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skidMark
20th January 2009, 22:09
Just caught a white tail spider, first i have ever seen, luckily looked em up 2-3 months ago out of curiousity.

Damn thing was 10cm from my hand running at it when i saw it.

I need a lotto ticket.

Nasty lil bastards.

Katman
20th January 2009, 22:13
first i have ever seen

Say what?!!!

:blink:

Is your real name Rip Van Winkle?

skidMark
20th January 2009, 22:14
Say what?!!!

:blink:

Is your real name Rip Van Winkle?


In the quiet words of the virgin mary, come again?

Swampdonkey
20th January 2009, 22:17
A mate got bitten the other day,one had got into a tee shirt he grabbed off his boat. He put it on and wack,nasty rash type sore appeared for a few days. Different folk react worse than others. Nasty bits of work.

Katman
20th January 2009, 22:21
There's a theory that their bite is so severe because they feed on Daddy Long Legs (which supposedly have venom as bad as just about anything else out there).

skidMark
20th January 2009, 22:22
There's a theory that their bite is so severe because they feed on Daddy Long Legs (which supposedly have venom as bad as just about anything else out there).


Yeah daddy long legs is one of the most poisonous spiders on earth, but fangs are too small to bite ya.


Just as well huh.

Max Preload
20th January 2009, 22:25
Indeed - different people react quite differently. I have a mate who was bitten on the foot - didn't return to work for 6 months because he couldn't put any significant weight on it.

I've had 3 bites from the mongrels (2 confirmed by the corpse) and I just get a large red patch with a puss-filled pimple like head and shitloads of itching. I've caught many more and put them together and they fight to the death! Most gratifying...

jrandom
20th January 2009, 22:27
I have a year-old 1cm-diameter scar from a whitetail bite on my right foot. Happened while I was sitting in the lounge watching telly.

It took almost three weeks to heal up. For the first 12-24 hours, it was a burning mozzie-bite type bump that just wouldn't stop hurting, and then that turned black and collapsed and spread outwards over the following days, eventually falling away and leaving a bloody hole that scarred over.

Which made me pretty sure that the root cause was an infection of some sort, rather than a direct envenoming.

I didn't see a doctor or take any antibiotics for it. I was poised to, though, if I noticed any systemic symptoms or if it'd spread further.

The infection angle makes sense given that reported deaths and/or cases of gangrene requiring amputation from spider bites tend to be among the infirm and very young. My ex-wife's grandmother lost half a thumb to a whitetail bite about six months before she died of cancer.

jtzzr
20th January 2009, 22:28
So if we see a 4 legged white-tail , Skid Mark taught it how to wheelstand.:Punk:

bikerboy011
20th January 2009, 22:29
I always see massive black one's around my house.

Max Preload
20th January 2009, 22:30
Yeah daddy long legs is one of the most poisonous spiders on earth, but fangs are too small to bite ya.


There's a theory that their bite is so severe because they feed on Daddy Long Legs (which supposedly have venom as bad as just about anything else out there).


The biggest white-tailed spider myth is that they carry toxins from eating daddy-long-legs.

"That is a complete, utter and total myth. 99.95 percent of spiders have a toxin, but the daddy-long-legs are one of the few species that don't. They don't actually have any fangs either." (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4758678a11.html)

10 chars...

skidMark
20th January 2009, 22:34
10 chars...


Not what i have heard about daddy long legs eh.

I will ask my mates dad "the bug man" (Ruud kleinpaste) next time i see him, he should know all about the lil bastards.

Max Preload
20th January 2009, 22:40
Just be thankful we don't have the Brown Recluse... :shit:

The Stranger
20th January 2009, 22:43
Just caught a white tail spider, first i have ever seen, luckily looked em up 2-3 months ago out of curiousity.


I need a lotto ticket.



What did you find when you looked them up?
First 2 articles I found here (http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz/research/biosystematics/invertebrates/spiders/white_tail.asp) and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_tail_spider) seem to think they aren't much of a problem.

skidMark
20th January 2009, 22:44
What did you find when you looked them up?
First 2 articles I found here (http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz/research/biosystematics/invertebrates/spiders/white_tail.asp) and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_tail_spider) seem to think they aren't much of a problem.


