Mounting Cnut Hill - Sat 9/5

[Woodman]

As Mark said, a good rider on a dirt bike would piss up it. You need lots of suspension and momentum.

With our type of bikes, you need a little bit of luck. You have to pick your track carefully and zigzag up the clear sections. One mistake, and you end up amongst the big rocks, drop to the seat, and risk flipping or getting spat off the side of the track.

Gimme another go...........

bart that sounds very like you are in control. Surely if you just nail it at the bottom you will (should) end up at the top somehow or other.

[bart]

bart that sounds very like you are in control. Surely if you just nail it at the bottom you will (should) end up at the top somehow or other.

Few blind corners on the way up. Not easy to pick a track. After half a dozen runs you'd have the track memorized, if you still had the energy left.

By the way, I broke my screen with my chest (no not my beer belly). I was leaning over the bars that far.

Not trying to put anyone off. When's the next attempt.

[marks]

When's the next attempt.

next free weekend for me is 19th/20th Sept

[merv]

when are you going to come on a ride Merv - its seems like ages.

Yeah been busy wrapping up my Bro's estate so haven't been around much, its so bad our bikes are all running out of WOF's so might take a couple in this week. However, weeks ahead aren't much better getting tied up with rellies, then off to UK/Europe again to catch up with daughter in Zurich.

However, if you showed me the pics of the waitress I might have reason to change my plans.

[_STAIN_]

Yeah been busy wrapping up my Bro's estate so haven't been around much, its so bad our bikes are all running out of WOF's so might take a couple in this week. However, weeks ahead aren't much better getting tied up with rellies, then off to UK/Europe again to catch up with daughter in Zurich.

However, if you showed me the pics of the waitress I might have reason to change my plans.

Merv come for a ride with us

[Paladin]

Merv come for a ride with us

Yum! Can I have one of those for the weekend please sir?

:drool::drool::drool:

[dino3310]

Yum! Can I have one of those for the weekend please sir?

:drool::drool::drool:

yeah mate, tell her to bring a friend or 2- thats what i call real adventure riding:lol:

[Paladin]

yeah mate, tell her to bring a friend or 2- thats what i call real adventure riding:lol:

i can see you're on my wavelength bro!

:woohoo:

[junkmanjoe]

where did you get that photo of my misses mate...

[NordieBoy]

I have been both up and down this on the Pampera a few years ago. It was badly rutted in places but unless it has deteriorated markedly I do not recall it being as steep or loose as CNUT hill appears.

Very markedly...
It's the large loose rocks that spoil it.

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/Trips/20090206%20Havlocking%20around/slides/20090206-144052-000012.jpg

Woody managed to break a blinker and gouge his bashplate without falling off :D

[Paladin]

Very markedly...
It's the large loose rocks that spoil it.


Woody managed to break a blinker and gouge his bashplate without falling off :D

Ooh that's a nasty lookin bit of track mate! Bit of practice makin vicious directional changes at speed ( ;) ) on that will do ya nicely for a Cnut Hill attempt when the Norf Island Invasion Ride happens(?????) OR maybe we'll add SutherlandsHut/Cnut Hill into the SCAR2 in Feb!!!!

p.s. I'm a right nana so I wouldn't go up, let alone down that thing - fair play to you and Woody for ridin that track! It looks nasty as!!!

[topo]

Bit of a thread hi-jack, but while on the subject of steep hills here's a little gem (may have posted a similar pic a year or so ago).

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn175/topo-t-south/otogo%2008/Picture449.jpg


On a different note i'm keen for a NI invasion sometime before the new year, have a crack at this little hill of yours:yes:

[junkmanjoe]

Ohh NA cant have a southern lad knock the bastard off.....:woohoo:

[Paladin]

Ohh NA cant have a southern lad knock the bastard off.....:woohoo:

It'll be knocked off WELL before they get up here mate, don't worry bout it! AndyMac will prob nip up there mid week on the new toy just to show us all up!

:gob:

Failing that(!), between Bryce, Bart, Mark, & Gav all gunning to be first up it, I'd say that cnut of a hill is on borrowed time now!

Now if someone would attach a grader blade to their bike to groom the slope, those of us with 15T fronts and worn rear tyres (and pink undies LOL!) could head up too!

;)

[marks]

first practice session to improve my cnut riding kills is on Saturday going down and then hopefully back up the rock garden (http://tracks.org.nz/track/show/282) that joins the devils staircase. (http://tracks.org.nz/track/show/283)

If you don't hear from me again its because I couldn't get it up......

[bart]

first practice session to improve my cnut riding kills is on Saturday going down and then hopefully back up the rock garden (http://tracks.org.nz/track/show/282) that joins the devils staircase. (http://tracks.org.nz/track/show/283)

If you don't hear from me again its because I couldn't get it up......

Nice.............almost got stuck down there on my DR350 a few years ago. I wouldn't recommend it in the wet. Are you going down the staircase???

[marks]

Nice.............almost got stuck down there on my DR350 a few years ago. I wouldn't recommend it in the wet. Are you going down the staircase???

I'm assuming that its too wet to go down the staircase - I didn't think the rock garden would have been affected by rain too much???? (I've never been down the staircase and only part way down/up the rock garden)

how would you compare it to cnut?

[dino3310]

It'll be knocked off WELL before they get up here mate, don't worry bout it! AndyMac will prob nip up there mid week on the new toy just to show us all up!

:gob:

Failing that(!), between Bryce, Bart, Mark, & Gav all gunning to be first up it, I'd say that cnut of a hill is on borrowed time now!

Now if someone would attach a grader blade to their bike to groom the slope, those of us with 15T fronts and worn rear tyres (and pink undies LOL!) could head up too!

;)

you fellas are lucky im so busy at work if i wasnt i'd be down there to spoil your party

[bart]

I'm assuming that its too wet to go down the staircase - I didn't think the rock garden would have been affected by rain too much???? (I've never been down the staircase and only part way down/up the rock garden)

how would you compare it to cnut?

The Rock Garden and Devils Staircase are pretty much as their name suggests. Lots of short sharp drop offs. Plenty of bolders. Half way down the Rock Garden you'll be wondering what the hell you've got youself into. When you come back up, these magical little tracks will appear off to the side of the track and aid you in getting up. It's not as bad as it looks. :rockon:

The Devils Staircase is papa clay instead of rocks. I would only try this in mid summer when it's real dry. I've been up a little way from the bottom, and down about half way from the top. This is on my 'to do' list.:woohoo:

Compared to Cnut.......the Rock Garden is a lot of short sharp technical bits, with small breathers in between. Cnut is more like 90 seconds of wind on the throttle and see what happens. No breathers. You could fluke a good run and make it.:gob:

Have a go. You'll gain more skills in half an hour of riding in that area, than you would in six months of riding to Toppies and back.:innocent:

[andy mac]

first practice session to improve my cnut riding kills is on Saturday going down and then hopefully back up the rock garden (http://tracks.org.nz/track/show/282) that joins the devils staircase. (http://tracks.org.nz/track/show/283)

If you don't hear from me again its because I couldn't get it up......

Mark I'm keen for an Akatarawa ride on Saturday, but maybe not the Rock Garden for my first weekend on the WRR. What bike were you intending to ride?

[marks]

Mark I'm keen for an Akatarawa ride on Saturday, but maybe not the Rock Garden for my first weekend on the WRR. What bike were you intending to ride?

My son and I will be on trail bikes. We'll get up to the car park by the 4wd centre on the Pram side 10.30-11 on Sat morning and head over to the Karapoti side to go up to the rock garden.

You'd be welcome to join us - just be aware that it is super greasy in there at the moment.

[Box'a'bits]

You'd be welcome to join us - just be aware that it is super greasy in there at the moment.

Andy's on Trailwings, so that should work in your favour. :clap:

[bart]

I'd heard a rumour about an alternate route up the Devils Staircase side. Me and a mate spent about an hour riding up and down the riverbed looking for it, but all the tracks we found were dead ends. Certainly worth looking into if you have time.

