Two-stroke exhaust fabricator?

[del-solider]

Hey guys just wondering if anybody out there noes of any one in NZ who can make a decent set of 2 Smoker pipes?

Im in the process of derestricting my TZR250, and one of the most restricting parts is the pipes so bye bye the need to go.
I can get some good quality pipes outa Japan and the U.K. But just seeing if theres anyone locally who can make a good quailty set?

Thanks

[speedpro]

They take a long time to make. Time is money. Just get them ready made or as a kitset.

[Racey Rider]

I had thought about these W.M.S. (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Exhaust/auction-205381764.htm) ones.
Let us know what you think about them if you get them.

Or I was going to go see Musket (http://www.musket.co.nz/) to see if they would make something up for my RGV, as they're just down the road from me.

Be interested to hear other options tho.

Racey.

[del-solider]

I had thought about these W.M.S. (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Exhaust/auction-205381764.htm) ones.
Let us know what you think about them if you get them.

Or I was going to go see Musket (http://www.musket.co.nz/) to see if they would make something up for my RGV, as they're just down the road from me.

Be interested to hear other options tho.

Racey.

Im not After the muffler like those Trademe ones after the whole exhaust system, to be made. Think ill probably just get some from Japan

[geoffm]

What a bout Wobbly in Tauranga. What I have seen is nice - but not cheap.
TZR pipes woudl be like copulating snakes I imaging = $$$$ to make.
I think Nikon in the UK do some - depending on what model it is.
Geoff

[Billy]

Hey guys just wondering if anybody out there noes of any one in NZ who can make a decent set of 2 Smoker pipes?

Im in the process of derestricting my TZR250, and one of the most restricting parts is the pipes so bye bye the need to go.
I can get some good quality pipes outa Japan and the U.K. But just seeing if theres anyone locally who can make a good quailty set?

Thanks

Any of the V-twin TZ pipes should just about bolt straight on,But you will need the collars that bolt on to the cylinder as well.The following people may be able too help,Karel Pavich,Gary Pendleton, or John Beck.If you have trouble contacting them,PM me and i will send you their numbers.Not keen too list other peeps numbers on the internet.Also be aware you will also need to Re jet the carbs to suit

[Billy]

I had thought about these W.M.S. (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Exhaust/auction-205381764.htm) ones.
Let us know what you think about them if you get them.

Or I was going to go see Musket (http://www.musket.co.nz/) to see if they would make something up for my RGV, as they're just down the road from me.

Be interested to hear other options tho.

Racey.

There was a set of Sagaya (kit) pipes for an RGV on friday listed under exhausts

[blackstars_10]

hmm yeah i definately wouldn't go using tz or rgv pipes on it. They need to match the bike (port-timings, ignition, etc) and ideally each bike should have specific pipes designed for its state of tune. If your do use pipes from other bikes worst case scenario is, a hole in your piston or seizure. I've got sugayas on my rgv and they are superb, but would pretty much be useless on your tzr (even if you could get them to fit without fouling). If you want pipes designed for your own bike, i would try to see if you could find some 'kit' pipe measurements (as manufacturer often knows best), and take these to a place like Harris Pipes (christchurch), and they can start out with these dimensions and match them to your bike. best of luck.

[del-solider]

hmm yeah i definately wouldn't go using tz or rgv pipes on it. They need to match the bike (port-timings, ignition, etc) and ideally each bike should have specific pipes designed for its state of tune. If your do use pipes from other bikes worst case scenario is, a hole in your piston or seizure. I've got sugayas on my rgv and they are superb, but would pretty much be useless on your tzr (even if you could get them to fit without fouling). If you want pipes designed for your own bike, i would try to see if you could find some 'kit' pipe measurements (as manufacturer often knows best), and take these to a place like Harris Pipes (christchurch), and they can start out with these dimensions and match them to your bike. best of luck.

