How come cops can get away with this rubbish?

[Filter_nz]

Stuff news today.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4862894a11.html

About Oct last year I followed a muffti Gold-coloured Holden Omega from Plimerton to the Paraparaumu station doing 120km.h the whole way about 11pm at night!! I eventually gave up because I worried I was being baited. I took the rego and was going lay a complaint but I didn't bother because I think police internal disciple / investigate is notional. That above stuff article is exactly the kind of thing that make me lose respect for the plod. Even a mate of mine who's a cop will go away over 100 in the 50 with red and blues on having a "race" to get to a call before the other cops cars do. I don't know police rules but I'm pretty sure that’s crazy speed! Again I don't say anything... what would it do.

Finally only a month ago coming into Featherston from Greytown I caught up to a car doing 85 all over the road, I passed him and set cruise control (I was in a car). He then started tail-gating me finally pulling out in his 1300cc Toyota in front of an on-coming Lexus which ran off the road.
I pulled over ran his rego through Carjam (I have 3G Wireless in the car for work) to get his street address, then white pages for the house number.
Went to his house where he was still in the car and asked him what is problem was? To which I got a mouth full of abuse... It took a bit of self-control to bite my tongue and stay in my car. I went to the Featherston police station and filed a report and was told I would hear from them.
THAT WAS OVER 3 MONTHS AGO.

Generally speaking I like the police, and respect the function they perform but a 'what ya gunna do about it' attitude, slackness, and internal “I’ve got you back” is creeping in and is it isn’t anything new (at least not in the public facing side of police function). You’ve only got to look back over 2007-2008 at the historic power-abuse, rape and corruption cases to see it’s an old ethos.
As always I’m sure it’s a minority ruining it for the rest but, again, this stuff article illustrates the standard set up the ‘top cops’.

[scumdog]

Yaawwwn.....<_<

[awayatc]

get a thief to catch a thief....

kids should be stopped being told at kindy to be fair....
Life isn't fair.....
get used to it.
The biggest/scariest and most feared gang operating here should be the Police....

Most coppers are people....
most people are arsholes in at least some situations...
Stands to reason then that some coppers are arsholes at least sometimes....

Has a Copper ever let you get off when he could have nailed you?.....
They have let me off plenty..
Live and let live

[Filter_nz]

Rubbish! They're paid to do a job they are not. It wouldn't hold up in the private sector why it should in the public.
When a 'top cop' who waves the big stick at drunk drivers is spotted by public driving home from a police bar badly, refuses a breath test and says he was home all night gets off at that and peeps like you say "live and let live" something’s wrong. All police would need to do is check if his tyres / engine were warm and ask if anyone at the police bar saw him there that night.
It would be easy to prove either was or was not home all night. I bet my bike if it was Joe public it would've been followed up.

[scumdog]

I bet my bike if it was Joe public it would've been followed up.

You think?

Very likely the same outcome.

[musicman]

Finally only a month ago coming into Featherston from Greytown I caught up to a car doing 85 all over the road, I passed him and set cruise control (I was in a car). He then started tail-gating me finally pulling out in his 1300cc Toyota in front of an on-coming Lexus which ran off the road.
I pulled over ran his rego through Carjam (I have 3G Wireless in the car for work) to get his street address, then white pages for the house number.
Went to his house where he was still in the car and asked him what is problem was? To which I got a mouth full of abuse... It took a bit of self-control to bite my tongue and stay in my car. I went to the Featherston police station and filed a report and was told I would hear from them.
THAT WAS OVER 3 MONTHS AGO.


Ummmm.... am I missing something here???

[MSTRS]

Finally only a month ago .....
THAT WAS OVER 3 MONTHS AGO.



So which was it? I hear what you are saying, but complaints are only as good as the facts.

[awayatc]

and peeps like you

And peeps like me...?
What's a peep?
who else is like me?
I am unique...

