Rebuilds

[Boosted]

Anyone keen to do the topend of ma 250f? really needs to be done lol... really keen to learn how 2 do it... have my own workshop... few tools

Thanks
Adam

[LittleJohn]

Anyone keen to do the topend of ma 250f? really needs to be done lol... really keen to learn how 2 do it... have my own workshop... few tools

Thanks
Adam

Where abouts on the shore are you. Would be happy to assit, am near Hauraki Corner.

[Boosted]

oh awesome! im just in albany industrial ill have to get piston, rings and gaskets eh?

[REDRIDER]

I know of a few guys that ride 2t and 4t who would all be interested in learning how to do their own top ends but need to be shown. Almost need a workshop day..."boosted" i found an old 426 manual today if your ever decide to get her running..

[telliman]

Anyone keen to do the topend of ma 250f? really needs to be done lol... really keen to learn how 2 do it... have my own workshop... few tools

Thanks
Adam

north shore sausage party!

[Boosted]

hahahaha your a dick telliman, and if thats cool with LittleJohn to show us how its done :)

[LittleJohn]

hahahaha your a dick telliman, and if thats cool with LittleJohn to show us how its done :)

I can show you guys the basics, for more bike specific settings you need a manual or to visit a dealer to get hold of the specifications. Basically most 2 strokes are the same and most 4 strokes are the same. Once you have done a bit with one you can cross reference that to others...


No promises though....

[barty5]

gets piss easy after doin it for the last 15 plus years

[tnarg]

I would be keen to learn. Let us know if you put together a group.

[LittleJohn]

gets piss easy after doin it for the last 15 plus years

Maybe you and me could arrange some workshops on the shore somewhere, go through some of the basics: Top ends, grease and bearing changes, fork oil check and change etc...

Could do with more than one persons opinions (spelling) and I may be able to pick up some more as I'm self taught myself.

[barty5]

Maybe you and me could arrange some workshops on the shore somewhere, go through some of the basics: Top ends, grease and bearing changes, fork oil check and change etc...

Could do with more than one persons opinions (spelling) and I may be able to pick up some more as I'm self taught myself.

could do self taught myself as well just got sick of paying shop mostly after payin for a full rebuild on an old xr200 that blew up 3 weeks later cause they didnt do the bottom end.
I have a full work shop in newmarket with proper bike hoist and a smaller mobile one as well.

[tnarg]

Im sure peole would be keen to pay for your time, so if you got a small goup together and we learn while you do Boosted's bike it could work out well.

[LittleJohn]

could do self taught myself as well just got sick of paying shop mostly after payin for a full rebuild on an old xr200 that blew up 3 weeks later cause they didnt do the bottom end.
I have a full work shop in newmarket with proper bike hoist and a smaller mobile one as well.

Yeah, mine started from a rebuild of my KX125. Am also just rebuilding an old xr200 at the moment. Love the idea of a hoist, keep telling the missus I need one........

If you are keen maybe we organise a evening once boosted gets his parts.

[barty5]

Yeah, mine started from a rebuild of my KX125. Am also just rebuilding an old xr200 at the moment. Love the idea of a hoist, keep telling the missus I need one........

If you are keen maybe we organise a evening once boosted gets his parts.

yeh sounds good im here most night late workin on ute im going to $$ up the parts for him latter on today have a few accounts around the place in can use for aftermarket parts.

[LittleJohn]

yeh sounds good im here most night late workin on ute im going to $$ up the parts for him latter on today have a few accounts around the place in can use for aftermarket parts.

sweet, let me know once you have parts sorted, then we can sort a date and time.

[REDRIDER]

sweet, let me know once you have parts sorted, then we can sort a date and time.

If it turns to a group thing (where and when) Id be keen to have my top end done 250 2T, I dont mind doing it just need to be shown how... happy to pay for your time...

[Hemex]

Heck yeah... I'd be keen to come and learn too... I've already asked bart to teach me and if this goes through it'll be really helpful!!

+1 for Redriders comment on paying for time..

[barty5]

If it turns to a group thing (where and when) Id be keen to have my top end done 250 2T, I dont mind doing it just need to be shown how... happy to pay for your time...

sweet as sure something can be worked out. could be a long night pizza and borbon will be compulory. Thinking a friday night that way if it dosnt all get done for what ever reaon there is saturday morning to finish and would make to mush bother on how late it went on.

[Hemex]

sweet as sure something can be worked out. could be a long night pizza and borbon will be compulory. Thinking a friday night that way if it dosnt all get done for what ever reaon there is saturday morning to finish and would make to mush bother on how late it went on.

Genius! This whole thing is just what I need mate... been stressing about how i'd do any work on my bike without breaking many things.. :laugh:.

[Reckless]

Might pop along for the bourbon an chips!! I quite like them mixed in with a bit of boys night bullshit!!

[LittleJohn]

sweet as sure something can be worked out. could be a long night pizza and borbon will be compulory. Thinking a friday night that way if it dosnt all get done for what ever reaon there is saturday morning to finish and would make to mush bother on how late it went on.

Sounds good to me, can work something tadem if wanted to do both bikes in one night... Not so much of doing both at once, but could at least set up one while instructing the other (like doing the water and stripping the tanks etc).

Can't do this Friday though....

[barty5]

Sounds good to me, can work something tadem if wanted to do both bikes in one night... Not so much of doing both at once, but could at least set up one while instructing the other (like doing the water and stripping the tanks etc).

Can't do this Friday though....


me neither thinking next week maybe.

[honda_power]

id be keen as as well, need to learn, my crfs overdue

[Boosted]

well littlejohn you can use my bike to use on :) im gonna sort out a kit from barty :)

[REDRIDER]

well littlejohn you can use my bike to use on :) im gonna sort out a kit from barty :)

maybe a new top end will speed you up through the trees boy...LOL

[krad_nz]

I'd be keen for both 4 stroke & 2 stroke sessions. :)

[flyingcr250]

maybe a new top end will speed you up through the trees boy...LOL

ha ha ha,
i do my own rebuilds its a piece of piss for 2t's. nothing hugely scientific about it.

