Riding with an injury - safe?

[Usarka]

I've got a broken rib but really want to go for a ride.

Went for a kite surf the other day but while I felt "ok" (drugs and adrenaline) I was lets face it, I was shit.

Would it be stupid to ride with an injury that isn't painful except for the occassional deep breath or twist that evokes guttural noises and explicit swearing, but has now been dampened with decent doses of codeine panadol and voltaren? I feel fine and the co-ordination feels ok too. Just look at the eloquence gushing from this post, does it sound like it's from a drug impaired mind? :innocent:

Or am i best to sit at home feeling miserable and reminisce about the fond memories of climbing into bed at 10:30 on new years eve like a little girl cuddling up to the dog under the stairs.

?????


ps - large doses of codeine cause histamine rashes, just in case you need to know that. DAMHIK.

[Jantar]

Back in the days when I was into racing, I broke two ribs in a MotoX race. Went to the Dr to get patched up because there was road racing at both Levels and Ruapuna the following weekend. The Dr advised me not to race, but as he knew I would do it anyway, he strapped up my chest so tight I could hardly breathe, and gave me some pain killer in case I needed it. He also warned me not to crash.

So what happened? Well, I low sided at reasonably high speed going into the sweeper at the end of the main straight at Levels. Fortunately, no further injury and a great weekend racing at both venues.

Now I'm older and don't mend so easily, I would still ride with broken ribs. But not with a broken leg or arm. :scooter:

[scumdog]

After the Staging Post KB 'do' I 'somehow' ended up with a broken rib(s).

Worst part was all the roadworks, when the lollipop man had STOP showing it hurt like hell to lift my left foot off the peg and put it on the ground.

Who woulda thunk a broke rib woud be stirred up by foot movement.

[Usarka]

That's enough motivation for me.... see yas!

A little concerned over the drugs, the codeine makes me a little groggy but purposefully only had a half dose for lunch. No difference from a long night at work though I guess.

Quasi's back protector should hold everything in place.

[wbks]

Just remember, depending on the rib broken, it's easily possible to pop a lung or artery just from dropping on your side at 5ks. I'd probably still race though... You ave two lungs for a reason and punctures repair! :)

[DMNTD]

Have been on pain med's all of my adult life. All jokes aside if you're going out for a ride just be aware that you reactions will be slower than normal and watch out for the sun....drink a heap of water.
I had 2 broken ribs the last time I saw you at the track

[normajeane]

That's enough motivation for me.... see yas!

A little concerned over the drugs, the codeine makes me a little groggy but purposefully only had a half dose for lunch. No difference from a long night at work though I guess.

Quasi's back protector should hold everything in place.

The drugs shouldn't be a prob little sis, take what you need and usually the only prob with codiene is that is makes poo hard. Take it especially if it works for you for the pain as it relaxes the area and get into the prunes/kiwifruit. Broken even cracked ribs are not a lot of fun (experience!) but if you take it slowly you should get better in a couple of weeks. - again experience!:doctor:

[Usarka]

Take it especially if it works for you for the pain as it relaxes the area and get into the prunes/kiwifruit.

Maybe I should invite kiwifruit on the ride!


Oooops sidetracked :wavey:

[Usarka]

I had 2 broken ribs the last time I saw you at the track [/B]
Sweet as then, fine as long as i ride like a nana :killingme

J/k - dmntd would have finished 2 laps before I registered they'd called for the starting grid.

Mind you I had a broken brain last few times at the track :woohoo:

[roy.nz]

Even though it requires pain killers dont take them they aint good for you... Man up and leave them alone. :rockon:

[Road Guardian]

You don't think this poll is slightly bias?

Codeine, converts to morphine in the body (and we all know Morphine is a hard drug), Morphine slows the brain down, and if you have to much, you can die from respiratory system shutting down.

Broken ribs, it depends on how the ribs are broken, if its a hair line fracture, anyone can continue their everyday activities, usually.

If its a full fracture of the bone and/or cartilage has been broken, you have a crash (dose not matter what speed) and you hit the fractured rib, and it punctures either lung, it all over for you.

Thats my 2 cents, have fun on the track Usarka!

[PirateJafa]

I haven't let my injuries stop me from riding. 20% movement in my left arm and a wrist/forearm cast on the right arm, and I'm still out and about on various bikes.

Not my vicious little two-stroke though. She's a sweetie, but if she senses weakness then my doom will be nigh.

Ribs aren't essential, take some anti-wusstamines.