I am so tempted to throw the knobs on the DRZ and come down for a look. Shame the bike's all nice and shiny, and I can't be buggered cleaning it again.

[marks]

Andy's on Trailwings, so that should work in your favour. :clap:

I'll take any advantage I can get :rolleyes:

when I went through last Saturday with Fred I spent more time going sideways than straight ahead and I was riding like a nanna and had good knobblies on

[andy mac]

My son and I will be on trail bikes. We'll get up to the car park by the 4wd centre on the Pram side 10.30-11 on Sat morning and head over to the Karapoti side to go up to the rock garden.

You'd be welcome to join us - just be aware that it is super greasy in there at the moment.

OK will meet you at carpark before 11.

[marks]

I'd heard a rumour about an alternate route up the Devils Staircase side. Me and a mate spent about an hour riding up and down the riverbed looking for it, but all the tracks we found were dead ends. Certainly worth looking into if you have time.

I am so tempted to throw the knobs on the DRZ and come down for a look. Shame the bike's all nice and shiny, and I can't be buggered cleaning it again.

I've heard the same rumours - from people who know what they are talking about.

keep the drz - then you can have a trail bike and an adventure bike


OK will meet you at carpark before 11.

I'll post here by 9.30 if the weather is bad.


cheers

Mark

[bart]

keep the drz - then you can have a trail bike and an adventure bike


Nah, if I was going to have a trail bike, it would be a bit hornier than a drz. Maybe a WR450. Hmmmmmm. That would do.

Or a CR500.

[Pampera]

My son and I will be on trail bikes. We'll get up to the car park by the 4wd centre on the Pram side 10.30-11 on Sat morning and head over to the Karapoti side to go up to the rock garden.

You'd be welcome to join us - just be aware that it is super greasy in there at the moment.


Mark,

I am preparing the bike and gear and also plan to see you at the car park before 1100.

Michael

[marks]

Mark,

I am preparing the bike and gear and also plan to see you at the car park before 1100.

Michael

great

we'll be at the carpark before 11 but will then need some time to unload and gear up so will prolly be ready to ride around 11ish

look forward to seeing you guys there

[Pampera]

Grand day out in the Akatarawas courtesy of Mark S. Rode the Pampera out from Wellington via a stop at the Paekakariki Cafe to get wired up with the help of an espresso. Mark and his son Glenn were already busy unloading at the Maungakotukutuku car park at 1045. The promised Andy Mac on his new WR250R, was late but leaving with no sign of him yet at 1115 we knew he would catch us up before long, which he did.

Weather was cool and overcast but the clouds lifted and it warmed up as the day progressed.

There was some very slippery stuff, loose hills and ruts, but we made it to the Rock Garden by 1.30. That clay must have oil in it in some spots! Unfortunately after dropping down two of the steps we began to wonder if we would be able to return the way we had come. The only exit from the bottom of the Rock Garden is to climb the slippery Devil's Staircase or return the way you came. Mark sent Glenn down the third drop off to see what it was like coming back up (that is what 20 year olds on MX bikes are for) but a general decision was reached that, due to a lack of intestinal fortitude, that was enough for today - perhaps in summer!

We parted at Price's Flat. I turned left and exited via Karapoti while Glen, Andy and Mark headed back whence we had come that morning.

160 km on a 250 Pampera's seat has left me tired but satisfied. Thanks for a great day out guys.
1. Andy's new WR250
2. One of many rests - this one on Pram Track above Price's Flat
3. Mark and the third drop off (The Hillary Step?) at the Rock Garden
4. Sizing up the third drop off - Glenn's the only one to try this one
5. Straightening Glen's handlebars after leaving the Rock Garden - getting back up that step was not completely trouble free!


Michael

[Pampera]

Mark ordering Andy to stay down there and move those rocks from the line....

[topo]

Mark ordering Andy to stay down there and move those rocks from the line....

Thats bloody cheating:Oi::nono:

[bart]

Good stuff guys. Full marks for trying. Looks bloody greasy. I've almost spent the night in that gully unvolentarily. Try again in summer.

[andy mac]

:woohoo: Yip a top ride with a variety of track conditions. Bravo to Glen for showing us how to ride up that nasty rock face, which then inspired Mark to also give it a go. They both stayed upright & we applauded the brave. I have a video, how do I post it?

[andy mac]

Playing in Cedarholm Creek. Not enough light + fast bikes.

[marks]

I have a video, how do I post it?
create a free account on youtube and you can upload it there and then link it here.

was a great ride :yes:

[marks]

Mark ordering Andy to stay down there and move those rocks from the line....

no rocks were harmed during this ride

I was merely suggesting where Andy could lie down and improve the traction for the rest of us :blink:

[marks]

Good stuff guys. Full marks for trying. Looks bloody greasy. I've almost spent the night in that gully unvolentarily. Try again in summer.

The ride from Karapoti to the top of the Rock Garden is awesome and doable by bigger adv bikes. I will organize something when things dry out a bit. Easily in the class of Sutherlands Hut etc. Paraparaumu - Rock Garden - Paraparaumu took 5 hours so it could be a full day on a bigger bike. Woohooo :Punk:

We'll also organize a proper Paraparaumu - Devils Staircase - Rock Garden - Karapoti - Paraparaumu loop for the smaller bikes when its a bit dryer :yes:

Bart - get a decent trail bke (come down and try the WR)

[Paladin]

Looks like you guys had an absolute blast - that track looks awesome!

So what were the thoughts on the Devils Staircase, did you get close enough to get any pics of that?

How was the run from Katapoti up through Deadwood to the top of the Rock Garden?

[marks]

Looks like you guys had an absolute blast - that track looks awesome!

So what were the thoughts on the Devils Staircase, did you get close enough to get any pics of that?

How was the run from Katapoti up through Deadwood to the top of the Rock Garden?


will leave the staircase untill summer

the run from Katapoti up through Deadwood to the top of the Rock Garden is adv bikeable and is some of the besr riding in the mungatooks

here's Andys video of the rock garden itself
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[Padmei]

When you talk about the rockgarden & devils staircase are you talking about te same ones that make up part of the Karapoti MTB Classic?

If so I assume also that you are taking about going down the devils staircase??

[marks]

When you talk about the rockgarden & devils staircase are you talking about te same ones that make up part of the Karapoti MTB Classic?
yup


If so I assume also that you are taking about going down the devils staircase??
On trail bikes in summer :yes:

On an adv bike the ride to the top of the rock garden from the Karapoti end and back(no staircase :no:) would be challenging enough

[Pampera]

Looks like you guys had an absolute blast - that track looks awesome!

So what were the thoughts on the Devils Staircase, did you get close enough to get any pics of that?

How was the run from Katapoti up through Deadwood to the top of the Rock Garden?

Dave,

We did not get anywhere near Devil's Staircase.

Generally the Deadwood Road is similar in its characteristics to the Pram Track. Not so much of the unusually slippery clay you find in places on the Pram Track. Some areas are actually in and under regenerating bush and there are areas of good gravel road or track near Price’s Flat (where the Karapoti Road comes in). Some very wet areas but again not as slippery as Pram Track. However there are some loose and steep slopes at the Rock Garden end of the road – enough to require I focus a bit even on the Pampera. Overall nothing harder than Odlin’s Road I would say. Once you get to the Rock Garden it is another story, this has some technical challenges requiring some level of skill but more importantly some confidence. My bike could have easily dealt with going up the steps we came across by approaching them at a running speed with a light throttle opening, it was the rider - still feeling sore from the last time he hit the ground hard 3 months ago - who was lacking (courage!) in this. Perhaps next time.

Michael

[bart]

Nice vid Mark. Looks almost as nasty as I remember it.

