Katman do

[Grahameeboy]

I have been thinking...always a worry....:(

Look I know Katman is getting bad press over his opinions on the likes of Carver and yes I wish he would perhaps roll a spliff and relax, however, I have met Katman and I have great respect for him and whilst some may not like his approach, we must not forget the message which I support.

I find it odd when there are many threads / posts abusing cagers and boy racers (Are we not the ultimate boy racers??) for bad behaviour yet when someone attacks the way we behave, it seems to be a no no.

How can we judge others if we cannot allow ourselves to be judged.

Listen to the message not the delivery...

[Pussy]

I have been thinking...always a worry....:(

Look I know Katman is getting bad press over his opinions on the likes of Carver and yes I wish he would perhaps roll a spliff and relax, however, I have met Katman and I have great respect for him and whilst some may not like his approach, we must not forget the message which I support.

I find it odd when there are many threads / posts abusing cagers and boy racers (Are we not the ultimate boy racers??) for bad behaviour yet when someone attacks the way we behave, it seems to be a no no.

How can we judge others if we cannot allow ourselves to be judged.

Listen to the message not the delivery...
You're right on to it, Graham!
I've met Katman too, and he is a good bastard! He is, however a little more difficult on the eye than his lovely sister!

[Grahameeboy]

You're right on to it, Graham!
I've met Katman too, and he is a good bastard! He is, however a little more difficult on the eye than his lovely sister!

Is she single.....:whistle:

[pritch]

Sanity is OK in moderation.

Shame to spoil the message with a delivery that alienates people, but it takes all sorts...

[Swoop]

and whilst some may not like his approach, we must not forget the message which I support.
So.
It is like having a really pleasant orgasm with a fucking horrible ugly fat sweaty slag then?

[Blossom]

I'm with you on that one Graeme.
Katman seems like an allright sort to me.

Swoop...yet again you have been eating wayyyyy too many smart alec pills in the morning... bastard. I can never think of anything that witty this early in the day.

[Mom]

I have been thinking...always a worry....:(

I wish he would perhaps roll a spliff and relax


A spliff GB :gob: most unlike you...:cool:

The message is not the problem mate, it is all in the delivery :yes:

[Katman]

The message is not the problem mate, it is all in the delivery :yes:

No it's not.

I think it was MBB who said "no-one likes having a mirror held in front of their face".


and yes I wish he would perhaps roll a spliff and relax,

You better not have been down the back of Noel's having one without me.

[Usarka]

No it's not.

I think it was MMB who said "no-one likes having a mirror held in front of their face".

everything is a two way street....

[jrandom]

A spliff GB :gob: most unlike you...:cool:

Living with me for a while will corrupt anyone.

[CookMySock]

I think it was MBB who said "no-one likes having a mirror held in front of their face".Yeah but put a mirror in front of your face and you cry foul and scream like a stuck pig.

No one likes any message jammed up their arse. You might be right, but we might be right too, so if you get to jam your message, then we get to fucken jam ours.

Bend over, or back off. Its not rocket science.

Steve

[Tank]

Yeah but put a mirror in front of your face and you cry foul and scream like a stuck pig.


Oh the irony - this coming from our very own DB.

[Ixion]

I do not entirely agree with Mr Katman (I think he allows too little importance to the bastardry of the Biker Gods), but I have never seen any problem with his "delivery" (whatever that means).

[Quailboy]

This is a public forum after all,

so if you don't like hearing someones opinion then don't listen, cause you actually don't have to.

I think Katman is fine (haven't met the man or been here long), he adds another dimension like every other member and as has been said, has some valid points.

[Swoop]

Swoop...yet again you have been eating wayyyyy too many smart alec pills in the morning... bastard. I can never think of anything that witty this early in the day.
I have them with my rice bubbles and beer cereal. Mmm. Snap, crackle and burp!

[fireball]

I have them with my rice bubbles and beer cereal. Mmm. Snap, crackle and burp!

is that before or after the spliff everyone seems to be passing around?

[Swoop]

is that before or after the spliff everyone seems to be passing around?
I haven't seen it yet...

[Jacko2]

I have been thinking...always a worry....:(

Look I know Katman is getting bad press over his opinions on the likes of Carver and yes I wish he would perhaps roll a spliff and relax, however, I have met Katman and I have great respect for him and whilst some may not like his approach, we must not forget the message which I support.

I find it odd when there are many threads / posts abusing cagers and boy racers (Are we not the ultimate boy racers??) for bad behaviour yet when someone attacks the way we behave, it seems to be a no no.

How can we judge others if we cannot allow ourselves to be judged.

Listen to the message not the delivery...

You sound sensible, how'd you get in hah?

[Number One]

So.
It is like having a really pleasant orgasm with a fucking horrible ugly fat sweaty slag then?
Short attention span, other shit to be doing AND I don't care deeply enough about the topic to read further or even comment on it...BUT it was worth clicking on this thread just to read that post :rofl: :niceone:

[Bonez]

Listen to the message not the delivery...He's a cock in his delivery. Hense folk will remember it. Marketing 101.

[riffer]

I think K's calmed down remarkably.

I remember one weekend when I was a mentor back when he was new on the scene and trying to get his point across in a much more strident fashion that he does now.

His message is good. While I may not agree with K's delivery I applaud his passion and enthusiasm. Hopefully he'll make a difference with some (although I fear at 41 I'm pretty much a lost cause now).

Long may your crusade continue Steve.

[madbikeboy]

I've made the point a dozen times that KatMan serves a purpose in this community.

MBB.

[SixPackBack]

I dunno grahameeboy he comes across as an abusive coont eager for attention........I'm picking some serious social habit/s as well. [certainly anger management!]

[carver]

katnana is all good...
you been rolling spliffs yourself?