Thanks for the help mate but i decided in the end now to either go for the Jackal pipes out of Japan or the Bosson ones out of South Africa. Guys in England have seen good gains from both sets of these pipes :)

[CookMySock]

Theres all sorts of two-stroke tuning stuff here, including a spreadsheet to make expansion chambers.

http://www.two-stroke-addicts.freeserve.co.uk/downloads/

DB

[koba]

hmm yeah i definately wouldn't go using tz or rgv pipes on it. They need to match the bike (port-timings, ignition, etc) and ideally each bike should have specific pipes designed for its state of tune. If your do use pipes from other bikes worst case scenario is, a hole in your piston or seizure. I've got sugayas on my rgv and they are superb, but would pretty much be useless on your tzr (even if you could get them to fit without fouling). If you want pipes designed for your own bike, i would try to see if you could find some 'kit' pipe measurements (as manufacturer often knows best), and take these to a place like Harris Pipes (christchurch), and they can start out with these dimensions and match them to your bike. best of luck.

Know a bit about it do you?

[koba]

Hey guys just wondering if anybody out there noes of any one in NZ who can make a decent set of 2 Smoker pipes?

Im in the process of derestricting my TZR250, and one of the most restricting parts is the pipes so bye bye the need to go.
I can get some good quality pipes outa Japan and the U.K. But just seeing if theres anyone locally who can make a good quailty set?

Thanks

Mate, doing what billy said is a smart thing, especially as you MAY be able to pind the pipes for a better price than flash new fancy ones will cost.

[blackstars_10]

na mate, I wasn't claiming to be an expert at all. Just trying to save him some problems which i think he would come across. Sorry if i ruffled your feathers a bit with that. I'm sure billy's a good guy and knows his stuff-I was just trying to present another side which i thought was fair. If you don't agree with something i said then point it out to me, i'm more than happy to share ideas and learn off you.

[chelseapar]

I confuse...:confused: Who right? can i use udder exhuast ok is on my motorcycle?

[koba]

hmm yeah i definately wouldn't go using tz or rgv pipes on it. They need to match the bike (port-timings, ignition, etc) and ideally each bike should have specific pipes designed for its state of tune. If your do use pipes from other bikes worst case scenario is, a hole in your piston or seizure. I've got sugayas on my rgv and they are superb, but would pretty much be useless on your tzr (even if you could get them to fit without fouling). If you want pipes designed for your own bike, i would try to see if you could find some 'kit' pipe measurements (as manufacturer often knows best), and take these to a place like Harris Pipes (christchurch), and they can start out with these dimensions and match them to your bike. best of luck.


na mate, I wasn't claiming to be an expert at all. Just trying to save him some problems which i think he would come across. Sorry if i ruffled your feathers a bit with that. I'm sure billy's a good guy and knows his stuff-I was just trying to present another side which i thought was fair. If you don't agree with something i said then point it out to me, i'm more than happy to share ideas and learn off you.


When deciding wether or not to follow different advice it helps to know where each bit is coming from.

I know Billy knows what he is talking about.

You make good points but personally I would be presenting them as an alternative option instead of a "don't do that, do this" kind of approach

Now I'm sure this fellow will be perfectly happy with his aftermarket pipes.
del-solider let us know how they go for you.

[blackstars_10]

When deciding wether or not to follow different advice it helps to know where each bit is coming from.

I know Billy knows what he is talking about.

You make good points but personally I would be presenting them as an alternative option instead of a "don't do that, do this" kind of approach

Now I'm sure this fellow will be perfectly happy with his aftermarket pipes.
del-solider let us know how they go for you.


Thats a good post koba. Yeah, thats good advice about knowing what experience the advice is coming from. Its a bit of a catch-22 though, i afraid, because if you go round tooting you're own trumpet about your experience then you get cut down aswell. But i suppose that my low posting numbers portray a certain image, which may lead people to think i know nothing.

And yes, you are right i may have been able to choose my words a little bit better than i did. I always struggle to write things that are taken in the way which i mean them. At the end of the day, i guess people just try to take each post at its merit and discern for themselves what sounds best.

[koba]

Thats a good post koba. Yeah, thats good advice about knowing what experience the advice is coming from. Its a bit of a catch-22 though, i afraid, because if you go round tooting you're own trumpet about your experience then you get cut down aswell. But i suppose that my low posting numbers portray a certain image, which may lead people to think i know nothing.

And yes, you are right i may have been able to choose my words a little bit better than i did. I always struggle to write things that are taken in the way which i mean them. At the end of the day, i guess people just try to take each post at its merit and discern for themselves what sounds best.

I guess that is all part of the "fun" in posting on a forum!

[chelseapar]

Hello? no people answer my email? What i do? Is good or is bad?

[del-solider]

Hello? no people answer my email? What i do? Is good or is bad?

From what i can gather from your 1st is that you wanna know if you can use another bikes exhaust on your bike?
Well what bike have you got? what you wanna use etc etc.

Best to start your own thread alot more people will help you then :cool:

[CookMySock]

[....] if you go round tooting you're own trumpet about your experience then you get cut down aswell. But i suppose that my low posting numbers portray a certain image, which may lead people to think i know nothing.[QUOTE=blacksWell it doesn't really matter in the end. Everyone likes to post their opinion on an Internet Forum, so just do it.

Then you will get those who like to cut people down on an Internet Forum, and they will find an outlet for that somewhere where it is PERMITTED.. (shoots an annoyed glance at the moderators..)

I remember some newbie to KB who got ranted at in their first post, saying "We will always take what we want from what is offered" and I will always remember that.


people just try to take each post at its merit and discern for themselves what sounds best.Don't we all? Everything is just Opinion. We all filter for our own truth, then we go do as we see fit.

Steve

[skidMark]

I had thought about these W.M.S. (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Exhaust/auction-205381764.htm) ones.
Let us know what you think about them if you get them.

Or I was going to go see Musket (http://www.musket.co.nz/) to see if they would make something up for my RGV, as they're just down the road from me.

Be interested to hear other options tho.

Racey.


If you want anymore info on ANY products from WMS i work for him...

So can get more pictures etc etc etc...

The mufflers you speak of are straight through (ie no baffle plates) the are a straight through with perforated tube with the baffling filling around the outside.

Have had no complaints about this product.

[skidMark]

Any of the V-twin TZ pipes should just about bolt straight on,But you will need the collars that bolt on to the cylinder as well.The following people may be able too help,Karel Pavich,Gary Pendleton, or John Beck.If you have trouble contacting them,PM me and i will send you their numbers.Not keen too list other peeps numbers on the internet.Also be aware you will also need to Re jet the carbs to suit


TZR's are parrelel twin....

[imdying]

TZR's are parrelel twin....Where was he talking about the TZRs?

[del-solider]

TZR's are parrelel twin....

Not all of them the older 3ma is a parrelel twin but my model the 3xv(1991 till 1994??) is a V twin

[chelseapar]

hello del-soldier. i has 2007 NSR250 MC21. I use rgv250 or cbr250 exhausts, ok? or no? no one talks email back to me.

[skidMark]

Not all of them the older 3ma is a parrelel twin but my model the 3xv(1991 till 1994??) is a V twin


Really i thought they were all parralel twin, yeah used to have a 3ma myself reverse cylinder, i knew they ditched the revese cylinder on later models but didn't know they went to v twin....

Interesting...

Skid.

[del-solider]

hello del-soldier. i has 2007 NSR250 MC21. I use rgv250 or cbr250 exhausts, ok? or no? no one talks email back to me.

A 2007?? u sure about that...

You wont be able to use the cbr250 exhaust as its a 4stroke and you cant use a rgv250 one like it has been said above using an exhuast for you bike thats not made for ur bike is not a good idea on a 2 stroke.

Why do you wana change your exhaust on your bike anyway?

[blackstars_10]

hello del-soldier. i has 2007 NSR250 MC21. I use rgv250 or cbr250 exhausts, ok? or no? no one talks email back to me.


hey mate. Maybe it would be best if you put your location on your profile so that someone close to you can give you a hand. Um i think you may be a little bit confused with what you have there. They didn't produce nsr's in 2007. I think they stopped producing the mc28 in ~1999 (i may be wrong). the mc21 was produced from about 1990 to 1993?. So, you've probably got a mc21 that was registered or reregistered in 2007. But anyway, that doesn't matter, if its the mc21 you've got a good model.
As to the exhaust question, I personally wouldn't recommend interchanging two stroke pipes; but thats just my opinion (If you have the money i'd definately get tygas from tyga-performance.com). And the cbr250 (did you mean that?) pipes are completely out of the question, as the cbr is a four stroke and uses a very differant exhaust system (as well as being an inline 4). Hope that helps

And as del-soldier said- in the future it would be best to start your own thread if you have a question.


edit- lol took me a bit long to write this one. del soldier beat me to it..

[chelseapar]

no, you wrong. it 2007 nsr250. I check. it special motorcycle. very rare. me also think you wrong for exhuast, my frend say cbr250 exhuast fit-because honda make so you change.
I to change exhuast for more sound. Can someone know to confirm my frend that cbr250 exhuast fit my nsr? i don't want buy if not work..