Police is there to clean up the mess you can't deal with yourself.....
Bit like Rugby...as long as the biggest meanest players are on your side you are looking good.
Sometimes the ref's blind.

who cares as long as you win..?

[CookMySock]

Ummmm.... am I missing something here???No. It's just another KBer getting wound up about all the perceived injustice in the world, and trying to solve it single-handedly, and putting himself at risk doing so.

You cant tell them it wont affect them, because they will manipulate circumstance so that it DOES affect them, and use that outcome to provide evidence to prove they were right to begin with.

You cant tell them the injustice is only in their perception, because they have been so mistreated so far, that they can only see injustice.

You cant use logic to explain anything to them, because they take any and all explanation as persuasion and they will believe that you are trying to justify your own illicit actions.

So pretty much you are screwed trying to tell them, and they are screwed trying to tell you, so best we get back to our peaceful existence and leave them to their distraught one.

Steve

[awayatc]

Went to his house where he was still in the car and asked him what is problem was? To which I got a mouth full of abuse... It took a bit of self-control to bite my tongue and stay in my car. I went to the Featherston police station and filed a report and was told I would hear from them.
THAT WAS OVER 3 MONTHS AGO.

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what are you trying to say?
So you play detective, go to a guys home who you perceive as a lunitic/arshole to talk to him "sternly" (I presume)
Then when he tells you to F*ck off, you go to the local cops to cry.
Now you are angry that after 3 months you still did not get a medal...

Somehow this is supposed to be related to another cop being aquited in court...

You done a psychological evaluation lately?


last time I did abit of "stern talking" to perceived arsholes, I was quite pleased that the police didn't realy wanted to know about it....

[vifferman]

Personally, I think that if the cop had a legal right to refuse to take an evidential breath test, then that's fair enough. The law is the law.

[awayatc]

vifferman, vifferman, you only say that because you haven't got a chip on your shoulder....

[SixPackBack]

Stuff news today.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4862894a11.html

All good, said copper was acting within the law.

About Oct last year I followed a muffti Gold-coloured Holden Omega from Plimerton to the Paraparaumu station doing 120km.h the whole way about 11pm at night!! I eventually gave up because I worried I was being baited. I took the rego and was going lay a complaint but I didn't bother because I think police internal disciple / investigate is notional. That above stuff article is exactly the kind of thing that make me lose respect for the plod. Even a mate of mine who's a cop will go away over 100 in the 50 with red and blues on having a "race" to get to a call before the other cops cars do. I don't know police rules but I'm pretty sure that’s crazy speed! Again I don't say anything... what would it do.

120 is hardly a big concern..........racing to a call is what we pay the coppers for, you would be pissed if they fucked around finishing their donuts and travelling at the speed limit, waiting in traffic etc

Finally only a month ago coming into Featherston from Greytown I caught up to a car doing 85 all over the road, I passed him and set cruise control (I was in a car). He then started tail-gating me finally pulling out in his 1300cc Toyota in front of an on-coming Lexus which ran off the road.
I pulled over ran his rego through Carjam (I have 3G Wireless in the car for work) to get his street address, then white pages for the house number.
Went to his house where he was still in the car and asked him what is problem was? To which I got a mouth full of abuse... It took a bit of self-control to bite my tongue and stay in my car. I went to the Featherston police station and filed a report and was told I would hear from them.
THAT WAS OVER 3 MONTHS AGO.

Dumbass, lucky you didn't get your head smacked in. Take the number, ring the cops. Again that's what we pay the cops to do and if they didn't appear to take any action its tough shit-accept it and move on!

Generally speaking I like the police, and respect the function they perform but a 'what ya gunna do about it' attitude, slackness, and internal “I’ve got you back” is creeping in and is it isn’t anything new (at least not in the public facing side of police function). You’ve only got to look back over 2007-2008 at the historic power-abuse, rape and corruption cases to see it’s an old ethos.
As always I’m sure it’s a minority ruining it for the rest but, again, this stuff article illustrates the standard set up the ‘top cops’.

