Man arrested in Hamilton after doing a runner

[madbikeboy]

Man arrested after high speed pursuit
New 8:38AM Sunday Mar 15, 2009

A 34-year-old man has been arrested following a high-speed chase in Hamilton.

Police were attempting to stop the man on a motorcycle about midnight on Friday when he sped off, Senior Sergeant Jeff Penno said.

The man reached speeds of more than 150km/h in the industrial area of Pukete but police abandoned the pursuit when it entered a residential area, he said.

A member of the public later saw the man on foot and alerted police.

Mr Penno said a police dog handler found the man in a gully less than 100m from his abandoned motorcycle.

A man will appear in Hamilton District Court next week charged with reckless driving, driving with a suspended license and failing to stop.

- NZPA

[YellowDog]

I heard that Police often give up the chase. I am just wondering why the member of the public felt the need to phone the Police (what had he done wrong) and also how did they Police know it was the same person?

[toebug]

I also how did they Police know it was the same person?

It might have been because he was bush walking in leathers!!!:argh:

[dino3310]

i'm glad the dickhead didnt bin and kill someone or it would have ended up on the news and once again tarring us all with the same brush.

anyone we know?

[Swoop]

I wonder what sort of night the Mormon Few had?

[Muppet]

It might have been because he was bush walking in leathers!!!:argh:

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[jrandom]

They must love it when they catch one.

I wonder why the crazy fool got off of his bike? Must've run outta gas. Well, I guess meeting the Highway Patrol's friend pain will teach him not to go being a crazy fool again.

:yes:

[vtec]

150? He must have been on a Hyo GT250. That's more of a low speed chase.

[rainman]

I wonder what sort of night the Mormon Few had?

Surely none of them are 34? More like half that...

[spudchucka]

I heard that Police often give up the chase. I am just wondering why the member of the public felt the need to phone the Police (what had he done wrong) and also how did they Police know it was the same person?

The person that phoned quite likely saw the criminal running away from his bike and figured something wasn't right. How did they know it was him? Something to do with the land shark tracking him from where he left the bike and finding him hiding in a gully a short distance away perhaps?

[Swoop]

Something to do with the land shark tracking him ...
Land Shark. I like that description, but it should be "variable-control land shark" especially in the case of the Kerikeri constable!

[Forest]

That's a good result.

Nobody got killed or injured, nobody crashed, and a dickhead speeding through a residential area at night got cuffed.

Top marks to the cops involved.

[madbikeboy]

Surely none of them are 34? More like half that...

34 IQ points sounds right...

[spudchucka]

Land Shark. I like that description, but it should be "variable-control land shark" especially in the case of the Kerikeri constable!

Mostly they have a very good on-off switch, not too much variable control but a very well defined on mode and off mode.

[Swoop]

Mostly they have a very good on-off switch, not too much variable control but a very well defined on mode and off mode.
Not quite as effective an "on-off" as desired, according to the plod who had the calf-muscle bite marks...

[Vorno]

I heard that Police often give up the chase. I am just wondering why the member of the public felt the need to phone the Police (what had he done wrong) and also how did they Police know it was the same person?

...Well if its anything like what I saw last week and dialed 111 (a guy ran past me at work "outside"... without a shirt on and yelled out something then jumped the fence into school grounds... this happened the day after I heard that overseas school masacar and i thought... nope CALL THE COPS!)

... They must have already been chasing the guy because they come 2-3mins later with a cop car and a helicopter!!!

I presume they caught the guy.

[98tls]

Mostly they have a very good on-off switch, not too much variable control but a very well defined on mode and off mode. A few years back on Christmas day my cousin got an hour off and turned up in the work wagon with the dog n back,said hound spent the hour chasing tennis balls chucked by 3 n 4 year olds and faithfully retrived and returned each time,when Craig put him back in the wagon to return to work my Aunt Judith held the 4 year old up to the paddy wagons window to "wave goodbye to the nice doggy" the fucken thing just about came threw the window and bit her head off:laugh:Guess he was ready to go to work:confused:

[Pussy]

A few years back on Christmas day my cousin got an hour off and turned up in the work wagon with the dog n back,said hound spent the hour chasing tennis balls chucked by 3 n 4 year olds and faithfully retrived and returned each time,when Craig put him back in the wagon to return to work my Aunt Judith held the 4 year old up to the paddy wagons window to "wave goodbye to the nice doggy" the fucken thing just about came threw the window and bit her head off:laugh:Guess he was ready to go to work:confused:

Yeah, but did the kid have lots of tatts and gang affiliations though? :whistle:

