial fascination.

Bill Clinton - ex President USA

[paulmac]

#8 david lange
#9 Saddam Hussain

[ManDownUnder]

#1 Calm self-confident and controlled. . A good communicator who uses the team’s resources to achieve goals.May not be outstanding in terms of creative ability.
Excuse the gross over simplification but this sounds like a typical Kaumatua. Sits quietly at the back of a meeting house letting the team debate the topic at hand or solve the problem in front of them.

If/when things either go off track, or some serious wisdom is needed then it is offered. The whole group knows they are there the whole time, and their input is mostly not verbalised, which places even more value on anything they DO say.

[ManDownUnder]

Single Minded, technocratic.Self starting, dedicated, keen to learn their subject, proud of work. Single minded, will exclude factors outside their expertise, thorny, territorial about their profession



Gordon Ramsey

[Nasty]

Socially oriented, forgiving and sensitive. Diplomatic. Maximises use of skills in team. Good interpersonal skills. Trusting and caring. Ensures smooth running of group. Indecisive at moments of crisis. Not competitive or goal orientated. Too self sacrificing and non-critical.

Princess Di???

[Number One]

Gordon Ramsey
OOO that's a goody! Some neat pics around of him too :lol:

THIS IS REALLY BLOODY HELPFUL EVERYONE! :sunny:

[Nasty]

Compulsive and introverted. Finishes jobs on time. High standards and self control. Gets job finished, strength of purpose and reliable. Good organiser. Tenacious. Anxious and socially retiring. Holds on too long.

Billy Connolley (apparently you have to read his autobiography to know this)

[Bass]

#2 Winston

[Number One]

Billy Connolley (apparently you have to read his autobiography to know this)
Ok - probably more keen on the really obvious examples so that anyone can relate and see the connection - but keep the ideas coming :clap:

Really REally helpful...my brain isn't doing me any bloody good at the moment...

[ManDownUnder]

#6 is going to be a tough one - boring people don't usually hit the limlight much

Conservative, dutiful and predictable. Organising ability, practical, common sense, hard working, self discipline. Identifies with organisation. Lack of flexibility, enthusiasm and creativity. Unresponsive to unproven ideas

Someone hard working but boring at batshit in Parliament might be an idea. Bill English perhaps? Maybe Janette Fitzsimmons?

[Number One]

#6 is going to be a tough one - boring people don't usually hit the limlight much
:lol: true! Or think characters...

[Stirts]

Conservative, dutiful and predictable. Organising ability, practical, common sense, hard working, self discipline. Identifies with organisation. Lack of flexibility, enthusiasm and creativity. Unresponsive to unproven ideas.

[Stirts]

Vigorous, active, outgoing and dynamic. Prone to be aggressive and impatient. Concerned with goals rather than the team. Low interpersonal tolerance. Not trusted.

[James Deuce]

No. 6 John Major, ex-British PM.

[yungatart]

#6...accountants?

[Number One]

Sam the Eagle LMAO!!! FAB!!!!


RIK Aaaabsolutely perfect - especially given the other attributes - love it! Chockie fish worthy for sure...hope the bling will hold you long enough for that though :niceone:


No. 6 John Major, ex-British PM.

GOOD ONE :clap:


#6...accountants?

Definitely :hug: thanks

[Number One]

Some great ideas flowing in!!! Love the tongue in cheek ones too just the kind of thing I'm looking for as I'd like to inject some personality into this stuff.

At this point have nothing for numbers 4, 7 and 8 so if you can suggest a well known personality, Profession or Character for those awesome - but again all ideas for any of the other descriptors are welcome :sunny:





Calm self-confident and controlled. . A good communicator who uses the team’s resources to achieve goals.May not be outstanding in terms of creative ability.
Vigorous, active, outgoing and dynamic. Prone to be aggressive and impatient. Concerned with goals rather than the team. Low interpersonal tolerance. Not trusted.
Individualistic, serious-minded, unconventional, introverted. Creative, innovative and independent. Thinks intensely and high intelligent. Not team oriented, off hand and critical. Overlooks practical constraints. Easily offended.
Moderate, composed, unemotional, prudent. Intelligent, impartial, hard headed. Considers decisions carefully.Not creative or achievement oriented. Lacks inspiration or ability to motivate others. Indifferent.
Extroverted, enthusiastic, curious, communicative. A negotiator and explorer. Makes things happen. Good interpersonal skills. Thinks on feet. Not original or creative. Enthusiasm flags after initial fascination.
Conservative, dutiful and predictable. Organising ability, practical, common sense, hard working, self discipline. Identifies with organisation. Lack of flexibility, enthusiasm and creativity. Unresponsive to unproven ideas.
Compulsive and introverted. Finishes jobs on time. High standards and self control. Gets job finished, strength of purpose and reliable. Good organiser. Tenacious. Anxious and socially retiring. Holds on too long.
Socially oriented, forgiving and sensitive. Diplomatic. Maximises use of skills in team. Good interpersonal skills. Trusting and caring. Ensures smooth running of group. Indecisive at moments of crisis. Not competitive or goal orientated. Too self sacrificing and non-critical.
Single Minded, technocratic.Self starting, dedicated, keen to learn their subject, proud of work. Single minded, will exclude factors outside their expertise, thorny, territorial about their profession


Again thanks for any ideas and help provided :yes:

[Maha]

4 Moderate, composed, unemotional, prudent. Intelligent, impartial, hard headed. Considers decisions carefully.Not creative or achievement oriented. Lacks inspiration or ability to motivate others. Indifferent. ME!!!

7 Compulsive and introverted. Finishes jobs on time. High standards and self control. Gets job finished, strength of purpose and reliable. Good organiser. Tenacious. Anxious and socially retiring. Holds on too long. Hold on to long? yeah ME again.

8 Socially oriented, forgiving and sensitive. Diplomatic. Maximises use of skills in team. Good interpersonal skills. Trusting and caring. Ensures smooth running of group. Indecisive at moments of crisis. Not competitive or goal orientated. Too self sacrificing and non-critical.
Yeah all of that ..ME

[Number One]

4 Moderate, composed, unemotional, prudent. Intelligent, impartial, hard headed. Considers decisions carefully.Not creative or achievement oriented. Lacks inspiration or ability to motivate others. Indifferent. ME!!!

7 Compulsive and introverted. Finishes jobs on time. High standards and self control. Gets job finished, strength of purpose and reliable. Good organiser. Tenacious. Anxious and socially retiring. Holds on too long. Hold on to long? yeah ME again.

8 Socially oriented, forgiving and sensitive. Diplomatic. Maximises use of skills in team. Good interpersonal skills. Trusting and caring. Ensures smooth running of group. Indecisive at moments of crisis. Not competitive or goal orientated. Too self sacrificing and non-critical.
Yeah all of that ..ME
:lol: :rolleyes: Trust YOU Maha...but in all seriousness - I don't think the Chief Economist and the southern hemispheres Oil Reserves expert know of you :rofl:

[James Deuce]

No 4 Dick Cheney

No 7 The Cable Guy

No 8 Albert Einstein

[Number One]

No 4 Dick Cheney

No 7 The Cable Guy

No 8 Albert Einstein
Do you mean 9 for Albert E JD?

Hahahahaaa the cable guy LMAO..self control???

[James Deuce]

Do you mean 9 for Albert E JD?

Hahahahaaa the cable guy LMAO..self control???

No, number 8. He's definitely NOT a technocrat (E=Mc^2 fell out of a mathematical error), and spent most of his professional life working and guiding other people in teams. His inter-personal relationships were very strong and he made several goofs that he regretted when working on the Manhattan Project (even working on the Manhattan Project was a cause for great regret), particularly when trying to compete at Politics with Politicians. Self serving creeps like Edward Teller used Einstein (http://gk12.rice.edu/trs/science/Atom/einstein.htm) as a stepping stone, because of his non-critical team management and indecision at crisis points.

You may have to watch the Cable Guy again, with that definition in mind to see what I mean.

