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slopster
17th November 2008, 21:11
Whats the difference if any other then the obvious 150cc between the latest gix 600 and 750's. Considing the 750 as my next bike and wondering if the chassis would feel exactly like my mates 600.

klyong82
17th November 2008, 21:20
In my opinion the 750 felt like it had the maneuverability of a 600 while at the same time the torque of a 1000 so you pretty much have the best of both worlds. 750 able to keep up with the 1000 on the straights. GSXR 750 lovely bikes..

Kendog
17th November 2008, 21:39
GSXR 750 lovely bikes..

That is so true.

Ride the 600 and the 750 back to back if you can. Then you can decide if the additional money is worth it.

Cajun
18th November 2008, 07:02
well honstly the only difference is 150cc
same frame blah blah, so technially same bike.

Havin that extra 150cc normal a good 20-25 extra horse power, along with more torque, its one of the best real world bikes on. And in thory wouldn't turn in as easy as a 600, but easyer than a 1000 (due to centerfual force due to bigger cc, but thats minor).

The only downside is the 750 are a bit over price in the nz market, due to limited numbers get imported, you can often get a 1000cc for another $1k sorta move(new) .

Okey Dokey
18th November 2008, 07:18
Well, yes, what everyone else has already said. More ponies, more torque. I really like having the extra on call if I want or need it (say, to get out of trouble)

I think the 750 is the one, but it would be good if you could try both yourself. Good luck!

Usarka
18th November 2008, 07:18
The only downside is the 750 are a bit over price in the nz market, due to limited numbers get imported, you can often get a 1000cc for another $1k sorta move(new) .

Which may be not so bad when it comes to resale....?

kiwifruit
18th November 2008, 08:02
(In my experience,) the 600 is a sharper handling bike, quicker turn in. Engine is more of a screamer. I prefer the 600.

Quasievil
18th November 2008, 08:05
The 750 will provide you with torque, the 600 lacks in this regard.

handling the 750 is one of the sweetest rides I have ever had (and many know Ive had a few)

Personally I wouldnt even look at a 600 unless I was racing it, 750 is a much more versatile machine.........possibly the best sportsbike for NZ roads ever ?

vifferman
18th November 2008, 08:17
Have a read of this comparison (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/232/1402/Motorcycle-Article/2008-Suzuki-GSX-R1000-Comparison-II.aspx).

slopster
18th November 2008, 08:29
Yeah I'm happy with the hi revving power of my zx6r but want a bit more midrange. Don't want to get a thou because I'd just get fucked off if I couldn't at least ride it close to its limits. So the only ones that come to mind are the gix 750 and the daytona.

Crazy Steve
18th November 2008, 08:42
After having a GSXR750K7 and a GSXR1000K7...

You have to buy the 1000cc....The 750cc just dosnt cut it when it counts..

Believe me you will have buyers remose if you buy a 750cc.

Crazy Steve....

Oh and a message for Mr Furit....If I had Of turn up to that Karting day I would of owned all of you AGAIN ! ! !

kiwifruit
18th November 2008, 09:15
Yeah I'm happy with the hi revving power of my zx6r but want a bit more midrange. Don't want to get a thou because I'd just get fucked off if I couldn't at least ride it close to its limits. So the only ones that come to mind are the gix 750 and the daytona.

the 675 is better than the 750 and the 600, IMHO.

Pussy
18th November 2008, 09:27
There is a slight difference in the frame between the K6 onwards 600/750. The rake is .3 of a degree more on the 750. The 750 is very nimble, and the 600 feels just that bit more nimble again.
I've owned four GSX-R1000s (K1, K3, K4, K6), and can quite honestly say that my K6 GSX-R750 is the best bike I've ever owned. Sure, you have to use the gearbox a bit more than you would on a 1000, but it's no chore.
I would suggest taking a sem fiddy for a test ride, you'll love it

Katman
18th November 2008, 12:21
I prefer more of a screamer.

You're starting to worry me.

kiwifruit
18th November 2008, 12:31
You're starting to worry me.

It's big and it's bland
full of tension and fear
They do it over there but we don't do it here

boomer
18th November 2008, 12:42
In my opinion the 750 felt like it had the maneuverability of a 600 while at the same time the torque of a 1000 so you pretty much have the best of both worlds. 750 able to keep up with the 1000 on the straights. GSXR 750 lovely bikes..


you're on drugs or limp wristed if you think the 750 has a) as much torque or b) as much top end speed....!! your nuts to think they'll compete in a straight line.


i've been privileged to ride 'em all and i'd chose a 1000 based on your question. basically because you can ride the 1000 just the same way as you would a 600 or 750 but you cant ride the 600 or 750 the same way as you can a 1000.... ;)

The 600 you have to work, the 750 has more power but i expected teh gap between the 600 and 750 to be bigger and the the gap from the 750 to the 1000 to be less.. unofrtuntaley they're not and you have to make the 750 scream to ...well.... scream. The thousand will purr, scream or shout blue murder !


but if i were in the market .. i'd buy a hooligan motard toy .. one with BALLS !

Brett
18th November 2008, 17:41
I have had a K8 750 on demo for the last couple of days, and I have to say, it knocked my sox off. read my review...

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1815177#post1815177

I do also feel that they are over priced a bit for what they are though...

I think that in most situations it will be quicker from point to point than the 1000 is, and it would also be quicker point to point than the 600.

Gremlin
18th November 2008, 17:51
but if i were in the market .. i'd buy a hooligan motard toy .. one with BALLS !
heh heh heh... :lol:

The 750 is overpriced when you consider what you get for another $1k (1000) with all the torque etc, but if you don't want a 1000, the 750 will comfortably keep up with thous past the 200 mark.

Depends what you want when riding... some like to feel like they are using the bike, like the screaming etc. Others love having the torque, and not having to constantly play with the gearbox to keep it happy.

What do you like?

discotex
18th November 2008, 18:33
the 675 is better than the 750 and the 600, IMHO.

I went for the '08 CBR over the K7 750. Am sure I'd pick the 675 over it for the same reasons. They're both more torqey than the other 600's and both handle great out of the box.

The 750 pricing is just all wrong. Easier to get the 1000cc and run it in C mode if you can't handle the power :lol:

klyong82
18th November 2008, 18:50
you're on drugs or limp wristed if you think the 750 has a) as much torque or b) as much top end speed....!! your nuts to think they'll compete in a straight line.


but if i were in the market .. i'd buy a hooligan motard toy .. one with BALLS !

:laugh:Well not compete but rather keep up with the thousands. But yes each bike has its own pro's and con's.

Pussy
18th November 2008, 19:06
I know which one I'd rather ride on a twisty piece of road... and pay to maintain

cowpoos
18th November 2008, 19:40
I know which one I'd rather ride on a twisty piece of road... and pay to maintain
my gsxr 810 aye dude!!! and thats why someone should buy it!! [maybe you!! perfect motogp rep!!] its thee perfect comprimise!!

Pussy
18th November 2008, 20:04
my gsxr 810 aye dude!!! and thats why someone should buy it!! [maybe you!! perfect motogp rep!!] its thee perfect comprimise!!

Thanks once again, Poos, for the offer. The answer is still no, I'm afraid
Rest assured, when I become embarrassingly rich, I will take your 810 off your hands! :niceone:

Maki
23rd November 2008, 13:36
Seems like the people at Wellington Motorcycles reckon the 750 is better than the thou...
They want $19.250 for the 750 but $18.999 for the thou...

http://www.motorcycle.co.nz/suzuki/

slofox
29th November 2008, 12:02
If you were gonna buy a GSXR wouldya go for the 600 or 750? Reasons? No interest in anything bigger than that.........

discotex
29th November 2008, 12:38
If money isn't a deciding factor I'd get the 750. Very similar handling but the extra power is great.

If it was my money I'd be asking why I'm paying more for the 750 than the thou :blink: so the 600 would win on price.

Ride them back to back and you'll love one or the other. For me the 750 was that much more fun to ride.

slofox
29th November 2008, 12:41
If money isn't a deciding factor I'd get the 750. Very similar handling but the extra power is great.

If it was my money I'd be asking why I'm paying more for the 750 than the thou :blink: so the 600 would win on price.

Ride them back to back and you'll love one or the other. For me the 750 was that much more fun to ride.

I suspect either of them would have more than enough power to get me pinched............even the SV needs a tight rein.....:whistle:

Pussy
29th November 2008, 12:46
750 for me. Unfortunately at the moment they cost more than the 1000, only because of summerfest pricing. There are one or two brand new K7 models still about the place, they've been selling for about 16k. Good buying at that.
With the 750, you get the handling of the 600 with a lot more hp and torque. Without trying to sound like a loyal purchaser, my K6 sem fiddy is the best bike I have ever owned.... and that's after owning four GSX-R1000s as well

Brett
29th November 2008, 13:04
Yep, same for me. If money not the issue, the 750 is a fantastic package. Pretty much as nimble as my 600, but a bit more power.

discotex
29th November 2008, 13:05
I suspect either of them would have more than enough power to get me pinched............even the SV needs a tight rein.....:whistle:

Thinking about it you'd probably miss the torque down low on the 600. The 750 would be more like the SV down low but a whole other level in the high RPMs

Brett
29th November 2008, 13:08
Thinking about it you'd probably miss the torque down low on the 600. The 750 would be more like the SV down low but a whole other level in the high RPMs

Yeah I would agree with that. Riding the 600 you use the gears a lot more than on a 750. that said, point to point, I doubt there would be much time difference between the two...

boomer
29th November 2008, 13:33
Why can't idjiots use the search function..

madbikeboy
29th November 2008, 13:51
Okay, SloFox, I respect you, so none of the normal piss take stuff applies here.

I own a GSXR1000, and a K5 GSXR600. I love 'em both, but the bikes have very different personalities.

The 1000 is too much for about 100% of situations, it has far more torque (forget horsepower, its the torque that fires you out of corners and makes your tires squirm). The dilemma is that, analogous to being addicted to crack, it's not a long term plan for health and well being. 150mph wheelstands. Lighting up the rear in the dry by being careless with your right hand. This has a point, I'll get to it. The thing is, it's too much, 97% of riders wouldn't have the skills, the patience, the balls to ride it near the limit consistently. For the record, after 3-4 years with it, I'm still not good enough to ride it at the limit consistently.

So, the 600. It's a different feeling. It has very little torque, so you can use the throttle as an on/off switch - with reckless abandon. You spend more time pulling on the throttle, and you don't have enough power to effortlessly slide the bike in the same way as the 1000. The thou is like being tickled to death by a grizzly bear. The 600 is like getting a bear hug from mommy.

The problem is the lack of torque with the 600, and the excess of torque with the 1000. The earlier thous have the most torque, which is why I own a K2. Mine has been further stoked with most of my wealth (and food budget) with a sprinkling of Yoshimura parts internally and externally, making the problem worse.

So, the solution is the 750. It's the most perfectly balanced bike in the known universe, it rides wonderfully, and all of them have been great (from about 99 onwards).

It has the torque that the 600 hasn't, when the 600 frustrates with its lack of forward momentum, the 750 has the gearing that makes it feel close to the thou (but it's missing the pucker factor that thou causes).

The 750 has all the nimbleness of the 600 - it's much easier to be clean and fast than the 1000.

If you buy the 600, you'll be disappointed with it, it might take 6 months, but ultimately the 750 is so much better when even small margins make a big difference.

I'd buy a low mileage k6 or k7, and save $4000 that way. Budget the difference you save on a ohlins rear shock, and get the bike set up perfectly for you.

Don't be tempted to upgrade the exhaust, the fueling is really tough to get massively better (Power Commander + Yoshi + loads of dyno time).

If you take me seriously, take this advice, buy the 750. You'll spend the rest of the year thanking me.

dipshit
29th November 2008, 13:53
Why can't idjiots use the search function..

Because then they get yelled at for resurrecting old threads by some jerk as if such things mattered.

boomer
29th November 2008, 13:59
Because then they get yelled at for resurrecting old threads by some jerk as if such things mattered.

a 2 week old thread is old is it?? Do you have Alzheimers ??


lmfao.... :rofl:

Search criteria


+1000 +750

shows thread started 17November '08... amongst others...
(http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/search.php?searchid=4299256)


be scared of the Morons not the Mormons....

