Conditions of class 6L/R licence... loophole?

[coop]

On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'. It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'.

Would this stand up, say in court, if one of us on our 6L or R were to get done on a larger bike, or out of hours?

From memory, I could not remember signing for the conditions of my licence, only for saying the particulars on the application sheet were correct. I only recieved a leaflet saying what the conditions were after I sat and passed the test. Surely we would have a leg to stand on with this issue if we were to get caught?

Just something that crossed my mind while looking at my licence.

Cheers.

[scumdog]

Far out, words fail me....

[DingoZ]

Far out, words fail me....

:crazy:....Lost for words as well.....:gob:

[Wingnut]

On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'. It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'.

Would this stand up, say in court, if one of us on our 6L or R were to get done on a larger bike, or out of hours?

From memory, I could not remember signing for the conditions of my licence, only for saying the particulars on the application sheet were correct. I only recieved a leaflet saying what the conditions were after I sat and passed the test. Surely we would have a leg to stand on with this issue if we were to get caught?

Just something that crossed my mind while looking at my licence.

Cheers.


Hey I see what you mean. Mine has no conditions regarding the 100kph speed limit - so I guess its a free for all.

Oh dear oh dear

[Virago]

Does it say "You must obey road rules"? If not, perhaps you could cheerfully ignore all road rules, confident that your licence excludes you from those requirements also...

[oscarnz]

On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'. It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'.

Would this stand up, say in court, if one of us on our 6L or R were to get done on a larger bike, or out of hours?

From memory, I could not remember signing for the conditions of my licence, only for saying the particulars on the application sheet were correct. I only recieved a leaflet saying what the conditions were after I sat and passed the test. Surely we would have a leg to stand on with this issue if we were to get caught?

Just something that crossed my mind while looking at my licence.

Cheers.

No it is not a loophole at all, legislation states if you hold a 6L or 6R etc you must obey the conditions of those classes.
If you get caught breaching the conditions of a licence then its a $400 fine and 25 demerits for each breach, so riding out of hours and on a bigger bike would be $800 and 50 demerits.
So no will not stand up in court, sorry to burst your bubble.

[CB ARGH]

There's an idea! Let's have a BOOK for a license! :eek5:

If one was to list all the conditions/restrictions for the class of license, oh dear, that would be a big piece of plastic to fit into the wallet.

No, it would not stand up in court. :bash:

[scracha]

On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'. It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'.


Shit yeah, you could probably fly a plane on that license too.

[Duke girl]

Exactly what Oscarnz said is what will happen if you dont obey the law for 6L as well as 6R Licence holder. If you want to keep your licence then Im sure you know what to do.

[Madness]

On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'.
This is a condition that is not applicable to everyone that holds that particular class of licence. It is applicble to you (and me) and as such, is printed on your (and mine too) licence.


It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'
These are conditions that apply to everyone that holds that particular class of licence. As such, there is no real need to specify these conditions on your own drivers licence, is there?.


If you get caught breaching the conditions of a licence then its a $400 fine and 25 demerits for each breach, so riding out of hours and on a bigger bike would be $800 and 50 demerits.
I'm pretty sure they can only "award" one lot of demerits for multiple offences at a single time. They will "award" the higher of any multiple demerits incurred and the rest don't get recorded. AFAIK for the scenario you described above, it would be $800 and 25 points.

[coop]

This is a condition that is not applicable to everyone that holds that particular class of licence. It is applicble to you (and me) and as such, is printed on your (and mine too) licence.


These are conditions that apply to everyone that holds that particular class of licence. As such, there is no real need to specify these conditions on your own drivers licence, is there?.




Yeah, I had realised that after typing the above, as well as the fact all conditions are laid out in the road code.

[Shadows]

Ignorance of the law is no defence. Neither is being a dumbarse!

[Gremlin]

Far out, words fail me....
I wish this had been on motorway patrol or something... to see the reaction on the officer's face :killingme

[Titanium]

On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'. It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'.

Would this stand up, say in court, if one of us on our 6L or R were to get done on a larger bike, or out of hours?

From memory, I could not remember signing for the conditions of my licence, only for saying the particulars on the application sheet were correct. I only recieved a leaflet saying what the conditions were after I sat and passed the test. Surely we would have a leg to stand on with this issue if we were to get caught?

Just something that crossed my mind while looking at my licence.

Cheers.

Give it a go and let us know how it ends for you .......:wacko:

[FJRider]

Ignorance of the law is no defence. Neither is being a dumbarse!

Perhaps we oughta talk to John Key... Make being a dumbarse an offence... worth at least 25 demerits... :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[Matt_TG]

Thanks all for the first real laugh of the day :)

[Patrick]

On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'. It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'.

Would this stand up, say in court, if one of us on our 6L or R were to get done on a larger bike, or out of hours?

From memory, I could not remember signing for the conditions of my licence, only for saying the particulars on the application sheet were correct. I only recieved a leaflet saying what the conditions were after I sat and passed the test. Surely we would have a leg to stand on with this issue if we were to get caught?

Just something that crossed my mind while looking at my licence.

Cheers.


That sounds like a great idea. Do it. Can I call you Forrest GUMP if I stop ya? (Stoopid is as Stoopid does?) I need the quota.....

My licence doesn't say I have to stick to 100kmph, not ride into oncoming traffic on the wrong side of the motorway... the list is endless...

[chester]

did you get your licence from the weekbix packet?

[Laxi]

when you sign ur liscence your signing for all the condiyions, not just the ones listed, its your job to know them, i agree with all the restrictions placed on l & R platers exept the 70km limit, i just ignore that 1 completely on the highway, been pulled up 1ce and i told the cop id rather pay the fine than be a menace on the road and get tale gated at 70, he let me go so they can probably see the stupidity themselves

[Howsie]

Perhaps we oughta talk to John Key... Make being a dumbarse an offence... worth at least 25 demerits... :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

I second that motion! I dont know how some people get their licence these days! The police would be laughing all the way to the bank......

[prettybillie]

No it is not a loophole at all, legislation states if you hold a 6L or 6R etc you must obey the conditions of those classes.
If you get caught breaching the conditions of a licence then its a $400 fine and 25 demerits for each breach, so riding out of hours and on a bigger bike would be $800 and 50 demerits.
So no will not stand up in court, sorry to burst your bubble.

This dude knows his shizzle

[The Stranger]

On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'. It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'.

Would this stand up, say in court, if one of us on our 6L or R were to get done on a larger bike, or out of hours?

From memory, I could not remember signing for the conditions of my licence, only for saying the particulars on the application sheet were correct. I only recieved a leaflet saying what the conditions were after I sat and passed the test. Surely we would have a leg to stand on with this issue if we were to get caught?

Just something that crossed my mind while looking at my licence.

Cheers.

Fuck man, you're on to something there. Try it out and let us know how you get on eh?

[ynot slow]

Shit I should have used that excuse years ago when I was DIC,no officer it says nothing about Not being able to drive pissed on my license,but they liked my too pissed to walk comment.

[Zoolander]

Yeah, I had realised that after typing the above, as well as the fact all conditions are laid out in the road code.

How the f**k did you get your license without realising the conditions are spelled out in the road code? Is it one of those Maori licenses au?

Stay the hell away from me when you're on the road!!

[Tank]

I just looked at the back of my license and it said nothing about riding naked and masturbating - so Sweet - next time I get pulled over for that - Im fighting it!

[NighthawkNZ]

On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'. It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'.

Would this stand up, say in court, if one of us on our 6L or R were to get done on a larger bike, or out of hours?

From memory, I could not remember signing for the conditions of my licence, only for saying the particulars on the application sheet were correct. I only recieved a leaflet saying what the conditions were after I sat and passed the test. Surely we would have a leg to stand on with this issue if we were to get caught?

Just something that crossed my mind while looking at my licence.

Cheers.

Ummmmmm...i'm lost for words... ummmm will have to do :mellow:

[kiwi cowboy]

Ummmmmm...i'm lost for words... ummmm will have to do :mellow:

Ummmmmmmmmmmm is all you can say or was the last time i saw ya oh that and Ugggggggggghhhh :innocent:merry xmas:yes::yes:

[quickbuck]

Fuck man, you're on to something there. Try it out and let us know how you get on eh?

What i was thinking.... and to think he has 2 & 4 too......

[gixxer-king]

I second that motion! I dont know how some people get their licence these days! The police would be laughing all the way to the bank......

presented, second, and past. all dumb questions will now get you 25 demerits.

Sorry i know you were just testing us but come on. although in his defense writing that you need glasses to see on the back of a licence is pretty dumb also. would a g in a bottom cornor not point out to police that driver/rider must wear lenses?

[Howsie]

presented, second, and past. all dumb questions will now get you 25 demerits.

