A question to any cops here

[wbks]

When someone assaults people and drives around in a stolen car and breaks into houses and is already breaking bail for other offenses do you actually look for them or just hope he stays in the same spot for long enough when he gets 111 called on him for you to catch him? Or wait for the stolen car he is driving to roll right past you? This is a serious question... Do you actually look for people like this or wait for them to do something and then hope he waits for you to turn up afterwards? Once again not a dig I'm just curious

[nallac]

you missed the main point/question.

was he speeding

if so he'll be caught......

[wbks]

I've given up being pissed off at the cops. Yes its true it seems 5 mins through anywhere in auckland speeding on your bike you seem to get pulled up atleast onces yet this gets nothing. I just don't get it. Maybe it's because they are focussed on "bigger things" by their system or maybe with the other things they deal with, this may not seem so urgent. But waiting up untill 3am every morning with a big spanner waiting for your sisters psycho psmoking ex bf to turn up at the gate every night while everyone is bitting each others heads off over the stress is not my idea of a merry christmas. And its been more of less this way every this time of year.

[bully]

you get revenue from speeders.

[nallac]

you get revenue from speeders.

oh soooooo true.....

[vtec]

When I had a $20,000 car stolen, I was sent a form by the police to fill out 3 months later. Not a dig, just an observation/experience.

Speeding/lack of warrant of fitness/registration, they're all over me like a fly on shit... That makes me the shit and them the fly.

[wbks]

Just to make this clear this isn't a thread to bag on cops for what ever reason. I just had a question to ask. That said, thanks for your reply's I just wanted to make sure any cops that view the thread don't think I'm trying to give them shit and don't reply

[Mom]

Waiting for the bagging to start here but I have to say something...

If you know of a person who is driving a stolen car, is breaking into houses AND who is on bail why the hell are you not reporting this dick to the Police? Everyday if that is what it takes to get some action. Seriously, why? I obviously dont have all the facts here, but reading between your lines you have a very serious personal safety issue happening in your family. It needs sorting, sooner rather than later. Police are not our enemy mate. They rely on our help to make our communities safe :yes:

As far as the HP go...

My spin, dont friggen speed in built up areas. Posted speed limits of 50/60/70 are there for a reason. You get pinged speeding in those areas then good job! Chuck the biggest book they can find at you!

Open road stuff, you speed you take your chances. That is a game for everyone playing.

Report this "situation" everyday, twice a day if needs be. Do it nicely, express your concerns, dont stop untill you are sure you and yours are safe.

Take care eh!

[AllanB]

Cops are cool buggers, stuffed if I'd like to their jobs at this time of the year, knocking on doors telling a family their loved one has just been killed by a drunk driver etc.

The only thing I don't like is the uniform - they need a NZ designer to improve it, some well fitted shirts & trou instead of those nylon looking outfits they have with the trousers pulled up to their nipples.

Something a bit more argo and hard looking as well - maybe a bit more Matrix. Yeah something to demand respect - you know when they get out of their vehicle and walk towards you you'll think 'oh shit' and suck in it.


Merry Christmas to all KB cops.

[wbks]

Hey mom he's been reported by us every thing he does. We've been calling the cops every day atleast once, yesterday and today for example about 3 times to every one around this side of auckland to try and get their attention. And we have been doing our best to get noticed and be polite at the same time but so far all we seem to be able to do is make sure they are ready to deal with him as soon as they get the call and make sure they know what they're dealing with. He's already been reported so many times for all this stuff from us which is why I can't understand if its just that there are no cops assigned to this stuff, they aren't allowed to do much untill he actually gets someone with the screwdriver this time or what.

[MadDuck]

Can I just say from my latest experience that the police probably know what is going on and are just waiting for the opportunity to act.

It may take more than 3 phone calls as they need to be absolutely sure before taking action. Surely that is fair enough? Our police are really stretched at this time of year but be persistant as every call is logged.

The police have certainly come through for me this week after 2 months of hell and persistancy.

[wbks]

I just assume that after all he's done that is enough to have atleast one cop proactively looking for him. To arrest on all he's done.

[Toaster]

When someone assaults people and drives around in a stolen car and breaks into houses and is already breaking bail for other offenses do you actually look for them or just hope he stays in the same spot for long enough when he gets 111 called on him for you to catch him? Or wait for the stolen car he is driving to roll right past you? This is a serious question... Do you actually look for people like this or wait for them to do something and then hope he waits for you to turn up afterwards? Once again not a dig I'm just curious

Hell yeah.... all good cops go for these ones, but you need to remember its like looking for a moving needle in a hay stack of needles on a conveyorbelt.

You can't find em' unless you have information that point you to them. Crystal balls are not part of police car equipment.

Many a wanted crim came a cropper via copper by being dumb..... i.e. drawing attention to oneself by either or all of the following....

Looking dodgy
Driving a KNOWN TO BE STOLEN car
Speeding
Not wearing a seatbelt
Riding a Honda
Breaking basically any road rule that draws attention, gets you pulled over and run through the system.
BUSTED.

[Dave Lobster]

Try sitting in a court for an afternoon.

I did it the other day in Auckland.

The police nick these vermin.. and they get bailed. To reoffend.. even if they're on bail and they reoffend.. the police bring them back into court.. and they get bailed again. WTF is the point of the police arresting them?

These are people whose whole life revolves around criminal activity. Not just the odd red light jumped.. but their WHOLE LIFE. And they get sent back into the community.

[wbks]

Well hes driving around in a stolen car so not sure why they haven't seen him. They checked at his addy's suposedly and hes not there so I don't know.

[Mom]

Well hes driving around in a stolen car so not sure why they haven't seen him. They checked at his addy's suposedly and hes not there so I don't know.

Just keep on doing what you are doing mate. Sorry you are getting such a bunch of crap at the moment.

[Patrick]

Well hes driving around in a stolen car so not sure why they haven't seen him. They checked at his addy's suposedly and hes not there so I don't know.

So if he isn't there, where do you suggeast they look?


Just to make this clear this isn't a thread to bag on cops for what ever reason. I just had a question to ask. That said, thanks for your reply's I just wanted to make sure any cops that view the thread don't think I'm trying to give them shit and don't reply

Had me thinking it was....

When I worked up in Auckland, we would print off a list of stolen vehicles, daily. Do you have any idea how many are on that list, just for each day?

And how many are still missing? (Clue - in the thousands.....)

Hundreds of thousands of vehicles move around Auckland daily. Finding a moving needle in a haystack on a conveyor belt is a piece of piss....

[firefighter]

Something a bit more argo and hard looking as well - maybe a bit more Matrix. Yeah something to demand respect - you know when they get out of their vehicle and walk towards you you'll think 'oh shit' and suck in it.
Merry Christmas to all KB cops.

Las Vegas style black ones, with a gun and a taser, tell you what on my ride along no-one fucked with the guy I was with.......he looked the part big time, was swearing on everything that I could I was going to join the Las Vegas Metro after that.......!!:cool:

[wbks]

Well what you said would be enough to shut me up if it wasn't for these two things:
1) He has repeatedly waited in the stolen car outside my sis' workplace which is about 20 meters from the local police station.
2)Owns a house he is probably staying at in another place in auckland but no one has bothered to go and check there.
So aside from you thinking I am criticising the police (which I'm not) my question was: Do you actually go looking around places for the people who have been reportedly robbing houses/assaulting people/stealing cars etc or do you just wait for them to drive past your patrol car or wait for people to call 111 on them? Is that so hard to answer?

[MadDuck]

Do you actually go looking around places for the people who have been reportedly robbing houses/assaulting people/stealing cars etc or do you just wait for them to drive past your patrol car or wait for people to call 111 on them? Is that so hard to answer?

Auckland is a big and busy place. My understanding is that they need to have a call from an 'informant' before they can act.

[Fatjim]

Mate, if he shows up and there's the remotest possibility that he has a firearm make sure you mention it on the 111 call. I guarantee that you will get a response. Oh, and mention he sped of doing donuts without wearing his seatbelt and he looked intoxicated, just in case the OAS is busy.

[pete376403]

Tell them not to bother, you've taken the law into your own hands and dealt to the offender yourself. They'll be round in minutes.

[98tls]

Try sitting in a court for an afternoon.

I did it the other day in Auckland.

The police nick these vermin.. and they get bailed. To reoffend.. even if they're on bail and they reoffend.. the police bring them back into court.. and they get bailed again. WTF is the point of the police arresting them?

These are people whose whole life revolves around criminal activity. Not just the odd red light jumped.. but their WHOLE LIFE. And they get sent back into the community.
Absolutly correct.Will add that at this time of year every fuck head and his dog is ringing 111 so cops who would normally be doing worthwhile shit have to attend endless domestic incidents.

