Police alert. Biker fatal, Aucks (15 Jan 09)

[skidMark]

Just got this :(

New Zealand Police Alert 11:00am 15 Jan 2009 Auckland City

Location of incident: MT ALBERT

Incident type: FATAL CRASH

At approximately 1045 hrs on Wednesday the 14th of January there was a fatal crash on Allendale Road, Mt Albert near the intersection with Douglas Street.
A north bound Kawasaki motorcycle, has collided with a Volvo car turning from the motorcycles right out of a driveway.
The motorcyclist has died at Auckland Hospital from his injuries.
The Serious Crash Unit are investigating and are calling for any further witnesses who have not yet spoken to Police.
If anyone has any information could they please contact Sergeant Matthew Ford on 359-3111.
Issued By: Inspector Gary Hill


R.I.P fellow biker.

[skidMark]

I did have the name up but mods removed as it's not public knowledge or something...

Errr nz police have released the name so figured that was enough, don't shoot the messenger.

[bikerboy011]

Dam RIP :( bad start for the year...

[unrealone]

Mmm, just got it as well. Not good to hear. RIP

[Anarkist]

I did have the name up but mods removed as it's not public knowledge or something...

Errr nz police have released the name so figured that was enough, don't shoot the messenger.

There is an option under your user control panel for fatal accidents with the following settings:

As per kb rules (the default)
No announcement or discussion at all.
No discussion. Family/friend/media to announce.
Family/friend/media to break the news. Seperate discussion thread.
Anyone can break the news. Discussion in same thread is fine.

If the victim was a fellow Kiwibiker and he had one of the more private options set the mods may wish to have his wishes adhered to.

.. At least that would be my guess.

[Tank]

Just got this :(

New Zealand Police Alert 11:00am 15 Jan 2009 Auckland City

Location of incident: MT ALBERT

Incident type: FATAL CRASH

At approximately 1045 hrs on Wednesday the 14th of January there was a fatal crash on Allendale Road, Mt Albert near the intersection with Douglas Street.
A north bound Kawasaki motorcycle, has collided with a Volvo car turning from the motorcycles right out of a driveway.
The motorcyclist has died at Auckland Hospital from his injuries.
The Serious Crash Unit are investigating and are calling for any further witnesses who have not yet spoken to Police.
If anyone has any information could they please contact Sergeant Matthew Ford on 359-3111.
Issued By: Inspector Gary Hill


R.I.P fellow biker.


Im sorry for the person involved - obviously.

But is there some kind of morbid glee in posting this kind of thing as soon as possible - esp with the persons name?

[skidMark]

Im sorry for the person involved - obviously.

But is there some kind of morbid glee in posting this kind of thing as soon as possible - esp with the persons name?


If you are implying what i think you are, then you are a sad sad individual.

What kind of stupid accusation is that.

Get a life.

[Katman]

Sorry Mark, but I'm with Tank on this one.

[Quasievil]

I Vote BAN threads like this............sick of the fucking "Oh R.I.P thought n wishes" blah blah blah

Sad yeah of course its Sad but fuck sake what ya want a freckin pat on the back or a fucking soap box. every time someone dies someone has to post all this crap.

[Qkchk]

I Vote BAN threads like this............sick of the fucking "Oh R.I.P thought n wishes" blah blah blah

Sad yeah of course its Sad but fuck sake what ya want a freckin pat on the back or a fucking soap box. every time someone dies someone has to post all this crap.

I second that.

[Anarkist]

There's a place for this kind of information.

... It's stuff.co.nz

[cs363]

There's a place for this kind of information.

... It's stuff.co.nz


yep, agreed - we all have computers and we are alla ble to access news sites like stuff/xtra etc
I have to agree with Tank, Katman and Quasi these constant 'biker down' threads are pointless and depressing.
Bit different I guess if there's some personal involvement but I'd like to see these threads disappear.

Just my two cents

[Hailwood]

Add my vote to removing and banning this type of thread....

[raftn]

add my vote to removing and banning this type of thread....

................+ 1

[snuffles]

The sooner we can stop thi sort of crap from being posted, the sooner I CAN START TO ENJOY VISITING THIS SITE.

Why do we need to notify one and all of this. If it was mwe that was down, i would not wanyt my wife ( who uses this site) to find out because osme fuck wit thinks that a bike r fatality is post worthy.

If a jumbo jet has landed on the motorway and the road is closed, then feel free to tell me. but if a bike r or any motorist dies, idont want to know thanks:headbang:

[vifferman]

Burn them! Burn them!!




OOps...:o I mean, ban them.

[Nicksta]

i'm with Quasi and QkChk,

mark, you got to pull your head in... remember its not been that long since we all had to experience not nice stuff and it sucks having it spread all over a public forum creating a lot more hurt and pain for no reason....

[pritch]

Sorry Mark, but I'm with Tank on this one.

Yeah, I don't understand the rush to post news like this. Generally it'll be time enough to find out when it's on the News. A life has been lost and a family is grieving and they have my sympathy but...

Not having a go at you Mark, I feel the same whoever posts it.