Can carry flesh eating diseases etc, nasty bite etc etc.

skidMark
20th January 2009, 22:45
Just be thankful we don't have the Brown Recluse... :shit:


reminds me of jrandom's hand surgery. :blink:

jrandom
20th January 2009, 22:46
Just be thankful we don't have the Brown Recluse... :shit:

Ah yes, that photo. See http://www.snopes.com/photos/bugs/brownrecluse.asp.

You'll note that the guy who had that wound in the photo was a medical lecturer of some sort, and put the effects down to an MRSA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRSA) infection, which may or may not have been secondary to an actual spider bite. (The bite could have been from something else entirely.)

Tank
20th January 2009, 22:54
Tough bad ass bikers find a spider..


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The Stranger
20th January 2009, 23:00
Can carry flesh eating diseases etc,

Yeah, that's exactly the thing those articles say they don't carry.

jrandom
20th January 2009, 23:08
Yeah, that's exactly the thing those articles say they don't carry.

I'd say MRSA pretty much counts as a flesh-eating disease.

Slyer
20th January 2009, 23:24
I just spent over an hour on wikipedia reading about different spiders. Thanks guys...

MaxB
21st January 2009, 00:33
My white tail bite count is two. Once inside a glove and once on the upper arm. They didn't make it out alive. I also have a "bitten by unkown insect" event while in the west coast sand dunes. Also on the arm. That one hurt like hell.

Each time I ended up at the docs and got pills but I would agree that it can affect people differently.

My first bite experience turned into a bit of a joke. White tails were new to the country back then so I went to the A&E clinic with it in a jam jar. The doc had never seen one before, so to be on the safe side I got a bag full of pills and creams. It was the weekend so I paid top dollar. I got bitten and stung that weekend.

JMemonic
21st January 2009, 04:41
While you are on the subject look up MRSA, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrsa) its possible that the bite is not the cause of the infection, just the catalyst.

As to whitetails nasty aggressive buggers, and we will import more nasties with the dropping standards, sure MAF want us to do our part but lowering the funding with less work being done at the points where these things come in, it might well be to late in some cases as it is with Varroa, if you are interested have a look at http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz/pests/registers/uor

Owl
21st January 2009, 05:41
There's a theory that their bite is so severe because they feed on Daddy Long Legs (which supposedly have venom as bad as just about anything else out there).

Urban Legend Katman!

fatzx10r
21st January 2009, 05:55
There's a theory that their bite is so severe because they feed on Daddy Long Legs (which supposedly have venom as bad as just about anything else out there).

na man, you've been hearing to many campfire stories

sinfull
21st January 2009, 06:11
Just be thankful we don't have the Brown Recluse... :shit:


reminds me of jrandom's hand surgery. :blink:

Sure i read a post on here re the recluse and how they have found them to be here now !

cave weta
21st January 2009, 07:15
Sure i read a post on here re the recluse and how they have found them to be here now !

Yes- about a year ago I recieved a series of those photos showing the day by day deterioration of the guys hand. the email said that they are now here and to beware of them - fuckin Aussies.



I have a year-old 1cm-diameter scar from a whitetail bite on my right foot. Happened while I was sitting in the lounge watching telly.



Just last week I was doing the same, bare foot watching telly and I saw a movement on the floor- a 2.5cm whitetail rushing at my foot. so I scrambled up and stood on the couch as it ran under. :stupid: couldnt find flyspray quick enough so I nailed it with tyre silicone. it had a lovely finish!

PrincessBandit
21st January 2009, 07:28
Thank goodness for Robocan!

I destest spiders (and flies). Get a lot of white tails out in the shade house out the back and often found them in our rabbit/guinea pig hutches. Never seemed to bother them.
Best spider is a dead spider.

nallac
21st January 2009, 07:30
shit, white tails are more common around here than daddy long legs are..
kill a couple everyday.

I Sprayed around the front door and a side window a couple of months ago,
went back about 20 mins later and there would've at least 25 of the suckers dead....

The Stranger
21st January 2009, 07:40
I'd say MRSA pretty much counts as a flesh-eating disease.

I'd say you are right.
But what does that have to do with White Tail spiders?

Slyer
21st January 2009, 07:43
Spiders and things are going to be more of a problem if the average temperature is going to be increasing...

jrandom
21st January 2009, 07:47
I'd say you are right.
But what does that have to do with White Tail spiders?

For whatever reason (seems to be somewhat undetermined) spider bites tend to get infected with it.

Certainly my whitetail bite showed signs of such an infection, although it didn't spread very violently. I've had plenty of small cuts and insect stings and bites in my life, and none of them has ever behaved in that way.

Finn
21st January 2009, 07:57
I always see massive black one's around my house.

They must be up to no good being in Remuera. Call the cops next time.

Curious_AJ
21st January 2009, 11:13
I hate spiders personally... but really it probably wasnt running towards your hand to bite it Mark...

also on the note, I'd never kill a spider... only run around screaming for half an hour until I get someone elses attention, then get them to catch it and put it out... except for daddy long legs, they're alright when they're not on me... and they eat mozzies.

sinfull
21st January 2009, 11:23
so I screamed and stood on the couch as it ran under. :stupid: !
Ummmm Ok ! Ya bike aint painted pink by any chance ?


I only run around screaming for half an hour until I get someone elses attention, except for daddy long legs, they're alright when they're not on me... and they eat mozzies.
Your bike might look good in pink !
Daddy long legs are a sure sign you aint got the white tail infestation !
I too leave the long legs alone ! Saves the drool marks on the pillow, they come down and drink it from the corners of your mouth while your asleep AJ !

Curious_AJ
21st January 2009, 11:53
Ummmm Ok ! Ya bike aint painted pink by any chance ?


Your bike might look good in pink !
Daddy long legs are a sure sign you aint got the white tail infestation !
I too leave the long legs alone ! Saves the drool marks on the pillow, they come down and drink it from the corners of your mouth while your asleep AJ !

lol... well as a girl, I don't mind a pink bike :p

as for spiders drinking my drool? nah.. i'd eat them first if they did that.. a person eats an average of 8 spiders in their lifetime... but hey, it's okay so long as I dont wake up while doing it! (or while they drink the drool.... <_< )

P.S now... I've had an avondale spider that I SWEAR was so big it had it's own health bar! in my room once... needless to say I didnt go in there at ALL until my dad got sick of me and sucked it up with the vaccum cleaner.

yungatart
21st January 2009, 12:00
......
Daddy long legs are a sure sign you aint got the white tail infestation !


Are you sure?
We have both varieties in large populations in our house....

I think I need a new maid...

jrandom
21st January 2009, 12:00
A spider spent 16 hours in my right ear canal once. I lifted a cardboard box over my head while moving stuff out of the shed, and it dropped out and ran in there. I wasn't 100% sure what had happened, but it kept scritching around.

Pondered going to the A&E to get it syringed out, but didn't get around to it, just went to sleep that night thinking "nah, can't have really been a spider in my ear, I must have just dropped some grit in there".

Got woken several times in the night by scritching noises in my skull.

Finally got up in the morning, wet a cotton bud and dabbed it along right into my ear (I normally hate sticking things in my ear canals, it's why I don't wear earplugs on the bike). The spider ran out and down my cheek.

I gave it a slap... they always look so much smaller when they're dead with their legs curled up, don't they?

:crazy:

It looked like a tegenaria domestica. Fuckin glad it wasn't a whitetail!

RC1
21st January 2009, 12:00
i find 3 or 4 a week around the outside of the house , then i feed them to the frogs :drool:

ManDownUnder
21st January 2009, 12:08
Whitetail + shoe = Pate

I fail to see the problem

Drogen Omen
21st January 2009, 12:23
I've been biten by Hornets, Scorpions and Red Soldure ants (nasty suckers they are) in Ecuador when I lived there but none of them have been even close to being as painfull or last as long as the white tail spider bit i got a couple years ago. went all red and then the top went all pussy and white got to about an inch in diameter and went all wheepy for about 3 weeks before it started to scab over. but it still hur about 3 months later...

Aloevera is a natural antiseptic provids provides a cooling releif sensation and I recomended for bits like that, if you have a plant just break off a leaf and smear the jelly like stuff over the area.

One thing I heard about the whitetail, the reason for the septesemia/gangreen wounds is caused by the bite followed by the person squashing the spider when they are biten so all the bacteria living in the spider gets spread over the fresh bit and causes the bigest problem... was also on 60mins a couple years back.

PrincessBandit
21st January 2009, 12:27
A spider spent 16 hours in my right ear canal once. I lifted a cardboard box over my head while moving stuff out of the shed, and it dropped out and ran in there. I wasn't 100% sure what had happened, but it kept scritching around.

Pondered going to the A&E to get it syringed out, but didn't get around to it, just went to sleep that night thinking "nah, can't have really been a spider in my ear, I must have just dropped some grit in there".

Got woken several times in the night by scritching noises in my skull.

Finally got up in the morning, wet a cotton bud and dabbed it along right into my ear (I normally hate sticking things in my ear canals, it's why I don't wear earplugs on the bike). The spider ran out and down my cheek.

I gave it a slap... they always look so much smaller when they're dead with their legs curled up, don't they?

:crazy:

It looked like a tegenaria domestica. Fuckin glad it wasn't a whitetail!
OMG. After reading that I think I'll sleep with ear plugs in, nose clip on (the kind synchro swimmers wear), and tape my mouth shut! Brrrrrrrrr. Not sure how I'll breath but. Aha, go for the "robber" look with pantyhose over my head instead.
I have been lying staring up at the ceiling in time to see a daddy long legs floating it's way down directly above my face before. Eeeew, looks so gross with it's legs all splayed like some sort of parachute, bouncing as it lowered itself down. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh now I want to jump up and do the Aussie haka (smacking imaginary spiders off myself, as opposed to looking for my wallet......)

Finn
21st January 2009, 12:27
i normally hate sticking things in my ear canals, it's why i don't wear earplugs on the bike

Franks and beans!!!

Stirts
21st January 2009, 12:30
A Daddy Long Legs fell from its little web and into the Satay Chicken I was cooking. I HATE SPIDERS and was not prepared to use my stirring utensil thingie to fish it out, but I didn't want to touch it either.

Another split second of terror lapses and in a moment of fearlessness I quickly grab one of its little daddy legs and throw the carcass out the window.

Oh what a conundrum, do I throw my lovely satay dinner in the bin and start from scratch, or mix in the added spidery juice ingredient and pretend nothing happened.

I pretended nothing happened. Then all through dinner I was thinking Daddy Long Legs are supposedly very poisonous.....has this suicidal daddy discharged his venom into our dinner. Are we going to start fitting and choking on our swollen tongues?

I HATE SPIDERS THEY RUIN PERFECTLY GOOD DINNERS!

jrandom
21st January 2009, 12:30
Franks and beans!!!

Whaaaaaat?

jrandom
21st January 2009, 12:32
Then all through dinner I was thinking Daddy Long Legs are supposedly very poisonous.....has this suicidal daddy discharged his venom into our dinner. Are we going to start fitting and choking on our swollen tongues?

I HATE SPIDERS THEY RUIN PERFECTLY GOOD DINNERS!

Many toxins that can do you great harm if they get into your bloodstream are completely neutralised by the digestive system.

The mouth and stomach are excellent poison and infection barriers. (All bets are off if you have open cuts on your gums, etc, though.)

Stirts
21st January 2009, 12:41
Many toxins that can do you great harm if they get into your bloodstream are completely neutralised by the digestive system.

The mouth and stomach are excellent poison and infection barriers. (All bets are off if you have open cuts on your gums, etc, though.)

So bite a poisonous spider first before it bites you!?!

jrandom
21st January 2009, 12:42
So bite a poisonous spider first before it bites you!?!

I'd be a bit worried about what it'd do with its fangs on the way down, but, yes, I suppose that's the sum of it.

sinfull
21st January 2009, 12:46
I'd be a bit worried about what it'd do with its fangs on the way down, but, yes, I suppose that's the sum of it.
Lend me an ear spider man ! You sure there werent two of them that got in there ?
Beware the white tail on sunday !!!!

Finn
21st January 2009, 12:51
Whaaaaaat?

Something about Mary... her special needs brother didn't like his ears touched. If you did you got a smack in the face.

nodrog
21st January 2009, 13:16
A Daddy Long Legs fell from its little web and into the Satay Chicken I was cooking. ......., do I throw my lovely satay dinner in the bin ..........I pretended nothing happened....

WTF WOMAN!!!

i dont know whats worse - finding out on the internet that you poison my dinners, or not being able to remember when i had Satay Chicken!

what do you want from Wendy's?

Stirts
21st January 2009, 13:22
WTF WOMAN!!!

i dont know whats worse - finding out on the internet that you poison my dinners, or not being able to remember when i had Satay Chicken!

what do you want from Wendy's?

:clap: woohooo my cunning plan worked! I'll have a Avocado Bacon Supreme with large fries thanks

skidMark
21st January 2009, 13:26
Something about Mary... her special needs brother didn't like his ears touched. If you did you got a smack in the face.


You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Finn again.

vifferman
21st January 2009, 13:32
Spiders don't bother me, but my little sister is even more mental than AJ about them. She can't stand them being anywhere near her, but you're not allowed to kill them either - they have to be captured and liberated back into the Wild Yonder.

My pet hates are flies and mosquitoes - I'm not scared of them, just HATE the fookerz. :bash:

MyGSXF
21st January 2009, 13:37
Horrid little f^*%ers.. got a nasty bite on my leg years ago.. puss & guts.. took weeks to heal! :sick:

Then there was this one time at bandcamp.. I pulled back the blankets to get into bed.. & one ran out from between the sheets & under the pillow.. :gob: it was dead shortly thereafter.. :bash:

My old man used to kill tarantulas when living in Egypt.. :eek5: he said the size of the body would be the size of a mans fist.. plus the legs... :blink:

Stirts
21st January 2009, 13:40
got a nasty bike on my leg years ago.



was it a Honda?

MyGSXF
21st January 2009, 13:45
was it a Honda?

Yeah.. it made for a good bonfire starter though.. :shutup:

good spotting.. :msn-wink:

imdying
21st January 2009, 14:15
WTF WOMAN!!!

i dont know whats worse - finding out on the internet that you poison my dinners, or not being able to remember when i had Satay Chicken!

what do you want from Wendy's?

Bahahahahahh post of the year.... honestly, made my day :rofl:

Ixion
21st January 2009, 14:25
WTF WOMAN!!!

i dont know whats worse - finding out on the internet that you poison my dinners, or not being able to remember when i had Satay Chicken!

what do you want from Wendy's?

Oh dear. So I wonder who did get the lovingly prepared satay dinner :devil2:

nodrog
21st January 2009, 14:39
Oh dear. So I wonder who did get the lovingly prepared satay dinner :devil2:

some poor bastard

007XX
21st January 2009, 14:57
I profoundly dislike the f^%^ers!!! :eek5: :sick:

Just the idea of them legs on me makes me cringe big time.

Couple of weeks ago was quietly fishing with hubby on our ten foot tinny out in the Kaiwemaumau estuary when one of those creepy crawlees decided to slide down from the edge of my hat onto the lense of my sunglasses :gob::crazy:

I nearly made us capsize, dropped my rod and hubby thought I'd caught a Kingy :p........then proceeded to take the piss while gentlemanly removing the offending creepy shit from the boat!

My hero!!! *sigh*

98tls
21st January 2009, 18:14
Anyone got a pic of a white tail spider,was an article in the local rag awhile back saying we have big numbers of them round here but ive never come across one.

spookytooth
21st January 2009, 18:36
http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz/research/biosystematics/invertebrates/spiders/white_tail.asp
nasty little pricks

98tls
21st January 2009, 18:38
http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz/research/biosystematics/invertebrates/spiders/white_tail.asp
nasty little pricks Cheers spooky,no cant say ive seen one round here,not that i want to really.

MotoGirl
21st January 2009, 19:22
I researched these spiders awhile ago and learnt that they don't use webs and actively hunt their prey. I also found that it's a good thing to get rid of any other spider that they might eat, such as daddy long legs. Spiders never last long in my house - I'm a killing machine!

BiK3RChiK
21st January 2009, 20:35
they are nesting spiders too and prefer indoors to outdoors. If you see one, then there'll be more. We have hoardes of them here in the Eastern Bay. I kill them with monotonous regularity.