[Maha]

Whats a spliff??
Im so pure and well behaved I have no idea....:(

[Ascott]

Fuck the cunt!

[JimO]

Fuck the cunt!

wow thats just........

[carver]

I've made the point a dozen times that KatMan serves a purpose in this community.

MBB.

you still trolling?

[PrincessBandit]

...


You better not have been down the back of Noel's having one without me.

Steve, I'm shocked!!!:shit:



:msn-wink:

[enigma51]

Steve, I'm shocked!!!:shit:



:msn-wink:

Yeah weird same guy that goes on and on and on about dangerous riding but yet he uses drugs hmmmmm

[CookMySock]

To be clear, I am all for his message. I'd send my learner kid along to hear his lessons, but I doubt said kid would choose to go back. Hey if he did want to go back, do you think I would be happy about it? Of course I would.

I'm 40 and a bit now, and I am interested in all sorts of things, but I am not remotely interested in any of them being righteously and repeatedly shoved up my arse - even the really interesting ones.

My message is not dissimilar - just themed slightly different. "Go have fun, but don't get yourself killed. Remember you have a family, and that they are going to cry when you are dead, so sharpen up! Now fuck off and learn to wheelie." ;)


Steve

[Katman]

My message is not dissimilar

Your message is nothing like mine.

In fact, with the amount of 'flip flopping' you're famous for, you don't know from one day to the next what your message is.


Yeah weird same guy that goes on and on and on about dangerous riding but yet he uses drugs hmmmmm

And what the fuck has that got to do with anything.

[CookMySock]

Your message is nothing like mine.Damn straight. I understand that people actually have feelings, something quite lost on you.

Steve

[enigma51]

Your message is nothing like mine.

In fact, with the amount of 'flip flopping' you're famous for, you don't know from one day to the next what your message is.



And what the fuck has that got to do with anything.

Apart from the fact that you are a two faced cunt alot

[Grahameeboy]

So.
It is like having a really pleasant orgasm with a fucking horrible ugly fat sweaty slag then?

You tell me as you appear to have more insight than me:innocent:

[Grahameeboy]

A spliff GB :gob: most unlike you...:cool:

The message is not the problem mate, it is all in the delivery :yes:

You would be surprised.

Delivery yes but the message is there and it can often be too easy to use the delivery to avoid the message...I can handle delivery...

[Grahameeboy]

You sound sensible, how'd you get in hah?


Ssscchh....I am Winja in disguise......

[Grahameeboy]

He's a cock in his delivery. Hense folk will remember it. Marketing 101.

Marketing what bollocks...his message should not need marketing..he is being Human...something we generally forget to do...that is an easy out to use that excuse...

[Usarka]

Marketing what bollocks...his message should not need marketing..he is being Human...something we generally forget to do...that is an easy out to use that excuse...

So it's human to offend people in order to force your agenda down their throat?

I usually slam the door on those bicycle riding nobs.

[Grahameeboy]

So it's human to offend people in order to force your agenda down their throat?

I usually slam the door on those bicycle riding nobs.

Arrrhhhh...but he doesn't as we have a choice...and maybe it is the only way at times to get a point driven home...

[Katman]

Apart from the fact that you are a two faced cunt alot

Best money I ever spent was on my copy of Zen and the Art of Ignoring Cocksuckers.

:msn-wink:

[AllanB]

I am interested in all sorts of things being righteously and repeatedly shoved up my arse - even the really interesting ones.


Ha Ha amazing what a bit of editing can do!!!!!!!

:clap::clap::clap:

Sorry - just taking the piss :rolleyes:

[PrincessBandit]

Yeah weird same guy that goes on and on and on about dangerous riding but yet he uses drugs hmmmmm

A bit skewed - I'd go along with you on that if he said he indulged in booze and/or the weed then jumped on his bike (or behind the wheel of his car for that matter). But the inference from your post is anyone with a safety message would therefore never drink, never take medication which might affect their concentration etc. It's quite different to do those things when you're not about to take charge of a potential lethal weapon. (No Mel Gibson and Danny Glover jokes!!!) Katman's message is to do with safe motorcycle practice, not "don't drink, don't do drugs".

[The Stranger]

You better not have been down the back of Noel's having one without me.

Yeah, hey, at least I had mine right there by the pool and shared with everyone.

[Katman]

Yeah, hey, at least I had mine right there by the pool and shared with everyone.

Had I passed out by then?

[enigma51]

A bit skewed - I'd go along with you on that if he said he indulged in booze and/or the weed then jumped on his bike (or behind the wheel of his car for that matter). But the inference from your post is anyone with a safety message would therefore never drink, never take medication which might affect their concentration etc. It's quite different to do those things when you're not about to take charge of a potential lethal weapon. (No Mel Gibson and Danny Glover jokes!!!) Katman's message is to do with safe motorcycle practice, not "don't drink, don't do drugs".

He is also goes on about how your actions can effect your loved once...... and being so passionate about it i would thought he would apply that to all fascist of life.


And yes katman i like to ignore cock suckers as well but its a bit hard when every second post on kb is by the cock sucker.



PS I have no issues with people using weed.

[Usarka]

Only users lose drugs.

[JohnR]

He is also goes on about how your actions can effect your loved once...... and being so passionate about it i would thought he would apply that to all fascist of life.


PS I have no issues with people using weed.

Except Katman!?:scratch:

[DMNTD]

Best money I ever spent was on my copy of Zen and the Art of Ignoring Cocksuckers.

Best money I ever spent was on a copy of "How to attract cock suckers" but by Jehovah I'm getting more flexible by the day!

[enigma51]

Except Katman!?:scratch:

You are missing the point. I would suggest go have a read of his bullshit ...... some might call it being passionate ................. and you will get it.

[Katman]

and you will get it.

I think you've lost it.

:msn-wink:

[DMNTD]

I think you've lost it.