Looking back through my photos, and stumbled across these. Me and a mate went down the Rock Garden and tried to go up the Devils Staircase. We were stumped at the first obstacle, as the second and third pictures show. The first picture shows one of the awesome tracks at the bottom. :wari:

We had a hell of a job getting back up the Rock Garden. :shit:

[Paladin]

will leave the staircase untill summer

the run from Katapoti up through Deadwood to the top of the Rock Garden is adv bikeable and is some of the besr riding in the mungatooks

here's Andys video of the rock garden itself


Looks an interesting challenge for sure! :)


Dave,

We did not get anywhere near Devil's Staircase.

Generally the Deadwood Road is similar in its characteristics to the Pram Track. Not so much of the unusually slippery clay you find in places on the Pram Track. Some areas are actually in and under regenerating bush and there are areas of good gravel road or track near Price’s Flat (where the Karapoti Road comes in). Some very wet areas but again not as slippery as Pram Track. However there are some loose and steep slopes at the Rock Garden end of the road – enough to require I focus a bit even on the Pampera. Overall nothing harder than Odlin’s Road I would say. Once you get to the Rock Garden it is another story, this has some technical challenges requiring some level of skill but more importantly some confidence. My bike could have easily dealt with going up the steps we came across by approaching them at a running speed with a light throttle opening, it was the rider - still feeling sore from the last time he hit the ground hard 3 months ago - who was lacking (courage!) in this. Perhaps next time.

Michael

Good to know, cheers! Funnily enough I was just looking at the Akatarawa Forest map on Friday evening for a possible nose up Deadwood Rd on Saturday but I hadn't twigged you guys were headed in to the Rock Garden from there, had just presumed you were going up Titi Rd! As it turned out, Ben just fancied a blat on the road so no side trips, but looks/sounds fun for another time!


Nice vid Mark. Looks almost as nasty as I remember it.

Looking back through my photos, and stumbled across these. Me and a mate went down the Rock Garden and tried to go up the Devils Staircase. We were stumped at the first obstacle, as the second and third pictures show. The first picture shows one of the awesome tracks at the bottom. :wari:

We had a hell of a job getting back up the Rock Garden. :shit:

Those pics just scare the bejeezuz out of me just looking at them!
:shit:

[marks]

Anyone keen for another shot at Cnut?

The DT is broked so I can't do this weekend so my next opportunity would be the weekend of 10th/11th October (either day)

would anyone be interested in having a(nother) go?

some photos of previous attempt are here (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10690875&postcount=463)

[junkmanjoe]

sure you don't mean October, unless you got a time machine...

[marks]

sure you don't mean October, unless you got a time machine...

D'oh :doh:

[bart]

Little Bart turns 2 that weekend. May not work for me. I'll have to ask Mrs Bart

[marks]

Little Bart turns 2 that weekend. May not work for me. I'll have to ask Mrs Bart

where are your priorities FFS?

would the following weekend work better for you?

[Eddieb]

Little Bart turns 2 that weekend. May not work for me. I'll have to ask Mrs Bart

Shouldn't that be Littler Bart?

[NordieBoy]

Shouldn't that be Littler Bart?

He shoots... and scores!

:2thumbsup

[junkmanjoe]

when you chaps decide on a weekend...i wana come in from the coast side..

[_STAIN_]

when you chaps decide on a weekend...i wana come in from the coast side..

chicken...

[junkmanjoe]

just call me chicken, one more time............................................

[_STAIN_]

just call me chicken, one more time............................................

bok bok bok

ok I'll come and help you bulldog the supertanker down cnut

[junkmanjoe]

right thats it...you better make it this time....as the slut will be right up your arse......:buggerd:

[bart]

Shit Joe, you're one of the two people who've actually made it to the top.

Haha

[marks]

Shit Joe, you're one of the two people who've actually made it to the top.

Haha

so which weekend can you do???

[_STAIN_]

Shit Joe, you're one of the two people who've actually made it to the top.

Haha

yip if I can't make it up Bart's way this time, I'll do it Joe's way

[junkmanjoe]

at least my bike wasnt broken, or shit its clutch..:girlfight:

[bart]

OK fookers, pick any day but the 10th of Oct, and I'm in.

[marks]

at least my bike wasnt broken, or shit its clutch..:girlfight:

feeling a little defensive are we..... :yes:

you've got the right bike and the skills - you could get up there

it does have to be said that the hill is a little hard on bikes. I've spent over $200 on parts for the DT just to try and get it running right again - it was pretty sick by the time I got home that night.

[marks]

OK fookers, pick any day but the 10th of Oct, and I'm in.

the 11th would be fine by me if that works for everyone else??

Mr Stain? Mr Bok Bok Bok? - what say you gents?

[bart]

the 11th would be fine by me if that works for everyone else??

Mr Stain? Mr Bok Bok Bok? - what say you gents?

Lets go monster the fucker.

[junkmanjoe]

game on bitch.... lets knock the cnut off for good this time...:2thumbsup

[_STAIN_]

the 11th would be fine by me if that works for everyone else??

Mr Stain? Mr Bok Bok Bok? - what say you gents?

yeah I'm with Bok Bok, lets knock it off from the top down to the bottom this time

[bart]

Bugger.......talking to Mrs Bart, and that weekend's out of the question.

You guys go if you want. I'll get back in there some time.:weep::mad:

[junkmanjoe]

oh whos the bok bok now.....mum got ya keys aye bartman...:blink:

[junkmanjoe]

so you guys keen to go in and when we go down the cnut part...we could do a u turn and try go back up........yea .....na....yea....na.....yea....then we could go to toppys and perv at her fat tits....:shit:....:done:

[bart]

oh whos the bok bok now.....mum got ya keys aye bartman...:blink:

She'll have a bit more than my keys if I go that weekend.

Does the name Bobbitt mean anything to ya.:innocent::love::shutup:

[junkmanjoe]

it is docking season..:blink:...be carefull there mate............:shit:

[marks]

so you guys keen to go in and when we go down the cnut part...we could do a u turn and try go back up........yea .....na....yea....na.....yea....then we could go to toppys and perv at her fat tits....:shit:....:done:

Ummm

given that there seems more interest in doing it from the coast to the hut and given the Bobbits inability to attend I'll put on my pink petticoat and join with the masses....

Are you happy organizing everything Joe?

[junkmanjoe]

yup i put my name on the paper and source the key so we settle on the weekend you have decided.

mark we could add the nasty little beach section on the way around from the lake ferry pub....

[junkmanjoe]

yeah I'm with Bok Bok, lets knock it off from the top down to the bottom this time

im hopeing this is not my new nick mane....:no:

[marks]

yup i put my name on the paper and source the key so we settle on the weekend you have decided.

mark we could add the nasty little beach section on the way around from the lake ferry pub....

the beach section would be cool - good warm up detour.

[marks]

slight fookup on the timing front

My Brother is over from Singapore for the weekend of the 10th/11th so I'm out unless the following weekend (17th/18th) works for everyone was was going to go????

[NordieBoy]

slight fookup on the timing front

My Brother is over from Singapore for the weekend of the 10th/11th so I'm out unless the following weekend (17th/18th) works for everyone was was going to go????

Havn't you got a spare bike for him?

[marks]

Havn't you got a spare bike for him?

yes

but he's primarily a road rider and cnut might be a bit much for him

[NordieBoy]

yes

but he's primarily a road rider and cnut might be a bit much for him

It's a bit much for most by the sound of it :D

[junkmanjoe]

oh well who ever wants to go through..sort out a free weekend for all.

im not to worried when we do it. try find a fine weekend...


JMJ

[bart]

slight fookup on the timing front

My Brother is over from Singapore for the weekend of the 10th/11th so I'm out unless the following weekend (17th/18th) works for everyone was was going to go????

Works for me :2thumbsup

[andy mac]

Sunday 18th works best for me.

[marks]

Sunday 18th works best for me.

OK with 18th

Joe - does this work for you?
If so would you be able to sort out a key?

Plan being to come in from the coast. Go down cnut and for the hard boys to come back up and possibly exit via the coast again?