[REDRIDER]

ha ha ha,
i do my own rebuilds its a piece of piss for 2t's. nothing hugely scientific about it.

yeah I understand its not rocket science, but with this sort of thing I always end up with bits left over then wonder.... was this extra piece really necessary...doh. Will be good to learn for next time anyways..

[flyingcr250]

yeah I understand its not rocket science, but with this sort of thing I always end up with bits left over then wonder.... was this extra piece really necessary...doh. Will be good to learn for next time anyways..

yea it just sux when you do something silly like drop a circlip down inside the gearbox. :shit::shutup::shit:

[barty5]

yea it just sux when you do something silly like drop a circlip down inside the gearbox. :shit::shutup::shit:

been there done that i like the ones that fly out as you put them in them you spend the next 1/2 hr lookin for it turns up right in front of ah face.:doh:

Well if little johns up to it next friday is cool with me shops in newmarket under the motor way (the old power board buildings) wheere normally open til 6 but more than welcome to turn up earlier if you want.

[honda_power]

yeah I understand its not rocket science, but with this sort of thing I always end up with bits left over then wonder.... was this extra piece really necessary...doh. Will be good to learn for next time anyways..

yeap. thats sounds like me. allways end up with a few extra washers or gaskets... makes my bike lighter :stupid:

[barty5]

Ps just so you guys know those $$ dont include the base or head gaskets ill see what i can do re those use to deal with motoworld for lota that stuff at good rates have to see what others can do.

[flyingcr250]

been there done that i like the ones that fly out as you put them in them you spend the next 1/2 hr lookin for it turns up right in front of ah face.:doh:

Well if little johns up to it next friday is cool with me shops in newmarket under the motor way (the old power board buildings) wheere normally open til 6 but more than welcome to turn up earlier if you want.

ha ha ha......PING......were the f**k did that go?? lol :clap::baby:

[REDRIDER]

Ps just so you guys know those $$ dont include the base or head gaskets ill see what i can do re those use to deal with motoworld for lota that stuff at good rates have to see what others can do.

no worries barty, boosted is loaded he'll take care of it...:bleh:

[LittleJohn]

Well if little johns up to it next friday is cool with me shops in newmarket under the motor way (the old power board buildings) wheere normally open til 6 but more than welcome to turn up earlier if you want.

Ok pencilled in for next Friday. I'm sure we can work something out about how to run it and show them something interesting.....

[LittleJohn]

no worries barty, boosted is loaded he'll take care of it...:bleh:

In that case...... $$$$$$$$$$$ chi ching

[Boosted]

haha what a dreamer, didnt you just buy a new rodeo mr bling bling? hahaha

[B0000M]

theres some good instructional videos on youtube if anyones interested. cant remember the name of the crowd that made them but theres plenty

[Rupe]

can we get strippers?

[courts]

Im keen as to learn as will need to do one eventually too. have done 2t rebuilds, is 4t a bit trickier??????

[REDRIDER]

Well if little johns up to it next friday is cool with me shops in newmarket under the motor way (the old power board buildings) wheere normally open til 6 but more than welcome to turn up earlier if you want.

yeah mate next friday sounds good to me, cheers

[telliman]

who's bringing the bread?

[cheese]

might show my face. I'll bring some low octane fuel.....

[barty5]

can we get strippers?

you payin?? can if it helps

[Reckless]

can we get strippers?


you payin?? can if it helps

I'll bring the Ktm then! Strippers always look better on an orange an black bike!! aye Barty!! LOL!! :spanking: :nono: :jerry:

[barty5]

might show my face. I'll bring some low octane fuel.....

hahaha they need to be able to run afterwards.

[barty5]

I'll bring the Ktm then! Strippers always look better on an orange an black bike!! aye Barty!! LOL!! :spanking: :nono: :jerry:


girls dont look so bad next to a yami either.
As for the other one need i say anymore no wonder some of the guys get a bad start eyes arnt on the track.

[barty5]

link on where we are

http://maps.aa.co.nz/search/bounds+1125072+5244528+3934928+6735472/all/13+mahuru+st

[LittleJohn]

Im keen as to learn as will need to do one eventually too. have done 2t rebuilds, is 4t a bit trickier??????

Not to much different, just have to deal with the timing........

[LittleJohn]

As for the other one need i say anymore no wonder some of the guys get a bad start eyes arnt on the track.

I have never seen her at any of my boys races.....

[Hemex]

Next friday sounds good... Thanks guys..

[tnarg]

Hopefully I wont be working and will be able to make it.

[oldskool]

I just wanna say a big thumbs up THANKYOU to LITTLEJOHN for fixing my XR200. He split the gearbox, replaced the 3 broken gears then rebuilt the whole engine... and all for the love of it! THANKS MATE!!! :first::clap::banana::hug:

[Hemex]

link on where we are

http://maps.aa.co.nz/search/bounds+1125072+5244528+3934928+6735472/all/13+mahuru+st

Did you have a look at those links I sent you for the 03' CR250 and the 07' YZ250F manuals? Were they right?

[barty5]

Did you have a look at those links I sent you for the 03' CR250 and the 07' YZ250F manuals ?? Were they right?

will check out later unless these guys have the manuals for there bike would be helpfull for the torque settings.

[cheese]

Did you have a look at those links I sent you for the 03' CR250 and the 07' YZ250F manuals? Were they right?

CAn you give me that link for the CR too mate?

[Hemex]

CAn you give me that link for the CR too mate?

Hey mate... here you go...one is for a CR 250R (the last link)...I'm not sure if its the same as a CR250?
Need to register for the 1st link... takes a minute...make sure you download all the split files and then unzip the first one..

http://forums.everything2stroke.com/manuals/429-2002-2003-cr250.html

http://downloads.hondatech.info/Moto/CR/Honda%20CR250R%20Service%20Manual%20by%20Aponwao.p df

http://www.mxguy.com/motorcycle-maintenance/2002-2003-honda-cr250r-service-manual_01-17-2008/

[REDRIDER]

cheers boys, ill download the 03 CR one and bring a copy along for reference.

[LittleJohn]

Has everyone got all the parts they need to do the rebuilds???? Are we still on for Friday night???

[courts]

My bike doesnt need a rebuild just yet but was keen to glean information if someone else was doing a rebuild on their bike...