[MarkH]

take some anti-wusstamines.

:clap: :laugh:

[Usarka]

You don't think this poll is slightly bias?

Codeine, converts to morphine in the body (and we all know Morphine is a hard drug), Morphine slows the brain down, and if you have to much, you can die from respiratory system shutting down.
Dropped the dose of codeine significantly today for that reason - and kind of the original point for starting the thread. Not ok to drink and ride but ok to do narcs? :sherlock: I guess no dramas at the normal dose though they did make me a little drowsy - no worse than after a long work stint.


Ribs aren't essential, take some anti-wusstamines.

Fair call, but did you really know that too much codeine can release histamines (not wusstamines :lol: btw) and cause a smelly arse biscuit of a rash? I didn't, and to be honest it wasn't that worth the "buzz" to find out.

Might have another hack at that cactus in the garden tomorrow..... :Police:

[Gizzit]

As others have pointed out .... if you crap out ... you could do some serious damage to your health (the punctured lung thing .... not a good look!)

If you are going to ride, strapping yourself up may help.
Good luck.

[CHOPPA]

Ive raced with broken ankles, wrists, elbows its not a good idea and its painful but if it has to be done! Its a bit harder now with the mnz log books etc, i dont ride with concussion but a broken bone doesnt really put your life or others at risk

[naphazoline]

I've got a broken rib but really want to go for a ride.

Went for a kite surf the other day but while I felt "ok" (drugs and adrenaline) I was lets face it, I was shit.

Would it be stupid to ride with an injury that isn't painful except for the occassional deep breath or twist that evokes guttural noises and explicit swearing, but has now been dampened with decent doses of codeine panadol and voltaren? I feel fine and the co-ordination feels ok too. Just look at the eloquence gushing from this post, does it sound like it's from a drug impaired mind? :innocent:

Or am i best to sit at home feeling miserable and reminisce about the fond memories of climbing into bed at 10:30 on new years eve like a little girl cuddling up to the dog under the stairs.

?????


ps - large doses of codeine cause histamine rashes, just in case you need to know that. DAMHIK.

I got given some "tilcotil" tablets from my doctor,when i had a broken rib,and they were pretty much a total relief from the pain.

They're an anti-inflamatory,and don't have any side effects.
The only thing you got to be aware of with them,is that they lull you into a false sense of security,until they wear off,and then you realise that you haven't healed yet.

For everyday functioning,i HIGHLY recomend them.:)

[Gizzit]

Ive raced with broken ankles, wrists, elbows its not a good idea and its painful but if it has to be done! Its a bit harder now with the mnz log books etc, i dont ride with concussion but a broken bone doesnt really put your life or others at risk

As a nurse, I beg to disagree with the matter of a broken bone not putting your life at risk. Broken ribs are potentially dangerous when a further accident may cause a punctured lung. That can be a problem if your lung collapses. A fractured Femur isn't the best for your health either, but you probably wouldn't be up to riding in that condition !!! :)

I'm sure the broken rib thing ... and continued riding, happens quite often .... but yeah .... but IMHO its a bit of a risk that you need to be aware of. ;)

[Usarka]

Ive raced with broken ankles, wrists, elbows its not a good idea and its painful but if it has to be done! Its a bit harder now with the mnz log books etc, i dont ride with concussion but a broken bone doesnt really put your life or others at risk

If I had $1 for every time i rode with the effects of concussion i'd have $2,193.47! :eek:

[Big Dave]

I wasn't aware that riding was safe at any time :-P

[wbks]

As a nurse, I beg to disagree with the matter of a broken bone not putting your life at risk. Broken ribs are potentially dangerous when a further accident may cause a punctured lung. That can be a problem if your lung collapses. A fractured Femur isn't the best for your health either, but you probably wouldn't be up to riding in that condition !!! :)

I'm sure the broken rib thing ... and continued riding, happens quite often .... but yeah .... but IMHO its a bit of a risk that you need to be aware of. ;)how common is a punctured subclavian (sp?) artery pouring blood into two punctured, colapsed lungs


Ive raced with broken ankles, wrists, elbows its not a good idea and its painful but if it has to be done! Its a bit harder now with the mnz log books etc, i dont ride with concussion but a broken bone doesnt really put your life or others at riskI was just about to ask you why they call you chopper:Punk:... This wasn't in mx was it?

[Shadows]

I've ridden with broken ribs before. Why the painkillers though? HTFU!

[H00dz]

your not in ya cage mate, riding safe needs you to be up for it, dont get itchy too soon, ride forever, not for today:headbang:....

[dpex]

As others have pointed out .... if you crap out ... you could do some serious damage to your health (the punctured lung thing .... not a good look!)

If you are going to ride, strapping yourself up may help.
Good luck.

Nah. The really bad part about getting a punctured lung from a previously broken rib is; you'll very likely need a roadside tracheotomy where the tracheotomist will probably have to bust one of your mirrors to get a sharp bit. But worse yet, they'll have to poke you in the eye to see if'n you're alive and thus worth having the tracheotomy performed....That'll hurt.

Of course, after the trach is done, the next step will be to repair said lung with a biker's tyre-repair kit. There's more unnecessary pain!

Imagine having the spirally tool-thingy being rammed in and out to get the hole clean for the bung? And shit, that glue stinks!

And, of course, there's the need to reinflate said lung to get the bung to seal properly.

A buck to a piece of dogshit says nobody will have an inflator, so some robust soul will have to fart down your trach tube to inflate the lung. And just imagine your view if the volunteer inflator happens to be a 200kg, female Romanian weight-lifter who hasn't washed in a month!

Nope. It all seems just too horrid.

I think a less painful solution would be to simply lay there, waiting for the final curtain, but get someone to put a call through to Katman so he can arrive at the scene to give you a last sermon on the cause of your impending journey across the River Styx.

The sermon will most likely end with, 'In nominee Patris, Et Filli, Et Katman Sancti."

That should make you wish you'd stayed at home to read up on how to avoid budding, road-side tracheotomists, farting female weightlifters, and sanctimonious sermonisers. :--))

[Usarka]

I've ridden with broken ribs before. Why the painkillers though? HTFU!

The quacks explaination was breathing shallow for long enough can cause areas of the lungs not being used to develop an infection......

seeing as breathing deep hurts like a mother fucker it seemed like a reasonable idea.

and i just love painkillers :drool:

[Rhino]

The quacks explaination was breathing shallow for long enough can cause areas of the lungs not being used to develop an infection......

seeing as breathing deep hurts like a mother fucker it seemed like a reasonable idea.

and i just love painkillers :drool:
The explanation about breathign is correct. I was told the same when I broke ribs years ago. That is also the reason why the docs no longer strap your ribs (as Jantar mentioned.) It can lead to infections and pleuresy :(

[Shadows]

The quacks explaination was breathing shallow for long enough can cause areas of the lungs not being used to develop an infection......

seeing as breathing deep hurts like a mother fucker it seemed like a reasonable idea.

and i just love painkillers :drool:


The explanation about breathign is correct. I was told the same when I broke ribs years ago. That is also the reason why the docs no longer strap your ribs (as Jantar mentioned.) It can lead to infections and pleuresy :(

My quack never told me that. That'll explain why I got so crook afterwards!

[Road Guardian]

Nah. The really bad part about getting a punctured lung from a previously broken rib is; you'll very likely need a roadside tracheotomy where the tracheotomist will probably have to bust one of your mirrors to get a sharp bit. But worse yet, they'll have to poke you in the eye to see if'n you're alive and thus worth having the tracheotomy performed....That'll hurt.


Why oh why do trackies get brought up in these conversations?
Just call 111

But I do see the joke in it! Hehe

[motorbyclist]

now, all "do not drive" warnings on the drugs aside, are you going to be insured in the event of an accident? check - your policy will state that you aren't covered if you have any alcohol, and may well extend to prescription drugs like yours


EDIT: and remember it isn't neccessarily you who will be hurt - it could be me that gets hurt because it hurts you too much to check your blind spot


how common is a punctured subclavian (sp?) artery pouring blood into two punctured, colapsed lungs


now i'm no doctor, but i'm pretty sure you do need both lungs to work if you want live for more than a few hours..... ie one lung is not enough

corrections welcome of course

[danchop]

i broke/fractured my ribs on xmas eve,after 5 days of breathing difficulties and not being able to blow my nose/arse etc i went to the doc and got the painkillers,question is,my job is riding a bike all day,so how long should i stay off work?

[motorbyclist]

as long as acc will pay ya:niceone:

[Road Guardian]

now i'm no doctor, but i'm pretty sure you do need both lungs to work if you want live for more than a few hours..... ie one lung is not enough

corrections welcome of course

Correct, but instead of a few hours, make it a few minutes if you are lucky.