[imdying]

Those 2007 MC21 NSR250s are very nice.

You should buy CBR exhaust from friend, will work very well.

Will sound very nice.

Have fun. Good luck.

[del-solider]

no, you wrong. it 2007 nsr250. I check. it special motorcycle. very rare. me also think you wrong for exhuast, my frend say cbr250 exhuast fit-because honda make so you change.
I to change exhuast for more sound. Can someone know to confirm my frend that cbr250 exhuast fit my nsr? i don't want buy if not work..

Mate we are trying to help you and then you say we are wrong??? WTF, like me and blackstars_10 have said you dont get a 2007 NSR but keep thinking that if you like and like weve both said you cant use a CBR250 exhaust because its a four stroke exhaust and your bike is a two stroke(if it is even a nsr250):whistle:.

And if you changing it for the sound coz you want it to sound like a CBR it wont work it never sound like that its a 2 sttoke not a 4stroke IL4.
I rekon just stick with your exhaust or if youve got the money get the tyga exhaust like blackstars_10 said they really good exhausts.

[chelseapar]

Mate we are trying to help you and then you say we are wrong??? WTF, like me and blackstars_10 have said you dont get a 2007 NSR but keep thinking that if you like and like weve both said you cant use a CBR250 exhaust because its a four stroke exhaust and your bike is a two stroke(if it is even a nsr250):whistle:.

And if you changing it for the sound coz you want it to sound like a CBR it wont work it never sound like that its a 2 sttoke not a 4stroke IL4.
I rekon just stick with your exhaust or if youve got the money get the tyga exhaust like blackstars_10 said they really good exhausts.

Hello. me sorry. english no good. what WTF mean? i no understand. My paper say 2007 Honda nsr250 mc21 SP. what is this four stroke two stroke? Is this on wheel? why matter if wheel four stroke or two stroke? I change sound becuase motorcylce sound like moped. i wont loud sound as honda cbr1000.

to man Imdying, thank you for recommend. why no udder people understand? Me need find a cbr exhuast now. My frend not have one, just give advice.
thank you. cn you explain to others why cbr exhuasts work for me? they no understand

[del-solider]

Hello. me sorry. english no good. what WTF mean? i no understand. My paper say 2007 Honda nsr250 mc21 SP. what is this four stroke two stroke? Is this on wheel? why matter if wheel four stroke or two stroke? I change sound becuase motorcylce sound like moped. i wont loud sound as honda cbr1000.

to man Imdying, thank you for recommend. why no udder people understand? Me need find a cbr exhuast now. My frend not have one, just give advice.
thank you. cn you explain to others why cbr exhuasts work for me? they no understand

He was being sarcastic, just search on google what a 2 stoke is and what four stroke is and maybe things will become clearer. And one last thing your bike will always sound like moped thats two stroke for you.

[chelseapar]

ok me again question. how me change my nsr to 4 stroke. do i add more cylinder? or change pistono?

[blackstars_10]

hey mate you really need to make your own thread (though it seems you've made this your own). Look, it appears that you don't really like your bike-so get rid of it! You can buy yourself a four stroke as it appears you want one for the sound. And maybe with your level of mechanical knowledge (no offense), you should get rid of the two stroke. They really need to be looked after for them to go well (you treat them well, they treat you well). Im sure you'll find a buyer, though i would recommend second checking what you've got before you go and advertise it. Maybe it would be best if you took it down to you local bike dealer and they can try to help you out.

[blackstars_10]

ooh i apologise... you have made you own thread. Interesting.

[Richard Mc F]

troll 10bloodycharacawotsits

[del-solider]

ooh i apologise... you have made you own thread. Interesting.

After hes taken over myn lol

[chelseapar]

you know if i change pole foot igintion to push iginintion? red light stop bad, very on hill. make sore leg

[puddytat]

If you no careful you get a sore head:bash:

[ukusa]

ok me again question. how me change my nsr to 4 stroke. do i add more cylinder? or change pistono?

rofl this is a funny thread. stumbled on it after chelseapars posts on ACC idea, very funny.:clap:

[phillip]

theres a guy in east tamaki called custom chambers, there good but very expensive $1500+. jsu sell you bike and use ur dads 400