[SpikedPunch]

Could someone please make a definitive post on what the haps is for the uninformed?:) (such as myself!)
Also while we're talking manuals if anyone has one for an '05 rm/kx 100 it'd be much appreciated, haven't found much on the net myself, probably looking in the wrong places :doh:

[oldskool]

Could someone please make a definitive post on what the haps is for the uninformed?:) (such as myself!)
Also while we're talking manuals if anyone has one for an '05 rm/kx 100 it'd be much appreciated, haven't found much on the net myself, probably looking in the wrong places :doh:
oooh someones upgraded their bike! What is a rm/kx 100 ?

[SpikedPunch]

oooh someones upgraded their bike! What is a rm/kx 100 ?

rm100 or kx100 :) They're the same bike in different colours so either manual would be good.
New bike is super duper btw :banana:

[oldskool]

rm100 or kx100 :) They're the same bike in different colours so either manual would be good.
New bike is super duper btw :banana:
Pretty sure our resident 'manual' pimp will come up with the goods for yah shortly...ay Hemi!
Look forward tah riding with yah on the track with yah new bike. Going to Tussock Buster?

[LittleJohn]

rm100 or kx100 :) They're the same bike in different colours so either manual would be good.
New bike is super duper btw :banana:

Think you will have to get a KX85/KX100 manual as they are a Kawasaki bike that has been rebadge under Suzuki from some deal the 2 companies done.

The bad news is that according to Clymer and Haynes websites they haven't done a manual for them yet (up to 2003 model). You can however get a workshop manual, like what the dealers have. Not that helpfull with step by step, but does have specific specifications in them. Haynes and Clymer don't do a lot of Suzuki (esp RM) manuals for some reason, we had to get a workshop one for my sisters RM80.

[LittleJohn]

rm100 or kx100 :) They're the same bike in different colours so either manual would be good.
New bike is super duper btw :banana:

After doing some more reading have found out that there is very little difference between the 85 and the 100, so if you cannot get hold of a 100 manual try a 85. Also supposably the only differences from the 03 model to the 07 is the graphics, so you may get away with the haynes or clymer KX100 manuals... Can buy these from manuals.co.nz - http://www.manuals.co.nz/?CLSN_728=1237243932728bd8682806554dc42b8a&keyword=KX100&searchby=title&page=shop%2Fbrowse&fsb=1 or alternatively places like cycletreads can also get them in.

If you want a RM one then you would probably only get a workshop manual, think manuals.co.nz does them as well.

[Hemex]

Pretty sure our resident 'manual' pimp will come up with the goods for yah shortly...ay Hemi!


:gob: pimp??..:laugh:

[Hemex]

Also while we're talking manuals if anyone has one for an '05 rm/kx 100 it'd be much appreciated, haven't found much on the net myself, probably looking in the wrong places :doh:

Got a KX 85/KX 100 Manual - '01 to '07...or so it says.. :shifty:

Hard one to find..You owe me!! :niceone:


Pretty sure our resident 'manual' pimp will come up with the goods for yah shortly...ay Hemi!


Appreciate the faith in my abilities... :lol:

Those braille edition Penthouse and Playboys you wanted are on their way mate.. :lol:

[oldskool]

Got a KX 85/KX 100 Manual - '01 to '07...or so it says.. :shifty:

Hard one to find..You owe me!! :niceone:



Appreciate the faith in my abilities... :lol:



Well don't know about faith in your pimping abilities but you still haven't found me a KX125 '00 manual yet! :zzzz:

[Hemex]

Well don't know about faith in your pimping abilities but you still haven't found me a KX125 '00 manual yet! :zzzz:

Never knew you needed one mate!!
I will have a look... Will be sometime tomorrow though.. Out i go for the :apint:..:clap:

[barty5]

Well don't know about faith in your pimping abilities but you still haven't found me a KX125 '00 manual yet! :zzzz:
think oi found one the other day ill check the downloads latter

[barty5]

Never knew you needed one mate!!
I will have a look... Will be sometime tomorrow though.. Out i go for the :apint:..:clap: shit the little man havin the beer came up so slow thought you ment you where going out to get a dose of the clap hahaha

[oldskool]

think oi found one the other day ill check the downloads latter
You sent me a link to a part of one and I had to pay if I wanted to read the rest of it.

[oldskool]

shit the little man havin the beer came up so slow thought you ment you where going out to get a dose of the clap hahaha
well you read it better than me, I thought he was off to tend to a glory hole! :bleh:

[Boosted]

yeh think barty has ordered the parts for our bikes we are on for this friday, 6pm, i'll be there about 6.30... Big thanks for Littlejohn and barty for this... its going to be awesome, think we'll get some pizzas n beer etc

[barty5]

well ive got the piston kits just go to pick up gasket set on way home tomorrow. was thinking of takin in the bbq instead of pizzas up to you guys the butcher is just over the road next to the bottle shop so just as easy me thinks.

[Hemex]

shit the little man havin the beer came up so slow thought you ment you where going out to get a dose of the clap hahaha


well you read it better than me, I thought he was off to tend to a glory hole! :bleh:

hahahaaaa... sick puppies!!

[REDRIDER]

hey guys, Ill probably follow boosted in, barty's sorting the parts so will be there 6.30 friday. best I clean my bike LOL.

[Boosted]

yeh bbq would be pretty awesome :) but shotgun not cooking :) ahaha

[barty5]

yeh bbq would be pretty awesome :) but shotgun not cooking :) ahaha

that ill count rupe out as well 1 vote for cheese

[REDRIDER]

that ill count rupe out as well 1 vote for cheese

second that..

[cheese]

oooh na, you really don't want me to burn all your food aye........

[barty5]

oooh na, you really don't want me to burn all your food aye........

it will be better that rupe for sure lol

[REDRIDER]

it will be better that rupe for sure lol

so who's bringing what, Ill can do bread onions and sauce, how bout boosted grabbing a couple of sausages, haha "plenty of practice there"..lol

[tnarg]

Bugger wont be able to make it now. Gotta work friday night. :angry:

[B0000M]

cheese is more of a baker and less of a bbq chef. get him to bring a cake though, he makes a good cake

[cheese]

LOL Aaron was asking me to bring a Pav.