Secondary smoke? :sherlock:

[SARGE]

Cant We All Just Get Along?


<img src="http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/lapd/getalong2.jpg">

[McJim]

I'm sorry. I have no idea what Katmans mesage is. I suspect that very few do as it's wrapped in obscenity and a childish inability to understand other people. Like a child he lashes out when someone speaks reason.

From what I have read I am left assuming that his message is as follows:

You breathe - you ara a fuckwit.
You eat - you are a fuckwit.
You go fishing - you are a fuckwit.
You watch telly - you are a fuckwit.

It seems that no one except himself can do anything right. he signs all his messages and bling "fuckwit" though so at least he's right on one subject.

[SARGE]

You breathe - you ara a fuckwit.
You eat - you are a fuckwit.
You go fishing - you are a fuckwit.
You watch telly - you are a fuckwit.




well.......



yea.....

now drop and give me 20

[boomer]

One of the problems is the amount of homos in here. The other is this self righteous 'I'm holier than tho shit'.

Unless ya shits pink and smells of roses, i'd be tempted to tell you to shut the fuck up and get on with it.


My advice.. put 'em all on ignore... no more cock smokers to worry about then, less drivel to plough through and more bike related talk.


Easy :thumbsup:

[Katman]

I'm sorry. I have no idea what Katmans mesage is. I suspect that very few do

Wanna start a poll?

:msn-wink:

[tri boy]

As opposed to smoking a pole........slurp, slurp.

[Katman]

As opposed to smoking a pole........slurp, slurp.

Now where was I?

Ah yes, Chapter 2.


:msn-wink:

[inlinefour]

I'd be keen on a piece of weed cake or a hash cookie if there is any going. What was you saying Grahameboy, this 2nd hand smoke has me too stoned to remember. :beer:
For the record: Anyone who gets totally upset by a post made by another has to be a bit of a cock smoker themself. ;)

[nallac]

this thread is useless with out pics........of his lovely sister.

[madbikeboy]

I've met KatMan, if his sister managed to dodge that bullet, she needs to buy a lotto ticket too. (Sorry Steve!).

Back on topic.

He is blunt. And sometimes the message gets lost. But, at least he gives a fuck. For the record, he's on my friends list, has been for a long time.

[Jiminy]

Katman's message is to do with safe motorcycle practice, not "don't drink, don't do drugs".

Ah, but that's the thing. No matter what you do, there is always someone to think that they have the right to tell you what is good for you. If you want to impose lessons, you better be perfect.

I generally agree with the behavior recommended by Katman, but I find him at times very offending in his comparisons (e.g. motorcycle cancer) or in how he tries to impose his view on you, no matter what you think and with no nuances.

With so much hammering, the only good he'll really achieve is a high record in the 'Ignore List' section. Yes, he might get the odd fool to improve his/her riding after one of his posts, but then there might be another fool to do exactly the opposite.

There are other people on this forum to get a similar message across with much more respect and, I believe, success.

[AlBundy]

Ssscchh....I am Winja in disguise......

Not in you wildest wet dreams...

He owned your cry-baby ass...

As for Katman, he's just a cock.

[Grahameeboy]

Not in you wildest wet dreams...

He owned your cry-baby ass...

As for Katman, he's just a cock.

Right..........

[enigma51]

For the record, he's on my friends list, has been for a long time.

Wow now thats something he must alright then after his on your friends list :crazy:

[boomer]

Wow now thats something he must alright then after his on your friends list :crazy:

lol.. i thought exackery the same thing when i read his post.. just before i replied.. i thought .. "Why reply.. he's a no one.. hence the thought and no reply!"

lollies.. @ the internet... i think i just won teh internEt !!!!!1111

[ital916]

Whats a spliff??
Im so pure and well behaved I have no idea....:(

A spliff is dak/gangja/grass/weed rolled with tobacco.

[ital916]

Not in you wildest wet dreams...

He owned your cry-baby ass...

As for Katman, he's just a cock.

And your a pussy, so katman has every right to ream you over and over until your bloody and sore then shoot is message all over you and leave you cowering in the corner.

[boomer]

A spliff is dak/gangja/grass/weed rolled with tobacco.

Whats feigned sarcasm...?!!!

[ital916]

Whats feigned sarcasm...?!!!

Sarcasm is the sneering, jesting, or mocking of a person, situation or thing. It is strongly associated with irony, with some definitions classifying it as a type of verbal irony intended to insult or wound — stating the opposite of the intended meaning, e.g. using "that's fantastic" to mean "that's awful".

feigned sarcasm is just sarcasm.....BOOM-er

[SixPackBack]

Ah, but that's the thing. No matter what you do, there is always someone to think that they have the right to tell you what is good for you. If you want to impose lessons, you better be perfect.

I generally agree with the behavior recommended by Katman, but I find him at times very offending in his comparisons (e.g. motorcycle cancer) or in how he tries to impose his view on you, no matter what you think and with no nuances.

With so much hammering, the only good he'll really achieve is a high record in the 'Ignore List' section. Yes, he might get the odd fool to improve his/her riding after one of his posts, but then there might be another fool to do exactly the opposite.

There are other people on this forum to get a similar message across with much more respect and, I believe, success.


Katmans verbal masturbation and 'look at me' grandstanding serves no real purpose other than to alienate those folk who's behaviour he wishes to change.

Efforts to succinctly point out his poor communicative ability are met with abusive PM's and thinly veiled threats.

Stay off the drugs man.

[Katman]

Katmans verbal masturbation and 'look at me' grandstanding

Chapter 3.

[boomer]

Sarcasm is the sneering, jesting, or mocking of a person, situation or thing. It is strongly associated with irony, with some definitions classifying it as a type of verbal irony intended to insult or wound — stating the opposite of the intended meaning, e.g. using "that's fantastic" to mean "that's awful".

feigned sarcasm is just sarcasm.....BOOM-er


*Well, aren't you the clever one..??!!