[Madness]

Calm self-confident and controlled. . A good communicator who uses the team’s resources to achieve goals.May not be outstanding in terms of creative ability.
Vigorous, active, outgoing and dynamic. Prone to be aggressive and impatient. Concerned with goals rather than the team. Low interpersonal tolerance. Not trusted.
Individualistic, serious-minded, unconventional, introverted. Creative, innovative and independent. Thinks intensely and high intelligent. Not team oriented, off hand and critical. Overlooks practical constraints. Easily offended.
Moderate, composed, unemotional, prudent. Intelligent, impartial, hard headed. Considers decisions carefully.Not creative or achievement oriented. Lacks inspiration or ability to motivate others. Indifferent.
Extroverted, enthusiastic, curious, communicative. A negotiator and explorer. Makes things happen. Good interpersonal skills. Thinks on feet. Not original or creative. Enthusiasm flags after initial fascination.
Conservative, dutiful and predictable. Organising ability, practical, common sense, hard working, self discipline. Identifies with organisation. Lack of flexibility, enthusiasm and creativity. Unresponsive to unproven ideas.
Compulsive and introverted. Finishes jobs on time. High standards and self control. Gets job finished, strength of purpose and reliable. Good organiser. Tenacious. Anxious and socially retiring. Holds on too long.
Socially oriented, forgiving and sensitive. Diplomatic. Maximises use of skills in team. Good interpersonal skills. Trusting and caring. Ensures smooth running of group. Indecisive at moments of crisis. Not competitive or goal orientated. Too self sacrificing and non-critical.
Single Minded, technocratic.Self starting, dedicated, keen to learn their subject, proud of work. Single minded, will exclude factors outside their expertise, thorny, territorial about their profession


#2 Tony Veitch
#5 Marc Ellis

[Number One]

No, number 8. He's definitely NOT a technocrat (E=Mc^2 fell out of a mathematical error), and spent most of his professional life working and guiding other people in teams. His inter-personal relationships were very strong and he made several goofs that he regretted when working on the Manhattan Project (even working on the Manhattan Project was a cause for great regret), particularly when trying to compete at Politics with Politicians. Self serving creeps like Edward Teller used Einstein (http://gk12.rice.edu/trs/science/Atom/einstein.htm) as a stepping stone, because of his non-critical team management and indecision at crisis points.

You may have to watch the Cable Guy again, with that definition in mind to see what I mean.
Nice! Thanks for the explanation around Al - didn't know much about him or his career myself. Didn't realise he worked with teams...

Cable guy will definitely have a look at that...have to admit I HATE Jim C so didn't pay much attention the only time I ever came across that movie :lol: BUT I LIKE the idea of that character.

[James Deuce]

In fact, Edward Teller would be a good choice for No 9.

[Number One]

In fact, Edward Teller would be a good choice for No 9.
Goes to look up a linky on Edward Teller.....

[Madness]

In fact, Edward Teller would be a good choice for No 9.

Is he the big fat one, or the short one that doesn't say much?

[Number One]

Neither...he is this guy....:lol:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/EdwardTeller1958.jpg

[James Deuce]

Neither. He's the weird geeky one they modelled Dr Stranglove on, in part. Tried to make a Uranium Hydride bomb. Fool. Everyone knows that would never work.

[mstriumph]

4. Reacher

[Number One]

4. Reacher
Is that Jack Reacher? From the Lee Child books?

[jrandom]

Jesus H. Christ. I loathe the inevitable people in large corporations who shuffle paper and spout bullshit and don't do anything whatsoever to contribute to the bottom line.

Although, y'know, they're not really inevitable. Mostly because they're not actually necessary. They just tend to accrete, like gangrene, once an organisation has lost its way and is ready to begin pointlessly burning its revenue instead of handing it back to shareholders.

Of course, any public sector organisation is like that from day one.

Burn all HR departments. The world would be a better place.

:done:

Oh, yeah, nothing personal, #1.

:msn-wink:

[NighthawkNZ]

Again thanks for any ideas and help provided :yes:

I haven't got the attention span to read all that... But your welcome... :msn-wink:

[Number One]

blah blah blah. Nothing personal #1
I'd say thanks for your input but there wasn't anything actually 'useful' in there...I am glad you got that off your chest though...are you feeling any better now? :msn-wink:

and NO - I don't take anything you say personally....I have a good handle now on how to take your comments :yawn: :msn-wink:

[vifferman]

I think a team bondage day would be an excellent idea to tie the team together (or knit them together, if you used wool).
Of course, afterwards, you'd be kinda awkward with one another for a few days.
Or maybe weeks...
Sorry I don't have anything else to contribute right now - I'm suffering from a head thing, where all kinds of mucous and stuff is leaking out, my head feels like there's back pressure from a large snot deposit somewhere, and my eyes feel like the Sandman put too much sand in last night.
Gah! and all that...

