Controlling costs

[Rcktfsh]

Seeming as the trend in recent posts has been towards controlling costs in NZ road racing what do members think of these pukee pics of Sam Smiths bike?

[Teambwr47]

Its a remote adjustable Ohlins shock.

There are two buttons mounted on the left handle bar that Sam was able to use to increase or decrease both Compression and Rebound damping on the shock.

Not that bothered to be honest.

[Shaun P]

Looks quite cool to me, adjust by feel without having to come in when setting up, if anything would be cost effective

[Mishy]

Thats WAAAAAAY cool !
I Know that Robert was talking about this, and the pictures look exactly like I was expecting. Hope it all worked as hoped :yes:

Sam went really well at Puke, I wonder how much the shock had to do with that ? what do we all think ?

[CHOPPA]

:Pokey::buggerd::lol:

[Mishy]

I asked and you cant buy it so no worries


You would be ASTOUNDED if you knew what all that cost . . . . . . . . .

[Toast]

Wow that's very, very cool!!!

If all bikes had that people would be much more inclined to experiment with different settings - for better and worse, hopefully proceeding with a bit of caution - but it would be a very cool, practical learning tool

[cs363]

You would be ASTOUNDED if you knew what all that cost . . . . . . . . .


STUNNED even.... :blink:

[Tony.OK]

It'll always be the same....................those that can WILL!

If I could I would....................I'm a sucker for techie shit like that, in reality I have enough trouble remembering what to do out on track without playin with buttons hahaa.

I can see that system being hooked into the already selectable maps that some bikes have, push a button for certain parts of a lap.......give it time and it'll be automatically done with a gps tracker if it hasn't already.
Theres alway something better just around the corner.........thats evolution.

[gixerracer]

Seeming as the trend in recent posts has been towards controlling costs in NZ road racing what do members think of these pukee pics of Sam Smiths bike?

That shock was a load of crap something that has been in the pipe line for a while just to get all the whingers wound up and it has worked a treat.
The wires went under the tail unit and pluged into fresh air pie there was a small hole in the terminals on the shock so an alen key could fit to adjust the shock as per yours and mine, as for the switches on the bar the also went to the same fresh air pie and done sweet FA. The purpose was to get chins flapping and to take this piss out of all the cry babbies at the track that think so and so wins because they have this that and the other thing that jo blogs cant get, case and point proved I would say Sam is actually REALLY REALLY good. HAHA:hug:

[White trash]

That shock was a load of crap something that has been in the pipe line for a while just to get all the whingers wound up and it has worked a treat.
The wires went under the tail unit and pluged into fresh air pie there was a small hole in the terminals on the shock so an alen key could fit to adjust the shock as per yours and mine, as for the switches on the bar the also went to the same fresh air pie and done sweet FA. The purpose was to get chins flapping and to take this piss out of all the cry babbies at the track that think so and so wins because they have this that and the other thing that jo blogs cant get, case and point proved I would say Sam is actually REALLY REALLY good. HAHA:hug:
Oh my fucking god, THAT'S BRILLIANT!!!

ps. Change ya fucken name ya dork.

[roadracingoldfart]

ps. Change ya fucken name ya dork.


I agree Who is that Suzuki racer dude fella ??? Is it one of them Aussie fellas still lurking ?
;):whistle:

Just wait till our Craig gets wind of him still being here aye !! :pinch:

[White trash]

Should change his name to GayCBRracer or Hondasrule or maybe GSXRracersAREsheep.

Seriously though, well done this season Craig. I know it was a tough one. Bit more development on that bike and you'll be right at the front again where ya belong.

[Robert Taylor]

Craig Craig Craig, as diplomatic and PC as ever! When I have my right wing coup you can be ''Minister of War'', never ''Minister of Foreign Affairs.
I stress to add that all those that have posted prior to this e-mail are all good people ( even the dwarf that posted ) and are not of a negative ''I cant have it so neither can you'' demeanour.
To all those that bought into the deception I sincerely apologise as we had to have a blanket deception for the intended purpose to work and work it sure as hell did! The target was to see just how tetchy a competing team(s) would get. It worked so well that we had questions from an MNZ representative on Sunday morning. Had it been hooked up it would have been legal as no telemetry was involved.
That Sam was able to come back from a serious crash in qualifying, that everyone pulled together and rebuilt the bike overnight and that Sam won the first race ( and very nearly the second ) was a fairytale. Especially as Sam has slowly but surely regained his confidence.
And yes I agree with ''GayCBRracer'' SAM IS VERY GOOD. Not only as a racer but also as one of the most polite guys you could ever meet, for that he has my 110% ongoing support and I know I can also answer for Davy Cole, the best Yamaha engine builder in the country.
We also coincidentally had a new piston design inside the front forks, testing for Ohlins. The bike worked better entirely because of that, not because of the rear end.

[Tony.OK]

Arghhhh fuggit....................theres some drool gone that I might've needed for later:doh:

[cs363]

Bugger....that was shaping up nicely. I was hoping it would drag out to a few pages. :apint:

[Mishy]

Bugger....that was shaping up nicely. I was hoping it would drag out to a few pages. :apint:

Craig's a spoil sport !
Who would have thought that a couple of rubber boots from a car starter motor, and a couple of RS232 sockets wired to nothing but air would look so cool ?
Robert - perhaps you would consider Craig for "Pacific Affairs" ?

[t3mp0r4ry nzr]

I think its the blue cable ties which makes it so technologically advanced

[Kickaha]

Should change his name to GayCBRracer or Hondasrule or maybe GSXRracersAREsheep.



Or CBRcrasher:dodge:

Nice pisstake, there should be more of it

[Robert Taylor]

Or CBRcrasher:dodge:

Nice pisstake, there should be more of it

Ill tell you one day how effective it was for the target audience ( which was very very specific) You will wet yourself laughing

[CHOPPA]

Old sam and robert aye still stiching me up even after the event! You wait! hahaha

[svr]

When I have my right wing coup you can be ''Minister of War'', never ''Minister of Foreign Affairs.


Aha! - If you were a real right-winger you would know it was the same job brief :msn-wink:

[scrivy]

Nice pisstake, there should be more of it

You just keep doing your lap times Kick - we're all still pissing ourselves laughing..... :bleh:

[slowpoke]

Haha, once you've finished pulling it off Sam's bike can I stick it on mine, it looks way cool.....?

That would go down a fuggin' TREAT on some Septic Tank websites, you'd sell 'em as fast you could build 'em.

Great to see the pisstake is alive and well at the pointy end.

[Robert Taylor]

Haha, once you've finished pulling it off Sam's bike can I stick it on mine, it looks way cool.....?

That would go down a fuggin' TREAT on some Septic Tank websites, you'd sell 'em as fast you could build 'em.

Great to see the pisstake is alive and well at the pointy end.

Yeah and when we fit the real stuff no-one will know! Cool.

[Maido]

I also saw somewhere (I think it was on Gareths bike??) they had put a label beside his gear lever and on his boot that said Quick Shifter! classic.

[Robert Taylor]

Aha! - If you were a real right-winger you would know it was the same job brief :msn-wink:

War is the ultimate form of diplomacy. Right wing dogma is alive and well and regenerating in NZ, long live right wing dogma!!!

[Robert Taylor]

I also saw somewhere (I think it was on Gareths bike??) they had put a label beside his gear lever and on his boot that said Quick Shifter! classic.

No it was more clever than that, it read ''Shift quickly'' Knowing some of the background to it it struck a funny chord with more than a few people.
We just went a stage further with our deception as it got all the way to MNZ.

[cs363]

No it was more clever than that, it read ''Shift quickly'' Knowing some of the background to it it struck a funny chord with more than a few people.
We just went a stage further with our deception as it got all the way to MNZ.


Never mind MNZ (at least for now) How did your mate the Puff Adder and others react? :Pokey: :laugh:

Rumour has it that more than a few people got a little out of shape over it, and once again I'm excluding the men in white coats brigade.