I am inclined to agree with you to a limited extent, we do seem to have a few dodgy coppers and questionable culture, but nothing you have posted here is cause for concern.

[slofox]

If we are serious about getting rid of drink driving, this case should have been pursued. It 's shouldn't have to do with what the driver does for a job...

[Muppet]

And peeps like me...?
What's a peep?
who else is like me?
I am unique...

Police is there to clean up the mess you can't deal with yourself.....
Bit like Rugby...as long as the biggest meanest players are on your side you are looking good.
Sometimes the ref's blind.

who cares as long as you win..?

Yeah what the hell is a peep? Am I a peep? Are you a peep?

[Ixion]

You are a peep. I, on the other hand, am a beep. He is a creep. And that is a jeep. Clear now?

[scumdog]

You are a peep. I, on the other hand, am a beep. He is a creep. And that is a jeep. Clear now?

Should that be 'cleer now'??

[slofox]

You are a peep. I, on the other hand, am a beep. He is a creep. And that is a jeep. Clear now?

OK but what about the HEEP???

[firefighter]

Stuff news today.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4862894a11.html

About Oct last year I followed a muffti Gold-coloured Holden Omega from Plimerton to the Paraparaumu station doing 120km.h the whole way about 11pm at night!! .

I guess your one of those- not see the big picture people (or just ill-informed?)

How do you know this cop was'nt needing to get there in a hurry, yet did'nt want to turn on his lights so he did'nt scare/daze/confuse other drivers.......? People do fucken weird shit when they see flashing lights coming.....

Been known to do similar stuff myself on the open road (at night) where there is no traffic in the way

Just a thought though....

[Ixion]

OK but what about the HEEP???

Go wash your mouf out wiv soap. We don't talk about him on this site.

[slofox]

Go wash your mouf out wiv soap. We don't talk about him on this site.

What's wrong with Uriah Heep? I quite liked that music once....I think...or...umm...maybr it was...ahhhphuc......

[awayatc]

Uriah heep?

Look at yourself!

[mctshirt]

Anyone fancy a game of golf in the glasshouse? ;)

[slofox]

Anyone fancy a game of golf in the glasshouse? ;)

I usually do the clay target shooting in the glasshouse...golf in the lounge

[marty]

pretty much the same way Kiwibikers can....

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=91918

[bsasuper]

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Finally only a month ago coming into Featherston from Greytown I caught up to a car doing 85 all over the road, I passed him and set cruise control (I was in a car). He then started tail-gating me finally pulling out in his 1300cc Toyota in front of an on-coming Lexus which ran off the road.
I pulled over ran his rego through Carjam (I have 3G Wireless in the car for work) to get his street address, then white pages for the house number.
Went to his house where he was still in the car and asked him what is problem was? To which I got a mouth full of abuse... It took a bit of self-control to bite my tongue and stay in my car. I went to the Featherston police station and filed a report and was told I would hear from them.
THAT WAS OVER 3 MONTHS AGO.

.[/QUOTE]


MY EX used to follow me around/home, what a nut

[awayatc]

sounds like you found him again....

[Skyryder]

You are a peep. I, on the other hand, am a beep. He is a creep. And that is a jeep. Clear now?

And all others except peeps, beeps and creeps are sheeps'. Me I'm a sheep cause I just bleat.


Skyyrder

[Filter_nz]

You think?

Very likely the same outcome.
Your most likely right... I'd probably lose my bike on that bet.


So which was it? I hear what you are saying, but complaints are only as good as the facts.
Your right, my typo. It was just before Christmas so closer to three months but picking holes in my typos misses the point of my thread.


blah blah blah I'm very cleaver Steve, usually you have something useful and / or thoughtful. In this case you're out to flame and missing the point.

*************
PEEPS in this context = like minded people. In other words "peeps like you" = people who think like you. I'm sure I didn't coin the term peeps, maybe it's bebo short-hand.

Bottom line; On the face it the 'top cop' got away with drunk driving by knowing the system and lying. It would also appear the police didn't try that hard to prove either way if it did or did not.

I also think it's fair to assume if I took time to fill in a police report about a drunk driver and the clerk said I would be hearing from them that I would. Sure the worlds not fair but why have a go at me for proving that to be true?


And my final responce... to bsasuper, this post by you from a Road Rage thread.

Had a strange experience last night riding home, country road south auckland,came upon a car following a truck doing 80, car passed truck then i passed both of them, car saw me and speed up as i was passing, no big problem i was on the VFR so just powered ahead, now car was right up my arse as i slowed to cruising speed, seems car was pissed off with me and goes to overtake, no problem just let car pass (being safe) then just re pass car after car pulls back in, well this really pissed of car as car swerves at me as i pass!!!,well thats just not cricket.Anyway i know where car lives and car will have a hard time starting come monday morning.
..and you're call me a nut *sigh*

[trainingwheels]

Personlly i think that the copps have about ass little respect for other fellow cops cause they see and hear about this cop doing this or that in the news and it doesnt make they feel any better cause it puts all cops in the spot light.

Im sure there are decent cops out there and they hate the bad cops to im sure...

There i think i have solved the job losses here in New Zealand...... all people unemployed due to recession.... become a cop... theres heaps of jobs going?.. and werent we promised by the GOV another 500 or so cops??!!

Think about the bonuses, Hotted up car with flashing lights, big stick, discounted McDonlds, free pepper(spray) for macs, over $50k per/year... sweet:Police:

[Skyryder]

There was a thread on this 'linked' subject just a while back. I may be wrong but I thought there were some posters who stated with some authority that if asked you were compelled to comply with the officers instructions in your home. I'm not up with this link thingy from one thread to the next.

Anyone??


Skyryder

[Dave-]

"cops" get away with rubbish the same way you get away with rubbish.

[MentalFacility]

Rofl. The irony. To know how fast they were going you'd have to speed too...

Oh well. Stop crying about it, see an agressive driver\rider on the road? Just let them go, and keep your eyes on the road. Cops are JUST people too, some of them do their job well, some just do it as they can. Its not their fault someone speeds.

And that "bite ur tongue" excuce, I bet you were about to shit ur pants.=)

[Fatjim]

I ride and drive everywhere in a 100k zone with 120 on the speedo. Thats because it really isn't 120k, its actually abuot 108-109k. Thats why I never get pinged, and I travel one of Welly's most "policed" roads every day.

So, in effect, you followed a cop doing less than 110kph, but you thought he was going faster. In reality, you probably drive everywhere at under 90kph, which pisses everyone else off.

[Patrick]

If we are serious about getting rid of drink driving, this case should have been pursued. It 's shouldn't have to do with what the driver does for a job...

It didn't have anythnig to fdo with what he did for a job. He was not freshly pursued, so didn't have to do anything.... just like EVERYONE else in this country....


Bottom line; On the face it the 'top cop' got away with drunk driving by knowing the system and lying. It would also appear the police didn't try that hard to prove either way if it did or did not.

I also think it's fair to assume if I took time to fill in a police report about a drunk driver and the clerk said I would be hearing from them that I would. Sure the worlds not fair but why have a go at me for proving that to be true?


Bottom line is that although not processed, his integrity is fooked.


.... Hotted up car with flashing lights, big stick, discounted McDonlds, free pepper(spray) for macs, over $50k per/year... sweet:Police:

Hotted up car???????????? Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa....

Big stick? Not any more.....

Discounted McD's? The bosses tried to stop that too... and suceeded in many parts.

Pepper sprayon ya Macs? Go on, I dare ya....

$50K per year? Only for newbies.....

[Indoo]

There i think i have solved the job losses here in New Zealand...... all people unemployed due to recession.... become a cop... theres heaps of jobs going?.. and werent we promised by the GOV another 500 or so cops??!!

