Stolen zippo.

[Seraph]

Ok,
So something happened to me last night, and I don't think i've ever been so angry.
I was at work at 3 in the morning (nightclub) and a couple of guys come down, tell them we're closed and they were fine with it, 1 of them asks to borrow a lighter, i give him my zippo, he lights his smoke and hands it to his mate, who lights his and continues to play with it.
My workm8 comes outside and starts chatting to them and about 5 minutes later they decide to leave.
I ask him for my lighter back and he ignores me, and starts walking, I follow him up the street and ask him for it again, he refuses to even admit he still has it and continues walking away. Catch up to him and ask him to empty his pockets, he refuses. At this point I'm fuming and wondering what the f**k to do. He's with a friend and im alone, I'm not exactly the biggest guy ever.
I was doing him a favour by letting them use it....
What do you do in a situation like that??
My instinct says smak him over,
my brain says calm down and let it go....
I'd had it for 7 years......

[98tls]

Difficult suituation really,only way you could have got it back was headbutt the guy with it and hope his mate fucks off,otherwise things could get nasty:pinch:moral of the story is i guess dont lend your favourite lighter to pissed bigger than you guys at 3 in the morning.

[Dargor]

Quit smoking. lol.

[jtzzr]

That fuckin sucks , I hate thieving cunts like that.

I would of just smacked the "FUCKER" , But violence does`nt solve anything.

Unfortunately in your situation you really could`nt have done anything , just have to take it on the chin and never lend anyone you don`t know your Zippo.

[Tank]

Always carry matches.

And a bottle of lighter fluid to squirt over the bastard. He will soon give it back.

[Seraph]

I'm just curious at what extent you can go to to recover your property from some wanker without getting yourself in the shit. It's not like i can call the cops and tell them a drunk person stole my lighter, id get laughed at, yet on the other hand, i cant use it as an excuse to assault someone either....
Where do i stand?? No doubt i'll see him again, and if i can recover it i will.

[98tls]

I'm just curious at what extent you can go to to recover your property from some wanker without getting yourself in the shit. It's not like i can call the cops and tell them a drunk person stole my lighter, id get laughed at, yet on the other hand, i cant use it as an excuse to assault someone either....
Where do i stand?? No doubt i'll see him again, and if i can recover it i will. Dont think of it as an excuse think of it as a reason,he stole from you,simple really.

[Nagash]

Essentially the rules of equal force come into play..

If he doesn't use any force against you, you can't use any against him.

It's all a rather grey area dependent on the situation, personally I would of just hit him and dealt with the consequences, but I guess the smartest thing to do would be to follow him from a distance, call the police on a cell phone, ask for advice on whether or not you are allowed to 'restrain' him until they arrive, and act from there.

The police have no right to turn you away, theft is theft, no matter what it is.

[R6_kid]

Should have taken a photo of him and gone straight to the cops, you can also go around handing it out to door men at the bars around where you work and tell them he's been stealing shit and not paying for drinks.

[Dargor]

I'm just curious at what extent you can go to to recover your property from some wanker without getting yourself in the shit. It's not like i can call the cops and tell them a drunk person stole my lighter, id get laughed at, yet on the other hand, i cant use it as an excuse to assault someone either....
Where do i stand?? No doubt i'll see him again, and if i can recover it i will.

If you think your call to the police is not very worthy ring the local police station, not 111. Its there job. Its what you pay for with your tax's.
Chances are this guy doesn't have a clean criminal record, so your complaint against him may help put him away longer when he next goes to court, Or maybe he'll turn into a nice guy.

[skidMark]

Ahhh dont lend expensive lighters to people....

"you got a lighter"

"nah sorry man don't smoke"

simple.

[Mom]

I'm just curious at what extent you can go to to recover your property from some wanker without getting yourself in the shit. It's not like i can call the cops and tell them a drunk person stole my lighter, id get laughed at, yet on the other hand, i cant use it as an excuse to assault someone either....
Where do i stand?? No doubt i'll see him again, and if i can recover it i will.

Your opportunity to recover your zippo went out the door the moment the dude did not hand it back immediately. It is ciggie lighter, yes "zippo", yes had for years. Best advice here, if it was that "special" to you, why hand it over anyway? Bic Flick rules :yes:

Pathetic thread in R&R. Really a non-returned lighter????

I give up!

[rudolph]

Easy, smash the cunt, stomp his head and take it

[skidMark]

Easy, smash the cunt, stomp his head and take it

Yeah but 2 on one can get messy unless ya a good fighter, problem is even if you are for all you know they could have done martial arts as a kid etc etc.

Call me a pussy, i like getting wet.

[Mia]

I'm just curious at what extent you can go to to recover your property from some wanker without getting yourself in the shit. It's not like i can call the cops and tell them a drunk person stole my lighter, id get laughed at, yet on the other hand, i cant use it as an excuse to assault someone either....
Where do i stand?? No doubt i'll see him again, and if i can recover it i will.:

:Pokey: Should only had to ask the once then, flew in a smashed the biggest one of the two...Stand-over fucking inbreeds.