[Robert Taylor]

Never mind MNZ (at least for now) How did your mate the Puff Adder and others react? :Pokey: :laugh:

Rumour has it that more than a few people got a little out of shape over it, and once again I'm excluding the men in white coats brigade.

Please elaborate?????????????????????????

[Robert Taylor]

CS363 I now have twigged who you were referring to, certainly a wicked referral but it should go no further.
This little exercise was a very valuable exposure / test of human nature. Especially by anyone who felt threatened by the appearance of same even though it is within the rules. People walked in and out of Sams pit that hadnt done so for the entire Nationals, like bees to the honey. I think there is always an assumption that thinks the worst...are they cheating? I bet it costs megabucks etc.
The real version inclusive of telemetry was successfully used in the last 2 or three races of WSBK and was subsequently banned. It was banned not so much because of the Ohlins system but because the governing body really feared what technology BMW could bring from their Formula 1 experience.
I hope it appears at some time again in the future when everyone is not ducking for cover because of the world financial mess. Unless I am missing something a major component of racing is the ongoing quest to lap faster. Electronically controlled suspension is a new and exciting frontier.

[Teambwr47]

Interesting what different views we all take on these things...

I looked at it first when DC was carrying it to your trailer and then again on Sams bike. My own view on it was hey thats cool but how on earth could you mentally cope with the potential range of change it would give on track.

The thought didn't cross my mind as to 'is it legal' but it obviously did to some out there.

Great wind up by you guys... I guess i'm a bit oblivious to the moaners and whingers in the paddocks at the moment but I'm sure I'll find out who they are.

[Maido]

What better motivation does a fellow racer need than to try and beat the guy with the electric shock! (pardon the pun)

[scracha]

What better motivation does a fellow racer need than to try and beat the guy with the electric shock! (pardon the pun)
I reckon we should hook it up to a computer with a radio link. That way RT can adjust Sam's shock mid-corner. Now that would be cool

[slowpoke]

I reckon we should hook it up to a computer with a radio link. That way RT can adjust Sam's shock mid-corner. Now that would be cool

Especially if they install a microphone as well so we can hear Sam's expletives when RT makes the changes.

[cs363]

CS363 I now have twigged who you were referring to, certainly a wicked referral but it should go no further.

You're getting slow in your old age....you'll know you've really lost it when you get to the polling booth and can't remember whether to tick the red or blue box.... :bleh: :laugh:



Unless I am missing something a major component of racing is the ongoing quest to lap faster.

You're not missing anything (except maybe a few brain cells as per above :laugh:) though unfortunately there are some people in the governing body that seem to have forgotten that basic component :)

Anyway, back to the thread....

[GSVR]

Unless I am missing something a major component of racing is the ongoing quest to lap faster. Electronically controlled suspension is a new and exciting frontier.

Electric Vehicles are a new and exciting frontier. Electronic suspension is so eighties. Someone will be reinventing the wheel next...

[Robert Taylor]

You're getting slow in your old age....you'll know you've really lost it when you get to the polling booth and can't remember whether to tick the red or blue box.... :bleh: :laugh:




You're not missing anything (except maybe a few brain cells as per above :laugh:) though unfortunately there are some people in the governing body that seem to have forgotten that basic component :)

Anyway, back to the thread....

You have my full permission to exact a horrible death upon me if I ever voted for that red lot..........

[Robert Taylor]

Electric Vehicles are a new and exciting frontier. Electronic suspension is so eighties. Someone will be reinventing the wheel next...

Excellent, if it is so eighties then why did a few people get tetchy............

[GSVR]

Excellent, if it is so eighties then why did a few people get tetchy............

Maybe they didn't wan't to see the same things happen as did in F1 leading to active suspension and traction control being banned.

[cowpoos]

pie

Yum....what kind of pie was it?

[GSVR]

Yum....what kind of pie was it?

"fresh air pie" but could be a "hot air pie" when the engine warms up.