[Number One]

I think a team bondage day would be an excellent idea to tie the team together (or knit them together, if you used wool).
Of course, afterwards, you'd be kinda awkward with one another for a few days.
Or maybe weeks...
Sorry I don't have anything else to contribute right now - I'm suffering from a head thing, where all kinds of mucous and stuff is leaking out, my head feels like there's back pressure from a large snot deposit somewhere, and my eyes feel like the Sandman put too much sand in last night.
Gah! and all that...
awww :hug: I hear ya!!! I just started the antirobotics today so hopefully be feeling much better tomorrow :sunny:

BTW - ewwwwww I can't think of anything worse than being tied to some of the policy wonks I work with...definitely no desire to screw the crew in this place :lol:

[vifferman]

...definitely no desire to screw the crew in this place :lol:
Here neither.
Or at the last place I worked, despite a couple of the ladies being models. There were a couple perhaps that were OKish (and they weren't the models, who were too scrawny).

Luckily, all that is neither here nor there, as I am blessed by being almost singularly unattractive. Fuktifiknow what the vifferbabe sees in me...
I think she wonders that sometimes too...:doh:

[Number One]

I am blessed by being almost singularly unattractive. Fuktifiknow what the vifferbabe sees in me...

:lol: ME too! and Fuktifiknow what the Sullster sees in me either :confused:

Must be my sensible feet and good cooking :laugh:

[ManDownUnder]

:lol: ME too! and Fuktifiknow what the Sullster sees in me either :confused:

Must be my sensible feet and good cooking :laugh:

Nope - it's the loose/non revealing clothing ...

[Number One]

Nope - it's the loose/non revealing clothing ...
are you saying that trackpants ain't sexy or something???

[Hemex]

#7 not really introverted - Monica from Friends (Character)
In real life would be Vladimir Putin (doesnt really hold on too long)

[ManDownUnder]

#5 Extroverted, enthusiastic, curious, communicative. A negotiator and explorer. Makes things happen. Good interpersonal skills. Thinks on feet. Not original or creative. Enthusiasm flags after initial fascination.

Vicar of Dibley

[Number One]

#5 Extroverted, enthusiastic, curious, communicative. A negotiator and explorer. Makes things happen. Good interpersonal skills. Thinks on feet. Not original or creative. Enthusiasm flags after initial fascination.

Vicar of Dibley
That's a goody! Chockie fish for you too.

[Stirts]

That's a goody! Chockie fish for you too.

:weep: Chockie fish hussie!!!

[Number One]

:weep: Chockie fish hussie!!!
Hey!!! Stop your whining you're getting one too c'mere...:hug:

[CM2005]

#5 Rossi
10 char.:doh:

[paulmac]

are you saying that trackpants ain't sexy or something???

track pants have been re-named "lounging trousers" in our house !!

[Number One]

#5 Rossi


hmmm I'd argue that Rossi is creative but anyway - the #4 and #6 brained policy wonks I deal with wouldn't have a clue who he is :lol:

[Number One]

track pants have been re-named "lounging trousers" in our house !!
oooerrr now that makes them sound classy even :lol: I am currently reclining in my best lounging trousers :rofl:

[mstriumph]

Is that Jack Reacher? From the Lee Child books?

absolut! .........:msn-wink:

[CM2005]

hmmm I'd argue that Rossi is creative but anyway - the #4 and #6 brained policy wonks I deal with wouldn't have a clue who he is :lol:

lol, my bad me too, should've read the whole thing:doh:

[Blossom]

#6 is going to be a tough one - boring people don't usually hit the limlight much

Conservative, dutiful and predictable. Organising ability, practical, common sense, hard working, self discipline. Identifies with organisation. Lack of flexibility, enthusiasm and creativity. Unresponsive to unproven ideas

Someone hard working but boring at batshit in Parliament might be an idea. Bill English perhaps? Maybe Janette Fitzsimmons?

see now I was thinking his royal prince charles...tehehehe.... or even camilla???

[James Deuce]

see now I was thinking his royal prince charles...tehehehe.... or even camilla???
You need to review your understanding of Prince Charles' impact on things like Conservation, Comedy, alternative music, and proper get-your-hands-dirty-charity-work over the last 40 years. It's arguable (FWIW) that the Green movement in Europe and Western democracies would have little traction without his patronage.

[jrandom]

I am glad you got that off your chest though...are you feeling any better now?

Yessssssssss.

Thank you.