How come cops can get away with this rubbish?

**Filter_nz** · 28th February 2009, 07:24

Stuff news today.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4862894a11.html

About Oct last year I followed a muffti Gold-coloured Holden Omega from Plimerton to the Paraparaumu station doing 120km.h the whole way about 11pm at night!! I eventually gave up because I worried I was being baited. I took the rego and was going lay a complaint but I didn't bother because I think police internal disciple / investigate is notional. That above stuff article is exactly the kind of thing that make me lose respect for the plod. Even a mate of mine who's a cop will go away over 100 in the 50 with red and blues on having a "race" to get to a call before the other cops cars do. I don't know police rules but I'm pretty sure that’s crazy speed! Again I don't say anything... what would it do.

Finally only a month ago coming into Featherston from Greytown I caught up to a car doing 85 all over the road, I passed him and set cruise control (I was in a car). He then started tail-gating me finally pulling out in his 1300cc Toyota in front of an on-coming Lexus which ran off the road.
I pulled over ran his rego through Carjam (I have 3G Wireless in the car for work) to get his street address, then white pages for the house number.
Went to his house where he was still in the car and asked him what is problem was? To which I got a mouth full of abuse... It took a bit of self-control to bite my tongue and stay in my car. I went to the Featherston police station and filed a report and was told I would hear from them.
THAT WAS OVER 3 MONTHS AGO.

Generally speaking I like the police, and respect the function they perform but a 'what ya gunna do about it' attitude, slackness, and internal “I’ve got you back” is creeping in and is it isn’t anything new (at least not in the public facing side of police function). You’ve only got to look back over 2007-2008 at the historic power-abuse, rape and corruption cases to see it’s an old ethos.
As always I’m sure it’s a minority ruining it for the rest but, again, this stuff article illustrates the standard set up the ‘top cops’.

**scumdog** · 28th February 2009, 07:26

Yaawwwn.....

**awayatc** · 28th February 2009, 08:25

get a thief to catch a thief....

kids should be stopped being told at kindy to be fair....
Life isn't fair.....
get used to it.
The biggest/scariest and most feared gang operating here should be the Police....

Most coppers are people....
most people are arsholes in at least some situations...
Stands to reason then that some coppers are arsholes at least sometimes....

Has a Copper ever let you get off when he could have nailed you?.....
They have let me off plenty..
Live and let live

**Filter_nz** · 28th February 2009, 09:27

Rubbish! They're paid to do a job they are not. It wouldn't hold up in the private sector why it should in the public.
When a 'top cop' who waves the big stick at drunk drivers is spotted by public driving home from a police bar badly, refuses a breath test and says he was home all night gets off at that and peeps like you say "live and let live" something’s wrong. All police would need to do is check if his tyres / engine were warm and ask if anyone at the police bar saw him there that night.
It would be easy to prove either was or was not home all night. I bet my bike if it was Joe public it would've been followed up.

**scumdog** · 28th February 2009, 09:49

Originally Posted by Filter_nz

I bet my bike if it was Joe public it would've been followed up.

You think?

Very likely the same outcome.

**musicman** · 28th February 2009, 09:55

Originally Posted by Filter_nz

Finally only a month ago coming into Featherston from Greytown I caught up to a car doing 85 all over the road, I passed him and set cruise control (I was in a car). He then started tail-gating me finally pulling out in his 1300cc Toyota in front of an on-coming Lexus which ran off the road.
I pulled over ran his rego through Carjam (I have 3G Wireless in the car for work) to get his street address, then white pages for the house number.
Went to his house where he was still in the car and asked him what is problem was? To which I got a mouth full of abuse... It took a bit of self-control to bite my tongue and stay in my car. I went to the Featherston police station and filed a report and was told I would hear from them.
THAT WAS OVER 3 MONTHS AGO.

Ummmm.... am I missing something here???

**MSTRS:Me** · 28th February 2009, 10:03

Originally Posted by Filter_nz

Finally only a month ago .....
THAT WAS OVER 3 MONTHS AGO.

So which was it? I hear what you are saying, but complaints are only as good as the facts.

**awayatc** · 28th February 2009, 10:13

Originally Posted by Filter_nz

and peeps like you

And peeps like me...?
What's a peep?
who else is like me?
I am unique...

Police is there to clean up the mess you can't deal with yourself.....
Bit like Rugby...as long as the biggest meanest players are on your side you are looking good.
Sometimes the ref's blind.

who cares as long as you win..?

**CookMySock** · 28th February 2009, 10:15

Originally Posted by musicman

Ummmm.... am I missing something here???

