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Metalor
7th April 2009, 23:02
Yea, so, riding out to hallertau on coatesville-riverhead highway when chain came off. Luckily it didn't lock the back wheel up and my mates were there to help get it back on.

Now I need a new sprocket set as the rear sprocket is FAAAAAAAARKED and most likely the from too.. AND it's only been 6 months since I put a new chain and sprocket set on!!

Guess that'll teach me for getting slack on my chain lubing and tightening....

LBD
7th April 2009, 23:08
Yea, so, riding out to hallertau on coatesville-riverhead highway when chain came off. Luckily it didn't lock the back wheel up and my mates were there to help get it back on.

Now I need a new sprocket set as the rear sprocket is FAAAAAAAARKED and most likely the from too.. AND it's only been 6 months since I put a new chain and sprocket set on!!

Guess that'll teach me for getting slack on my chain lubing and tightening....

And also ensure your wheels/sprockets are in line...

Yup, I holed my sump and had wheel lock up in a straight line when I was young and inexperienced

MSTRS
8th April 2009, 08:37
Guess that'll teach me for getting slack on my chain lubing and tightening....

Lack of maintenance can not only turn out to be expensive, it can be deadly. Ignore the basics at your peril.
Lesson learned?

HungusMaximist
8th April 2009, 09:19
Less beers, more bike!

MaxCannon
8th April 2009, 12:22
Mate - I'd have thought the greasing and lubing would have come natural to you.

Good to hear you are in one piece - even if that rusty old volty isn't.

FYI according to my service book the chain on the bandit is 16,000 kms old and still looks like new. Clean and lube every 1000kms + a bit of oil on it every 200-300 clicks.

tigertim20
8th April 2009, 15:01
And also ensure your wheels/sprockets are in line...

Yup, I holed my sump and had wheel lock up in a straight line when I was young and inexperienced

Done that too. was gutted! lol

The Pastor
8th April 2009, 15:06
Probably because you ride a tu250, the shop (or you!) decided a cheaper chain and sprocket set (i.e., lower spec) would be ok.

kasper
8th April 2009, 16:54
Ah, you've got to love belt drives.

--kasper

Squiggles
8th April 2009, 17:35
Ah, you've got to love belt drives.

--kasper

Yep, they make chains look cheap. :niceone:

JimO
8th April 2009, 17:38
had that happen on a bike i was test riding many years ago the joining link broke

Mully
8th April 2009, 18:29
Nothing to do with the maintenance - it's the power of the mighty Volty.

Insanity_rules
8th April 2009, 21:03
I had one jump off and jam the back wheel on my VF400F. It just ground to a halt thank god.

klingon
8th April 2009, 21:23
Yea, so, riding out to hallertau on coatesville-riverhead highway when chain came off. Luckily it didn't lock the back wheel up and my mates were there to help get it back on.

Now I need a new sprocket set as the rear sprocket is FAAAAAAAARKED and most likely the from too.. AND it's only been 6 months since I put a new chain and sprocket set on!!

Guess that'll teach me for getting slack on my chain lubing and tightening....

Aaw you should have come out to Frosty's the other week and got the full-on Volty Maintenance Session. :woohoo:

I just bought a new chain and sprockets from Cycletreads. $149 for the cheap one! :eek5: And that's not including all the free labour - Frosty had to drill out the bolt holes on the rear sprocket (because they sold me the wrong one) and shorten the chain by several links (even though Cycletreads had already shortened it... but I suspect they can't count).

The other option was $199 for them to fit it... in hindsight it would have been worth the extra $50 to let them deal with their own headaches. :pinch:

Anyway glad you and the Volty are still in one piece. They're indestructable I tell you! :niceone:

Metalor
8th April 2009, 21:53
Aaw you should have come out to Frosty's the other week and got the full-on Volty Maintenance Session. :woohoo:

I just bought a new chain and sprockets from Cycletreads. $149 for the cheap one! :eek5: And that's not including all the free labour - Frosty had to drill out the bolt holes on the rear sprocket (because they sold me the wrong one) and shorten the chain by several links (even though Cycletreads had already shortened it... but I suspect they can't count).

The other option was $199 for them to fit it... in hindsight it would have been worth the extra $50 to let them deal with their own headaches. :pinch:

Anyway glad you and the Volty are still in one piece. They're indestructable I tell you! :niceone:

Oh really? That's a pain in the arse! I had to do the same thing with the last sprocket I put on... holes were all in the wrong places, pretty hard steel too so took a while to drill through!

I just ordered some parts from bits4bikes.co.nz... o-ring chain, front and rear sprocket and brake shoes, $170 all up which isn't bad! Gonna be hard to change it all again though.

How's your volty going? Probably much better than mine :p

Next bike I wanna get is an M50... no chain to worry about, haha! (Still has annoying drum brakes though... )

Candle
8th April 2009, 22:44
your one lucky mofo bet youl use loob next time :tugger:

xwhatsit
9th April 2009, 00:10
shorten the chain by several links (even though Cycletreads had already shortened it... but I suspect they can't count).
Hahaha, they did the same with the chain I bought. Had to lop one link off. Oh well, it cost me $40 or something.

munterk6
9th April 2009, 08:08
Thats funny, my chain n sprogs have now done 26000km and still good as!
I guess thats what ya get when ya lube 'em every 500km!:scooter:

klingon
9th April 2009, 08:26
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How's your volty going? Probably much better than mine :p



Yeah mine's going great! I obviously know when to use lube! :bleh:

xwhatsit
9th April 2009, 09:46
Thats funny, my chain n sprogs have now done 26000km and still good as!
I guess thats what ya get when ya lube 'em every 500km!:scooter:
It's more to do with you riding a multi. Four cylinders are very smooth and a modern bike like yours will have good quality cush drive in the sprocket and/or clutch. A little single, despite the lack of grunt, hammers the shit out of the chain with the `tat tat tat' of the engine. If the tension isn't 100% correct (because this numpty didn't keep up with it) then the effect is magnified as the chain snaps tight.

Cush drives also have a big impact on chain wear; between the CB250RSA and the CB250RSD they changed the rear hub to include a proper cush drive. Massive improvement in chain life between models. Didn't stop a previous owner of my bike from neglecting the chain hence there's massive gouging all around to the left of the sprocket where the hub slightly protrudes.

Is that the Volty I often see going up and down Parnell Rd, Metalor?

MSTRS
9th April 2009, 10:49
It's more to do with you riding a multi.

Sounds fine, in theory. What would happen if a decent specced chain was used on a small single? Not often you will find crap chains on a 'large' bike

MarkH
9th April 2009, 11:09
Yeah mine's going great! I obviously know when to use lube! :bleh:

Not using lube can be a pain in the arse.

discotex
9th April 2009, 16:43
Thats funny, my chain n sprogs have now done 26000km and still good as!
I guess thats what ya get when ya lube 'em every 500km!:scooter:

I lube mine every 3000km (between services) now. Chain wears just the same.

Over winter I'll lube it more frequently because of all the water.

I think if anything it's more important to keep the tension correct as a loose chain will wear faster.

lankyman
10th April 2009, 09:13
So did a linkage break? because you would think a chain would have to be incredibly loose to just fall of a sprocket. Like, very noticably loose. Like, how the fuck was your stupidly loose chain not annoying the shit out of you?

Metalor
10th April 2009, 09:19
So did a linkage break? because you would think a chain would have to be incredibly loose to just fall of a sprocket. Like, very noticably loose. Like, how the fuck was your stupidly loose chain not annoying the shit out of you?


I dunno, didn't annoy me at all... the sprocket was the most fucked I've had on the volty. It came off as I pulled the gas on leaning out from a stop at an intersection.

Metalor
10th April 2009, 09:20
It's more to do with you riding a multi. Four cylinders are very smooth and a modern bike like yours will have good quality cush drive in the sprocket and/or clutch. A little single, despite the lack of grunt, hammers the shit out of the chain with the `tat tat tat' of the engine. If the tension isn't 100% correct (because this numpty didn't keep up with it) then the effect is magnified as the chain snaps tight.

Cush drives also have a big impact on chain wear; between the CB250RSA and the CB250RSD they changed the rear hub to include a proper cush drive. Massive improvement in chain life between models. Didn't stop a previous owner of my bike from neglecting the chain hence there's massive gouging all around to the left of the sprocket where the hub slightly protrudes.

Is that the Volty I often see going up and down Parnell Rd, Metalor?

Well you seem to know what you're talking about so I'll take your word for it!

And yep, that's me! I'm usually trying to avoid all the cock impatient drivers on that road :)

Metalor
10th April 2009, 09:21
And to all the luber jokers... you're getting me so excited I wont even NEED any lube!

But I will definitely be using some every week.

Metalor
10th April 2009, 18:28
So.... $290 later I have new front/rear sprocket, new o-ring chain and new rear brake shoes. Now I just need a new rear tyre.... Bike's running wquite nicely now though, got a good run out the back of Helensville ways today!

Max Preload
14th April 2009, 10:14
Jesus H. Christ. :thud:

The chain must have been damn near dragging on the ground and the play would have resulted in phenomenal drivetrain snatch. How could you not notice?

Tank
14th April 2009, 10:20
Bikes do need more attention than the 'ol cage.

Chains need to be checked. As do brakes, tyres (including pressure), cables and so on.

If you fail to do very basic checks and maintenance on your bike you are asking for trouble. Sounds like you got it.

Its always cheaper and safer to fix a problem before it happens.

gearhead
18th April 2009, 10:44
nice. i have 17,000 miles on my tu250x with the original chain :headbang:

Grant`
18th April 2009, 19:44
Experienced or not is there any real way to deal with a chain coming off the bike ? Other than try and hang on for dear life ?

Its not even something i have considered happening allthough i do make sure i check the tension and have a scottoiler to keep it nice and lubricated.

xwhatsit
18th April 2009, 22:25
Yeah, sounds frightening, not like you can pull in the clutch. Never mind having the thing whipping around near your left foot!