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Maha
3rd March 2009, 17:27
Whats wrong with the 'Biff' during school hours? :bash:
It happened almost weekly when I was at High School..76'-78'.....
If two guys want to slug it out for a few minutes then go for it. It was something to look at after one had consumed ones lunch. Normally, the two who were scrapping would end up being dragged of by a teacher and caned. No harm in that either :spanking:
Though caning does not happen anymore, some other punishment could be found, suspension for a week? :2thumbsup

Blackshear
3rd March 2009, 18:57
Only been in a good scrap once.
Got sick of this guy snatching my salt&vinegar chip filled, marmite sammitches most lunchtimes.
I saw him coming a few seconds before he was in range and with a twirl of the body and an extended fist, WHABAM at the bottom of the lungs, then punched his nose. Course I only got through half of his mates before they hooked into me, but hot dang did the principal let them have it for 'ganging up on one student' :cool:
Shit was worth a saw jaw!

Mom
3rd March 2009, 19:08
I remember the girl fights on the netball courts. They were usually planned and anticipated. Invariably there was hair flying, and fingernail gouging :pinch:

No cane for the naughty girls fighting though, not sure what used to happen to them, think they got a stern telling off or something.
Used to love the boys having a go though. Raw testosterone fuelled by the fact that a cute girl might have been observing made for some really horrible fights <_<

gatch
3rd March 2009, 21:12
Nothing wrong with a bit of biffo, I've gone back to fight school (mma) exactly for this :D

Blackshear
3rd March 2009, 21:17
I remember the girl fights on the netball courts. They were usually planned and anticipated. Invariably there was hair flying, and fingernail gouging :pinch:

No cane for the naughty girls fighting though, not sure what used to happen to them, think they got a stern telling off or something.
Used to love the boys having a go though. Raw testosterone fuelled by the fact that a cute girl might have been observing made for some really horrible fights <_<

Nothing deadlier than a girl fight...
Except trying to break it up :eek5:

Skyryder
3rd March 2009, 21:22
Everyone loves a fight except the loser. Never been a scrapper.

Skyryder

Big Dave
3rd March 2009, 21:29
Whats wrong with the 'Biff' during school hours?


Nothing. It got the neanderthals out of the way while I chatted up their women.

Laava
3rd March 2009, 21:34
Good old scrap
Edit;Oops, I didn't read the content first!

Maha
3rd March 2009, 21:35
Nothing. It got the neanderthals out of the way while I chatted up their women.

That was pretty tough at an all boys school.

GurlRacer
3rd March 2009, 21:38
It's all mental now too. and this txting makes the anticipation so "much better".

Big Dave
3rd March 2009, 21:39
That was pretty tough at an all boys school.

Well actually - so did I - but there was an all girl's school next door.

Angel Vella - now there was a rack.

peasea
3rd March 2009, 21:40
Whats wrong with the 'Biff' during school hours? :bash:
It happened almost weekly when I was a collage..76'-78'.....
If two guys want to slug it out for a few minutes then go for it. It was something to look at after one had consumed ones lunch. Normally, the two who were scrapping would end up being dragged of by a teacher and caned. No harm in that either :spanking:
Though caning does not happen anymore, some other punishment could be found, suspension for a week? :2thumbsup

The prefects who played rugby always won any biffo at the establishment that was my gleaming example of secondary school education. The two main reasons for that are;

1) they were large and fit.

2) they got away with all sorts of shit because they were 1st 15 prefects and

3)they were soon to be policemen

The THREE main reasons.........

jaymzw
3rd March 2009, 22:23
The prefects who played rugby always won any biffo at the establishment that was my gleaming example of secondary school education. The two main reasons for that are;

1) they were large and fit.

2) they got away with all sorts of shit because they were 1st 15 prefects and

3)they were soon to be policemen

The THREE main reasons.........

So basically nothings changed!

Still exactly the same at my all boys school.

The prefects (aka the 1st XV) can do whatever they want.

Although one minute difference may be that at my school if there is a fight often the prefects will be the ones "breaking it up" although that doesn't necessarily mean they aren't handing any punches out themselves. So more often than not having a fight means possibly taking one or two unprotected from the big boys :jerry::no:

peasea
3rd March 2009, 22:33
So basically nothings changed!

Still exactly the same at my all boys school.

The prefects (aka the 1st XV) can do whatever they want.

Although one minute difference may be that at my school if there is a fight often the prefects will be the ones "breaking it up" although that doesn't necessarily mean they aren't handing any punches out themselves. So more often than not having a fight means possibly taking one or two unprotected from the big boys :jerry::no:

Thank you for your observation.
You're right; nothing's changed.