Sorry i know you were just testing us but come on. although in his defense writing that you need glasses to see on the back of a licence is pretty dumb also. would a g in a bottom cornor not point out to police that driver/rider must wear lenses?

I believe it would but i think it needs to be a bit more prominent than just a "g" in a corner somewhere. It is a serious issue if you cannot see well....

[nico]

No it is not a loophole at all, legislation states if you hold a 6L or 6R etc you must obey the conditions of those classes.
If you get caught breaching the conditions of a licence then its a $400 fine and 25 demerits for each breach, so riding out of hours and on a bigger bike would be $800 and 50 demerits.
So no will not stand up in court, sorry to burst your bubble.

my thaught's exactly i aint the greatst example but you gota do ya time on the 250 m8 get those skills up you'l need em come time to ride a big bike:devil2:

[Howsie]

What i was thinking.... and to think he has 2 & 4 too......

Hey Coop, how bout the conditions for your 2 & 4 licence also? Shouldnt they be printed on the back as well? :p

[nico]

Hey Coop, how bout the conditions for your 2 & 4 licence also? Shouldnt they be printed on the back as well? :p

you missed1, 3,5, D,F,p,P,T,W,R all you guys have these aswell dont ya?

[Howsie]

you missed1, 3,5, D,F,p,P,T,W,R all you guys have these aswell dont ya?

Haha showoff!! I only have 1 but looking at F soon, P would be an extra and the rest are too bloody expensive!

[MsKABC]

I believe it would but i think it needs to be a bit more prominent than just a "g" in a corner somewhere. It is a serious issue if you cannot see well....

Yes, but even printing the condition itself on the back of the licence is a bit moot. I have that condition on mine, but I wear contacts nearly always when driving. I have been asked by police when stopped if I'm wearing contacts, to which I reply "Yes", but the only way to prove it for sure is to take 'em out and show 'em :) I guess if they suspected something, they'd be within their rights to ask you to do that *shrugs*

[Howsie]

Yes, but even printing the condition itself on the back of the licence is a bit moot. I have that condition on mine, but I wear contacts nearly always when driving. I have been asked by police when stopped if I'm wearing contacts, to which I reply "Yes", but the only way to prove it for sure is to take 'em out and show 'em :) I guess if they suspected something, they'd be within their rights to ask you to do that *shrugs*

Agreed but at least it lets the officer know that this persons eyes are a bit on the dodgy side. At the very least you have made him wait while you take one out and show him/her!

Or you could just get some coloured contacts aswell "Yes officer, i always have fire in my eyes when i drive!" :eek:

[nico]

Haha showoff!! I only have 1 but looking at F soon, P would be an extra and the rest are too bloody expensive!
and you would need a minumin of class 2 to hold a P btw
blody expencive P(bus) alone is around $540 for 5 years p(taxi) is around the same and cost more when i dont use them all any more it's not nice when i get the letter to renew my lience's oh and ass a 10 year life time fire arms one to that list as well :bleh:

[Howsie]

blody expencive P(bus) alone is around $540 for 5 years p(taxi) is around the same and cost more when i dont use them all any more it's not nice when i get the letter to renew my lience's oh and ass a 10 year life time fire arms one to that list as well :bleh:

Sounds like you were definitely born for the road then! I bet there are not many people that have all those letters and numbers on their licence :)

[nico]

Sounds like you were definitely born for the road then! I bet there are not many people that have all those letters and numbers on their licence :)
and i was a wisker away from having a I (driving instructor) infront of all of them as well.

[Howsie]

and i was a wisker away from having a I (driving instructor) infront of all of them as well.

So you didnt quite cut it? :p

Hours of driving involved there. :scooter:

[nico]

So you didnt quite cut it? :p


Hours of driving involved there. :scooter:
lets just say i left b4 the course was run did fly thru the pre exams though
one of the tests being to complete all of the scratchie exams (class 1 thru 6)without one wrong answer that was tough

[Howsie]

lets just say i left b4 the course was run did fly thru the pre exams though
one of the tests being to complete all of the scratchie exams (class 1 thru 6)without one wrong answer that was tough

No offense intended mate, was just having some fun with the analogy :)

:gob: 1 through 6 with no mistakes!! that would take some serious study

i even got 2 wrong on my 6L "shock horror"! let alone all the other classes with their weight limits and stuff. My hat is off to you sir :2thumbsup

[Owl]

This dude knows his shizzle

You mean her!!!:rolleyes: