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michael
3rd December 2008, 10:24
Looking at getting a back protector, but dont know what to get. Are there any brands to stay away from, and these cheap ones on trademe (see below) are they worth it? I basically dont want to pay $200 for a back protector if I can get one thats gona do the job for $50. Any advice appreciated...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Other/auction-190465807.htm

vifferman
3rd December 2008, 10:26
I've got a 7-plate Teknic for sale at $60. Of course, it's fantastic, awesome, and all that there.

wbks
3rd December 2008, 10:28
Ya suposed to wear them over the leathers or under?

racerhead
3rd December 2008, 10:33
Ya suposed to wear them over the leathers or under?

There all meant to worn under leathers

racerhead
3rd December 2008, 10:38
Meant to say aswell that I used a knox contour backprotector for a few trackdays but it was only borrowed so cant really give a long term review.
I found it very comfortable once I got used to wearing it, it only took me about 1 session before I didnt even know I was wearing it. So if I was to buy one in the morning this is what Id go for but think Id also get a chest protector aswell because theres lots of important stuff to protect there too which alot of people seem to overlook:shit:

Quasievil
3rd December 2008, 10:39
There are Back Protectors and Back Protectors

We stock the worlds leading brand KNOX which is CE certified to level 2 (the highest) I also have $90 ones which like the rest in this bracket have no certification at all.
If you put a Non CE one on then a CE KNOX one on the difference is very noticable from fit comfort and obvious quality.

KNOX incidently is the brand most high level racers use thats GP and WSB, thats not a spin, KNOX sponsor team RIZZLA for example.

I wear a KNOX AEGIS and a KNOX chest protector and the kit is definately worthy of the investment from a safety point as well as a comfort point.

Check out www.qmoto.co.nz (http://www.qmoto.co.nz)

This will give you some info

Quasievil
3rd December 2008, 10:41
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Other/auction-190465807.htm

That one wont do for the track, its little more than a Kidney belt. Better than nothing though mate

michael
3rd December 2008, 10:44
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Other/auction-190465807.htm

That one wont do for the track, its little more than a Kidney belt. Better than nothing though mate

ye had a sneaky feeling it was shit-house, but wen u've neva worn one before its hard to know whats good and whats not

Quasievil
3rd December 2008, 11:29
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ye had a sneaky feeling it was shit-house, but wen u've neva worn one before its hard to know whats good and whats not

Yes I understand that mate, KNOX is the best simple as that, many try to have one as good but if you ever get to try on a KNOX its a completely different level of quality and safety

Swoop
3rd December 2008, 11:43
Yes I understand that mate, KNOX is the best simple as that, many try to have one as good but if you ever get to try on a KNOX its a completely different level of quality and safety
Hey Quasi!

Any word on the new gloves yet?? The Scaphoid protection-type?:drool:

michael
3rd December 2008, 11:55
[quote=michael;1835117]

Yes I understand that mate, KNOX is the best simple as that, many try to have one as good but if you ever get to try on a KNOX its a completely different level of quality and safety

Ok I get the point, ur sounding like a salesman now. Unfortunately being a student I do have to put a price on my life (even if it isn't as much as I'd like it to be). But thanks for the advice anyway.

wbks
3rd December 2008, 12:46
Is that padding in the back of leathers (like in my teknic 2 piece) good enough or are back protectors still needed? If not, why even have padding on the back?

michael
3rd December 2008, 12:49
Is that padding in the back of leathers (like in my teknic 2 piece) good enough or are back protectors still needed? If not, why even have padding on the back?

Go try on a back protector and you'll see the difference, it's alot stiffer.

Radar
3rd December 2008, 13:31
Looking at getting a back protector, but dont know what to get. Are there any brands to stay away from, and these cheap ones on trademe (see below) are they worth it? I basically dont want to pay $200 for a back protector if I can get one thats gona do the job for $50. Any advice appreciated...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Other/auction-190465807.htm

The one shown on that link is made by Prexport (legit Italian business) and is CE (quality certified) but it is only a 3 shield protector. The same Trademe vendor has a 4 shield protector - check "other listings". I have the Prexport 7 shield protector and am happy with it. Ring Supacross Cycles in Hamilton (google the number) and see if they have a protector larger than 3 or 4 shield - I did this and they directed me to their Chch branch where the 7 shield was.

Most road bikers do not wear extra back or knee protection. I do, except for some short trips in town. When another rider asks me if the extra protection is worthwhile, I try to pick up a rock or hammer and bang it against my knee, then say to them "OK, your turn!"

Usually you get what you pay for, but not always. Some gear is simply overpriced. Try to get a CE certification, but even if its cheap and uncertified you will be better off than without the extra protection.

wbks
3rd December 2008, 13:37
You can get better knee protection then the rock solid stuff you get in most two or one piece leathers? I just dropped strait onto my knees onto a solid marble path wearing them and I barely fealt it. And I have repetitive knee injuries so I would know if it hurt

Quasievil
3rd December 2008, 14:18
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Ok I get the point, ur sounding like a salesman now. Unfortunately being a student I do have to put a price on my life (even if it isn't as much as I'd like it to be). But thanks for the advice anyway.

Mate I got them for $80 plus courier if you like a lower price one, they arent CE but many have gone down and been better off for wearing them (me included)

If you want one check them out at www.qmoto.co.nz (http://www.qmoto.co.nz) mate

Quasievil
3rd December 2008, 14:19
Hey Quasi!

Any word on the new gloves yet?? The Scaphoid protection-type?:drool:

Hi the Qmoto KNOX SPS gloves arrive tomorrow YAYAYAYAYAYA

So all good from tomorrow mate

Quasievil
3rd December 2008, 14:20
Is that padding in the back of leathers (like in my teknic 2 piece) good enough or are back protectors still needed? If not, why even have padding on the back?

Those will offer the same protection as a cheese sandwich there is no benifit from having it there.

Radar
3rd December 2008, 14:49
[quote=michael;1835189]

Mate I got them for $80 plus courier if you like a lower price one, they arent CE but many have gone down and been better off for wearing them (me included)

If you want one check them out at www.qmoto.co.nz (http://www.qmoto.co.nz) mate

For the money that looks very good. :niceone:
It may not have CE but you will be better off wearing it if you bin and hit your back!

discotex
3rd December 2008, 16:56
Ok I get the point, ur sounding like a salesman now. Unfortunately being a student I do have to put a price on my life (even if it isn't as much as I'd like it to be). But thanks for the advice anyway.

What he's saying it true. I have a KNOX Aegis from Quasi and it's freakin awesome. Barely even notice it and it fits so much better than all the others.

The Aegis is CE level 2 which is a big step up from CE level 1.


Is that padding in the back of leathers (like in my teknic 2 piece) good enough or are back protectors still needed? If not, why even have padding on the back?

Doesn't do shit. Better than nothing but get someone to hit your spine with a hammer with the foam while imagining yourself sliding over a big rock or curb and you'll know what I mean. Try it with a proper back protector and you'll see why some of us swear by them.



For the money that looks very good. :niceone:
It may not have CE but you will be better off wearing it if you bin and hit your back!

I crash tested one of Quasi's non CE ones and it did the job. Didn't land directly on my back or slide over rocks/curb though as it was at the track. If you're on a budget it's a decent back protector. If you're after top protection go for the Aegis.

Gizzit
3rd December 2008, 19:22
I agree. I bought an Knox Aegis back protector for my wife and myself from Quasi, and I recommend them. They are comfortable, and if I/we ever have to use them, at least we know that we have the best protection available.
My rational for spending that amount for back protection was that if i had it, it may save my life and/or keep me from being in a wheelchair.
I would hate to have gone for a cheap (non CE) protector, have an accident that left me paralyzed, and wish I had spent another $100 or so.
For me it's about what price do you put on your health / safety?
Best of luck with your choice. Anything will probably be better than nothing!

Tony.OK
3rd December 2008, 20:03
I've got a brand new one I don't need, its a large but more like a medium. Someone can have it for $50 + postage.
Not top of the line but not crap either.

PM me if interested.

scracha
3rd December 2008, 20:10
The knox stuff is top notch. Had mine for years, used it daily and it's still in good nick.

roadracingoldfart
3rd December 2008, 20:25
The knox stuff is top notch. Had mine for years, used it daily and it's still in good nick.

And trust me ........



He knows how to crash lmfao :lol: :2thumbsup :buggerd:

Coyote
3rd December 2008, 20:45
QUASIMOTO Apparel is the best!


Do I get paid now?

roadracingoldfart
3rd December 2008, 20:59
QUASIMOTO Apparel is the best!


Do I get paid now?


Ohhh will you two get a room .

Coyote
3rd December 2008, 21:02
Ohhh will you two get a room .
Yes please! Cause nothing turns me on more than QUASIMOTO! It's the best in motorcycle related riding apparel!

imdying
3rd December 2008, 21:15
I'm sorely tempted by the Knox gear, would love to see it in the flesh if anyone in chch has a chest or back protector. The wife will expect little ones in due course (sooner rather than later), it seems appropriate that, should we go down t that row, that I'm around to care for them, even in the event of the unthinkable. Cheap insurance, and probably worth more than those homos at State give me.

That's unfair, they've looked after me well over the years :blush:

AlBundy
4th December 2008, 01:08
I've had a Knox since about 1996... A mate went off the outside of a corner and landed on rocks. His leathers were ripped to shreds and his back protector had gashes in them. If it wasn't for his back protector, he wouldn't have walked away.

I bought mine within that next week... I wear it every time I wear leathers...

scracha
4th December 2008, 07:40
And trust me ........

He knows how to crash lmfao :lol: :2thumbsup :buggerd:

Oy you. Wasn't me pulling CBR power wheelies off the start line LOL

jrandom
4th December 2008, 07:44
I just bought a Knox Contour Race off Quasi. It's streets ahead of any back protector I've ever tried on. Goes right down over the coccyx, hugs the whole back firmly but without pressing uncomfortably anywhere, and is as light as a feather. Beautiful.

And then there's that CE Level 2 certification.

$370, but worth every penny if you can afford it, IMHO.

Quasievil
4th December 2008, 07:47
I'm sorely tempted by the Knox gear, would love to see it in the flesh if anyone in chch has a chest or back protector. The wife will expect little ones in due course (sooner rather than later), it seems appropriate that, should we go down t that row, that I'm around to care for them, even in the event of the unthinkable. Cheap insurance, and probably worth more than those homos at State give me.

That's unfair, they've looked after me well over the years :blush:

I can send you a COntour and A Aegis down to have a look at, we will secure it against a hold on a Credit Crad if cool, then you pick one send one back and we charge your card?
Hows that for a plan ??

BTW Spine T11-L2 is ejaculation and S2-S4 is Sexual function, I know KNOX have it on the protection guides, so tell that to the wife and tell her you both need a KNOX protector! lol

roadracingoldfart
4th December 2008, 17:38
Oy you. Wasn't me pulling CBR power wheelies off the start line LOL

Thats the subtle differance between your bike and mine (Nickis) one has power and the other has a dream !!!!! :2guns::scooter::blink:

Tony.OK
4th December 2008, 17:53
Thats the subtle differance between your bike and mine (Nickis) one has power and the other has a dream !!!!! :2guns::scooter::blink:

Ohh ouch:clap:

yomikey
4th December 2008, 18:51
I picked up a Knox protector from Quasi today, then rode home the real long way to try it out. Far superior to my previous one. Highly recommended. Bret was a bloody good bloke to deal with as well.

scracha
4th December 2008, 19:38
Thats the subtle differance between your bike and mine (Nickis) one has power and the other has a dream !!!!! :2guns::scooter::blink:

Who needs power when you have this much talent?:girlfight:

roadracingoldfart
4th December 2008, 20:39
Who needs power when you have this much talent?:girlfight:

Ummm , you !! ?? :apint:

m99dws
4th December 2008, 21:37
Here's a (slightly older) link to some back protectors reviewed in the UK by Ride magazine: http://www.ridetriangles.com/pdf/669/245369.pdf

I only wish I could find the article they did a while back where they did impact tests on some of the major back protectors V's a cheese sandwich. Let's just say the back protectors didn't out perform the tasty snack.

Gizzit
5th December 2008, 11:52
Here's a (slightly older) link to some back protectors reviewed in the UK by Ride magazine: http://www.ridetriangles.com/pdf/669/245369.pdf

I only wish I could find the article they did a while back where they did impact tests on some of the major back protectors V's a cheese sandwich. Let's just say the back protectors didn't out perform the tasty snack.

Well .. I'll tell you what .... all racers use them, obviously for a very good reason!
You wear your "tasty snack/cheese sandwich" in the back of your jacket, and I'll just struggle on by with my CE level 2 certified Knox Aegis back protector.
I still fancy my chances of being better protected in a crash, than you .... :whistle:

HenryDorsetCase
5th December 2008, 13:00
No more dissing the cheese sandwich, OK? a suitably grilled cheese sandwich is delicious, and the thin crust would surely give at least a CE level of .5?


I wear a back protector pretty much all the time (basically any ride longer than 10 mins). I am still trying to decide wheter to special order an aegis in small.

Gizzit
5th December 2008, 15:59
No more dissing the cheese sandwich, OK? a suitably grilled cheese sandwich is delicious, and the thin crust would surely give at least a CE level of .5?

Is that Edam .... or Mild ?? Surely the fat content must make a difference in CE level ??!!



I wear a back protector pretty much all the time (basically any ride longer than 10 mins). I am still trying to decide wheter to special order an aegis in small.

I don't know what you use, but I find the Aegis really comfortable to wear ... as in it's not really noticeable. I think it's worth the piece of mind factor !
Cheers.

m99dws
6th December 2008, 09:04
Well .. I'll tell you what .... all racers use them, obviously for a very good reason!
You wear your "tasty snack/cheese sandwich" in the back of your jacket, and I'll just struggle on by with my CE level 2 certified Knox Aegis back protector.
I still fancy my chances of being better protected in a crash, than you .... :whistle:

You're missing the point entirely...

I mean, it wasn't even toasted!

Gizzit
6th December 2008, 09:18
You're missing the point entirely...

I mean, it wasn't even toasted!

Silly me ..... oh God no ..... that makes all the difference !!! I mean who would provide something like that .... and not even toast it !!! Pfffttt !!!
I mean ..... who do you get in touch with about that .... ??? :shit: :gob:

Wet
12th December 2008, 11:13
I am presuming tha tyou can wear these back protectors under your jacket.

I have been looking at a couple and was wondering about the importance and difference of a CE rated protector.

Comments welcome.

discotex
12th December 2008, 11:31
I am presuming tha tyou can wear these back protectors under your jacket.

I have been looking at a couple and was wondering about the importance and difference of a CE rated protector.

Comments welcome.

Yes they go under your jacket.

As for importance and difference of CE... Would you wear motorcycle helmet that hadn't passed any tests (DOT/Snell/etc)? CE rating proves it works and to what level. Level 2 is the highest.

wysper
12th December 2008, 12:24
Those will offer the same protection as a cheese sandwich there is no benifit from having it there.

So would it be possible to have the 'cheese sandwich' removed from one of your jackets upon buying a proper back protector? Seems silly to get cheese all over the new back protector in event of a crash.

Quasievil
12th December 2008, 17:35
So would it be possible to have the 'cheese sandwich' removed from one of your jackets upon buying a proper back protector? Seems silly to get cheese all over the new back protector in event of a crash.

Yes take it out and put in a real one mate