*Sarcasm.

[paulmac]

FFS, people, relax. Its the internet !!!

I may disagree with what you say - I will defend to death your right to say it !!!

[ital916]

FFS, people, relax. Its the internet !!!

I may disagree with what you say - I will defend to death your right to say it !!!

the only tense one seems to be you my good sir, abbreviated swearing...whats the world come to. :laugh:

[ital916]

*Well, aren't you the clever one..??!!




*Sarcasm.

Here comes the
Here comes the
Here comes the
Ya'll don't really want it now BOOM-er!
Here comes the BOOM-er!
Here comes the BOOM-er!
Here comes the
Ya'll don't really want it now BOOM-er!
Here comes the BOOM-er!
Here comes the BOOM-er!
Here comes the
Ya'll don't really want it now BOOM-er!

(Verse 1)
It's the B-Double O-M-E-R
I said it so I keep it realz up in my hudle,on the dirty like Bledsoe
Ain't got no twist in my hair,but I'm still dread throwin
I gots plenty of bread so I go to bed full now
i'm in it to win,to win it I'm all in
I might call you my cuz young blood,but we ain't kin (naw)
Ya think of jumpin' man,you best think again
Lil dirty,I'm the type of man that might go broke for revenge
Got some not so nice friends,kick the door off the hinge
Take the door of ya Benz,p-p-pop 4 of your friends
Man please this here ain't cynical (Uh uh)
aint no subliminal,I'm physical,financial,and mental to be a general (HEY)
Lil mama come, she want a soldier
Not the type be in the tank, but in that Rover
Man please I'm in the zone like AIDS full blown
I'm killin it like a blind man readin,I'm feelin it like BOOM-er!

(Hook)
Here comes the BOOM-er!
Here comes the BOOM-er!
Here comes the
Ya'll don't really want it now BOOM-er!
Here comes the BOOM-er!
Here comes the BOOM-er!
Here comes the
Ya'll don't really want it now BOOM-er!
Here comes the BOOM-er!
Here comes the BOOM-er!
Here comes the
Ya'll don't really want it now BOOM-er!
Here comes the BOOM-er!
Here comes the BOOM-er!
Here comes the
Ya'll don't really want it now BOOM-er!

(Verse 2)
He really think he gutter when he know he soft as butter
He ain't never been a fighter,you can go and ask his mother
I'm a lover and a fighter, producer and a writer
Give your girl a quick fix,and give ya man a nice shine
(Ya'll don't really want it) And I can tell just by lookin at ya
That you the type to run and go and tell just by lookin at ya
You want a mission for recognition by dissin (dissin)
Then have no problem till the record started rippin
(But uh Ya'll don't really want it) So let me tell ya the deal
I'm oh so serious,I'm dirty,I'm no longer for real
I'M LIKE A HOP SKIP AND A JUMP,a glock grip on the pump
From leavin you in da trunk,somewher prepar'n ta dunk
(Ya'll don't really want it) So quit actin like you deaf
I'M LOOKIN TO MY RIGHT,tryna see who's left
So uh,you better watch it fore I stick to the plan
And be the next Artest to run up in your stands like BOOM-er!

(Hook)

(Verse 3)
Ya'll don't really want it,don't really want it
Ya'll don't really want it with me
I know ya shook man,you ain't built for
As scared as a nigga can be
It's gon sound like BOOM-er!
When I'm comin like BOOM-er!
When I'm comin like BOOM-er!
When I come for ya
It's gon sound like BOOM-er!
When I'm comin like BOOM-er!
When I'm comin like BOOM-er!
When I come for ya
It's gon sound like BOOM-er!

[Lucy]

FFS, people, relax. Its the internet !!!

I may disagree with what you say - I will defend to death your right to say it !!!


Really? To the death??

[AlBundy]

And you're a pussy, so Katman has every right to ream you over and over until you're bloody and sore, then shoot his message all over you and leave you cowering in the corner.

BWAHAHAHAHA... If I was a pussy, I'd never leave the house, play with myself all day and have multiple orgams...

I'm sure Katman can fight his own battles...

Who are you again?

[ital916]

BWAHAHAHAHA... If I was a pussy, I'd never leave the house, play with myself all day and have multiple orgams...

Who are you again?

BAHAHA touche....funny funny bling coming your way.

Me...I'm a nobody until I bocome a somebody then I'll be an asshole until I become a nobody again then I'll be a born again something.

I'm not fighting katmans battles I just saw the opportunity for some word play.

[inlinefour]

A spliff is dak/gangja/grass/weed rolled with tobacco.

I find this post slightly offensive and its completely incorrect therefore giving the wrong impression to all those that read your post. Although all the nicknames are correct when talking about cannabis, the mixing of cannabis and tobacco is an Aussie bad habit. Anyone who hands me a splif with tobacco mixed in it is likely to end up with it in their beer. A spliff is a cannabis ciggerette, no tobacco, no filter, just cannabis rolled in zig-zag (or alternative) paper(s - depending on the size you want). Im feeling old now because Ive just realised how long ago it was since I last did that.:mellow:

[Mikkel]

I, like many others I suspect, will happily agree that the message Katman is trying to get across has real merit.
However, the only people he'll ever get across to are the people who realise - either through rational thought or experience - that it has merit. Those that he would like to reach the most are the most likely to disregard him entirely. Ergo, it's a failed effort.

I've never met the man in person and shall not presume to pass judgement of any kind. I can only say 'good on ya' for caring. However, throwing abuse at everyone who thinks differently from yourself is a pretty petty way to behave.

And why is there even a thread on this subject? And why do I bother posting? Dunno, but am looking forward to the holidays - and maybe even some weed. :yes:

[AlBundy]

I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

After previous posts in another thread today, I will NEVER respect him. He has ZERO compassion for anyone else. He is selfish. I don't care what anyone is trying to achieve, what he did today, was over the line.

I don't often get upset about posts on the net but after this lot, I'm fuming...

Katman, until you start treating people with respect, you're not going to get any...

[enigma51]

I noticed the mods got hold of this thread now half of the things people are saying has no meaning thanks mods you rock

[Quasievil]

I must have missed it all, cant find the topic of contention here.

Kb is a whole lota BS (it seems) these days ,manifested by a few plonkers.

Keep it real folks or fuck of I say.

[ital916]

I find this post slightly offensive and its completely incorrect therefore giving the wrong impression to all those that read your post. Although all the nicknames are correct when talking about cannabis, the mixing of cannabis and tobacco is an Aussie bad habit. Anyone who hands me a splif with tobacco mixed in it is likely to end up with it in their beer. A spliff is a cannabis ciggerette, no tobacco, no filter, just cannabis rolled in zig-zag (or alternative) paper(s - depending on the size you want). Im feeling old now because Ive just realised how long ago it was since I last did that.:mellow:

who uses filters when smoking that stuff, and Ill have you know among us young uns well where I am located a spliff is rolled with some tobaccy which is bad, a j is pure rolled in jjust a paper.

[inlinefour]

who uses filters when smoking that stuff, and Ill have you know among us young uns well where I am located a spliff is rolled with some tobaccy which is bad, a j is pure rolled in jjust a paper.

lol I must be getting fairly old then as a joint and spliff was the same thing in my day. Each to their own I guess and if your paying for the stuff it would make it last longer. Although if I had ever had to pay for the stuff I would have never tried it. One of the benefits of growing up with my own garden learning to grow fruit and vegetables, this stuff grows like Pooha!

[The Pastor]

I have been thinking...always a worry....:(

Look I know Katman is getting bad press over his opinions on the likes of Carver and yes I wish he would perhaps roll a spliff and relax, however, I have met Katman and I have great respect for him and whilst some may not like his approach, we must not forget the message which I support.

I find it odd when there are many threads / posts abusing cagers and boy racers (Are we not the ultimate boy racers??) for bad behaviour yet when someone attacks the way we behave, it seems to be a no no.

How can we judge others if we cannot allow ourselves to be judged.

Listen to the message not the delivery...
but hey man, thats not cool, we ride bikes so we are better than everyone else.

[enigma51]

I must have missed it all, cant find the topic of contention here.

Kb is a whole lota BS (it seems) these days ,manifested by a few plonkers.

Keep it real folks or fuck of I say.

You need to have a look in pd first

[Katman]

My post simply pointed out the sickening hypocrisy that is so often displayed on here.

[boomer]

My post simply pointed out the sickening hypocrisy that is so often displayed on here.


A post which you will regret.




Huh Katman.... u da man.

[Katman]

A post which you will regret.




Like I said, fuck off with your idle threats.

[boomer]

Like I said, fuck off with your threats.


You should rephrase it.. as above.

[Mom]

There are somethings best left alone and without comment.

Sadly there are some members that do not know what lines they cross bringing comment to things which they know nothing about, all in an effort to promote their message.

The worst of them do actually know they have crossed a line and simply dont give a shit. Shame really.

[AlBundy]

Not even an apology from Katman.

He's all class.

NOT!!!

And never will be!!!

[Katman]

You should rephrase it.. as above.

You've dished out threats to numerous people on here.

I've never heard of you following through with any of them.

:tugger:

[SixPackBack]

You've dished out threats to numerous people on here.

I've never heard of you following through with any of them.

:tugger:

Fucken hypocrite. Thinly veiled threats via PM including not only an invitation to 'say it to your face' but also sending your freekin address!?

You katman are a psycho-to believe someone would ride from auckland to taupo to confront somebody over a couple of pissy comments on KB speaks volumes about your character, or lack there of.

[Katman]

You katman are a psycho-to believe someone would ride from auckland to taupo to confront somebody over a couple of pissy comments on KB speaks volumes about your character, or lack there of.

Or maybe it speaks more so of your lack of character.

I turned up at Noel's so you'd have the opportunity to confront me.

You obviously didn't have the balls.

[Grahameeboy]

Hey you 2...there is no need for attacks...:Playnice:

Sixbelly, you have had your Katman moments...not criticising just making an observation.

Katman...I support your intentions but you need to give the pm's a miss.

Remember "Jesus" forgives....and so should we...otherwise we end up hurting ourselves more.

[SixPackBack]

Hey you 2...there is no need for attacks...:Playnice:

Sixbelly, you have had your Katman moments...not criticising just making an observation.

Katman...I support your intentions but you need to give the pm's a miss.

Remember "Jesus" forgives....and so should we...otherwise we end up hurting ourselves more.

Fuck jesus as well graham

[Mom]

Katman...I support your intentions but you need to give the pm's a miss.

I agree...

:Offtopic:

btw, no I dont have Nats rabbit, but there are some nice pics of you on the party thread :whistle:

[Grahameeboy]

Fuck jesus as well graham

Not on a Sunday please dude.....

[ital916]

A post which you will regret.




Huh Katman.... u da man.

Haha I remember when you threatened to beat up ragingrob and another SMCer.

I feel left out...threaten me too...;)

You seem so angry, kb gets to the best of us but why threaten people with violence, just threatening someone with violence can be as bad as hitting them so calm it. I see where your handle comes from...you seem to explode every other second. Try some horse tranquilizer.....wait no elephant tranquilizer..that should do it.

[Oscar]

I have been thinking...always a worry....:(

Look I know Katman is getting bad press over his opinions on the likes of Carver and yes I wish he would perhaps roll a spliff and relax, however, I have met Katman and I have great respect for him and whilst some may not like his approach, we must not forget the message which I support.