[samgab]

What I suggest, is next time you know he's sitting in the stolen car outside your sister's work go there, get obs on him, and call 111. Give the rego and say you're watching the car right now, it's happening NOW. (Not last week or yesterday or an hour ago, NOW). The calltaker will check the REGO, and if it really has been reported stolen, they'll make it a high priority job, because it's happening NOW. That is the real key point I want to drive home- happening right now. Advise the call taker that you will keep obs on the stolen vehicle till police arrive. If he drives off, follow, if you can do so keeping to the speed limit, of course. Stay on the 111 (or *555) call and keep the calltaker updated with clear direction of travel, side streets you pass, and turns taken.
Don't go into all the historical stuff with the call taker. Stick to the one issue that is happening right now. They don't need to know all the history and a hundred other things about this person. That will all come up when they catch up with him for the one thing he's doing NOW, eg, driving a stolen car. The police that end up pulling him over will do a person query, and everything else will be flagged.

That's how to go about it if you really want some action on it.

[awayatc]

Have a mate who found a fast way of getting to the front of the que in getting the poliese's attention fast....very fast.

After ringing them and getting no joy about vandalism at his lifestyle property, he rang 111 calmly, and said he was opening his guncabinet as he was talking to them on the phone,loading his shotgun, and told the 111 operator that it depended on the time it would take to respond wether they should send the police or an ambulance....

Police got there in record time....

[devnull]

Best way to sort out scumbags is a firearm and a posthole borer

Put them in a hole after you've shot them and plant a tree on top.
By using them as fertiliser, they'll have done at least 1 good thing in their otherwise useless existance :done:

[wbks]

have to attend endless domestic incidents.Like what I'm describing? I get pretty pissed, too when people call 111 over someone doing skids down their road or letting their dog shit on their lawn but you don't have to in the middle of genocide to call 111

[Pixie]

Well what you said would be enough to shut me up if it wasn't for these two things:
1) He has repeatedly waited in the stolen car outside my sis' workplace which is about 20 meters from the local police station.
2)Owns a house he is probably staying at in another place in auckland but no one has bothered to go and check there.
So aside from you thinking I am criticising the police (which I'm not) my question was: Do you actually go looking around places for the people who have been reportedly robbing houses/assaulting people/stealing cars etc or do you just wait for them to drive past your patrol car or wait for people to call 111 on them? Is that so hard to answer?

Call 111 and they'll send a taxi after him

[Patrick]

Like what I'm describing? I get pretty pissed, too when people call 111 over someone doing skids down their road or letting their dog shit on their lawn but you don't have to in the middle of genocide to call 111

You should hear what gets called in for 111 calls. People wanting to know the lotto numbers, the time, can you call a taxi for me, the list is endless....


Call 111 and they'll send a taxi after him

Yep. After the Asher thing, cops are way too busy in Auckland playing taxi for the drunk/drugged idjits to be out there attending to crime in your neighbourhood.....

[wbks]

While this thread is still going, let me get this strait: You (police) can only go looking for people in response for a recent 111 call or something incredibly serious, not just threats and assaults? Ok I get it now. I'm still a little worried that by the time cops get there shit has already happened. Took 30 mins last time to come and the offender had already done what he wanted to do and left.

[Patrick]

While this thread is still going, let me get this strait: You (police) can only go looking for people in response for a recent 111 call or something incredibly serious, not just threats and assaults? Ok I get it now. I'm still a little worried that by the time cops get there shit has already happened. Took 30 mins last time to come and the offender had already done what he wanted to do and left.

Nope... you still don't get it....

A bit hard for the cops to drop everything they are doing/dealing with at that moment, at times.....

[scumdog]

Yep. After the Asher thing, cops are way too busy in Auckland playing taxi for the drunk/drugged idjits to be out there attending to crime in your neighbourhood.....

Yup, amazing how a tad much alcamahol makes the word 'POLICE' look like the word 'TAXI' to the brainless......

Voice at side of street: "Oi, I said OI!, gizzus a liftoam mate"

:Police: car carries on past

V.A.S.O.S Ups the decibels: "Well fuuuvk-yoooo...I pay your wages mate..GIZZUS A LIFT, OI GIZZA LIFT YA WANKER"

Ah, how alcamahol smooths the way in life...

[Patrick]

V.A.S.O.S Ups the decibels: "Well fuuuvk-yoooo...I pay your wages mate..GIZZUS A LIFT, OI GIZZA LIFT YA WANKER"

Ah, how alcamahol smooths the way in life...

Ahhh, but then they get their wish... they get a lift all right... Cunning, them pissed bastards....

[Dave Lobster]

Ahhh, but then they get their wish... they get a lift all right... Cunning, them pissed bastards....

Such a pity we can't jam more of them in prison, and have courts open 24 hours a day.