Pussy
29th November 2008, 14:04
Madbike boy has it sussed! I bought a new K6 1000 in July 06. It was a bloody PRIMO bike, just far too powerful! I toasted a SET of tyres on it in 3500km. It had a lot more low end and mid range power compared to the K1, K3 and K4 1000s I had owned previously. You have to be very careful to either a/. not light it up coming out of a corner, or b/. not get whacked in the face with the dashboard.
In Nov 06 the other half buys a new K6 sem fiddy. One week later I was the proud owner of one, too.
The sem fiddy is very nimble, with VERY usable power. Spend time above 10,000 rpm, and it's just another angry little gixxer..... or ride at near speed limit speeds, and have a bike that you can happily do 800km+ days on, with tyres, chains etc lasting a lot longer.
Go find yourself a K6 or K7 sem fiddy, you'll love it!

slofox
29th November 2008, 14:05
Why can't idjiots use the search function..

Some of us are brain dead this morning is the main reason.......

Tony.OK
29th November 2008, 14:28
, just far too powerful! I toasted a SET of tyres on it in 3500km.

3500 you lucky buggar........best I got on the road was 1900kms............now I'm down to one a day at the track.........oh the good ole days:bleh:

Have ridden my mates 07 750 and it wasn't too bad after riding my thou, def lacking punch but keep it revin and lifes all good.

Pussy
29th November 2008, 14:39
3500 you lucky buggar......

That was with an Ohlins shock and cartridges fitted too.
If we weren't sharing the roads with dickheads, and didn't have the restrictions on us, I might still own the K6 1000.
My personal preference though, by a long shot, is the bike I now own. I've had it two years as well... bloody near a record for me! And I still love it

slofox
29th November 2008, 18:40
Recently I read a review of the k8 750 which pretty much bagged the k7 and older models - basically raved about the K8. Any opinions on this from anyone?

and I HAVE used the search function this time.....:yeah:

boomer
29th November 2008, 20:38
Madbike boy has it sussed! I bought a new K6 1000 in July 06. It was a bloody PRIMO bike, just far too powerful! I toasted a SET of tyres on it in 3500km. It had a lot more low end and mid range power compared to the K1, K3 and K4 1000s I had owned previously. You have to be very careful to either a/. not light it up coming out of a corner, or b/. not get whacked in the face with the dashboard.
In Nov 06 the other half buys a new K6 sem fiddy. One week later I was the proud owner of one, too.
The sem fiddy is very nimble, with VERY usable power. Spend time above 10,000 rpm, and it's just another angry little gixxer..... or ride at near speed limit speeds, and have a bike that you can happily do 800km+ days on, with tyres, chains etc lasting a lot longer.
Go find yourself a K6 or K7 sem fiddy, you'll love it!

and compare it with a test ride against the k7/k8 600 the then k7/k8 1000...

no comparison mate,, the 1000 is all EVERYTHING you need.. its not an untamed beast like the k1,2,3,4,5 1000's.. its refined and kicks ass..

still.,.. dont take our word for it.. test ride 'em all..

Pussy
29th November 2008, 20:58
I did test ride a K7 1000... a lot slower turn in than the sem fiddy.
Love the handling of the mid size gixxer! :niceone:

boomer
29th November 2008, 21:06
I did test ride a K7 1000... a lot slower turn in than the sem fiddy.
Love the handling of the mid size gixxer! :niceone:

Sorry bro.. i was getting at madbikeboys comparison to an angry gixxer thousand.. thats not apples with apples.

im also aware that pissing in the wind is just that, the boy should test 'em all himself.

Pussy
29th November 2008, 21:10
Sorry bro.. i was getting at madbikeboys comparison to an angry gixxer thousand.. thats not apples with apples.

im also aware that pissing in the wind is just that, the boy should test 'em all himself.

Fair enough, Dunc... to each their own.
I have just personally found the sem fiddy to be the perfect compromise for me :)