I do believe bigger bikes may struggle going down cnut (I wouldn't take the klr down there) so maybe the bigger bikes may want to turn around at the top of cnut and return to coast?

open to suggestions

I just want to get up that friggin hill

[junkmanjoe]

ummmmmmmmmmmm............................if i still got a bike.......
is this next sunday..

[bart]

ummmmmmmmmmmm............................if i still got a bike.......
is this next sunday..

Bring that shovel I saw you with yesterday Joe :2thumbsup:whistle:

[marks]

ummmmmmmmmmmm............................if i still got a bike.......
is this next sunday..

not this Sunday but the following one.

you are not allowed to sell your gaymobile before then

[Woodman]

gaymobile

:clap::clap::clap:................................

[Box'a'bits]

:clap::clap::clap:................................

Sort of like the 2 pots calling the kettle black....:clap::clap::rolleyes:

[_STAIN_]

I just want to get up that friggin hill

bring that 450 and I'll show ya how
Oh no that right Moto GP & beer sunday afternoon...won't see me :(

[marks]

bring that 450 and I'll show ya how

the 450 would be cheating

there is something important about getting up the hill on the bike you rode all the way there on....

[gav24]

Sorry, coming in late on this one. When is the next assault on the hill? Next weekend?

Its just too tempting... I wanna give this one a go:first:

- Just hoping that next weekend stays free...
....and dry!

[marks]

Sorry, coming in late on this one. When is the next assault on the hill? Next weekend?

Its just too tempting... I wanna give this one a go:first:

- Just hoping that next weekend stays free...
....and dry!

Sunday 18th

prolly meet at Toppy's at 9.30?

we'll have to come up with 2 options

1/ if we get the key - in which case we can go in from the coast
2/ if we can't get the key - in which case we'll go in from Sutherlands hut.

I'm quite comfortable with option 2 as IF we get up the top of Cnut we can ride to the coast and then retrace our steps - which makes for much less road miles than looping out to the coast and coming through the gate back in.

That is a fairly big IF though.

I'll prolly leave Pram about 8ish and go via the Aka's (resisting the strong temptation to turn left at the summit)

I did some pre-ride hill climbing testing on the DT yesterday....

<img src=http://webcoda.com/images/bike/SDC10581-640.jpg>

the rear indicators werent impressed

[Paladin]

And I thought I was hard on indicators!

:eek5:

[JATZ]

And I thought I was hard on indicators!

:eek5:


:wavey: Paladin

[marks]

lets assume at this stage that Joe wont be able to get a key (he hopefully will be bikeless by then)

So, unless someone can come up with something better how about the following as a loose plan.

Meet at Toppys at 9.30 Sunday for a leisurely coffee and perv.

Head in to Sutherlands Hut and maybe chomp a sandwich there (The stream might be up a bit which will add to the fun)

Blast up cnut

Ride out to the locked gate at the coast

Retrace our steps and have more coffee at Toppys

If we can't get up the hill we can faff around on some of the side tracks near Sutherlands Hut.

So whos coming??
Me
Andy?
Bart?
Gav?
Michael?

anyone else?

[bart]

Blast up cnut

Ride out to the locked gate at the coast


Don't know about you guys, but this is my plan. :headbang:

[bart]

Just playing around with google thingy.

This is a rough idea of how steep this bloody thing is. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like about 160 metres of elevation in just over 400 metres. This is with a loose rock surface, and after a steep climb of about 300m from the riverbed. :gob:

Ahhhh........I love this shit :clap:

[andy mac]

I'm getting too lazy to play with that google technology. On Sunday I will just adjust my goggles & say that cnut hill was f'ing steep.
Michael what time are you leaving home?

[Pampera]

I had better enjoy this one because in the future it is going to cost just a touch over $5000 per year to register my motorcycles (and scooter).

The levy increases proposed are for the ACC component only, add the other levies and then add GST:

126 - 600 cc bike = $612.33 to register
601 and over $875.96

Perhaps I will bring my own eats and wait for the rest of you outside Toppy's.

Michael

[bart]

The levy increases proposed are for the ACC component only, add the other levies and then add GST:

126 - 600 cc bike = $612.33 to register
601 and over $875.96


I was just working out how many times I've been pulled over by a cop in the last 5 years. Ummmmmmmmmmmmm............zero.

You can guess what I'm going to do if the new ACC bullshit goes through. :motu:

43 f'ing horsepower, and lumped into the same group as 170hp rice rockets. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhh

[Box'a'bits]

I'm intending to come in as far as Cnut Hill. Assuming that the weather cooperates. Still supoosed to be crappy Sunday. :baby:

[NordieBoy]

43 f'ing horsepower, and lumped into the same group as 170hp rice rockets. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhh

Closer to 35hp at the wheel.

[pampa]

So, is this next Sunday 18.09.09?

:Playnice:

lets assume at this stage that Joe wont be able to get a key (he hopefully will be bikeless by then)

So, unless someone can come up with something better how about the following as a loose plan.

Meet at Toppys at 9.30 Sunday for a leisurely coffee and perv.

Head in to Sutherlands Hut and maybe chomp a sandwich there (The stream might be up a bit which will add to the fun)

Blast up cnut

Ride out to the locked gate at the coast

Retrace our steps and have more coffee at Toppys

If we can't get up the hill we can faff around on some of the side tracks near Sutherlands Hut.

So whos coming??
Me
Andy?
Bart?
Gav?
Michael?

anyone else?

[andy mac]

So, is this next Sunday 18.09.09?

:Playnice:

Yes Pampa, Sunday 18 October.

[Eddieb]

I'm intending to come in as far as Cnut Hill. Assuming that the weather cooperates. Still supoosed to be crappy Sunday. :baby:

I might look out the window when I wake and see what the weather is doing. If it's fine and I can be bothered I might bring the PD in to the Hut.

[gav24]

I might look out the window when I wake and see what the weather is doing. If it's fine and I can be bothered I might bring the PD in to the Hut.

Snap - still sulking about the weather, and now the ACC levies. :buggerd:
Maybe we could ask the National government to get ACC contributions from Horses and trampolines, both of these cost ACC more than bikes! Bet those National voters are glad for their "change" that they voted for, not even going to mention those tax cuts :Pokey:

[pampa]

Thanks ... i may go
will bring my 599cc bike doh!


Yes Pampa, Sunday 18 October.

[Woodman]

I had better enjoy this one because in the future it is going to cost just a touch over $5000 per year to register my motorcycles (and scooter).

The levy increases proposed are for the ACC component only, add the other levies and then add GST:

126 - 600 cc bike = $612.33 to register
601 and over $875.96

Perhaps I will bring my own eats and wait for the rest of you outside Toppy's.

Michael

Why not register the rider/ cos you can only crash one at a time.

[andy mac]

Cnut prepartion - new knobbly fitted last night, I hope it's still got air this morning. And will try to swap the smaller front sprocket tonight.
Rain is forecast for Sunday morning so will be going trailer trash with James & his RMX250. :dodge: CU at Toppys.

[Pampera]

Why not register the rider/ cos you can only crash one at a time.

That is what I think too.

In fact now we are on a roll we could go one better and request the option to be able to pay the premium only as you crash - using internet banking on a cellphone! :mobile:
Damn - no coverage!
Michael

[Pampera]

Rain is forecast for Sunday morning so will be going trailer trash with James & his RMX250. :dodge: CU at Toppys.

As much as this dilutes Mark's purity (ride up what you rode over) I too plan to bring the little bike over on some other wheels, in Thunderbird 2.2. I can be pretty certain I am not going to make it up even on the Pampera. I bet I bottle out BEFORE losing it.
Michael

[bart]

I'm just about to go prep the stealth bomber which means ummmmmm..........oil the chain I guess. I might go all out and check the tyre pressure as well.

Shit if you guys are trailering, and getting serious, I might have to bring the DRZ.

[buggsubique]

Thanks ... i may go
will bring my 599cc bike doh!