[98tls]

Yeah, but did the kid have lots of tatts and gang affiliations though? :whistle: Err no,twas his son:nono:

[spudchucka]

A few years back on Christmas day my cousin got an hour off and turned up in the work wagon with the dog n back,said hound spent the hour chasing tennis balls chucked by 3 n 4 year olds and faithfully retrived and returned each time,when Craig put him back in the wagon to return to work my Aunt Judith held the 4 year old up to the paddy wagons window to "wave goodbye to the nice doggy" the fucken thing just about came threw the window and bit her head off:laugh:Guess he was ready to go to work:confused:

Yeah, they do that the bastards. Soon as they get in that wagon they go into work mode and if you don't like the sound of a dog barking right into your ear don't ever go for a ride with one when they are tearing off to a job.

[spudchucka]

Not quite as effective an "on-off" as desired, according to the plod who had the calf-muscle bite marks...

At the end of the day they are just an animal and animals can be unpredictable at times. Plenty of cops get bitten from time to time, you soon learn how to avoid it.

[Finn]

At the end of the day they are just an animal and animals can be unpredictable at times. Plenty of cops get bitten from time to time, you soon learn how to avoid it.

The police dogs in NZ are very well trained. The people that get bitten by them normally show signs of being frightened which makes them look like the person they're trying to hunt. Cops get bitten typically because they are running... just like the perp. Mistaken identity.

[Bass]

Yeah, they do that the bastards. Soon as they get in that wagon they go into work mode and if you don't like the sound of a dog barking right into your ear don't ever go for a ride with one when they are tearing off to a job.

Had a security round as a second job some years ago. Got loaned a dog one night. Really well trained but got pretty excited in the van.
Farted about every 3 minutes - unbelievably bad!!
Eye watering, tear gas, chemical weapons, Geneva convention bad.
Spent the night driving around holding the door open as far as I could.

[madbikeboy]

Had a security round as a second job some years ago. Got loaned a dog one night. Really well trained but got pretty excited in the van.
Farted about every 3 minutes - unbelievably bad!!
Eye watering, tear gas, chemical weapons, Geneva convention bad.
Spent the night driving around holding the door open as far as I could.

Yep, big dogs eating meat, it's almost funny. Almost.

[Bass]

Yep, big dogs eating meat, it's almost funny. Almost.

I've come to suspect that the owner knew exactly what would happen and fed the mutt accordingly.

Bastard!

[spudchucka]

The police dogs in NZ are very well trained. The people that get bitten by them normally show signs of being frightened which makes them look like the person they're trying to hunt. Cops get bitten typically because they are running... just like the perp. Mistaken identity.

No, the people that get bitten by them have been tracked from a crime scene and only get bitten after being challenged to give themselves up and refusing to do so.

Most of the cops I know that have been bitten have been either involved in training accidents or they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. If a cop was running anywhere near the track the dog was following they would have more to fear from the handler than they would have from the dog.

[slofox]

Surely none of them are 34? More like half that...

Not me neither - more like twice that....:devil2:

[klingon]

Yeah, they do that the bastards. Soon as they get in that wagon they go into work mode and if you don't like the sound of a dog barking right into your ear don't ever go for a ride with one when they are tearing off to a job.

I haven't had a lot to do with police dogs but have known a few guide dogs. It's amazing the difference between work and play. When the're off their harnesses they're like puppies running all over the place, rolling around, acting stupid. The minute the harness goes on it's all "don't bother me, I've got a job to do!"

It can be quite hurtful when the dog that was just acting like your best buddy doesn't even have time to glance your way because it's so busy being 'important' and 'sensible'. :rolleyes:

[Hoon]

No, the people that get bitten by them have been tracked from a crime scene and only get bitten after being challenged to give themselves up and refusing to do so.

In the Army we have escape/evasion exercises with hunter forces and choppers. Usually the Police will turn up to give their dogs a run too. We always get the brief about stopping once you are challenged but when you are in 'flight' mode it's very hard to stop. Guys are always getting bit but it's all fun and games.

[Finn]

No, the people that get bitten by them have been tracked from a crime scene and only get bitten after being challenged to give themselves up and refusing to do so.

Most of the cops I know that have been bitten have been either involved in training accidents or they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. If a cop was running anywhere near the track the dog was following they would have more to fear from the handler than they would have from the dog.

Yes, I was referring to the rare occasion when the wrong person gets bitten, just didn't explain myself very well.

There was an incident at my place a couple of years back with a runaway drink driver (on foot). He did this after handing his license over and left his mates in the car. Clever chap. They called a dog unit but by this stage the boys in the newer Holdens with nicely pressed uniforms had littered the place. The dog handler was not impressed.

