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    Conditions of class 6L/R licence... loophole?

    On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'. It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'.

    Would this stand up, say in court, if one of us on our 6L or R were to get done on a larger bike, or out of hours?

    From memory, I could not remember signing for the conditions of my licence, only for saying the particulars on the application sheet were correct. I only recieved a leaflet saying what the conditions were after I sat and passed the test. Surely we would have a leg to stand on with this issue if we were to get caught?

    Just something that crossed my mind while looking at my licence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coop View Post
    On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'. It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'.

    Would this stand up, say in court, if one of us on our 6L or R were to get done on a larger bike, or out of hours?

    From memory, I could not remember signing for the conditions of my licence, only for saying the particulars on the application sheet were correct. I only recieved a leaflet saying what the conditions were after I sat and passed the test. Surely we would have a leg to stand on with this issue if we were to get caught?

    Just something that crossed my mind while looking at my licence.

    Cheers.

    Hey I see what you mean. Mine has no conditions regarding the 100kph speed limit - so I guess its a free for all.

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    Does it say "You must obey road rules"? If not, perhaps you could cheerfully ignore all road rules, confident that your licence excludes you from those requirements also...
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    Quote Originally Posted by coop View Post
    On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'. It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'.

    Would this stand up, say in court, if one of us on our 6L or R were to get done on a larger bike, or out of hours?

    From memory, I could not remember signing for the conditions of my licence, only for saying the particulars on the application sheet were correct. I only recieved a leaflet saying what the conditions were after I sat and passed the test. Surely we would have a leg to stand on with this issue if we were to get caught?

    Just something that crossed my mind while looking at my licence.

    Cheers.
    No it is not a loophole at all, legislation states if you hold a 6L or 6R etc you must obey the conditions of those classes.
    If you get caught breaching the conditions of a licence then its a $400 fine and 25 demerits for each breach, so riding out of hours and on a bigger bike would be $800 and 50 demerits.
    So no will not stand up in court, sorry to burst your bubble.
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    There's an idea! Let's have a BOOK for a license!

    If one was to list all the conditions/restrictions for the class of license, oh dear, that would be a big piece of plastic to fit into the wallet.

    No, it would not stand up in court.


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    Quote Originally Posted by coop View Post
    On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'. It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'.
    Shit yeah, you could probably fly a plane on that license too.
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    Exactly what Oscarnz said is what will happen if you dont obey the law for 6L as well as 6R Licence holder. If you want to keep your licence then Im sure you know what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coop View Post
    On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'.
    This is a condition that is not applicable to everyone that holds that particular class of licence. It is applicble to you (and me) and as such, is printed on your (and mine too) licence.

    Quote Originally Posted by coop View Post
    It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'
    These are conditions that apply to everyone that holds that particular class of licence. As such, there is no real need to specify these conditions on your own drivers licence, is there?.

    Quote Originally Posted by oscarnz View Post
    If you get caught breaching the conditions of a licence then its a $400 fine and 25 demerits for each breach, so riding out of hours and on a bigger bike would be $800 and 50 demerits.
    I'm pretty sure they can only "award" one lot of demerits for multiple offences at a single time. They will "award" the higher of any multiple demerits incurred and the rest don't get recorded. AFAIK for the scenario you described above, it would be $800 and 25 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    This is a condition that is not applicable to everyone that holds that particular class of licence. It is applicble to you (and me) and as such, is printed on your (and mine too) licence.


    These are conditions that apply to everyone that holds that particular class of licence. As such, there is no real need to specify these conditions on your own drivers licence, is there?.

    Yeah, I had realised that after typing the above, as well as the fact all conditions are laid out in the road code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coop View Post
    On my licence (1,2,4,6R), it has conditions printed on the back, that being 'Correcting lenses must be used at all time while driving'. It doesn't say 'cannot operate motorcycle bigger than 250cc, cannot ride between the hours of blah blah'.

    Would this stand up, say in court, if one of us on our 6L or R were to get done on a larger bike, or out of hours?

    From memory, I could not remember signing for the conditions of my licence, only for saying the particulars on the application sheet were correct. I only recieved a leaflet saying what the conditions were after I sat and passed the test. Surely we would have a leg to stand on with this issue if we were to get caught?

    Just something that crossed my mind while looking at my licence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadows View Post
    Ignorance of the law is no defence. Neither is being a dumbarse!
    Perhaps we oughta talk to John Key... Make being a dumbarse an offence... worth at least 25 demerits...
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