[rudolph]

Yeah but 2 on one can get messy unless ya a good fighter, problem is even if you are for all you know they could have done martial arts as a kid etc etc.

Call me a pussy, i like getting wet.

Kick him in the nuts and bottle the other one, he is most likely to have a pink belt at hanging round the mens toilet

[skidMark]

Kick him in the nuts and bite the other one, he is most likely to have a pink belt at hanging round the mens toilet


Oh rudi i love it when you talk to me that way :wari:

[Seraph]

I wish it would have been as easy as flooring him and taking it back...
But then there's the fact that this town isn't all that big..and people talk...
If you saw someone that worked in a bar you go to...punching someone in the face, and then what would look like to bystanders as searching them and taking something...what would you think?
It may only be a lighter, But it's more the principal of the whole matter.
I'm still just irritated.

[Tank]

Yeah but 2 on one can get messy unless ya a good fighter, problem is even if you are for all you know they could have done martial arts as a kid etc etc.

Call me a pussy, i like getting wet.

Its true - I did Judo when I was 7 and I'm fucken dangerous. :laugh:

edit - not taking the piss from Skiddy here- just that 90% of 'martial artist' cannot fight their ways out of a paper bag.

[Little Miss Trouble]

... just that 90% of 'martial artist' cannot fight their ways out of a paper bag.

Tis true, alot of those 'martial artists' are likely to get themsevles in trouble because they think they're better than they are "i'm an X belt so I'm good.'

A good friend of mine no longer practises a particular style for that very reason. They had a change in head sensei and suddenly went soft, he disagreed with their 'did well for his age' approach to gradings. But then he had trained under an old school sensei who followed the traditional 'meet the grade or faint/puke trying' train of thought.

[tri boy]

Fighting over a zippo lighter?????
Dude, you passed it over to a drop kick, him and his mate kept it.
Get over it.

[EJK]

Thats a really really tough situation. Getting nicked by trying to be a good guy.... There are some cock suckers who don't know shame.

If I were you, I too would have done the same.

[Paul in NZ]

Thats a really really tough situation. Getting nicked by trying to be a good guy.... There are some cock suckers who don't know shame.

Too true.... Still, don't let a couple of petty bullies stop you being a good bloke - the world needs more good blokes than bullies, bullies and wankers have never been in short supply....

[ManDownUnder]

I wish it would have been as easy as flooring him and taking it back...
But then there's the fact that this town isn't all that big..and people talk...
If you saw someone that worked in a bar you go to...punching someone in the face, and then what would look like to bystanders as searching them and taking something...what would you think?
It may only be a lighter, But it's more the principal of the whole matter.
I'm still just irritated.

I hate to say it but you learn your lesson, do what you reasonably can (report it to the cops, keep an eye for the guy etc...)... but move on and don't do it again.

I was royally fleeced by an insurance company way back when... same thing. Learned from it... had to move on.

[imdying]

Wankers... and if you put a cut in his skin an inch deep from the base of his neck to his arsehole, suddenly you're the bad guy.

People are creatures of habit, it's likely they've drunk there before... stash a piece of wood with some nails sticking out of it outside the pub, a long bit so it gets plenty of velocity at the tip when you swing it. Then, wait till they're pissed, and they leave. Then, kill them.

Some wankers will tell you it's 'just a lighter'. Today maybe. I'd recommend killing those pacifist fucktards too.

[Indiana_Jones]

Don't lend your lighter to strange or drunk cunts.

-Indy

[SMOKEU]

Don't lend your lighter to strange or drunk cunts.

-Indy

Nice thread dredge.

[JimO]

i wonder if he got his lighter back

[BuzzardNZ]

If you work at a club, surely there's a bouncer there, couldn't you have asked him for a hand getting your lighter back?

[Banditbandit]

Ok,
So something happened to me last night, and I don't think i've ever been so angry.
I was at work at 3 in the morning (nightclub) and a couple of guys come down, tell them we're closed and they were fine with it, 1 of them asks to borrow a lighter, i give him my zippo, he lights his smoke and hands it to his mate, who lights his and continues to play with it.
My workm8 comes outside and starts chatting to them and about 5 minutes later they decide to leave.
I ask him for my lighter back and he ignores me, and starts walking, I follow him up the street and ask him for it again, he refuses to even admit he still has it and continues walking away. Catch up to him and ask him to empty his pockets, he refuses. At this point I'm fuming and wondering what the f**k to do. He's with a friend and im alone, I'm not exactly the biggest guy ever.
I was doing him a favour by letting them use it....
What do you do in a situation like that??
My instinct says smak him over,
my brain says calm down and let it go....
I'd had it for 7 years......

I've lost, misplaced or had stolen several Zippo lighters over the years - I've given up on them and only use Bic Flicks ... cheaper and saner when they disappear ...

[pzkpfw]

Screw Zippo.

You needed a Ronson.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Ronson_flame_tank_Iwo_Jima.jpg

[Fatt Max]

just that 90% of 'martial artist' cannot fight their ways out of a paper bag.

Too fucking right mate. I have 20 years of Judo, Aikido and Wing Chun behind me and never, in all that time, have I ever found myself in a paper bag. Lucky really cos otherwise I would have been proper fucked...

Ok, nosebagging on a mince and cheese dont count, neither does spewing on an aeroplane...

As for the lighter, mayber it should have been heavier, then the geezer may not have been able to walk off with it......know wot I mean Jon....

[BoristheBiter]

Ok,
So something happened to me last night, and I don't think i've ever been so angry.
I was at work at 3 in the morning (nightclub) and a couple of guys come down, tell them we're closed and they were fine with it, 1 of them asks to borrow a lighter, i give him my zippo, he lights his smoke and hands it to his mate, who lights his and continues to play with it.
My workm8 comes outside and starts chatting to them and about 5 minutes later they decide to leave.
I ask him for my lighter back and he ignores me, and starts walking, I follow him up the street and ask him for it again, he refuses to even admit he still has it and continues walking away. Catch up to him and ask him to empty his pockets, he refuses. At this point I'm fuming and wondering what the f**k to do. He's with a friend and im alone, I'm not exactly the biggest guy ever.
I was doing him a favour by letting them use it....
What do you do in a situation like that??
My instinct says smak him over,
my brain says calm down and let it go....
I'd had it for 7 years......

Lit the smoke for him, never let the lighter out of your hands in the first place.
buy a new one and learn.

[Indiana_Jones]

Lit the smoke for him, never let the lighter out of your hands in the first place.

Pretty much it....

-Indy

[Smifffy]

I think this thread dredge is a great idea!! After all, what better time to go get some payback on the dude who took the lighter?

Revenge is a dish best served cold, and all that.

:innocent:


Or else it's been long enough for the OP to realise that it wasn't the end of the world....

[Indiana_Jones]

Or else it's been long enough for the OP to realise that it wasn't the end of the world....

I think they topped themselves.....

-Indy

[Usarka]

Can I borrow some money?

[Madness]

I think they topped themselves.....

Doused themselves in lighter fluid.....

[avgas]

Should have taken a photo of him and gone straight.....
Back to the bar. Print out said photo of 2 boys writing underneath
"Gay lovers stole who my zippo"
put said photo somewhere public and inaccessible.

[aprilia_RS250]

Ok,
So something happened to me last night, and I don't think i've ever been so angry.
I was at work at 3 in the morning (nightclub) and a couple of guys come down, tell them we're closed and they were fine with it, 1 of them asks to borrow a lighter, i give him my zippo, he lights his smoke and hands it to his mate, who lights his and continues to play with it.
My workm8 comes outside and starts chatting to them and about 5 minutes later they decide to leave.
I ask him for my lighter back and he ignores me, and starts walking, I follow him up the street and ask him for it again, he refuses to even admit he still has it and continues walking away. Catch up to him and ask him to empty his pockets, he refuses. At this point I'm fuming and wondering what the f**k to do. He's with a friend and im alone, I'm not exactly the biggest guy ever.
I was doing him a favour by letting them use it....
What do you do in a situation like that??
My instinct says smak him over,
my brain says calm down and let it go....
I'd had it for 7 years......

Oh my god similar thing happened to me when I was 21 or 22... 2am Queen st waiting to meet some mates, this guy, lowrider jeans wonna be gangsta with a poly accent asked to borrow my lighter and sure enough I let him use it. Then he started walking off and I said "oi!" can I have my lighter back? He said "uhh thinks I'll keep it ehhh kuz". I see a cop car driving down keeping an eye on things and I flag it over and ask them if they can help. 5min later he was in the back seat off to cop station, there was a warrant out for him for something like failing to show up in court. As they cuffed him up I laughed at him so hard and told him to make sure he keeps his snatch tight that night (I'll agree was a bit under the influence of the grog and felt like laughing him down and making him feel like an utter dickhead).:woohoo:

[BuzzardNZ]

Oh my god similar thing happened to me when I was 21 or 22... 2am Queen st waiting to meet some mates, this guy, lowrider jeans wonna be gangsta with a poly accent asked to borrow my lighter and sure enough I let him use it. Then he started walking off and I said "oi!" can I have my lighter back? He said "uhh thinks I'll keep it ehhh kuz". I see a cop car driving down keeping an eye on things and I flag it over and ask them if they can help. 5min later he was in the back seat off to cop station, there was a warrant out for him for something like failing to show up in court. As they cuffed him up I laughed at him so hard and told him to make sure he keeps his snatch tight that night (I'll agree was a bit under the influence of the grog and felt like laughing him down and making him feel like an utter dickhead).:woohoo:


good job matey :yeah:

[HQfiend]

Geez thread dredge and a half!
Short answer is your zippo never leaves your hands! Otherwise suck it up you muppet!