Those guys will end up.....security guards, rugby pro's, cops, bouncers, drug boss minders or Ngai Tahu kindy toilet cleaners. Violence solves nothing, ask the police. They regularly dish out violence with no gain; aks my hamster bro.

scumdog
3rd March 2009, 22:36
Everyone loves a fight except the loser. Never been a scrapper.

Skyryder

Wot 'e sed.

A game for fuckwits.

scumdog
3rd March 2009, 22:38
The prefects who played rugby always won any biffo at the establishment that was my gleaming example of secondary school education. The two main reasons for that are;

1) they were large and fit.

2) they got away with all sorts of shit because they were 1st 15 prefects and

3)they were soon to be policemen

The THREE main reasons.........

Not at Nelson Boys College they didn't get away with it, not when I was there anyway...

peasea
3rd March 2009, 22:57
Not at Nelson Boys College they didn't get away with it, not when I was there anyway...

Lucky you.....

Scene: Young fella.

Catholic boys school.

1970

Skinny boy, not into sports

Impressionable age......

Got bullied

Went into the real world angry and defensive

Interests: V8's, motorcycles, seen as 'trouble' by the law.............

Grasped hobbies, had good mates, saw the light, now has great references.

mdnzz
4th March 2009, 08:39
Lucky you.....

Scene: Young fella.

Catholic boys school.

1970

Skinny boy, not into sports

Impressionable age......

Got bullied

Went into the real world angry and defensive

Interests: V8's, motorcycles, seen as 'trouble' by the law.............

Grasped hobbies, had good mates, saw the light, now has great references.

Hmmm were we at the same school???
Sounds very much like what I went through at school until I stood up to the bully.

MsKABC
4th March 2009, 08:44
when I was a collage..

Was that before or after you were a photomontage? :eek:

I got in a scrap when I was about 10 with this boy, it was a full on fist fight. I think I won, if you can ever really figure out the winner and the loser in a schoolyard fight, that is.

2much
4th March 2009, 08:50
Nuthin wrong with a bit of biffo... lets u know ur alive.

Come to a country where most have grown up up without even witnessing a fight let alone being in one. You'll be amazed with the arrogance and inconsideration... The agressiveness is still there, it just comes out when behind the wheel or standing in a cue... and what do they care, they have no fear, it's not like anyone has the balls to put them on their arse where they belong... God help us if NZ ever follows in these steps.

peasea
4th March 2009, 13:49
Hmmm were we at the same school???
Sounds very much like what I went through at school until I stood up to the bully.


There were two of them and I still recall their faces and their names. They were best buddies and when they got bored they came looking for me. Actually, I might do some research and see if I can locate them; that could be fun......

Maha
4th March 2009, 13:55
Everyone loves a fight except the loser. Never been a scrapper.

Skyryder

I got a twack during a break at school...this dude came up to me and grabbed by the scruff, took be behing the Gym (thought I was going to get arsed fucked) and said '' my girlfriend has dropped me because she likes you''. I told a mate to go get Phil or Grant (two of the bigger lads at school who were freinds of mine) but by the time they arrived it was all over. I had a ringing ear for a while, packed a sad and went home.

peasea
4th March 2009, 13:55
Wot 'e sed.

A game for fuckwits.

Can't help but agree. I went through a stage a few years ago where my temper got the better of me, but looking back I still think those I biffed (not many) desperately deserved it. Still (to quote J.Collins) not a good look tho'.

twotyred
4th March 2009, 14:03
Nuthin wrong with a bit of biffo... lets u know ur alive.

Come to a country where most have grown up up without even witnessing a fight let alone being in one. You'll be amazed with the arrogance and inconsideration... The agressiveness is still there, it just comes out when behind the wheel or standing in a cue... and what do they care, they have no fear, it's not like anyone has the balls to put them on their arse where they belong... God help us if NZ ever follows in these steps.

too late!,far too late...

Oakie
4th March 2009, 14:09
Thrown two punches in my life (both while at school). The result of the first one was that the bully hit me back and left me with three stitches above my eye but he never bullied me again. The result of the second one was a return smack in the head for me and that guy never hassled me again either.

Ahhh, life was so simple then!