Having said that I'm off to look for something more cheerfull.

[skidMark]

I Vote BAN threads like this............sick of the fucking "Oh R.I.P thought n wishes" blah blah blah

Sad yeah of course its Sad but fuck sake what ya want a freckin pat on the back or a fucking soap box. every time someone dies someone has to post all this crap.


Yet you open the thread, the thread title states exactly what it is.

Yet in you come?

It's part of motorcycling, people die, why not give a fallen rider a mention?

ill be sure not to think of you then **eyeroll**

[Slyer]

Agreed. </tenchar>
Edit: with the votes...

[sinned]

Add my vote to removing and banning this type of thread....
......... Agree.

If it is someone known on kiwibiker then at an appropriate time, following discussion with a mod, a well written notice could be posted.

[skidMark]

yep, agreed - we all have computers and we are alla ble to access news sites like stuff/xtra etc
I have to agree with Tank, Katman and Quasi these constant 'biker down' threads are pointless and depressing.
Bit different I guess if there's some personal involvement but I'd like to see these threads disappear.

Just my two cents

On the contrary i think having them on the site reminds us we need to take care and maybe that depressing should make some realise they arn't as bulletproof as they think they are.

guarantee kb deaths would go up without these threads.... but you wouldn't hear about them....

but you would because any kb death would still be posted....

so what you are then saying is since they arnt part of our "community"

They dont get a mention?

Nice cult.

Bunch of softies.

But sure, live in your little happy place where nobody dies.

[Colapop]

As much as Skiddy can be a pain in the arse sometimes, it's not fair to lay this solely on him. He's not the only one to post this sort of thread. I agree tho - I'd rather not see these threads, but they're not all attributable to Skidmark.

[vtec]

I think it's fair to post details of fatalities, I like to know who's been killed so I can work out if it's someone I know. I agree with Skidmark on this. If you don't like them, don't read them. Title/subject was pretty obvious.

[cs363]

On the contrary i think having them on the site reminds us we need to take care and maybe that depressing should make some realise they arn't as bulletproof as they think they are.

guarantee kb deaths would go up without these threads.... but you wouldn't hear about them....

but you would because any kb death would still be posted....

so what you are then saying is since they arnt part of our "community"

They dont get a mention?

Nice cult.

Bunch of softies.

Please don't take the 'anti' votes personally, I don't think anyone is going down that route.

But I don't feel we need these things posted to remind us to take care, I do that every time I ride as I'm sure do you and others.
As for the 'bulletproof' ones, this type of post won't have any effect as they think they are bulletproof after all, it's the old 'won't happen to me' syndrome.

I think it's probably ok to post something if as I said earlier there is a personal involvement, but even then my personal opinion is that this is not the sort of thing for internet forums - consider the feelings of the persons family & friends, it's bad enough when these stories are all over the news but to commit them to internet gossip is tasteless in my book.

[Jiminy]

Always a sad thing to hear/read.

Maybe we should keep this thread on topic and continue the discussion about banning such threads here:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=64429

Just my 2c...

[yungatart]

Yet you open the thread, the thread title states exactly what it is.

Yet in you come?

It's part of motorcycling, people die, why not give a fallen rider a mention?

ill be sure not to think of you then **eyeroll**

Yet all you have said you want this type of thread banned, have opened this one to have a nosey.....
You don't have to look, you know, it is purely voluntary...
Pot = kettle= black

[skidMark]

Okay instead of bitching back and forth pointlessly lets come up with a real solution.

How about a section for deaths/ biker accidents on police releases etc.


And to see the section you must join that sub forum, if you don't want to see the threads you don't join...

simple?

[Tank]

If you are implying what i think you are, then you are a sad sad individual.

What kind of stupid accusation is that.

Get a life.

You would be wrong in what you have thought I was implying.

And I have a life thanks - it doesn't include subscribing to police comms notifications so I can tell when a guy dies simply because he rides a motorbike.

Celebrate the living, remember and honour friends and family who pass, and leave strangers be.

Peace out.

[skidMark]

You would be wrong in what you have thought I was implying.

And I have a life thanks - it doesn't include subscribing to police comms notifications so I can tell when a guy dies simply because he rides a motorbike.

Celebrate the living, remember and honour friends and family who pass, and leave strangers be.

Peace out.


I have my reasons for police comms alerts none of which i need to tell you.

[cs363]

Okay instead of bitching back and forth pointlessly lets come up with a real solution.

How about a section for deaths/ biker accidents on police releases etc.


And to see the section you must join that sub forum, if you don't want to see the threads you don't join...

simple?


Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me, just from scanning the threads that have mentioned this it would appear that the majority aren't fans of rider down posts but there is a large enough body of opposing opinion not to be ignored.
Having the requirement to join the sub forum to read posts would be an excellent solution imho

[MsKABC]

Im sorry for the person involved - obviously.

But is there some kind of morbid glee in posting this kind of thing as soon as possible - esp with the persons name?

+ 1 more :yes:

[snuffles]

I have my reasons for police comms alerts none of which i need to tell you.

Wow.....you must be really important

[Crazy Steve]

Just got this :(

New Zealand Police Alert 11:00am 15 Jan 2009 Auckland City

Location of incident: MT ALBERT

Incident type: FATAL CRASH

At approximately 1045 hrs on Wednesday the 14th of January there was a fatal crash on Allendale Road, Mt Albert near the intersection with Douglas Street.
A north bound Kawasaki motorcycle, has collided with a Volvo car turning from the motorcycles right out of a driveway.
The motorcyclist has died at Auckland Hospital from his injuries.
The Serious Crash Unit are investigating and are calling for any further witnesses who have not yet spoken to Police.
If anyone has any information could they please contact Sergeant Matthew Ford on 359-3111.
Issued By: Inspector Gary Hill


R.I.P fellow biker.

Thanks Mark..

Always good to have the heads up on things like this..

Just Incase its a Friend or Family Member...Then I can ask for time off work asap..

Thanks again...And keep up the great Work...

Crazy Steve..

[Nasty]

Keep it on topic .. for other topics such as banning threads etc take them to an appropriate place.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

R I P to the rider. Condolance to family and friends.
















If you dont want to read stay out of thread easy.

[Duke girl]

Wouldn't you think that if it was a KB Member who was killed, that his family if they wanted to, would put something on KB letting those who knew that rider what has happened without someone who doesnt know the rider involved starting up a thread about it?. Its only fair that the family of the deceased find out 1st before those of us who dont even know the rider killed.

[danchop]

i really cant believe this!!for those that dont know,allendale road is a very residential street about 1km long and has about 5 speed humps along it,i cant believe someone has died along this very small stetch of road,but it only has to take the right hit to the right part of the body or head to do this....
just to put into perspective for out of aucklanders the area we are talking about..
and another thing about these rip threads,this is the internet!!other forums exist and have a much harsher scope to incidents like these,so dont think the thread author is being morbid cause theres always someone else on another forum debating it,so just cause its a bikers forum doesnt mean to say family or friends of the victim ever go here and read these,kb isnt an exclusive biker place ffs..its the net and get used to it

[Trouser]

Names out if you want it.

[Madmax]

allendale is a small road
but very busy

[Quasievil]

and another thing about these rip threads,this is the internet!!other forums exist and have a much harsher scope to incidents like these,so dont think the thread author is being morbid cause theres always someone else on another forum debating it,so just cause its a bikers forum doesnt mean to say family or friends of the victim ever go here and read these,kb isnt an exclusive biker place ffs..its the net and get used to it

Actually no its KB, this site is about look at me, give me rep, Soap boxing, and lots of ego pampering, thats is why we have such a huge load of crap threads (some of which are a laugh I agree)
Interesting that sportsbike.co.nz as well as many other sites that im aware of have never (that im immediately aware of) had a RIP thread, why? because its members have different agendas to the above they are bikers with some maturity, and maturity is something sadly lacking in a percentage of this community.

Not that I care to much it is what it is and will stay that way im sure.

[Morcs]

Yet you open the thread, the thread title states exactly what it is.

Yet in you come?

It's part of motorcycling, people die, why not give a fallen rider a mention?

ill be sure not to think of you then **eyeroll**

But Mark its not necessarily your place to post the info, especially names.

chrislost is extremely pissed off with you for revealing his name in his crash thread, we all knew about it, but you felt you had to earn a medal by revealing a name?

[Mystic13]

Actually no its KB, this site is about look at me, give me rep, Soap boxing, and lots of ego pampering, thats is why we have such a huge load of crap threads (some of which are a laugh I agree)
Interesting that sportsbike.co.nz as well as many other sites that im aware of have never (that im immediately aware of) had a RIP thread, why? because its members have different agendas to the above they are bikers with some maturity, and maturity is something sadly lacking in a percentage of this community.

Not that I care to much it is what it is and will stay that way im sure.


So let me see if i have this right ...

- So KB's the problem?, this site is about look at me, give me rep, Soap boxing, and lots of ego pampering, thats is why we have such a huge load of crap threads ...

but with no ego involved, no soap boxing and no give me rep at all you go on to let us know how wonderful YOUR SITE IS, how your members have maturity.... apparently maturity is something sadly lacking in a percentage of this community.

I'm curious "what the heck is maturity and how do you tell it's in a post?" Don't answer that, it's rhetorical. It seems to me in the general forum you get general chit chat and in the racing/technical threads you get "mature" conversation.

.....

Actually, I like KB, it's got a great community, almost family feel to it. Sure every family has it's Uncle Fred, the one that gets drunk at Christmas and makes an ass of himself. The one you don't want to invite to the wedding but know you have to. But that's what a community or family is about.

It seems that the issue of rider down threads has two camps and the best thing you can do is let them run and either have those that don't want to see them exercise some control or do what the other guys above suggested.

I have a lot of friends riding and when I hear of a rider down on stuff for example I know it will be sometime before the story is updated so I call across here. This site does a great job of being a site for bikers.

...

Maybe at least there should be a different category instead of it popping up in general. A general sub category for example.