No time to bake at the moment. So fucking busy!

[LittleJohn]

Any chance someone heading over from the shore can give me a ride..... Missus needs to pack up the car for sandpit on Sat morning.

[Reckless]

..... Missus needs to pack up the car for sandpit on Sat morning.

:Oi:Your missus packs all your MX stuff and you just get in and go!!! :clap:
Far out! if you ever divorce her let me know will ya!!!!!! :Pokey:

BTW see ya all on Friday! I can teach the 2 stroke stuff if you guys wanna get two bikes going at once?

[LittleJohn]

[QUOTE=Reckless;1986124]:Oi:Your missus packs all your MX stuff and you just get in and go!!! :clap:
QUOTE]

I wish, she just sorts hers and the kids stuff. I will do all my stuff when I get home from work........

[oldskool]

:Oi:Your missus packs all your MX stuff and you just get in and go!!! :clap:


I wish, she just sorts hers and the kids stuff. I will do all my stuff when I get home from work........

:lol: nice come back, you know your good lady reads these posts !! :Pokey:

[Hemex]

Any chance someone heading over from the shore can give me a ride..... Missus needs to pack up the car for sandpit on Sat morning.

Yeah no worries mate... Oldskool, you coming too?

Should be a few of us from the Shore... RedRider...Cheese...Rupe...barty

[barty5]

Yeah no worries mate... Oldskool, you coming too?

Should be a few of us from the Shore... RedRider...Cheese...Rupe...barty

nah thought i might give it a miss just leave yah the keys doh :bash:

[LittleJohn]

:lol: nice come back, you know your good lady reads these posts !! :Pokey:

I know, have already had a txt from her........

[Hemex]

nah thought i might give it a miss just leave yah the keys doh :bash:

hahaaa... Bourbon, strippers, pizza's, bikes, workshop, grease, tools... I don't think you're going to miss it!! :yes:

[REDRIDER]

Any chance someone heading over from the shore can give me a ride..... Missus needs to pack up the car for sandpit on Sat morning.

can help with transport from/to the shore if ya need it..

[LittleJohn]

can help with transport from/to the shore if ya need it..

Cheers, will let you know if I need one but may be sorted.

[barty5]

for those ewho arnt sure where we are located its
13 Mahuru st
Newmarket
behind the caltex on broadway
feel free to turn up ant time from 5ish onwards ( i maybe finishing of last vehicles) but thats cool
any hasles finding us 5245571
map attached

[REDRIDER]

cool mate, is the bbq a happening thing??

[barty5]

cool mate, is the bbq a happening thing??

yup repco is givin us their bbq butcher is over the road

[REDRIDER]

gotta say thanks a big thanks to the guys for helping/doing my topend, special mention to reckless,barty,littlejohn and hemi for the bbq. nice to meet you all hopefully will repay the favour in the future.... well done to sammikins for doing more work on boosted's bike than he did...lol

[Boosted]

haha yeh thanks guys, was a awesome night :) and thanks barty and sammi for the work on the bike :) haha

[Sammikins]

Well the poor bike wasn't gonna put itself back together.... :msn-wink:

[Boosted]

haha it went in the end :) seen you just buggered off :P lol gonna come up to dome valley 2day?

[krasher]

Cheers guys - and gals, good to meet ya.

Thanks for the help with parts and my forks. Good to finally find that missing spacer and get some grease on that wheel. :Punk:

Oh yeah, and see you up at the dome! Hope it doesn't rain!

[Sammikins]

haha it went in the end :) seen you just buggered off :P lol gonna come up to dome valley 2day?

Nah, really should service my bike. and stil waiting for reckless to teach me some more mad skills. :niceone:

[Boosted]

hehe cool :)

and sammi, barty, littlejohn and reckless and whoeva helped with the bike bike runs like a dream... can't belive how it performed :)

So big thanks :)

[telliman]

hehe cool :)

and sammi, barty, littlejohn and reckless and whoeva helped with the bike bike runs like a dream... can't belive how it performed :)

So big thanks :)

sounds romantic!!

[Boosted]

it was a very romantic night, you missed out :P

[barty5]

Heres some pics of boosted NOT working on his bike.

[cheese]

LOL looks like I missed out on a fun night.

Hey Sammie, you should change your Avatar to one of those pics of you working on bikes! lol!

[telliman]

Heres some pics of boosted NOT working on his bike.

haha, is that your bike adam?
goodboy!

[barty5]

haha, is that your bike adam?
goodboy!

yeh that was his was a really good night mite have to do again next time some people need some work done. Even managed to get the PW50 out at about 11pm for a blat round the newmarket streets adam failed to bring back or find any girl on the streets dont know how cool he would have looked pulling up along side them on the 50 though. Will have to take the LT50 in next time as well midnight street racin.

[Boosted]

hahaha yeh she was a huge help ;) and yeh no chicks on the street, if i found some i bet i could get them on the back hahaha

[SpikedPunch]

Thanks guys, it was informative and entertaining. Thanks Barty for having us, LJ and and Reckless for explaining all the ins and outs to us, and Hemi for cooking a mean veggie sausage. I even got to bore my girlfriends to death the next day telling them all about what I'd learned, it was great. :2thumbsup
Redrider I hope you've cleaned your filter by now! ;)

[Hemex]

Thanks guys, it was informative and entertaining. Thanks Barty for having us, LJ and and Reckless for explaining all the ins and outs to us, and Hemi for cooking a mean veggie sausage. I even got to bore my girlfriends to death the next day telling them all about what I'd learned, it was great. :2thumbsup
Redrider I hope you've cleaned your filter by now! ;)

Yah was an awesome night and glad everyone enjoyed my bbq'ing skills :laugh:

Must be done again sometime... next time I should try to squeeze in some learning while bbq'ing..:lol:
Redrider, Boosted, let me know when you guys are headed out to Dome Valley again...

[krad_nz]

Yeah, cheers guys.

I have photos of said filter... Name and shame, name and shame :jerry:

[Reckless]

Heres some pics of boosted NOT working on his bike.

Don't you just love a girl thats not scared to get her hands dirty!!!



I have photos of said filter... Name and shame, name and shame :jerry:

Haha It was cleaned on the night! I wouldn't have let that shiney new piston suck air through that!! Hope it went ok he was riding next day I think???

[telliman]

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz:laugh:

[Boosted]

hahaha ur such a werido telliman hahahaha

[Buddy L]

Typical Adam not working on his bike, Hopefully it will be up to the power standards of mine now.
Can't remember the last time you had a tool in your hand kid-O
Might have been the time you pulled your 426 apart, and almost thought about putting it back together. :)

[REDRIDER]

Haha It was cleaned on the night! I wouldn't have let that shiney new piston suck air through that!! Hope it went ok he was riding next day I think???

Hey Reckless, yeah mate all went well at Dome Valley, gave it a good running in probably more than I needed to. Came into a corner a little later and heard a chug chug then she died, all the worst scenario's went through my head but in my haste to get out there had not refuelled:doh:
Thanks again for ya help and knowledge... OH and I bought 2 new airfilters saturday morning no need to ever have a dirty filter ever again.:oi-grr:

[Reckless]

Hey Reckless, Thanks again for ya help

Thats cool mate was just interested to see how she went?

[Boosted]

Typical Adam not working on his bike, Hopefully it will be up to the power standards of mine now.
Can't remember the last time you had a tool in your hand kid-O
Might have been the time you pulled your 426 apart, and almost thought about putting it back together. :)

lol i have done alot of work on my bike thank you :P your just never around anymore to see it!!

also i didnt pull that beast apart motoworld did just can't be bothered fixing it :P

maybe you should come out riding more to see?

[barty5]

ok so who' s tape meassure do i have leeft in workshop??

[B0000M]

ok so who' s tape meassure do i have leeft in workshop??

mine if its nobdy elses........

[barty5]

And just in case anybody was wondering the rebuilds if it hadnt been for the oil rings not wanting to seat properly and a smalll timing issue it is possible to rebuild a 4s quicker than it took to do the 2s. In fact even with the hold up it was very close.

[Sammikins]

LOL at the foto's!!!! :sweatdrop

[krasher]

ok so who' s tape meassure do i have leeft in workshop??
Oh yeah, that is mine too. Wups. :mellow:
Leave it with the stand and I'll pick her up tomorrow morn. Cheers :)

[barty5]

Oh yeah, that is mine too. Wups. :mellow:
Leave it with the stand and I'll pick her up tomorrow morn. Cheers :)

sweet as steve thought it was yours he just dropped his car off for wof.

[Hemex]

sweet as steve thought it was yours he just dropped his car off for wof.

Steve is my dragon boating coach... he's a fuckin tyrant...:laugh:...Super coach though...

Sending you the logo now bud..

[Reckless]

And just in case anybody was wondering the rebuilds if it hadnt been for the oil rings not wanting to seat properly and a smalll timing issue it is possible to rebuild a 4s quicker than it took to do the 2s. In fact even with the hold up it was very close.

Haha yeh Right! Don't forget to minus the huge amount of time me an LittleJohn spent explaining how they worked (cum on Krad back me up here), what we where doing, for redrider to have several fags and teaching/getting the owner to do it himself rather than me ripping in and doing it for him. :lol: :girlfight:

Ahem!! what was that about timing? don't have that problem on a 2t and oil ring problem not on a 2t my friend!! Your point was???

Shit hope I don't upset you to much I want some parts soon :hug:

[barty5]

Haha yeh Right! Don't forget to minus the huge amount of time me an LittleJohn spent explaining how they worked (cum on Krad back me up here), what we where doing, for redrider to have several fags and teaching/getting the owner to do it himself rather than me ripping in and doing it for him. :lol: :girlfight:

Ahem!! what was that about timing? don't have that problem on a 2t and oil ring problem not on a 2t my friend!! Your point was???

Shit hope I don't upset you to much I want some parts soon :hug:

thought i would get a reaction lol sweet as just let us know re parts

[Reckless]

thought i would get a reaction lol sweet as just let us know re parts

Haha Ya bugger! Got me! :clap:
Just checked to see what sort of reply I'd would've got!! :rolleyes:

Good you got some work from my mate steve.

[REDRIDER]

didnt the 2T fire with one kick......lol

[Sammikins]

didnt the 2T fire with one kick......lol

T'was a freak accident.

[barty5]

didnt the 2T fire with one kick......lol

yeh i did ill put it down to luck hahaha Adams bedly worn out plug wasnt any help with his. We'll have to get another couple a bikes together and have another build off. Rupes got the 4s or could use mine its kinda due and i do have 2 spares kits (enough for 4 rebuilds) just need a 2t.

[LittleJohn]

yeh i did ill put it down to luck hahaha Adams bedly worn out plug wasnt any help with his. We'll have to get another couple a bikes together and have another build off. Rupes got the 4s or could use mine its kinda due and i do have 2 spares kits (enough for 4 rebuilds) just need a 2t.

Give me about 25 more hours and mine will be ready.........

[Sammikins]

i still havent done my ten hour service.... :niceone:

[barty5]

i still havent done my ten hour service.... :niceone:

Thats a easy one . Could we also blame the amount of piss drunk for slowing us down. I know i was real slow yesterday after drinking most of saturday while fishin after 4 days on it was gettin to be a bit much had crash on couch watchin tv when Rupe turned up yesterday.

[Hemex]

Thats a easy one . Could we also blame the amount of piss drunk for slowing us down. I know i was real slow yesterday after drinking most of saturday while fishin after 4 days on it was gettin to be a bit much had crash on couch watchin tv when Rupe turned up yesterday.

I reckon you could blame the booze... everytime you and LittleJohn finshed a bottle I had one ready for you fella's...hahaha
Oh and Steve too...said he was pretty wasted by the end of the night... :lol:

[Reckless]

didnt the 2T fire with one kick......lol

And didn't we see that blue 4 stroke thing being pushed up the ramp outside to crash start it??? :bleh:


T'was a freak accident.

Mind your tongue my girl. :laugh:

[cheese]

Give me about 25 more hours and mine will be ready.........

Yeah mine is due in about 48, so book me in for 2010..... LOL

Got to ride some more!

[LittleJohn]

Yeah mine is due in about 48, so book me in for 2025..... LOL

Got to ride some more!

Edit for correctness...

[barty5]

Yeah mine is due in about 48, so book me in for 2010..... LOL

Got to ride some more!

48 hrs you could run in the classic class by time you do that many hrs.:laugh: could be classed as an antique you may also have to look at converting it to run on hydogen by then.

[Reckless]

48 hrs you could run in the classic class by time you do that many hrs.:laugh: could be classed as an antique you may also have to look at converting it to run on hydogen by then.

LOL or methane just fart into the carby and the rider with the most wind will win!
Wonder who that would be! :whistle: :Playnice:

[tnarg]

Sucks I had to work. Let us know when your keen to do another one, my bike is ready for a rebuild.

[kezzafish]

LOL or methane just fart into the caby and the rider with the most wind will win!
Wonder who that would be! :whistle: :Playnice:

I've heard that methane goes stale really quick. My suggestion would be cheese converts it to steam and carries a bag of coal on his back. Could we do a rebuild night on "how to convert your 2t into a steam engine"? might be worth coming up for

[cheese]

na i'll make it electric

[Sammikins]

Electric bikes (and cars for that matter) are for homo's :oi-grr:

[LittleJohn]

na i'll make it electric

Batteries don't have a long lifespan either, they will run flat and their lifespan be over after you get out for one ride!!!

[barty5]

Batteries don't have a long lifespan either, they will run flat and their lifespan be over after you get out for one ride!!!

that ill be fine for cheese wouldnt need any more than that.:bash::bash:

[cheese]

Electric bikes (and cars for that matter) are for homo's :oi-grr:

Did you watch top gear with those new electric cars? the Teslar? One gear and it revs to 14,000 RPM and it goes around the top gear track faster than a Porsche GT3. - battery life is a bit of a issue and recharge time is too, but there is rumored to be a huge revolution in battery charging technology that means you could charge something like your cell phone in under 1 minute. I won't go into it cause its far to geeky.

The other electric car was a Hydrogen Fuel cell made by Honda. It has a reasonable power output and pretty good distances it can go. And the price of hydrogen is about the same as petrol. And the only by product of driving - water.

[cheese]

Batteries don't have a long lifespan either, they will run flat and their lifespan be over after you get out for one ride!!!

No worse than replacing pistons and rings and paying what the fuck Arabs want to charge for oil......

[oldskool]

Did you watch top gear with those new electric cars? the Teslar? One gear and it revs to 14,000 RPM and it goes around the top gear track faster than a Porsche GT3. - battery life is a bit of a issue and recharge time is too, but there is rumored to be a huge revolution in battery charging technology that means you could charge something like your cell phone in under 1 minute. I won't go into it cause its far to geeky.

The other electric car was a Hydrogen Fuel cell made by Honda. It has a reasonable power output and pretty good distances it can go. And the price of hydrogen is about the same as petrol. And the only by product of driving - water.
oh oh homo alert coming on :shit:

[B0000M]

then comes the problem of where the power is going to come from for your electric bike.

[Sammikins]

put a harness on it and have a horse-drawn bike....

[oldskool]

then comes the problem of where the power is going to come from for your electric bike.
Cheese is going to china to look for a swag of cheap rechargeable AA ni-cads. Open these up and pour them into his gas tank, with a couple of well placed probes he can be sitting on top of a pretty big charge.

[Sammikins]

actually i prefer the idea of a pack of sled dogs pulling the bike. now THAT would be cool :2thumbsup

[Reckless]

put a harness on it and have a horse-drawn bike....


Stallions for girls and Mares for boys?? Nuf said? :buggerd: :Playnice:

[barty5]

actually i prefer the idea of a pack of sled dogs pulling the bike. now THAT would be cool :2thumbsup

Yeh could just imagine that going up over a nice table top or a double. You going to ride with a long stick with a bone dangling from it. Other problem would be you couldnt roost any one.

[cheese]

You lot are a pack of weirdos.

[Sammikins]

You lot are a pack of weirdos.

It's cos my dad gave me beer when I was a baby....

[oldskool]

Yeh could just imagine that going up over a nice table top or a double. You going to ride with a long stick with a bone dangling from it. Other problem would be you couldnt roost any one.
Are we talking a witches broom here?

[Sammikins]

Are we talking a witches broom here?

You don't need a long stick with a broom, just stick a bitch on heat at the end of the track. A streaky orange promo girl should do the trick. :lol:

[Reckless]

A streaky orange promo girl should do the trick. :lol:

oH WE WISH!!:woohoo:

[oldskool]

You don't need a long stick with a broom, just stick a bitch on heat at the end of the track. A streaky orange promo girl should do the trick. :lol:
First one home gets the trick you reckon:banana::headbang:

[Sammikins]

nah first one home gets the clap!

[oldskool]

nah first one home gets the clap!

:2thumbsup:first: nice one!:clap:

[barty5]

Was going to say id be in for that race but im not so sure now.

[Sammikins]

Far out, the stinking promo girl was there for the sled dog teams, not you guys! :Pokey:

[oldskool]

Far out, the stinking promo girl was there for the sled dog teams, not you guys! :Pokey:
oh, I thought you meant we were the dogs and you were the red head beating us with a stick... :spanking:

[Sammikins]

oh, I thought you meant we were the dogs and you were the red head beating us with a stick... :spanking:

Oh for pete's sake! It's not difficult: Cheese is going to convert his bike to sled dog powered, a stinky orange-skinned promo girl will be placed at the end in lieu of a bitch on heat, in order to get the dogs up to speed to fly right over those jumps. I've given up hitting guys with sticks. Gets me in too much trouble.

[oldskool]

Oh for pete's sake! It's not difficult: Cheese is going to convert his bike to sled dog powered, a stinky orange-skinned promo girl will be placed at the end in lieu of a bitch on heat, in order to get the dogs up to speed to fly right over those jumps. I've given up hitting guys with sticks. Gets me in too much trouble.
...But wheres the bitch on a broomstick come in?

[Sammikins]

...But wheres the bitch on a broomstick come in?

Can't be quite so too sure....

[barty5]

Oh for pete's sake! It's not difficult: Cheese is going to convert his bike to sled dog powered, a stinky orange-skinned promo girl will be placed at the end in lieu of a bitch on heat, in order to get the dogs up to speed to fly right over those jumps. I've given up hitting guys with sticks. Gets me in too much trouble.

so your not going to beat us with sticks sweet and your not the stinky orange skinned promo girl (where do you get orange skinned promo girls anyway) Could she be blue prefer yamaha ktm coloured girl would most likely cost more as all ktm parts seam to.

[Sammikins]

so your not going to beat us with sticks sweet and your not the stinky orange skinned promo girl (where do you get orange skinned promo girls anyway) Could she be blue prefer yamaha ktm coloured girl would most likely cost more as all ktm parts seam to.

LOL orange skinned promo girls range in shade from dark orange through to a mustardy almost yellow colour, resulting from too much spraytanning. I couldn't possibly be the blue promo girl, my ability to string together sentences comprising of more than two words rules me out. :laugh:

[barty5]

LOL orange skinned promo girls range in shade from dark orange through to a mustardy almost yellow colour, resulting from too much spraytanning. I couldn't possibly be the blue promo girl, my ability to string together sentences comprising of more than two words rules me out. :laugh:

Wouldnt want a yellow for fear of her falling appart or in cheeses case she would keep springing leaks.:laugh:

[oldskool]

Wouldnt want a yellow for fear of her falling appart or in cheeses case she would keep springing leaks.:laugh:
Count me in for a green one, apparently the green makeup looks better than the rest on telly

[barty5]

Count me in for a green one, apparently the green makeup looks better than the rest on telly

just take any promo girl out on a boat trip most will come back lookin green.

[oldskool]

just take any promo girl out on a boat trip most will come back lookin green.
Only time I'd take a promo girl out on fishing trip is if she's a master baiter

[Sammikins]

Well they all stink of fish anyways...<_<

[oldskool]

Well they all stink of fish anyways...<_<
hmmm I detect a bit of hostility here :no:

[barty5]

Well they all stink of fish anyways...<_<

Only the real skanky ones

[oldskool]

Only the real skanky ones
I haven't had the good fortune to dip my toes into that one

[REDRIDER]

Okey dokey, following the rebuild, new airfilters and a new clutch cable the CR "or should I name her" has a flat spot at high revs, torque down low is good, power comes on much as before but with more of a kick. BUT... 3/4 through power band theres a flat spot for about 1.5 seconds then takes off again it is more noticeable in the high gears.

Would this have to do with the RC valve adjustment...?? or is it a tuning thing now that it has a new piston???

[barty5]

Okey dokey, following the rebuild, new airfilters and a new clutch cable the CR "or should I name her" has a flat spot at high revs, torque down low is good, power comes on much as before but with more of a kick. BUT... 3/4 through power band theres a flat spot for about 1.5 seconds then takes off again it is more noticeable in the high gears.

Would this have to do with the RC valve adjustment...?? or is it a tuning thing now that it has a new piston???

coulb be to do with the damaged power valve cable

[REDRIDER]

coulb be to do with the damaged power valve cable

yeah im thinkin, just wanted some more informed opinions, is that the sort of thing you would expect with a damaged cable. - should have got one yesterday, bugger

[barty5]

best ask rick he was lookin at how the system worked i didnt really get a good look at it other than where the adjuster had broke booom may be able to tell you or shed some light.

[Reckless]

Okey dokey, following the rebuild, new airfilters and a new clutch cable the CR "or should I name her" has a flat spot at high revs, torque down low is good, power comes on much as before but with more of a kick. BUT... 3/4 through power band theres a flat spot for about 1.5 seconds then takes off again it is more noticeable in the high gears.

Would this have to do with the RC valve adjustment...?? or is it a tuning thing now that it has a new piston???

New piston shouldn't really have any effect on tuning at all!
Firstly was the problem there in your first ride (you didn't mention it) or has it developed since.

It could have something to do with the power valve not working properly if that loose bolt is jamming the arm. Your manual said they where a self adjusting servo motor but re read it in case that actuator arm has to be put at a set angle.
Other than that you could strip and clean the carb to make sure no shit got in there when we had it apart it was pretty dirty in that air box and the filter looked like it may have been at the point the foam was maybe breaking down so there might be a bit of that floating around in the carb.

I haven't had anything to do with those RC power valves on the CR my 01 was a manual one so Booom may be able to add something here. Send him a PM and alert him to the thread.

A new piston won't cause a flat spot its either something done during the job or something that's developed since.

[REDRIDER]

best ask rick he was lookin at how the system worked i didnt really get a good look at it other than where the adjuster had broke booom may be able to tell you or shed some light.

for those that may be able to help here goes. the adjuster cable with the threaded end has broken has snapped (wear and tear)... ive put the adjuster nuts back on the remainder of the thread so it all sits tight 1 nut inside and 1 nut outside, i spose this means there is no adjustment available and it may now be tighter than previous. Can anyone tell me if the RC valve is self adjusting, and if I buy a new cable am I "mechanically illiterate" going to be able to adjust to the correct position or is it simply a case of trial and error. chairs..darryl

[cheese]

you can cock up the cable tension on the power valve actuator. Check it. THe cables are only $20 and they are a common item to break on CR's. Its its worn just get a new oene and fit it.

[cheese]

DAm you posted while I was posting. Yeah get a new one and I think that they self align. Have you got the manual?

[barty5]

so just to be a smart arse dose this now mean team 4stroke won the build of as although it had trobles starting as far as im aware it still going sweet.:bash:

[REDRIDER]

DAm you posted while I was posting. Yeah get a new one and I think that they self align. Have you got the manual?

yeah Ill grap one tomorrow, I have got a manual, but all and it does say its self adjusting but if that was the case why the adjuster nuts....hhmm

[REDRIDER]

so just to be a smart arse dose this now mean team 4stroke won the build of as although it had trobles starting as far as im aware it still going sweet.:bash:

trobles :Oops:....I was waiting for that come in to play. normally barty I would have to conceed and agree with you but the the cable in question was broken pre rebuild so we discovered so NO, 2T still on top..ringningningning :2thumbsup

[Reckless]

yeah Ill grap one tomorrow, I have got a manual, but all and it does say its self adjusting but if that was the case why the adjuster nuts....hhmm

The adjuster nuts will be so you can get the correct tension on the cables so the servo motor works at optimum. But i was expecting the book to be able to tell us what that was? Like tightish cables or a bit of play in them and what angle the arm should be at closed. It does on the manual ones!

Which gives me an Idea! If we have put to much tension on the cables maybe that is causing the motor to stick and flick open when its at 3/4 throttle?? Try backing it off until the cables only have minimal tension on them?? I expected the manual to have told us more, but say as much tension as like a throttle cable!
I still would have expected you to notice a large change in power delivery if the power valve was staying closed until 3/4 throttle though, it would seem dead as!

Secondly when you go to the Honda dealer have an ask there about the set up for the power valve and cables seeing its not in the manual.
But I still have a little problem in connecting a flat spot with the power valve. I'd still be stripping the carb especially if its been dealing with all that crud that was in the airbox and if you haven't had the carb off for a clean in a long time.

You still didn't say if this flat spot was there from the start or if it developed after a while?

Oh and now its run in and you can rev it to 8k, take the cover off and make sure its operating smoothly.
We couldn't do that on the night on a fresh motor could we??

[Reckless]

so just to be a smart arse dose this now mean team 4stroke won the build of as although it had trobles starting as far as im aware it still going sweet.:bash:

Jeepers Barty :spanking: we already took twice as long as we needed to to the job in the first place and I taught/got redrider to do most of it. :bleh:

[barty5]

Jeepers Barty :spanking: we already took twice as long as we needed to to the job in the first place and I taught/got redrider to do most of it. :bleh:

cant blame a guy for tryin:second::ar15::first:

[REDRIDER]

the nut was NOT on for the inital dome valley mish saturday but that was really a run in period, i only gave it some towards the end, which is when i noticed it, it has got worse since I toot2ed with it. By reattaching the nut I have tensioned the cable and it had heaps of bog down low later tonight. Pretty sure a new cable with help heaps and heading towards less tension..

[Reckless]

the nut was NOT on for the inital dome valley mish saturday but that was really a run in period, i only gave it some towards the end, which is when i noticed it, it has got worse since I toot2ed with it. By reattaching the nut I have tensioned the cable and it had heaps of bog down low later tonight. Pretty sure a new cable with help heaps and heading towards less tension..

Yeh mate given that reply! I'd get that power valve set up right! Does it open suddenly when you rev it in the garage! I'd hate to think we are putting to much pressure on that servo. Specially if its worse since you had another go at it. Better get that new cable and make sure its set right and opens smooth! Let us know how you go OK! If you get desperate I'll give John a call at Botany Honda he's really helpful!! PM me your phone number, we should go for a ride sometime anyway!

[barty5]

just had read through the manual not very clear is it but it dose say it automatic addjustment once set up and gose in to detail on how to test its operatoin did you get a copy of the manual??? did you guys decarbon the power valves ???

[Reckless]

just had read through the manual not very clear is it but it dose say it automatic addjustment once set up and gose in to detail on how to test its operatoin did you get a copy of the manual??? did you guys decarbon the power valves ???

There was very little carbon on the flap and it worked really well with the barrel off so we didn't strip it out! Spent so much time explaining it to the others we didn't think we had time by then. Although if we had of known when you where going to be done we could have. :girlfight:
Manual: Red had loose pages but we sorta left it as the cable adjuster was snapped and the bolt and a bit of threaded adjuster was sitting down on the arm. It needed promt attention anyway.

[REDRIDER]

There was very little carbon on the flap and it worked really well with the barrel off so we didn't strip it out! Spent so much time explaining it to the others we didn't think we had time by then. Although if we had of known when you where going to be done we could have. :girlfight:
Manual: Red had loose pages but we sorta left it as the cable adjuster was snapped and the bolt and a bit of threaded adjuster was sitting down on the arm. It needed promt attention anyway.

It did need attention and really I need to stop being so lazy with the maintenence... new cables ordered should be here today tomorrow, hopefully good for the sandpit sunday..

[cheese]

yeah Ill grap one tomorrow, I have got a manual, but all and it does say its self adjusting but if that was the case why the adjuster nuts....hhmm

No you need to have tension on the cable. Its self positioning in terms of its location when the bike starts.

[REDRIDER]

hows dat 4T going fullaz :( sorry couldnt resist stirring

[barty5]

hows dat 4T going fullaz :( sorry couldnt resist stirring

lookin at that tommorrow night kinda strange.

[REDRIDER]

lookin at that tommorrow night kinda strange.

blame the rider I reckon, hopefully its an easy fix, he was/is coming to the farm friday.

[telliman]

ahaha yeah i heard abt that too, bloody bike mechanics these days eh, hard finding a good one!:clap:

[B0000M]

lol. oh hi guys! im a bit late

pretty much what cheese says.

have the cables to they arent slack, but arent tight. they self adjust as far as initial position goes, so its not that.

and if you have shitty cables, replace them

[telliman]

Heres some pics of boosted NOT working on his bike.

ahah, is that sammikins cranking up the head gasket!

[Sammikins]

ahah, is that sammikins cranking up the head gasket!

Looks like i gotta fix it some more tonite too. :angry:

[barty5]

And with any luck might get the pw80 done tonight as well

[Sammikins]

right so im doing my car, boosted's bike AND the pw80??! I should open a shop... :lol:

[barty5]

right so im doing my car, boosted's bike AND the pw80??! I should open a shop... :lol:

yeh im going to sit back and watch heheheh oh and have a drink or 2 (nothing to much out a the norm there tho)

[Sammikins]

yeh im going to sit back and watch heheheh oh and have a drink or 2 (nothing to much out a the norm there tho)

What if I start applying the 'just break it' technique?

[barty5]

What if I start applying the 'just break it' technique?

your dad can stay home youll be right

[Danger]

What happened to Adams bike?

[barty5]

What happened to Adams bike?

ran it with no coolant in the water guess it got rather hot while he was muckin round follow some girl goin real slow as it blew the head gasket out to the water jacket.
all been sort now runs mint.

[Boosted]

yeh runs perfect now :D