[Muppet]

Had a security round as a second job some years ago. Got loaned a dog one night. Really well trained but got pretty excited in the van.
Farted about every 3 minutes - unbelievably bad!!
Eye watering, tear gas, chemical weapons, Geneva convention bad.
Spent the night driving around holding the door open as far as I could.

I'll tell you how to get the owner of the dog back. I fed my GSD some pre-cooked sausages that we hadn't used on a bbq. Well, I come in the door at 2 am to be hit in the face by a shitarama!!:sick: The poor bugger had diahorrea and had shat all over the house. Thank god we had (and still do) a Vax. Took me me 2 hours but I got rid of it all.

[spudchucka]

In the Army we have escape/evasion exercises with hunter forces and choppers. Usually the Police will turn up to give their dogs a run too. We always get the brief about stopping once you are challenged but when you are in 'flight' mode it's very hard to stop. Guys are always getting bit but it's all fun and games.

Funny thing is that the criminals that have been bit before generally give as soon they get challenged.

[carver]

I wonder what sort of night the Mormon Few had?

we get away with it here...

[SARGE]

In the Army we have escape/evasion exercises with hunter forces and choppers. Usually the Police will turn up to give their dogs a run too. We always get the brief about stopping once you are challenged but when you are in 'flight' mode it's very hard to stop. Guys are always getting bit but it's all fun and games.

we did E&E training once in the Philippines.. they used dogs too ... apparently.. there is no guaranteed way to evade the damn things once they get " on-scent"

i covered myself with THICK smelly mud and laid perfectly still


fucker still got me ..

spent the next week in a mock POW camp nursing bite marks

only way around the damn things is with a well placed 5.56, E-Tool or combat knife.. other than that .. you're dinner

[Gizzit]

Yeah the sharp bits at the front .... can hurt !

And attempting too ... or actually harming/killing a Police dog .... tends to make the Dog Handler .... a bit cross! Not a very smart thing to do .... :oi-grr:
:bash: :doctor:

[carver]

we did E&E training once in the Philippines.. they used dogs too ... apparently.. there is no guaranteed way to evade the damn things once they get " on-scent"

i covered myself with THICK smelly mud and laid perfectly still


fucker still got me ..

spent the next week in a mock POW camp nursing bite marks

only way around the damn things is with a well placed 5.56, E-Tool or combat knife.. other than that .. you're dinner

how about dropping pepper?

[Gizzit]

how about dropping pepper?

Na ...... that's just gunna get you as sault ed ..... for your trouble :bash:

[Patrick]

They like pepper with their steaks.... thigh, calf, arm, shoulder, arse, whatever....

[EJK]

how about dropping pepper?

Doubt it. Dogs nose is powerful enough to smell imported drugs up peoples ass... from distance.

[ManDownUnder]

Police were attempting to stop the man on a motorcycle about midnight on Friday when he sped off, Senior Sergeant Jeff Penno said.

The man reached speeds of more than 150km/h in the industrial area of Pukete but police abandoned the pursuit when it entered a residential area, he said.

Bloody Police etc etc etc nothing better to do yada yada should be catching real bad guys blah blah blah

Poor innocent biker hard done by yada yada yada call the Police Complaints Authority etc etc etc nothing'll get done - pack of bastards anyway.

Your sincerely
KB member name here

Did I miss anything?

[Guided_monkey]

Once the dog's are given the attack command the best thing is to stop and surrender.

Had an exercise where the attacking party thought that putting down CS gas was a good joke (not briefed on use). So none of the defenders had masks.

Well the dog still went through a wall of the stuff and took one of the attackers down....... we laughed (well cried) as the dog handler had to go through and get his dog off.

One happy dog, a very CS'd dog handler and another soldier with bite marks.

Go the puppies..... :woohoo:

[Mikkel]

Doubt it. Dogs nose is powerful enough to smell imported drugs up peoples ass... from distance.

Most incredible thing I've heard of was a labrador drug hound who found a stash of drugs that had been hidden inside the petrol tank of a car. In a air/petrol tight container inside a petrol tank filled with petrol... I just don't get it, how does it work? NMRI? X-rays? Beggars belief! :scratch:

[Gizzit]

Once the dog's are given the attack command the best thing is to stop and surrender. ..... SNIP .....