No. It's just another KBer getting wound up about all the perceived injustice in the world, and trying to solve it single-handedly, and putting himself at risk doing so.

You cant tell them it wont affect them, because they will manipulate circumstance so that it DOES affect them, and use that outcome to provide evidence to prove they were right to begin with.

You cant tell them the injustice is only in their perception, because they have been so mistreated so far, that they can only see injustice.

You cant use logic to explain anything to them, because they take any and all explanation as persuasion and they will believe that you are trying to justify your own illicit actions.

So pretty much you are screwed trying to tell them, and they are screwed trying to tell you, so best we get back to our peaceful existence and leave them to their distraught one.

Steve

**awayatc** · 28th February 2009, 10:28

Originally Posted by Filter_nz

Went to his house where he was still in the car and asked him what is problem was? To which I got a mouth full of abuse... It took a bit of self-control to bite my tongue and stay in my car. I went to the Featherston police station and filed a report and was told I would hear from them.
THAT WAS OVER 3 MONTHS AGO.

.

what are you trying to say?
So you play detective, go to a guys home who you perceive as a lunitic/arshole to talk to him "sternly" (I presume)
Then when he tells you to F*ck off, you go to the local cops to cry.
Now you are angry that after 3 months you still did not get a medal...

Somehow this is supposed to be related to another cop being aquited in court...

You done a psychological evaluation lately?

last time I did abit of "stern talking" to perceived arsholes, I was quite pleased that the police didn't realy wanted to know about it....

**vifferman** · 28th February 2009, 10:34

Personally, I think that if the cop had a legal right to refuse to take an evidential breath test, then that's fair enough. The law is the law.

**awayatc** · 28th February 2009, 10:39

vifferman, vifferman, you only say that because you haven't got a chip on your shoulder....

**SixPackBack** · 28th February 2009, 11:00

Originally Posted by Filter_nz

Stuff news today.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4862894a11.html

All good, said copper was acting within the law.

About Oct last year I followed a muffti Gold-coloured Holden Omega from Plimerton to the Paraparaumu station doing 120km.h the whole way about 11pm at night!! I eventually gave up because I worried I was being baited. I took the rego and was going lay a complaint but I didn't bother because I think police internal disciple / investigate is notional. That above stuff article is exactly the kind of thing that make me lose respect for the plod. Even a mate of mine who's a cop will go away over 100 in the 50 with red and blues on having a "race" to get to a call before the other cops cars do. I don't know police rules but I'm pretty sure that’s crazy speed! Again I don't say anything... what would it do.

120 is hardly a big concern..........racing to a call is what we pay the coppers for, you would be pissed if they fucked around finishing their donuts and travelling at the speed limit, waiting in traffic etc

Finally only a month ago coming into Featherston from Greytown I caught up to a car doing 85 all over the road, I passed him and set cruise control (I was in a car). He then started tail-gating me finally pulling out in his 1300cc Toyota in front of an on-coming Lexus which ran off the road.
I pulled over ran his rego through Carjam (I have 3G Wireless in the car for work) to get his street address, then white pages for the house number.
Went to his house where he was still in the car and asked him what is problem was? To which I got a mouth full of abuse... It took a bit of self-control to bite my tongue and stay in my car. I went to the Featherston police station and filed a report and was told I would hear from them.
THAT WAS OVER 3 MONTHS AGO.

Dumbass, lucky you didn't get your head smacked in. Take the number, ring the cops. Again that's what we pay the cops to do and if they didn't appear to take any action its tough shit-accept it and move on!

Generally speaking I like the police, and respect the function they perform but a 'what ya gunna do about it' attitude, slackness, and internal “I’ve got you back” is creeping in and is it isn’t anything new (at least not in the public facing side of police function). You’ve only got to look back over 2007-2008 at the historic power-abuse, rape and corruption cases to see it’s an old ethos.
As always I’m sure it’s a minority ruining it for the rest but, again, this stuff article illustrates the standard set up the ‘top cops’.

I am inclined to agree with you to a limited extent, we do seem to have a few dodgy coppers and questionable culture, but nothing you have posted here is cause for concern.

**slofox** · 28th February 2009, 11:16

If we are serious about getting rid of drink driving, this case should have been pursued. It 's shouldn't have to do with what the driver does for a job...

**Muppet** · 28th February 2009, 11:57

Originally Posted by awayatc

And peeps like me...?
What's a peep?
who else is like me?
I am unique...

Police is there to clean up the mess you can't deal with yourself.....
Bit like Rugby...as long as the biggest meanest players are on your side you are looking good.
Sometimes the ref's blind.

who cares as long as you win..?

Yeah what the hell is a peep? Am I a peep? Are you a peep?