Think about the bonuses, Hotted up car with flashing lights, big stick, discounted McDonlds, free pepper(spray) for macs, over $50k per/year... sweet:Police:

Which is probably why we are getting so many people fooled by the 50k + free uni signs by the harbour bridge.

In busy areas where your doing lots of unpaid overtime those road workers on the harbour bridge are getting paid the same rate if not more given the hours put in.

The last people you want in the job are those who become cops because of the 'money' we all know where that leads.

[idb]

All jobs have their perks.
I get all the free power I can eat.

[scumdog]

All jobs have their perks.
I get all the free power I can eat.

I thought it was the chicks that were free....or something like that??

[Goblin]

I thought it was the chicks that were free....or something like that??No it's the 'trips' that are free...you just have to watch out for trees.

[Muppet]

No it's the 'trips' that are free...you just have to watch out for trees.

Did someone say trees?????:eek5:

[scracha]

Think about the bonuses, Hotted up car with flashing lights, big stick, discounted McDonlds, free pepper(spray) for macs, over $50k per/year... sweet:Police:

Your forgot to mention that cops get the best dope.


Cop drink driving and getting away with it...some things never change in any country. I'm more concerned that it's possible to find people so easily using CarJam. Can't be good for single females or owners of exotic cars/motorcycles.

[scumdog]

Your forgot to mention that cops get the best dope.


Cop drink driving and getting away with it...some things never change in any country. I'm more concerned that it's possible to find people so easily using CarJam. Can't be good for single females or owners of exotic cars/motorcycles.

Are you female or do you have an exotic car/motorcycle??

[SixPackBack]

Your forgot to mention that cops get the best dope.


Cop drink driving and getting away with it...some things never change in any country. I'm more concerned that it's possible to find people so easily using CarJam. Can't be good for single females or owners of exotic cars/motorcycles.

Talked to an ex Sergeant not who works with my wife, shared a few beers at the annual office bar-b-cue!. He worked in the force for nearly twenty years and had some amusing tales to tell. One that particularly caught my attention was after hours drinking and the general drinking culture within the force [during 80's-90's], it was apparently common place for binge drinking to take place and driving afterwards. He claimed that he was not proud of his actions and that the culture may well have changed since his departure. The drinking story [among others] gave the impression that the coppers behaved like real cowboys at least when he was around.

[vgcspares]

How do you know this cop was'nt needing to get there in a hurry, yet did'nt want to turn on his lights so he did'nt scare/daze/confuse other drivers.......? ...

I'm reasonably sure cops are meant to obey the same laws as us "peeps" unless they have their lights on

still they made the rule that they're exempt when their lights are on so I suppose they could make another one up which allows them to do whatever they like whether their lights are on or not ...

[firefighter]

I'm reasonably sure cops are meant to obey the same laws as us "peeps" unless they have their lights on

still they made the rule that they're exempt when their lights are on so I suppose they could make another one up which allows them to do whatever they like whether their lights are on or not ...

Obviously you didn't read my whole post, there was another 2-3 lines there, which explained this phenomenon to you....

How about, for example, they did'nt want to be seen coming? or/ they didn't want to freak out people coming the other way? (I also wrote this in my last post, if you had bothered to read it-that people do weird shit when they see these lights coming at them....especially on the open road)
Please explain what possible benefit there would be, driving with flashing lights on, on the open road, at night, when the road is clear? Apart from unnerving the traffic coming the opposite way, your not doing anything to help your cause, the lights don't make the vehicle handle any better, you realise that eh?

You deliberately missed my previous points out, nice one for jumping on the usual "cops are bad guys" wagon though dude, makes you real objective.....not broken record at all. :Pokey:

[scracha]

Are you female or do you have an exotic car/motorcycle??
Nope..and I won't be buying my girlfriend the porsche she wants any time soon.