Maha
4th March 2009, 14:21
A teacher had a go at me once, Mr Matthews, long story but he sent me outside his class with a table and chair for some reason known only to him. I had a borrowed book (from a mate) cos I left mine in my locker? dunno, anyway, Matthews was looking threw the book and saw a drawing of a penis (this was a maths book) and asked me what it was, I said its a mushroom Sir. Then he saw the words ...'Matthews is a wank' jotted on the back page. Whatever credance I had at that point, had now gone. He lifted me out of the seat and asked'' what would you do if I hit ya''?
I said ''I would probably go home soon after''...with a closed fist, he hit the locker that I was leaning on right beside my head, I pushed him out of the way and fucked off.
The next day, in the principles office, He denied the event ever took place, but I was shifted out of his class and put in a class by myself, yes there were no other puplis but me, that last a day or two, then I stopped going, I wagged that period, god school was great!!!

HenryDorsetCase
4th March 2009, 14:31
that thing about watching fights on youtube or whatever: you can see why there arent often people hurt. They participants have NO IDEA: just random flailings and rolling round on the ground. they might as well be having the secks.

Seeing two people who know what they're doing is a whole other thing. (secks or fiighting...)

HenryDorsetCase
4th March 2009, 14:32
A teacher had a go at me once, Mr Matthews, long story but he sent me outside his class with a table and chair for some reason known only to him. I had a borrowed book (from a mate) cos I left mine in my locker? dunno, anyway, Matthews was looking threw the book and saw a drawing of a penis (this was a maths book) and asked me what it was, I said its a mushroom Sir. Then he saw the words ...'Matthews is a wank' jotted on the back page. Whatever credance I had at that point, had now gone. He lifted me out of the seat and asked'' what would you do if I hit ya''?
I said ''I would probably go home soon after''...with a closed fist, he hit the locker that I was leaning on right beside my head, I pushed him out of the way and fucked off.
The next day, in the principles office, He denied the event ever took place, but I was shifted out of his class and put in a class by myself, yes there were no other puplis but me, that last a day or two, then I stopped going, I wagged that period, god school was great!!!

you should have stabbed him

Maha
4th March 2009, 14:34
you should have stabbed him

All I had was a Biro...green ink, he didnt like that either....:baby:

Colapop
4th March 2009, 14:35
I was only ever in one fight at school, the rest of them were just hidings. I was bullied unmercifully at school. I had the shit kicked out of me at school then I'd go home and get a hiding from the old man for getting into trouble at school. Yep it did all build up to the point where I put a 3rd form guy in hospital (I was 6th form.) Not proud of that. I have been in a few scraps since then (I was an angry young man) but I'm happy now and don't have to prove nothing to nobody.

Apparently I'm a fairly big guy now (big Dave is bigger as are a few others) and I apparently intimidate people by my size - 6'4" & 115kgs.I'm accused of being a thug and a bully which is based solely on visual perception of me. I don't do it on purpose or intentionally bully people but I'm accused of it all the time. Yes, I do fiercely protect people I care about but I don't instigate things.

Fighting is something that you should do only if there is no other option. What did Kenny Rogers sing? "Sometimes you have to fight to be a man" on the other hand an old saying is "The best fights I've won, were by 100 metres or more"

Maha
4th March 2009, 14:42
I was only ever in one fight at school, the rest of them were just hidings. I was bullied unmercifully at school. I had the shit kicked out of me at school then I'd go home and get a hiding from the old man for getting into trouble at school. Yep it did all build up to the point where I put a 3rd form guy in hospital (I was 6th form.) Not proud of that. I have been in a few scraps since then (I was an angry young man) but I'm happy now and don't have to prove nothing to nobody.

Apparently I'm a fairly big guy now (big Dave is bigger as are a few others) and I apparently intimidate people by my size - 6'4" & 115kgs.I'm accused of being a thug and a bully which is based solely on visual perception of me. I don't do it on purpose or intentionally bully people but I'm accused of it all the time. Yes, I do fiercely protect people I care about but I don't instigate things.

Fighting is something that you should do only if there is no other option. What did Kenny Rogers sing? "Sometimes you have to fight to be a man" on the other hand an old saying is "The best fights I've won, were by 100 metres or more"


I should have use that 100 metre thing years ago. Walking to a Night club in Hamilton (Lady H i think?) I saw a guy beating a female down an allyway, I called out to my mates and when I turned around I was met by this size 9 fist right on the snout, a fight got underway soon after banging up against glass windows and parked cars..then the bouncers got involved..yeah I should have left well alone.

Tank
4th March 2009, 14:53
I used to be picked on at school - a lot. I was given the high school biff many, many, many times and can pretty much remember winning none of them - which was of course why they fought me - because people never pick fights with someone they think is going to beat them.

Its not a fight - its bullying.

Left school - trained (a lot) and got pretty good at it. Worked as doorman for several years in a fairly rough public bar requiring the occasional smack on an almost nightly basis. Fought competitively - did OK and won more than I lost.

Went back to my hometown and the same guys who used to pick on me at school did the same thing as grown men (well in their 20's). I wrapped a pool cue around one of their heads - I knew it was dangerous - but I didnt care - all the rage from high school came flooding back - and one poor fucker ended up paying for it.

Another incident and I ended up hurting the guy badly - I thought I had killed him (he hit his head when unconscious). Was my 3rd assault charge. Was very lucky to keep out of jail.

Moral of the story:

1 - Being picked on at school can affect you later in life.
2 - Even if you win the fight you can lose in the end.

The last fight (where the guy hit his head) was the last one I ever had. I left the country and started a new life (and focused on getting a career).

I go a long way to avoid fights at all cost now. Fighting is for chumps. You cannot win, only lose.

Whenever you get in a fight there is always a chance of a loss of life (like when the guy hits his head) - is it really worth the chance of being killed (or killing someone)?

For me - nope. Its always better to walk away.

MsKABC
4th March 2009, 14:58
Another incident and I ended up hurting the guy badly - I thought I had killed him (he hit his head when unconscious). Was my 3rd assault charge. Was very lucky to keep out of jail.


I know someone very much like that. He used to work as a bouncer at pubs. One night a "patron" turned on him with a bottle or a knife or somesuch, and he ended up in hospital for his trouble. My friend ended up on an assault charge, and it was made worse for him because he was an amateur heavyweight boxer, so his fists were that much more dangerous than the average joe's. :(

Big Dave
4th March 2009, 15:22
The best thing to do if someone is intimidated is bitch slap them.
Positive reinforcement is good.

Tank
4th March 2009, 15:29
The best thing to do if someone is intimidated is bitch slap them.
Positive reinforcement is good.

Now that was funny.

mdnzz
4th March 2009, 15:33
The best thing to do if someone is intimidated is bitch slap them.
Positive reinforcement is good.


I know a ex-bouncer that bitch slapped a punter one night, ended up on an assualt charge. Apparently he broke the guys jaw in four places all from a open handed slap.

Video evidence backed up the bouncer, showed him slapping the guy after being abused pushed and swung at.
His defence was look at the size of me compared to him, if you think I hit him with a closed fist do you think he'd be here today giving evidence.
Admittedly he is 6'4"ish and 120+kgs, ex military, hand to hand combat trained, other guy was 5'nothing and about 60kgs.


I agree with Tank though 100%, being bullied is not getting into a fight, and bullying is not always physical.

HenryDorsetCase
4th March 2009, 16:06
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His defence was look at the size of me compared to him, if you think I hit him with a closed fist do you think he'd be here today giving evidence.
Admittedly he is 6'4"ish and 120+kgs, ex military, hand to hand combat trained, other guy was 5'nothing and about 60kgs.


If I'd have had my stepladder that night it would have all been a different story, you betcha!

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5th March 2009, 13:19
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Maha
5th March 2009, 14:39
Close Combat Training (CCT)


CCT is a bit OTT, Im talking, get a couple of cheap shots in and then run like hell.

Big Dave
5th March 2009, 14:49
CCT is a bit OTT, Im talking, get a couple of cheap shots in and then run like hell.


A Smith & Wesson beats 4 Aces.

Maha
5th March 2009, 14:55
A Smith & Wesson beats 4 Aces.

Quite right Sundance!!!

Big Dave
5th March 2009, 15:25
Somebody say 1,2,3, go.

Big Dave
5th March 2009, 15:30
Ahh - it's there

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HenryDorsetCase
5th March 2009, 16:09
I am buying this DVD tonight!

Thank you Flatnose, its sustained me in my time of trouble

ducatilover
5th March 2009, 19:32
There's nothing wrong with a good punch up. Problem is I am too small

McJim
5th March 2009, 19:53
I must confess I avoided fights at all costs. It was a lose lose situation at school back in Glasgow. If you lost the winner would jump on your head until you were unconcious (or worse) and if you won then it was only a matter of time before the loser's mates got you on your own and gave you a good stabbing to remember them by.

Bottles in the face and similar revenge was not unusual either.

I have learnt that if someone picks a fight you either run or you put them down so badly that they can't identify you. I prefer to take the first option.

Brian d marge
6th March 2009, 02:46
pfffff

Chuck norris ,m, ..gay

what you need it the

BATMAN

Stephen

ps ..listen to MC Jim ... some places are /were a lot worse than NZ will ever be ...you DONT want to go down that path .....