I would but I'm back in Blen this weekend. Desperate to visit this cnutty hill place! Bringing the XRV back over for the long weekend next weekend and will be fitting my new cylinder sleeves and pistons to downsize it to 599cc... :oi-grr: They're magic ones that allow you to keep the same HP with a smaller capacity! Got em free. I'll show ya'll once I'm done.

[Padmei]

Pampera I tried to find a list of your bikes but not on your profile. Please fill us in.

[marks]

I'm just about to go prep the stealth bomber which means ummmmmm..........oil the chain I guess. I might go all out and check the tyre pressure as well.

Shit if you guys are trailering, and getting serious, I might have to bring the DRZ.

bring the drz and leave the bland-mobile in the shed

I don't want trailer trash Andy to feel the odd one out so I'll trailer the DT (will leave the car near Toppy's).

Joe was hopefully going to post a weather report early tomorrow morning.

[Paladin]

Pampera I tried to find a list of your bikes but not on your profile. Please fill us in.

There's not enough space on the KB server for that list!
:2thumbsup

[junkmanjoe]

well at the moment we got thunder lighting and very heavy rain...so creeks will be up and it will be very slippery in there..

[Pampera]

Pampera I tried to find a list of your bikes but not on your profile. Please fill us in.

Should be - perhaps viewing is restricted to "friends" or something.

1982 RD350LC (bought in 1985 when I was exactly half my current age - only transport for a number of years - can't believe we went all over the place two up with tank bag and throwover panniers!)
1982 BMW R100CS - as a trusted long term R bike owner I was told to buy it a year ago by the local BMW mechanic, as it needed rescuing - looks cosmetically rough but best running flat twin I have ever owned and complete right down to the OEM tyre pump and locking cable.
1992 BMW R100RS
1996 DR350SE - "Merv's" late bro's
2003 Gas Gas Pampera 250 - bought new
2007 BMW F650GSD (my second)
2007 Vespa GTS250ie bought new and used pretty much every day.

For me personally view five bikes is really the absolute max (less better) and I am a bit embarrassed with seven, but the opportunity with the DR and being "required" to buy the CS put me over at the start of 2009 and I cannot agree with myself which two to sell.

About half the value of the fleet is made up by the two 2007 machines and totals only about what a reasonably fancy Ducati would cost, but when you get over five the work of keeping up on services goes beyond being enjoyable and you don't use them enough to "bond". I should really sell the two R bikes but...........

Still there are people around the world as I write with much tougher decisions to make than what consumer durable to sell - like "where is my next meal coming from?"

Pampera is in the van ready for CNUT - got soaked in a thundery downpour that arrived when it was half in and half out! Still, harsh language sorted that one out. I wonder if we will even get through the streams to the hut (he says hoping he gets a chance to bottle out with honour before we stand facing the Hillary Step!).

Michael

[marks]

bikes all loaded on the trailer and ready to go :banana:

given that the forecast is for the day to get better as it goes on should we sleep in a bit and meet at Toppy's a bit later - 10.30 or later still?

[bart]

bikes all loaded on the trailer and ready to go :banana:

given that the forecast is for the day to get better as it goes on should we sleep in a bit and meet at Toppy's a bit later - 10.30 or later still?

Bunch of girls. I'm riding down. :headbang:

I'd rather keep things a bit earlier, as I'll have a 2 hour ride home. If we actually get to the top of the hill, it looks like a bloody long way out to the coast.

In saying that, I could possibly take the scenic route down to Toppy's.......or get there early. Half a dozen long black's, and I'll bounce up that hill without the bike. :2thumbsup

[junkmanjoe]

bart man...call in on ya way passed i tag along to toppys for a cupper i guess..better say hi to my girl friends..:buggerd:

[Pampera]

bikes all loaded on the trailer and ready to go :banana:

given that the forecast is for the day to get better as it goes on should we sleep in a bit and meet at Toppy's a bit later - 10.30 or later still?

Good thinking Batman.

1030 is fine by me - could do a bit later if that is what the consensus ends up - but will plan for 1030 as default. However Bart is right - much later and we may regret it at the other end of the day.

Michael

[andy mac]

Just checked in, what is the start time 9.30 or 10.30?

[bart]

bart man...call in on ya way passed i tag along to toppys for a cupper i guess..better say hi to my girl friends..:buggerd:

Sorry Joe. I'm planning on taking the back roads if it's a late start. Catch you at Toppy's.

[marks]

after various high level phone calls the meeting time has been changed to 10.30 am at Toppy's (I need my beauty sleep)

its only an hour from the top of cnut to the coast gate so if we get to the Hut by 12 and the top of the hill by 1pm we'd be back at the Hut by 3pm and Martinborough by 4pm and home by 6

hope that doesn't dick you around too much Bart

[bart]

after various high level phone calls the meeting time has been changed to 10.30 am at Toppy's (I need my beauty sleep)

its only an hour from the top of cnut to the coast gate so if we get to the Hut by 12 and the top of the hill by 1pm we'd be back at the Hut by 3pm and Martinborough by 4pm and home by 6

hope that doesn't dick you around too much Bart

Sweet as. I'll take the scenic route on the way down instead of the way back. :cool:

Nice to see you're still confident about getting up Cnut.:clap:

[bart]

About to hit the road. Road's wet, but I can see a wee bit of blue sky.

If anything changes, text me

[junkmanjoe]

weather report as from 7:51am

very damp,no rain as this stage, cold southerly wind, gray sky's as far as i can see.

have fun ladies ill sit this one out..

oh and knock the bastard off.

watch out for the masterton 4x4 club as there in there to day as well.


JMJ

[junkmanjoe]

well ya just might be in luck, as the sun just came out... a little blue sky down south way..

if it carry s on shining, i might show at toppys..

[marks]

weather report as from 7:51am

very damp,no rain as this stage, cold southerly wind, gray sky's as far as i can see. have fun ladies ill sit this one out.. JMJ

Weather is the same over here except its raining :( - I wouldn't be going if I had to ride to Martinborough.

am leaving shortly

[Box'a'bits]

Weather is the same over here except its raining :( - I wouldn't be going if I had to ride to Martinborough.

am leaving shortly

Thanks for that.:( I WILL be riding across & its pissing down. But looking at the rain radar I can see why the Wairarapa is missing it - its all funnelling through the Cook Straight. Looks like things will be clearer later on.

I'll be on my bike shortly.

Steve

[Eddieb]

Joe says it pissing down over there now.

[buggsubique]

have fun ladies ill sit this one out..


JMJ




if it carry s on shining, i might show at toppys..

Godsakes Joe, you're getting soft after all that time off! :Pokey:

[junkmanjoe]

oh mate.... didn't see you there... i didn't really want to get suzi all dirty again..

hows the job going.. all good..

JMJ

[Box'a'bits]

Pretty wet going over the Rimutaka's, & SLOW, given new, non-scrubbed knobbies.

Met MarkS, AndyMac & friend, Gav, Pamera, & Bart at Toppy's. Sat there for a while to allow the weather to improve, which it really didn't.

Out to the end of the Rd, still drizzling, riverlets going down the track, a bit slippy. The 1st river crossing was v.high, but we all got thru. The second had a tree down & that was that. Back up the track.

Had a look down Clay Rd, dead end. Back to Toppy's, who were closing. Round the cnr to Medicis & sat & drank lattes & chewed the fat about the coming 42/Fishers/Whanga Rd trip, then splashed across the Rimutakas to home.

Good trip & company, just disappointing the weather beat us a little. :weep:.

Someone will be along shortly with photos. :2thumbsup

[marks]

Pretty wet going over the Rimutaka's, & SLOW, given new, non-scrubbed knobbies.

Met MarkS, AndyMac & friend, Gav, Pamera, & Gav at Toppy's. Sat there for a while to allow the weather to improve, which it really didn't.

You forgot Bartholomew

we got stopped by cnut river

<img src=http://webcoda.com/images/bike/IMG_5139-640.jpg>

[Eddieb]

Now Mark is well known for wimping out when there a bit of water around but I think thats a worthwhile excuse this time.