I find it odd when there are many threads / posts abusing cagers and boy racers (Are we not the ultimate boy racers??) for bad behaviour yet when someone attacks the way we behave, it seems to be a no no.

How can we judge others if we cannot allow ourselves to be judged.

Listen to the message not the delivery...

I agree with most of what Katman says.
However I think he is wasting his time, as motorcyclists are simply not (and never will be) a coherent group. Actually the fact that I used the word "motorcyclists" to describe us is a good indication of the problem. I loathe the word "biker" - it conjures up images of...of... of.... (actually I won't say 'cause I have enough red rep for the minute).

The first time I was ever called a "biker", was by a colleague at work 20 years ago- a man considerably older than me, who rode (and very slowly I might add), a Honda GL500 Silver Wing. He said - "...I hear you're a fellow biker..?" I was taken aback - how could this Nana, this silly old coot on an overfettled boat anchor, have any connection with me (a windswept dirt bike he-man)?
Shit, I didn't even ride on the road...

The problem is that the public see us as one group and that is inherently unfair, as can be exemplified by the fact that the media don't say "Dangerous Carpersons", they say "Boy Racers". But when reporting on motorcycle riders they don't differentiate - they say "bikers" or "motorcyclists" This means that whereas all car drivers don't get painted the same as their hoon element, we do.

So for a minute, put yourself in Katmans shoes - he's got a lot invested in this sport/hobby/lifestyle and tries to protect it - but he gets categorized with young fuckwits like Carver..

So these days, I may be that Nana in the eyes of some younger enthusiasts, as I share Katmans impending sense of doom. I may not see us a cogent group, but the fucking politicians do, and they don't like what they see...

[boomer]

Haha I remember when you threatened to beat up ragingrob and another SMCer.

I feel left out...threaten me too...;)

You seem so angry, kb gets to the best of us but why threaten people with violence, just threatening someone with violence can be as bad as hitting them so calm it. I see where your handle comes from...you seem to explode every other second. Try some horse tranquilizer.....wait no elephant tranquilizer..that should do it.

sure.. call me and we'll discuss

[Brett]

I never find a lack of reason to be amused at the BS that is KB. Funny thing is, I see people ripping into people who I KNOW, if they met in real life, would probably find that they get on like a house on fire.

Shit people, it is the internet...what is it if there cannot eb a bit of pisstaking and tom foollery. Every forum has its own little set of characters, each playing out there own little part of the theatre.

My only complaint is that so ,much of the decent, piss taking and bull crap goes into PD!!!!! Once upon a time, I could log onto KB and it felt like a largish group of mates all taking the piss and giving each other shit while passing the time before the next group ride or BBQ or whatever.

Now it feels like a bit of a place where key board warriors log in to to talk abotu bikes and general shit and to pontificate about biking *should* be and how bikers *should* behave.

FFS all, this summer...get ur arses into the saddle and off the keyboard and have a bit of fun.

[idb]

Well I reckon the main problem is a general excess of legumes in the diet.

Soy is added to all sorts of processed food now and this causes the obvious problems associated with lectins and protease inhibitors.

[enigma51]

Not on a Sunday please dude.....

Fine then fuck him on a monday :girlfight:

[ital916]

sure.. call me and we'll discuss

If you're ever in auckland/or if you actually live here come to a friday night gathering at the local pub, we can have a pint and have a chat like sane human beings.

Thing is with kb is it takes all the emotion and traits that conversing in person has, and as such it is difficult to judge emotion. Ill assume you just come off as angry.

[crazefox]

Who gives a FUCK man you need a life

[ital916]

Who gives a FUCK man you need a life

whos that aimed at.

[crazefox]

This thread:nono::nono::nono:

[carver]

sure.. call me and we'll discuss

can i join in?

[boomer]

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
can i join in?

yeah man

[carver]

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

yeah man

thats it, im starting a KB fight thread

[mister.koz]

Jesus people are too serious!

Katman expresses his opinion with a canon when a slingshot will do, and people ignore him and thus make his "your a fuckwit ignorant idiot.... blah blah" comments 100% correct because they are ignoring and being petulant in response to having someone pick their nose for them.

"A good message ignored is a poor message heard" - unknown poet

I personally applaud him for his ferocity, and see his only failing being that the ones who do listen often have their enthusiasm completely demolished for some time.

This whole "to the bitter end i am going to bash this keyboard till that fucker feels it" mentality has stepped past weird and gone to totally crazy, by the way an electronic threat of violence is considered as serious as one that is face to face, the difference being dates, times, posts and ip addresses are recorded verbatim online.

[ital916]

Jesus people are too serious!

Katman expresses his opinion with a canon when a slingshot will do, and people ignore him and thus make his "your a fuckwit ignorant idiot.... blah blah" comments 100% correct because they are ignoring and being petulant in response to having someone pick their nose for them.

"A good message ignored is a poor message heard" - unknown poet

I personally applaud him for his ferocity, and see his only failing being that the ones who do listen often have their enthusiasm completely demolished for some time.

This whole "to the bitter end i am going to bash this keyboard till that fucker feels it" mentality has stepped past weird and gone to totally crazy, by the way an electronic threat of violence is considered as serious as one that is face to face, the difference being dates, times, posts and ip addresses are recorded verbatim online.


Tis what I was saying

[Quasievil]

Jesus people are too serious!



I Know my son, I will talk to the mighty one and see if he can finally do something about it, but last time I complained he started a rather big flood.

[Bass]

I may not see us a cogent group, but the fucking politicians do, and they don't like what they see...

I agree with Oscar on this one and believe that it has much more potential for damage to our passion than the occasional cyber hissy fit.

We are both of us wasting our time however, because no-one who needs to hear, is listening

[carver]

I Know my son, I will talk to the mighty one and see if he can finally do something about it, but last time I complained he started a rather big flood.

fuck giving the mods more power

[Quasievil]

fuck giving the mods more power


Sharpen up bro, Im talking about the one ! you know the one you praise on Sunday am:rolleyes:

[Katman]

We are both of us wasting our time however, because no-one who needs to hear, is listening

That is why I'll continue to :brick: regarding irresponsible behaviour on a motorcycle.

I'm not the first on here to try to get this message across - just maybe one of the more stubborn fuckers. People constantly say they have no problem with my message but rather with the delivery. (Delivery? What - because I swear a lot?) Those people need to get over the "delivery" bit and see that the way forward, out of this shit motorcyclists have created for themselves, is to vocally support the message regardless of whether you like me or not.

As I mentioned a while back in another thread, drink driving has become socially unacceptable largely due to peer pressure.

[Usarka]

Peer pressure only works when you respect your peers.......?

[Katman]

Peer pressure only works when you respect your peers.......?

No, the concept of peer pressure actually works something like this..........

"You're being a stupid fuck"

"You're being a stupid fuck"

"You're being a stupid fuck"

"You're being a stupid fuck"...........

Until the person starts thinking "Hey, maybe I am being a stupid fuck".

[Usarka]

No, the concept of peer pressure actually works something like this..........

"You're being a stupid fuck"

"You're being a stupid fuck"

"You're being a stupid fuck"

"You're being a stupid fuck"...........

Until the person starts thinking "Hey, maybe I am being a stupid fuck".

My understanding and experience of psychology and human change management is that the normal human response to that is normally "get fucked who the fuck are you?"

You even run the risk in your example that you convince the person that they are indeed "a stupid fuck". If for example I believe that I am a "stupid fuck" how do you think I'm going to behave.....?

If it really is the message that is important you should at least consider other possible approaches. Or even multiple approaches as people are all different (except me).

[Katman]

My understanding and experience of psychology and human change management is that the normal human response to that is normally "get fucked who the fuck are you?"



Correct, if it's only one person saying it. Perhaps you mistook my post above as being said by one person in broken record fashion. It was meant as four different people saying the same thing.

Peer pressure only works when it's a number of people giving you the same message. (Except on me - cos I'm stubborn as fuck).

[Bass]

Those people need to get over the "delivery" bit and see that the way forward, out of this shit motorcyclists have created for themselves, is to vocally support the message regardless of whether you like me or not.



I can go with that, but from where I am sitting, it seems to me that the people who you and I think, most need to hear the message, just don't believe that there is a problem in the first place. They are quite happy with the status quo, thank you very much and have no intention of modifying their behaviour to suit you or I or any other cunt for that matter.

Those who bother to actually argue with you in here (and by that I probably mean debate with you from some rationalised standpoint) rather than just call you a prize prick, are those who have already got the message and thought about it to some degree. So despite what they say about your delivery, you have already got your message across there anyway and so have succeeded.
It is the people who (call you a prize prick and) dismiss you as irrelevant and just go their own way, that are the people who do us the most damage. But you ain't getting to that group, which is why I contend that those who need to most, are those who are not listening.

Peer pressure may do it, but you will need to be really stubborn as it seems like a lifetime's work to me. I am sorry to say it, but for peer pressure to work, you need to have the majority on your side and it is simply contrary to human nature to expect those you irritate to side with you. You ask us to be more adult than most of us actually are.

[Katman]

Peer pressure may do it, but you will need to be really stubborn as it seems like a lifetime's work to me. I am sorry to say it, but for peer pressure to work, you need to have the majority on your side and it is simply contrary to human nature to expect those you irritate to side with you. You ask us to be more adult than most of us actually are.

I think you'll find that there's considerably more people openly supporting me now than there was 12 months ago.

(Look up the word stubborn in the dictionary - it will say Katman).

[Bass]

I think you'll find that there's considerably more people openly supporting me now than there was 12 months ago.



I actually hope I'm wrong but I suspect the key word there is "openly" if my own experience is any indication.
I think you may find that those who support you now, always have. It's just that finally, they have gotten pissed off enough to say so.
Perhaps that is enough, however.

[Katman]

Perhaps that is enough, however.

Well, it's certainly a step in the right direction.

[kiwifruit]

I think you may find that those who support you now, always have.

Na. I thought he was a right fuckwit to start with. I continued to think that until I actually thought about what he was saying as apposed to taking great offence to what he was saying.

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[Swoop]

Fucken hypocrite. Thinly veiled threats via PM including not only an invitation to 'say it to your face' but also sending your freekin address!?
It was probably his Mum's address...

I Know my son, I will talk to the mighty one and see if he can finally do something about it, but last time I complained he started a rather big flood.
Recently a Christian priest commented on those who have been sexually abused by other priests and by stating that they "should get over it".

Personally, I believe he is right. Jesus was nailed to the cross over two thousand years ago and you don't see people harping on about it now, do you?

[Bass]

Na. I thought he was a right fuckwit to start with. I continued to think that until I actually thought about what he was saying as apposed to taking great offence to what he was saying.


Cause for optimism.
Well bugger me with a great big long buggering stick.:buggerd:

[AlBundy]

People constantly say they have no problem with my message but rather with the delivery. (Delivery? What - because I swear a lot?)

You still don't get it... using people you never knew, or the facts of the accidents in which they passed, for YOUR crusade, is downright selfish and stupid. Most don't have an issue with the message but you need to FUCKING THINK about how you do it! In the above example, your message was completely lost because you stirred emotion. WRONG! Once emotions get involved, your message is screwed/fucked/lost! I find it strange you take the high ground for your message but take the low ground to get it across...

Everyone on here understands what you are trying to say but everyone has different versions of what's right and wrong. It's a conscience thing. Mine differs to yours. ONLY when I do something against MY conscience, will I stop and think. You and yours be fucked...

Keep banging your head against the wall. My only problem is that you're NOT ACTUALLY banging your head against the wall...

[Katman]

You still don't get it... using people you never knew, or the facts of the accidents in which they passed, for YOUR crusade, is downright selfish and stupid.

See, I think differently.

I've always felt that the greatest insult to those needlessly killed in motorcycle accidents is to sweep it all under the carpet and fail to learn anything from the tragedy.

(And I didn't make any insulting remark about Darryl or Bruce in that post that has got you so worked up - or in any of my posts for that matter).

[Lissa]

See, I think differently.

I've always felt that the greatest insult to those needlessly killed in motorcycle accidents is to sweep it all under the carpet and fail to learn anything from the tragedy.
The greatest insult is to think normal minded people don't learn anything from tragedy, accidents/injuries don't ya think.

[Katman]

The greatest insult is to think normal minded people don't learn anything from tragedy, accidents/injuries don't ya think.

I think it has been made abundantly clear that far too many people actually don't learn anything from these sorts of tragedies.

[Maha]

If for example I believe that I am a "stupid fuck" how do you think I'm going to behave.....?


Like a 'stupid fuck'??

I was always good at riddles.....:shifty:

[mister.koz]

I think it has been made abundantly clear that far too many people actually don't learn anything from these sorts of tragedies.

And this is based entirely on your opinion and perception of incidents unfolding as you see them?

Jeez its gotta be hard to have the ears and eyes of god and know everything, does that get exhausting?

[Katman]

Jeez its gotta be hard to have the ears and eyes of god and know everything, does that get exhausting?

Not really.

(And remember - I know when you're masturbating).

:msn-wink:

[mister.koz]

Not really.

(And remember - I know when you're masturbating).

:msn-wink:

:laugh: nice one, see i knew you were 60% serious, and 40% just winding people up.

[Ixion]

Jesus people are too serious!

Katman expresses his opinion with a canon when a slingshot will do, ...

I don't know if that was intentional or not, but either way it deserves bling. A triple pun is a rare thing! And very amusing.

[AlBundy]

Just as you have no qualms about using those passed on as examples, that's how others have no qualms about riding fast on the road. Think about it.

Well, I'm done discussing anything with you. You have your mind set on a direction, fuck the consequences or anyone involved...

Be careful who you stand on, you might just end up in a ditch one day and someone may just leave you there... After all, it wouldn't be your fault, now would it...

[Katman]

Just as you have no qualms about using those passed on as examples, that's how others have no qualms about riding fast on the road. Think about it.



The difference being, I'm trying to prevent more needless deaths - "others" seem hell bent on creating them.

[AlBundy]

Well, I'm done discussing anything with you. You have your mind set on a direction, fuck the consequences or anyone involved...

As I said before...

[Katman]

As I said before...

Oh well Al, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

[AlBundy]

Oh well Al, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

..........

[Katman]

..........

I'll take that as an admission of defeat then.

[Lissa]

I think it has been made abundantly clear that far too many people actually don't learn anything from these sorts of tragedies.
Ok so...
1. What makes you an expert? How long have you been riding? Have you ever had a speeding ticket or been in an accident yourself? Is there anything I can actually practically learn from you?
2. Probably bleating on an internet forum isnt such a great idea, the people you are trying to reach probably dont know how to read, or quickly get bored after reading the first sentence.. although I do see you are a mentor.
3. And yes I personally have learnt from others mistakes.

[AlBundy]

I'll take that as an admission of defeat then.

Not at all. I approach things differently, that's all.

And if you think life is THAT black and white, you indeed have problems.

I've also realised that you can only go 'so far' in any argument before it's on deaf ears. I reached that point long ago with you but decided to continue anyway. I'm over it now though....

[Badjelly]

I'll take that as an admission of defeat then.

You've defeated a lot of people in your time, then?

[crazefox]

fuck giving the mods more power

yeah fuck the mods

[carver]

Sharpen up bro, Im talking about the one ! you know the one you praise on Sunday am:rolleyes:

you should come with me, you can sing cant ya

[Grahameeboy]

you should come with me, you can sing cant ya


You have other talents too.....

[carver]

You have other talents too.....

mocking christians and their false god is another

[Grahameeboy]

mocking christians and their false god is another

You can mock all you like Mr C....it's a "Faith Hazard"....

[carver]

You can mock all you like Mr C....it's a "Faith Hazard"....

you know us mormons are right, the biggest hazard to you is hell

[Grahameeboy]

you know us mormons are right, the biggest hazard to you is hell

Well if I deserve to go to Hell then I accept that....

[carver]

Well if I deserve to go to Hell then I accept that....

see you there

[DarkLord]

I have been thinking...always a worry....:(


I find it odd when there are many threads / posts abusing cagers and boy racers (Are we not the ultimate boy racers??)


I do not think that we are.

Boy racers, on the whole, from my experiences with them, appear to be half-wit idiots only interested in showing off for all of their idiotic friends and trying to get laid. I had the displeasure of working with one, and he was the most hypocritical arsehole I think I have ever met. Nothing was ever his fault - everyone else was always to blame. All rights and no responsibilities.

Yes there are some dumb bikers out there. But at the same time most of the bikers I have met, in my age bracket (mid 20's) are intelligent people. If they were complete half wit idiots then they would be dead by now, especially the ones on the bigger bikes.

I just watched the news articles on these buggers, going on about how they are "sick and tired of being harassed by cops". If they weren't acting the way they do, they wouldn't get harassed, but no, of course it's the cops fault for harassing them.

[SARGE]

MEH.. IF I DONT LIKE WHAT SOMEONE SAYS OR HOW THEY SAY IT .. I JUST USE MY IGGY LIST

ITS LIKE STALAG 13 ...

NO ONE HAS EVER ESCAPED

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