Once the Dog Handler has said "Rouse" ...... it's way to late to stop and surrender !! Your arse is dog tucker !!! lol :D

The time to stop and surrender is while the Dog Handler has still got the dog on the tracking harness, and has told you to stop and surrender !! Once the dog is

released ..... your arse is toast !!!! lol. :shit: :eek: :laugh:

[Toot Toot]

And attempting too ... or actually harming/killing a Police dog .... tends to make the Dog Handler .... a bit cross! Not a very smart thing to do ....

No you will end up in jail. It is an offence similar to assaulting a police officer. Also dont bother their horses.. or feed any of the above.

(A) No person shall knowingly cause, or attempt to cause, physical harm to a police dog or horse in either of the following circumstances:

(1) The police dog or horse is assisting a law enforcement officer in the performance of the officer's official duties at the time the physical harm is caused or attempted.

(2) The police dog or horse is not assisting a law enforcement officer in the performance of the officer's official duties at the time the physical harm is caused or attempted, but the offender has actual knowledge that the dog or horse is a police dog or horse.

(B) No person shall recklessly do any of the following:

(1) Taunt, torment, or strike a police dog or horse;

(2) Throw an object or substance at a police dog or horse;

(3) Interfere with or obstruct a police dog or horse, or interfere with or obstruct a law enforcement officer who is being assisted by a police dog or horse, in a manner that does any of the following:

(a) Inhibits or restricts the law enforcement officer's control of the police dog or horse;

(b) Deprives the law enforcement officer of control of the police dog or horse;

(c) Releases the police dog or horse from its area of control;

(d) Enters the area of control of the police dog or horse without the consent of the law enforcement officer, including placing food or any other object or substance into that area;

(e) Inhibits or restricts the ability of the police dog or horse to assist a law enforcement officer.

(4) Engage in any conduct that is likely to cause serious physical injury or death to a police dog or horse;

(5) If the person is the owner, keeper, or harborer of a dog, fail to reasonably restrain the dog from taunting, tormenting, chasing, approaching in a menacing fashion or apparent attitude of attack, or attempting to bite or otherwise endanger a police dog or horse that at the time of the conduct is assisting a law enforcement officer in the performance of the officer's duties or that the person knows is a police dog or horse.

(C) No person shall knowingly cause, or attempt to cause, physical harm to an assistance dog in either of the following circumstances:

(1) The dog is assisting or serving a blind, deaf or hearing impaired, or mobility impaired person at the time the physical harm is caused or attempted.

(2) The dog is not assisting or serving a blind, deaf or hearing impaired, or mobility impaired person at the time the physical harm is caused or attempted, but the offender has actual knowledge that the dog is an assistance dog.

(D) No person shall recklessly do any of the following:

(1) Taunt, torment, or strike an assistance dog;

(2) Throw an object or substance at an assistance dog;

(3) Interfere with or obstruct an assistance dog, or interfere with or obstruct a blind, deaf or hearing impaired, or mobility impaired person who is being assisted or served by an assistance dog, in a manner that does any of the following:

(a) Inhibits or restricts the assisted or served person's control of the dog;

(b) Deprives the assisted or served person of control of the dog;

(c) Releases the dog from its area of control;

(d) Enters the area of control of the dog without the consent of the assisted or served person, including placing food or any other object or substance into that area;

(e) Inhibits or restricts the ability of the dog to assist the assisted or served person.

(4) Engage in any conduct that is likely to cause serious physical injury or death to an assistance dog;

(5) If the person is the owner, keeper, or harborer of a dog, fail to reasonably restrain the dog from taunting, tormenting, chasing, approaching in a menacing fashion or apparent attitude of attack, or attempting to bite or otherwise endanger an assistance dog that at the time of the conduct is assisting or serving a blind, deaf or hearing impaired, or mobility impaired person or that the person knows is an assistance dog.

[Patrick]

Once the dog's are given the attack command the best thing is to stop and surrender.

Had an exercise where the attacking party thought that putting down CS gas was a good joke (not briefed on use). So none of the defenders had masks.

Well the dog still went through a wall of the stuff and took one of the attackers down....... we laughed (well cried) as the dog handler had to go through and get his dog off.

One happy dog, a very CS'd dog handler and another soldier with bite marks.

Go the puppies..... :woohoo:

I heard that dogs are immune to CS... It never bothers them... Pepper spray can be different though, in most occasions... Raging pitbulls are an exception on some occasions....

[Gizzit]

No you will end up in jail. It is an offence similar to assaulting a police officer. Also dont bother their horses.. or feed any of the above.

(A) No person shall knowingly cause, or attempt to cause, physical harm to a police dog or horse in either of the following circumstances:

(1) The police dog or horse is assisting a law enforcement officer in the performance of the officer's official duties at the time the physical harm is caused or attempted. ........ SNIP ...........

Yeah ..... (thats a bit OTT for this site mate ... ) but I still reckon in reality .....

the Handler ..... is going to be CROSS !!! :shit: :Police: :laugh:

[spudchucka]

how about dropping pepper?

Don't you watch Mythbusters?

[carver]

..... SNIP .....

Once the Dog Handler has said "Rouse" ...... it's way to late to stop and surrender !! Your arse is dog tucker !!! lol :D

The time to stop and surrender is while the Dog Handler has still got the dog on the tracking harness, and has told you to stop and surrender !! Once the dog is

released ..... your arse is toast !!!! lol. :shit: :eek: :laugh:

no its not.

run toward the police dog...

see what happens

[tri boy]

run toward the police dog...

see what happens

Id pay to watch you do that.:clap:
Love all blood sports:devil2:

[Gizzit]

Id pay to watch you do that.:clap:
Love all blood sports:devil2:

What Tri boy said ....... :jerry: :laugh:

[Patrick]

no its not.

run toward the police dog...

see what happens

You've been bitten in the balls???????????????? Gotta hurt.... Poor bastard.....

[carver]

Id pay to watch you do that.:clap:
Love all blood sports:devil2:


You've been bitten in the balls???????????????? Gotta hurt.... Poor bastard.....

Alsatians are attack dogs.

i hear they run away when put on the defensive

[cs363]

Alsatians are attack dogs.

i hear they run away when put on the defensive

Wrong on all counts.

There is no such breed as an Alsatian - They are German Shepherd Dogs, Alsatian is just a name that was coined during WW2 as the 'German' tag was deemed offensive in some quarters...

As the name implies they were originally bred as working dogs and their primary role was herding sheep.
They are extremely intellingent, obedient and loyal with a very strong protective nature, hence their suitabilty for Police work.

Running at a dog that is bred to protect is highly unadvisable, however if you wish to experiment by all means be my guest....

[carver]

Wrong on all counts.

There is no such breed as an Alsatian - They are German Shepherd Dogs, Alsatian is just a name that was coined during WW2 as the 'German' tag was deemed offensive in some quarters...

As the name implies they were originally bred as working dogs and their primary role was herding sheep.
They are extremely intellingent, obedient and loyal with a very strong protective nature, hence their suitabilty for Police work.

Running at a dog that is bred to protect is highly unadvisable, however if you wish to experiment by all means be my guest....

thanks, i may test my theory some time

[cs363]

thanks, i may test my theory some time



Be sure to film it.... :lol:

[Forest]

Wrong on all counts.

There is no such breed as an Alsatian - They are German Shepherd Dogs, Alsatian is just a name that was coined during WW2 as the 'German' tag was deemed offensive in some quarters...

Coined during WW1 I think. Comes from the Alsace region between Germany and France.

[cs363]

Coined during WW1 I think. Comes from the Alsace region between Germany and France.


On reflection I think you are correct re: WW1 :) Just a tad before my time ! :laugh:

[Pussy]

On reflection I think you are correct re: WW1 :) Just a tad before my time ! :laugh:

But not much....

[cs363]

But not much....


Ah, just the man - Corporal Pussy! Tell us what what it was like in the trenches back in the Great War?
I love your WW1 stories as much as the Boer war ones, great to see an old soldier like you still riding....


:whistle: :rofl:

[Pussy]

Ah, just the man - Corporal Pussy! Tell us what what it was like in the trenches back in the Great War?
I love your WW1 stories as much as the Boer war ones, great to see an old soldier like you still riding....


:whistle: :rofl:

The Wright brothers were fairly receptive to my input, too! :msn-wink:

[cs363]

The Wright brothers were fairly receptive to my input, too! :msn-wink:

I heard they got that thing flying too, once they found a lighter pilot... :bleh:

[Patrick]

Alsatians are attack dogs.

i hear they run away when put on the defensive


thanks, i may test my theory some time

Can't believe all you hear... or read, (on KB...:Pokey:)

Boob Johnson has seen the local great white.... The back of the dog van raises once it hops out.....

Come test your theory here some time.... I will have the camera.... I know a mortician or two as well......

[cs363]

Can't believe all you hear... or read, (on KB...:Pokey:)

Boob Johnson has seen the local great white.... The back of the dog van raises once it hops out.....

Come test your theory here some time.... I will have the camera.... I know a mortician or two as well......


If this eventuates, keep us posted - me and Pussy and a few others will be down to spectate! (It's not a proper show without spectators!) :laugh: