Thanking cage drivers/Common Courtesy and the reputation of NZ bikers.

[StoneChucker]

As I was driving (cage) home from work today, I realised that on the whole, I don't get any thank you waves from bikers who I move over for.

Whenever someone moves over for me to pass in the same lane, I always give a nice big wave. I think it's a good idea if everyone does it, as more people will move over, and be aware of bikers.

So, what do you do then?

Hmm, I WAS going to make a poll with this post, but it seems as if I'm not afforded the opportunity :confused2

[SPORK]

I wave to all bikes I see, just while I'm walking. So if you're ever around Boganville and see a kid wave at you, think Cryhavoc!

[Posh Tourer :P]

You ought to be able to....

I always wave if people move over, I also wave if I've pushed in front, to say thanks for not ramming me or going psycho......

[Posh Tourer :P]

So if you're ever around Boganville and see a kid wave at you, think Cryhavoc!

And let slip the Dogs of War?

[StoneChucker]

You ought to be able to....

I always wave if people move over, I also wave if I've pushed in front, to say thanks for not ramming me or going psycho......
Haha, yes same here. I had such witty poll options.... Well, I know where I'd like to put that poll now! :ar15:
:D

[Firefight]

As I was driving (cage) home from work today, I realised that on the whole, I don't get any thank you waves from bikers who I move over for.

Whenever someone moves over for me to pass in the same lane, I always give a nice big wave. I think it's a good idea if everyone does it, as more people will move over, and be aware of bikers.

So, what do you do then?

Hmm, I WAS going to make a poll with this post, but it seems as if I'm not afforded the opportunity :confused2


same as you mate, always try and give a thank you wave, its never fails to amaze me just how many are happy to pull over to let you get past.

F/F :ride:

[sAsLEX]

i always give a little wave to people who let me through and people towing bikes as well

[jimbo600]

Same. I always wave if a cage pulls over. I also wave if I have passed them a bit close going up the Rimatakas. I give a different kind of wave if cage drivers pull out to stop me passing too.

[Joni]

I always give a nice big wave.

I always wave, well actually its a lift of the hands in the direction of the cage. Acknowledge the driver for moving over...

No frantic waves like Stoney! :2thumbsup ;)

[Biff]

In general I wave if the move was obvious. Anyway, I'm a happy biker and at times take perverse delight in waving at pedestrians and pretty much anyone who looks in my general direction, and because I'm wearing a helmet and they don't know who I am, they generally wave back, just in case they offend a friend I guess. It makes me feel all gooey inside when I get a wave back. (note to self - must get a life).

[Motu]

Sports bike riders won't wave to me on my dirt bike - but if I'm in a car and move over for them,I always get a wave....guess they don't know who I am without a helmet...

[StoneChucker]

I don't wave at everyone I pass, and I don't get out the pom poms either! Just a small, quick thank you would suffice :)

Today, I moved over obviously for about 5 bikes, and only one waved back (To his credit, was a KB'er who had recognised the KB Mobile).

[sAsLEX]

. I give a different kind of wave if cage drivers pull out to stop me passing too.

I hear Quasi does something with his foot!

[Skunk]

I wave - but only if I can do it without crashing. Then I introduce myself. :whistle:

[Gixxer 4 ever]

I have always waved for the people who pull over. :spudwave: I wave to the ones I push in front of as above. :calm: I do not like the cages that pull in to the shingle and expect me to pass when I do not want to pass. They have worked out that the more stones they throw up at me the sooner they can perve at the bike when I pass them. :laugh: :laugh:

[StoneChucker]

I have always waved for the people who pull over. :spudwave: I wave to the ones I push in front of as above. :calm: I do not like the cages that pull in to the shingle and expect me to pass when I do not want to pass. They have worked out that the more stones they throw up at me the sooner they can perve at the bike when I pass them. :laugh: :laugh:
I doubt it. Maybe they just want to get rid of the Suzuki sniffing around the REAR of the car...

[Ms Piggy]

I don't wave at everyone I pass, and I don't get out the pom poms either! Just a small, quick thank you would suffice :)

Yes I can confirm that Stoney doesn't wave like a maniac, just a quick yet clear wave. :spudwave: As do I.

[Stevo]

I like waving to people esp little kids who turn to look at ya go passed.

Lots of road users fark me off tho. Generally speaking this is my theory:

1) I always wave to truck drivers who let me go past No matter wot as they are the most considerate drivers.
2) People with boats between Chch are the most bloody ignorant, like they own the frickin road. (GENERALLY)
3) Idiots who pull over if an opportunity arises but don't slow down as well!! (Esp if I am in the old mans ute with one of bikes on board).
4) People with no brains! Goddamn them. AND there is so MANY of THEM

If I am towing trailers etc I try to watch my mirrors as much as possible so I can pull over (and if reqd slow down). Also I will often "slow down" on passing lanes to make sure people can easily and safely pass. Even if it means slowing down to seventy before going into the Hundalees or something so the people (if there are any of course) behind can get by.

[Stevo]

Sorry. My long winded point was that sometimes pulling over is not always enough to be a good driver, but always worthy of wave for being a considerate one!

[Big Dave]

Wave, thank them - buy them a beer - I believe this is the only place on the planet it happens.
bd

[inlinefour]

As I was driving (cage) home from work today, I realised that on the whole, I don't get any thank you waves from bikers who I move over for.

Whenever someone moves over for me to pass in the same lane, I always give a nice big wave. I think it's a good idea if everyone does it, as more people will move over, and be aware of bikers.

So, what do you do then?

Hmm, I WAS going to make a poll with this post, but it seems as if I'm not afforded the opportunity :confused2

Most do not. but some do. I think that its a sign of the times. Along with that most people do not acknowledge when a truck pulls over to allow traffic to pass. As a road user I make it a habit to toot or wave to those slower vehicles who are considerate to the quicker ones. Also driving my Surf I'm often allowing others to pass so I know what it feels like on both sides. I think that these days most people are so absorbed in their own lives that they are totally oblivious to what is happening around them. :blink:

[Nutter34]

Wave, thank them - buy them a beer - I believe this is the only place on the planet it happens.
bd

I'm from South Africa and the road manners here are actually quite poor as far as giving way and saying thank you are concerned.

I always nod or wave to anyone that has pulled over while I'm on the bike and here around Nelson it happens a lot. The cagers are generally quite good.

[Big Dave]

I'm from South Africa and the road manners here are actually quite poor as far as giving way and saying thank you are concerned.

I always nod or wave to anyone that has pulled over while I'm on the bike and here around Nelson it happens a lot. The cagers are generally quite good.


i stand corrected: One of the FEW places on the planet.

bd

[Bob]

As I was driving (cage) home from work today, I realised that on the whole, I don't get any thank you waves from bikers who I move over for.

Whenever someone moves over for me to pass in the same lane, I always give a nice big wave. I think it's a good idea if everyone does it, as more people will move over, and be aware of bikers.

So, what do you do then?

Hmm, I WAS going to make a poll with this post, but it seems as if I'm not afforded the opportunity :confused2

If someone moves over to let me through, they get a big nod of appreciation as I go past.

I would wave, but as letting me through is normally in rush hour, I want to keep both hands on the bars, just in case!

Moving over seemed to be non-existant here in the UK at one stage - but now it seems to have very much changed for the better and it is more often than not that a car driver will move over to let you through.

(I still recall the time some idiot in a sports car could not bear the idea of me getting in front of them at the lights, so actively moved further over. Of course, all I did was wait for them to stop, then filter quietly past to the front of the queue...)

[Slim]

I like to be really obvious when thanking other road users for letting me past ...




I give a big thumbs up with my left hand fully extended so they can't miss it, when I'm in front of them. If it's in the twisties & I'm too busy to remove my left hand from the handle bar, I give a little "toot, toot" with my new air horns instead. :D


When I'm in my own c@r, I'll stick my hand out the window with a big thumbs up, usually for trucks that let me past, and in any weather. And certainly a toot or wave for other cars towing something that actually have the courtesy to pull off the road to left the traffic past. I tend to drive to the left anyway, since I hate white line huggers, and there is provision to earn points on your licence for not driving to the left (not that the cops would actually do it, but the provision is there.)

[bugjuice]

yeah, I wave a friendly 'ta' as I sail past.. the more effort they put into moving over, the more of an effort I make waving at them.

I had one guy in a van who got the real guilts that he wasn't able to move over. I was filtering thru when I got to this guy, didn't think anything of it, cos he was there before I got there, so he leant out of the window shouting sorry!! I pulled up along side as I could, and had a bit of a quick chin wag.. He wasn't a biker, but said he had huge respect for us.. quick pat on the back, and we were off..

Anyhoo, who here is going to put their hand up and say they don't wave? All the posts here, say they do! i do..

[vifferman]

Yeah, waves are alright, apart from those really big dumpers that smash you into the bottom, and spin you round and round like a washing machine.:blink:

[Coyote]

Instead of waving, I just do a 'beep beep' to them (Cause there is no way in hell I'm going to let go of the grips on a corner :p).

It's quite funny cause whenever I do this, I start a chain of 'beep beep's behind me as the cagers are doing the same to save face

[Riff Raff]

I always do a wave or a toot toot, or both. :wavey:

[Coldkiwi]

Instead of waving, I just do a 'beep beep' to them (Cause there is no way in hell I'm going to let go of the grips on a corner :p).


hmm, why are you going round cars on corners if you can't ride for one hand briefly? I;m a little concerned at some of the other comments to this affect to!

But anyway... yup, gotta say thanks at least when people see you and try to help. For the most part during my lane splitting commuting, there's enough room anyway but on occasions I need to wait for a driver to move aside and will wave when I go past (prefer not to resort to lane 1A as its just another opportunity for some numbnut with too little caffiene in the morning to get me)

[Coyote]

hmm, why are you going round cars on corners if you can't ride for one hand briefly? I;m a little concerned at some of the other comments to this affect to!

Since I'm not in a thinking mood today and don't want to explain, Meh

[Wolf]

After quoting "CryHavoc"


And let slip the Dogs of War?



Great one, Posh Tourer! Made my afternoon.

[Skunk]

Since I'm not in a thinking mood today and don't want to explain, MehI'm never in a thinking mood... :banana:

[vtec]

Just give a raised hand off the bars for a second, that's enough.

Also on my commuting/splitting to work today, I'm getting ever more determined, two trucks were parked in both lanes at the lights coming up to the on ramp for the northern motorway off the south eastern highway, they were too close together, but I couldn't be bothered waiting cause the traffic was so bad, I could've been waiting forever, so I went between them brushing both wing mirrors on the trucks simultaneously. They were steel tray trucks anyway and my wing mirrors are plastic that have scraped the ground a couple of times each anyway.

[Waylander]

i always wave to other bikers and peaple towing bikes and peaple who move over for me when im passing, even if im driving the cage problem is when im in the cage and i wave to bikers that go by they dont wave back

[DrDee]

I agree we should wave, I haven't been doing so but I will make the effort from now on, especially since I spend most of the time going down the white line and ducking back into the lane when needed. I still try very hard not to annoy any cage drivers while I do this by indicating and generally being pretty obvious with my intentions. Although I do admit I have hit (but not damaged) two wing mirrors since I have been in Auckland, I always feel very bad afterwards :whistle:

[NC]

I wave to all bikes I see, just while I'm walking. So if you're ever around Boganville and see a kid wave at you, think Cryhavoc!
I'll remember to rip the fingers at you:D

[NC]

Haha I was sitting at the lights in the work van and the lights changed to green and this dude went to walk out. He took the 3 steps backwards and looked rather :o so to make it worse, I did a big Nelson Munce "AH HA!"

Man I cracked up!

[Sniper]

I have always tried to wave when people pull over for me or just generally be nice and signal for me to overtake when they can see nothing coming.

I have time for those people. Its the others that stick in the middle of the road, dont pull over, tailgate you and generally piss me off.

I waved at a bike from a cage the other day and the bastard just flipped me off. All I was doinfg was being nice. But yea, its dicks like those that deserve to have all the bad shit done to them!

My say

[Clockwork]

I wave to all bikes I see, just while I'm walking. So if you're ever around Boganville and see a kid wave at you, think Cryhavoc!

Hey CryHavoc, did you wave to a bike on the Totara Park bridge about a week ago?

ps any relation to MikeyHavoc? :rolleyes: :laugh:


Note to self.... really must stop laughing at my own lame jokes!

[Ninja51]

Here's one for you all you bikers who are car drivers too(like wot I am).

Do you acknowledge a car driver who inches over to let you pass?
I tend to raise my left hand in the hope that it will improve the image of bikers on our roads... or at least let them know I personally am not some ignorant twat impatient to get ahead.
Furthering on from that, if you are in your car, do you offer the same courtesy to riders and let them pass?
I realise that this could open up a right can of worms, and as we all know, non biking car drivers are either blind or on their cellphones (or both).
But what about the car drivers among us? What is your perception of the NZ biker. (I say NZ biker and not Kiwi biker cos I'm a pom)

[vifferman]

Do you acknowledge a car driver who inches over to let you pass?
Yes, sometimes, if I can do so without compromising my concentration or riding.

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Furthering on from that, if you are in your car, do you offer the same courtesy to riders and let them pass?
Yes.

What is your perception of the NZ biker.
Some of us do us no favours at all - riding like complete wankers, and giving bikers a bad name.:blank:

[outlawtorn]

To be honest, being polite is a habit for me and I expect the same in return, but I have found that quite a few NZ drivers don't even say thanks when you let them out, I've noticed this especially with the Asian drivers, but then again I've noticed that they are generally bad drivers. Just an observation.

In South Africa mostly everyone on the road drives like complete arseholes with no regard for the law or personal safety, yet everyone is courteous to a degree and rather polite. Weird.

[Clockwork]

When cars move over to let me filter I always nod :yes: , don't know if they can tell but I'm not risking more than that in heavy traffic. I will wave on the open road and whenever I pass any car I try not to startle the driver. :ar15:

I must say I'm plesently surprised by the number of driver that do move over for me. Don't know if its the headlights (always on) or the loud exhuasts but they generally seem to know I'm there. :rockon:

[Hitcher]

If a cager moves over and lets me through I give them a "big ups" with my left hand. Similar acknowledgement for other courtesies and kindnesses, but not if it involves exposing myself to danger.

[scumdog]

Unless not safe to do so I ALWAYS give the 'thumbs up' (with left hand of course!) and quite frequently recieve a courtious 'toot-toot' in reply.

Some motorcyclist do NOTHING for the public perception, - pass at innappropriate places, tail-gate etc - in fact EVERYTHING that they slag-off cages drivers for! <_<

A little thoughtfulness and courtesy goes a long way IMHO.

[Slim]

See this recent thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=8235) on the same subject. :)

[MSTRS]

Almost always acknowledge when given room (common courtesy, right?). In saying that, there have been times when I haven't. Either it's too risky to lift a hand (nods are not seen) or the cager has kept me stuck behind for ages (knew I was there, was trying to be a hero). In the cage, I will always make room to let the biker past if they cannot otherwise pass (that includes moving to edge of the lane at lights etc. I even do this for HD riders (choke, gasp) :hug:

[TonyB]

I'm afraid that I have always assumed that the car in front is pulling left because they assume I am going to do something crazy. I usually mutter something like "It's OK mate, I'm not going to do anything to scare you". Perhaps I am in need of an attitude adjustment. I'll give them the thumbs up in future.

[StoneChucker]

See this recent thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=8235) on the same subject. :)
Thanks Slim. I was getting worried there for a minute. I thought I dreamed the last few weeks and had just woken up!

[Biff]

I wave a thanks if it's obvious that they've moved, and if she's cute I throw my phone number throught he window ;)

[Fryin Finn]

I feel if one is going to be outraged by non courteous or crap driving by cagers then it is our duty to show thanks when they do show courtesy by pulling over. When I'm in my car I usually stick my hand through the sunroof to wave thanks. I drive my car like I ride my bike and cars and trucks pull over for me to (must think I'm going to an emergency)

[**R1**]

Some of us do us no favours at all - riding like complete wankers, and giving bikers a bad name.:blank:
I think we always have and always will have a bad name.......the other thing that piss's me off is when your a good 2seconds behind but they move all the way to the left anyway, if i wanted to pass i would!!. but if im on a ride and they move aside i will always give em a wave, and if they have kids in the car i will wave to them and pop a wheelie just to give the kids a thrill..........Just reading that i think i might just be one of the wankers, that gives us a bad name, but i ride the way i like too.

[Skunk]

...I drive my car like I ride my bike...Interesting to watch you filter... :killingme

[Omega1]

Yep,I like to acknowledge motorists who pull over to let me pass (they probably do it to get this noisy Harley away from them asap) its a simple gesture to say thank you.

[Lou Girardin]

I always try to wave at cagers that pull over. I wave at those that don't too.
But I wish cagers wouldn't pull right onto the gravel to let you past.

[Skyryder]

I like to keep both hands on the bars. Will waggle the fingers (left hand) as I pass in acknowledgment.

Skyryder

[Jantar]

I'm afraid that I have always assumed that the car in front is pulling left because they assume I am going to do something crazy. I usually mutter something like "It's OK mate, I'm not going to do anything to scare you". Perhaps I am in need of an attitude adjustment. I'll give them the thumbs up in future.

When I'm driving a cage I always move left to let the bike pass. Its what I like cage drivers to do, so it also what I do.

[SPman]

I always ease to the left, if I see bikes coming up behind. (I dont always - sometimes theyre on you and gone rather quick)
What shits me is when cars see you and promptly swerve to the shoulder as though the driver has had a heart attack! Its rather unnerving. Whilst I appreciate the intent.......Also, if drivers do pull over and Im not going to pass immediately I usually shake my head to let them know .Seems to work.I dont like to feel pressured to pass.