[Box'a'bits]

Now Mark is well known for wimping out when there a bit of water around but I think thats a worthwhile excuse this time.

Well coming back on the 1st stream crossing, my muffler was under water, & if I'd modified the airbox the bike would have drowned. So, yes, a bit of water going down the stream....:whistle:

[gav24]

Yep, set out in the rain from Waikanae, had a puddle to sit in by the time I got to the Akas saddle!
Got some new pools in my boots and gloves over the rimatukas!
But got to Toppy's nice and early for a latte and a proper breakfast, and dried out a bit:clap:
Spent the rest of the time riding about various places - in the rain - Starting to enjoy it by now:lol:
After some precautionary poking about at the first river crossing I bit the bullet and made it over suprisingly easily:rolleyes::clap:
Though "Great - We're on now! Show me the hill!"
Then as the photos show we were stopped in our (soggy) tracks:weep:
Hopefully our 4x4 friends will clear that soon and we can get another go on "the hill":2thumbsup
Despite the rain, a great day, thanks all who braved the day, and tongues out to those who could only offer us moral support!:baby:

PS. As I decended the Akataruas guess what came out? Mr Sun!!! Typical!

[junkmanjoe]

You guys lucky you got that far...
its not the place to play during a rain storm... but good on ya for having a go.

so cnut hill is trying to tell you something,, flooded rivers trees blocking the way.

she dose not want to be beat.... till next time aye boys..

wait till things dry out...

JMJ

[bart]

Well I've finaly thawed out after a long trip home. Saw quite a few new roads on the way home (some not intentionally).

Will post up some pics later. Some came out surprisingly good, considering the conditions.

[pete376403]

Does it really matter about cnut hill? The hot waitress was at Toppys...:2thumbsup

[andy mac]

After some precautionary poking about at the first river crossing I bit the bullet and made it over suprisingly easily:rolleyes::clap:


Yip we probably would have dicked around for some time more until Bart waded across the stream to check the depth & show us where the hole was. Gav then led all the troops across sucessfully, shame the next nemisis was only 100 metres further along the track. Turn around & back thru the stream - again all sucessfully but wet socks for everyone. :weep:

Photos 1 Mark, 2 James, 3 Bart, 4 Steve

[bart]

Right, here goes.
1. Top of Pori Road. I took the scenic route to Toppy's
2. Pori was slow going. The gravel was this big.
3. The road to the track
4. Time to drop tyre pressure
5. Gav the guinea pig
6. Easy

[bart]

7. Mark getting his feet wet
8. James making a splash
9. It was this deep
10. Steve kicking the KTM
11. Where's the wheel
12. Dead end

[bart]

13. Parked up
14. Where too from here
15. Water on the lens gave a cool effect
16. On the way back out
17. same
18. The beast, almost home. 420km, 1 bent brake lever, 1 very cold rider after being wet all day.

Thanks a lot guys. Awesome day. Shame we couldn't get near the hill, but had a great ride anyway.

Bart

[andy mac]

Nice work, Bart(paparazzi)man!

[marks]

Nice work, Bart(paparazzi)man!

wot he said - specially like that one of Michael riding the Pampera in the misty bush

how about a rerun sometime middleish/late November?

If the sun comes out maybe even the pussies will join us?

[gav24]

Yeah definately:banana:

I still have to see that hill! I'm starting to think that its not actually real, just a photoshop image and an urban myth...;)

But if that is right then I still need to know where that track really goes:lol:

Seriously though, Im tied up for the next 6 or so weekends (not literally :buggerd:) so nobody better knock that bastard off before then!:mad:

[bart]

Yeah definately:banana:
so nobody better knock that bastard off before then!:mad:

Hmmmmmmm, what am I doing this weekend? 4 days off too. Bugger.......landscaping. :(

[Pampera]

wot he said - specially like that one of Michael riding the Pampera in the misty bush

how about a rerun sometime middleish/late November?

If the sun comes out maybe even the pussies will join us?

Absolutely tremendous shot BART - you are a lens god.

Keen for another try. Suggest we avoid
1) any wet weekend (!)
2) 14/15th November. 14th is WW1 aircraft flying display at Masterton (I want to go) and 15th is Toast Martinborough (facilities will be somewhat under pressure!)

Enjoyed Sunday regardless of the rain and the failure to get as far as planned. Still, as I said on Sunday, in a parallel universe I had my folding saw, we made it past the downed willow tree and we got benighted on the other side of some raging torrent (rather than enjoying an espresso in a nice warm cafe)
Michael

[bart]

Cheers guys. I work on the theory that for every 100 shots, you have to fluke a couple of good ones. I had to delete a heap because of water on the lens. Amazingly, the camera still works.

Bigger versions under 'Sutherlands 18-10-09' in 'Bart's photos' (my signature thing down below). Keep clicking on the photo you want until it blows it up real big. I'll chuck a few more in there too.

[Paladin]

Way to go guys! Looked a great day out despite the weather and downed tree!

:2thumbsup

Am sitting here VERY jealous!

[Dakar]

looks like a fun day guys.......really cool pics Bart, especially 15, (KB Calander?) anyway what camera do you use?

oh and the weather didnt look that bad after all!!!

[bart]

looks like a fun day guys.......really cool pics Bart, especially 15, (KB Calander?) anyway what camera do you use?

oh and the weather didnt look that bad after all!!!

Lower end Canon DSLR (450D). Far too good to be taking out on the bike. I'm still trying to figure out how all the gizmo's work. ;)

[Monstaman]

Cool pics!!

Creek is a lot higher than when we went through there, nice all the way up there and fantastic view at the top heading out towards the sea.

[marks]

heres what we needed on Sunday

http://www.cyclebuy.com/shopping/promoto/images_pmb/rack_1/pmb-01-9000.jpg

[bart]

heres what we needed on Sunday


NO NO NO..................it's orange.

[gav24]

Maybe this would also have helped a bit...

http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-news/the-amphibious-motorcycle-ar74964/picture302774.html

[dino3310]

NO NO NO..................it's orange.

aaa but orange AND white - so you know its gonna work

[bart]

Took a while to find this thread (page 12).

Anyone planning a run up the hill before winter? Just wondering whether to go to a full knobbly on the back.

[marks]

Took a while to find this thread (page 12).

Anyone planning a run up the hill before winter? Just wondering whether to go to a full knobbly on the back.

I'm keen
When??

[stormtrooper]

Took a while to find this thread (page 12).

Anyone planning a run up the hill before winter? Just wondering whether to go to a full knobbly on the back.

Had a good look at the pics from last time WOW keen to have a crack at the hill when the new tyres go on

[bart]

I'm keen
When??

Dunno. Easter's out, but I think most other weekends are free for me.

Edit....this coming weekend may be out also.

[Pampera]

Took a while to find this thread (page 12).

Anyone planning a run up the hill before winter? Just wondering whether to go to a full knobbly on the back.

I would be interested, albeit perhaps my interest will wane on getting there and actually seeing the hill again.
Michael

[junkmanjoe]

may be safer if you take your plane.................................go over top...

JMJ

[marks]

wot about first weekend after easter?

[gav24]

Sorry, I'm probably out if its that weekend, what about the one after that? or before?
So 3rd/4th or 17th/18th April.
I'm real keen after our last washout, and my new rear tyre!

[marks]

cmon Bart - you brought this back to life - pick a date you weiner

[bart]

cmon Bart - you brought this back to life - pick a date you weiner

Weiner....haha....that's my brothers nickname. Kinda glad I got 'Bart'. :laugh:

Any weekend that suits you guys. I may be working this Saturday. Might be a bit late to find a tyre for this Sunday. Easter weekend is out due to family stuff (might sneak away for a day, but will more than likely be heading north as I'll be in Napier). So....any weekend after easter works for me. :Punk:

[Number One]

haha ha haa the title says Mounting cun....oh no it doesn't....As you were :whistle:

[junkmanjoe]

haha ha haa the title says Mounting cun....oh no it doesn't....As you were :whistle:

bloody roadies,,,, no tar seal in here.... but in saying that,,,,,,,girls are allowed....on the back..

[Number One]

tee hee hee I couldn't resist sorry sir...off I go pigtails and petticoats flailing in the breeze as I skip away :innocent:

[junkmanjoe]

tee hee hee I couldn't resist sorry sir...off I go pigtails and petticoats flailing in the breeze as I skip away :innocent:


Whooow there lassie,,,,, not so fast on the escape.... im sure you be right at home on the back of a bumpy ride............ katoom style..........

[Number One]

Whooow there lassie,,,,, not so fast on the escape.... im sure you be right at home on the back of a bumpy ride............ katoom style..........

Actually good man I would suggest you ride bitch instead ;) I ride my own machines

[junkmanjoe]

with that been settled..............................:shit:......i ve lost the :love: of another good lass..:bye:


so bart and marks, ill be keen as a robbers dog, to take my baby to the hutt....
but my think twice about the climb to the top...:scooter:

JMJ

[Number One]

Ha ha who said you HAD my love? :lol: seriously though if you ever feel up for letting this lass out on your KTM I might just warm to ya a little...well actually hubby might a bit more warm than me but well you get the idea ;)

EDIT: I was thinking of a completely different bike - I'm far to short of leg for those shenanigans I'd be buggered if I had to stop!

[junkmanjoe]

sounds like your man knows a good thing when he see one............ :scooter:
you wouldn't need to worry about stopping, as no lass will get her hands on my controls....thats what the back seat is for...ladies only.............:yes:.
the more bumps...the more they hang on to ya...............:innocent:

JMJ

[dino3310]

Actually good man I would suggest you ride bitch instead ;) I ride my own machines

bwah hahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: Bling for that one.:2guns:

come on JMJ you need some better come backs my freind.:buggerd:

[junkmanjoe]

bwah hahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: Bling for that one.:2guns:

come on JMJ you need some better come backs my freind.:buggerd:

Mate feel free to step in mate..
may be two off us can tame the dragon in her.................:spanking:.

:scooter:..........its all fun and games till we run out of gas..........:scooter:

JMJ

[bart]

Another page of a good thread wasted on BS. Take it over to Facebook Joe. :sick:

She could probably ride the wheels off you and your Adv Cruiser anyway. :shutup:

[junkmanjoe]

bla bla bla

[dino3310]

what the cnut like in winter

[Number One]

Mate feel free to step in mate..
may be two off us can tame the dragon in her..............

Grrrrrrrrrrowwwwwwwwwil NOT likely :blip:


Another page of a good thread wasted on BS. Take it over to Facebook Joe. :sick:

Aww aren't any girls talking to you Mr Bart man? ;)

Ok leaving you all to your ranting about cunty hill...NOW

ciao

[merv]

Grrrrrrrrrrowwwwwwwwwil NOT likely :blip:



Aww aren't any girls talking to you Mr Bart man? ;)

Ok leaving you all to your ranting about cunty hill...NOW

ciao

Haha 29 pages already and they reckon you were wasting a page of the thread. Has that man of yours still got a dirt bike he could lend you to mount the hill?

[marks]

Haha 29 pages already ...
which represents a couple of failed attempts and one success - with a total of 3 bikes to the top
so thats slightly less than 10 pages per bike to the top...

will you join us for a bit of fun on the next run Merv? - the ride in is great and the lower levels of the hill would be fun on your XR or WR

[bart]

Haha 29 pages already and they reckon you were wasting a page of the thread.

Someone had to throw a bucket of cold water over them. :msn-wink:

Sorry, but that flirty shit makes me want to :sick:

[Number One]

Has that man of yours still got a dirt bike he could lend you to mount the hill?

Ha ha I have since looked at footage of said hill and have determined it is relatively unlikely that I would make it up ;)

We do however have a ratti run about dirtbike that's a bit of fun - though I fear it wouldn't have quite the number of horses required to do the job....and Sully-ones TTR50 probably wouldn't cut it either :lol:

[stormtrooper]

How many real adventure bikes meaning road legal bikes have made it to the top?

[Woodman]

How many real adventure bikes meaning road legal bikes have made it to the top?

2 as far as I know, (kb world) both smaller ones. No DR or KLRs yet mmmm challenge.

[junkmanjoe]

yep a lot of bikes have made it halfway....up the steep part..

JMJ

[stormtrooper]

Anything on the other side? can you ride out that way?

[marks]

How many real adventure bikes meaning road legal bikes have made it to the top?

Of our group - Bart got his DR to the top with Joe pushing. I got my DT to the top with lots of offs and push starts from Andy and Andy rode to the top all the way without stopping making it look easy on his WR250


Anything on the other side? can you ride out that way?

There is an awesome ride out to the coast - simply brilliant - return time is about an hour and a half

I think you'd have a reasonable chance of getting up but you would probably need to lower the gearing on the KLR and have a decent knobbly.

[K slider]

Slippery went over last saturday on his 1200 GS

[andy mac]

Slippery went over last saturday on his 1200 GS

:shit: :gob: :clap: :first:

Yikes I'm very impressed. That man must have very big balls or bank account to risk damaging such an expensive bike.
Is Slippery = James S?

[K slider]

No Andy very modified GS The guys name Joel Simonsen from Denmark, has lots of cash and bikes.
James S and Pete did have a look from the bottom of the hard bit reacently but decided that tourences would be pushing it a bit.

[gav24]

Seems like its been toppled by a bike bike:shit::Punk:
Would have loved to have been the first on the DR, but the rain put paid to me even seeing the beasty last time:bye:
My only hope now is that the GS made it after several crashes, lots of pushing and with a lengthened swingarm and paddle tyres:blink::blink:
If so, its game on again:rockon:
If he glided up cleanly - I'm selling my bike:bye:

Although, like the tree that falls over in the woods and doesnt make a sound, if theres no one there to photograph it and post it on Kiwibiker does it count? :blink:

I'm saying not, and keeping my bike:yes::scooter::scooter:

[Box'a'bits]

Seems like its been toppled by a bike bike:shit::Punk:
If he glided up cleanly - I'm selling my bike:bye:
Although, like the tree that falls over in the woods and doesnt make a sound, if theres no one there to photograph it and post it on Kiwibiker does it count? :blink:
I'm saying not, and keeping my bike:yes::scooter::scooter:
So lets be clear as to what you are saying. IF there are photos of this hillclimb by Slippery, & IF they are posted, THEN you will be selling your bike.

Brave posting that man....:shit:

[GSers]

Slippery went over last saturday on his 1200 GS

Go the WHALES what do you need a DT230 for
GSers

[bart]

Go the WHALES what do you need a DT230 for
GSers

Those GS things do resemble a tractor though. :shutup:

Nice work. There's no way I'd get a big bike like that up the first bit, let alone the real hill. :yes:

Grippy tyre is on it's way....so who's in (after easter for me though)? :Punk:

[marks]

Go the WHALES what do you need a DT230 for
GSers

If K Slider saw it I'll believe it but otherwise I have my doubts


...so who's in (after easter for me though)? :Punk:

oh oh ooh ohh
pick me pick me pick me...

[twisty]

I would enjoy another crack at this

[gav24]

So lets be clear as to what you are saying. IF there are photos of this hillclimb by Slippery, & IF they are posted, THEN you will be selling your bike.

Brave posting that man....:shit:

Should have added, and buying a HP2 enduro!:yes::yes:

If you cant beat em, an all that:shifty::shifty:

[bart]

Should have added, and buying a HP2 enduro!:yes::yes:

If you cant beat em, an all that:shifty::shifty:

Hmmmm...HP2. Nice :yes:

OK, if Gav can't make the weekend after Easter, how about we try the weekend after that (17th or 18th). Let's hope I've still got some tread left by then.

[gav24]

All clear at the moment
17th or 18th of April
- shall I put that in the calendar?...

[junkmanjoe]

ill ride to the hutt, but other than that cant afford the repair bill......

[bart]

I've just come in from the shed. Shiny new E-09 and new back brakes. Tempted to find a 13 tooth sprocket. Bring it on.....

[gav24]

ill ride to the hutt, but other than that cant afford the repair bill......

And I cant afford the shame of letting a BMW beat a DR to the top:laugh::laugh:

[bart]

OK, looking forward to this. How does Saturday work for yous guys? Saturday is bestest for me. Did I mention I'm looking forward to this. :yes:

[marks]

OK, looking forward to this. How does Saturday work for yous guys? Saturday is bestest for me. Did I mention I'm looking forward to this. :yes:

what time Saturday?
Toppy's?

[bart]

what time Saturday?
Toppy's?

How does 10am work? Oh.....did I mention I was looking forward to this. Hope the weather's OK.

[marks]

How does 10am work? Oh.....did I mention I was looking forward to this. Hope the weather's OK.

see you at 10

I've been doing lots of practice

http://webcoda.com/images/bike/IMG_7128.jpg

[gav24]

Arrrggghhhhh:shit::shit:
All ready for saturday, new knobblies, slight coating of mud(just for effect!), and bum bag stocked with spanners, chocolate and cash for a Mocha at Toppy's....Yeah that hills mine!...:yes:
..... Then:-
-'Dont forget my weekend with the girls this saturday'
-"erm..."
-'You've got Tom all day'
-"Sh@# F^&%, Bo&&*#@"
:bye::bye: Sorry I'm out:bye::bye:
She did let me out all weekend for the RRRR on her birthday, so I guess its only Karma:innocent:
...maybe next time, have fun in there (dont forget the chainsaw:scooter:)

[Box'a'bits]

Then:- -'Dont forget my weekend with the girls this saturday' :blink:
Surely that's what grandparents / relations / non riding friends are for? :yes:

[bart]

see you at 10

I've been doing lots of practice


Good on ya. Looks a bit slippy.:yes:



:bye::bye: Sorry I'm out:bye::bye:


That's a shame. I was looking forward to seeing you blast up there as if it were a mole hill. I guess the pressure's on me to get a DR to the top unaided. :shit:

[marks]

Surely that's what grandparents / relations / non riding friends are for? :yes:

so....

are you coming along to watch the carnage?

[Box'a'bits]

so.... are you coming along to watch the carnage?

Abso-bloody-lutely.:2thumbsup

[bart]

Abso-bloody-lutely.:2thumbsup

Awesome....silver plastic scattered through the bush will make a nice accompaniment to the black and blue stuff that Mark and I will leave.

[marks]

Awesome....silver plastic scattered through the bush will make a nice accompaniment to the black and blue stuff that Mark and I will leave.

actually - I think you'll find that Steve has a little thing that you and I don't - its called common sense
I suspect he will be keeping his silver plastic intact at the foot of the hill (hopefully with JMJ for company) and watching some idiots spreading black and blue plastic all over the side of the hill.

I'm happy to be proven wrong Steve :yes:

Tony (blue DR650 form RRRR) may well be coming to spectate as well.

[Box'a'bits]

actually - I think you'll find that Steve has a little thing that you and I don't - its called common sense
I suspect he will be keeping his silver plastic intact at the foot of the hill (hopefully with JMJ for company) and watching some idiots spreading black and blue plastic all over the side of the hill.

I'm happy to be proven wrong Steve :yes:.
So you're saying I SHOULDN'T put the 14t front sprocket on then?. :lol:

Yes, I'm probably just there to spectate. :yes:

[andy mac]

Hey guys I'm out cause Saturday is a sailing day.
Best of luck & take lots of video.
Steve maybe you shouldn't fill your fuel tank(er) to the brim?

[marks]

Hey guys I'm out cause Saturday is a sailing day.

thats a relief

I won't have to endure the shame of you cruising all the way to the top without breaking a sweat while I have multiple offs and slip and slide everywhere...

meanwhile you can start mentally preparing yourself for a Link Track assualt....

[andy mac]

Well it would be foolish to certainly ruin my 1 attempt/ 1 success Cnut record by attempting it again.

Yiip, I'm pschyed for the Link Track assault on Sunday - will start with just a 1/2 tank of gas.

[bart]

Well it would be foolish to certainly ruin my 1 attempt/ 1 success Cnut record by attempting it again.


Awwwww come on. That might have been a fluke. You've got to come and do it again so you can 'rub it in'.

Tyres kicked and thingamejig adjusted. Clutch is doing something weird (but that could be the clutch operator), so all good.

Lets go sort this Fcuking hill out.

[gav24]

Go, Go, Go!

:jerry::woohoo::woohoo:

I'll be thinking of you boys!

[veny]

Watching with interest...
GPS co-ordinates?
Is it Google-able? :)

[buggsubique]

What is the Link Track?? what are the timings for this on Sunday? So there's two Wellington rides this weekend? I'm here this weekend to smash out some uni work...but could always fit something in....can the @ come?

[bart]

Watching with interest...
GPS co-ordinates?
Is it Google-able? :)

Bloody high tech stuff. I dunno.

Here, where the track heads south, just before it heads north west.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=h&msa=0&msid=117235667829303166036.0004845650dc7f1772ce6&ll=-41.457491,175.322142&spn=0.013894,0.028882&z=15

[buggsubique]

ah fuck it, 45% of university assessment can go on hold for a few hours while I make the pilgrimage to CNUT. Is it 10am at Toppy's? Infact I have never been to Toppy's, again only heard of it through the stories of my forefathers...

If anyone else is leaving from Wellies / the Hutt, name a time and I'll meet you at Caltex, otherwise I guess it's 10am at Toppys?

[Box'a'bits]

ah fuck it, 45% of university assessment can go on hold for a few hours while I make the pilgrimage to CNUT. Is it 10am at Toppy's? Infact I have never been to Toppy's, again only heard of it through the stories of my forefathers...

If anyone else is leaving from Wellies / the Hutt, name a time and I'll meet you at Caltex, otherwise I guess it's 10am at Toppys?
Lets say 9.15 at Caltex Rimutaka? :yes:

Yes, the ride into Sutherlands Hut & the base of CNUT is much more suited to the @.

I suspect (given what Marks & Andy Mac have ridden recently) that the Link Track will be a muddy grovel for a big bike. :(

[buggsubique]

Lets say 9.15 at Caltex Rimutaka? :yes: :(

Yep, see you there... lookin forward to it!

[marks]

I suspect (given what Marks & Andy Mac have ridden recently) that the Link Track will be a muddy grovel for a big bike. :(

Actually - the Link Track is a muddy grovel on a little bike - I personally would not consider taking a big bike in there

if I'm not at Rimutex at 9.15 its because I've decided to trailer the DT to Martinborough

see you at Toppys at 10 one way or the other

[Box'a'bits]

If I'm not at Rimutex at 9.15 its because I've decided to trailer the DT to Martinborough. See you at Toppys at 10 one way or the other
You do realise that that would confirm your standing as trailer trash? Thereby make any potentially successful summit as ineligible in the Adventure Biking Rolls Of Honour, ie as counting as an adventure bike summit? Bikes must be ridden to the event! On the gearing they make the attempt on! We will never surrender (& all that tosh..)

[bart]

Tyres kicked and thingamejig adjusted. Clutch is doing something weird (but that could be the clutch operator), so all good.

Lets go sort this Fcuking hill out.

Home....:angry2::mad::baby:

Left about 7am. Thought I'd take the scenic route. Got out the end of Pori Road, pull the clutch, SNAP. No worries. Might have had a small crack in the lever which finally gave way. Pull over, get tools out, spare lever.....SHIT.....lever intact, but cable broken. Stuck out the arse end of Eketahuna with no clutch.

It took a few goes to get going, crashing it from neutral to first with a fist full of revs. :innocent:. Nursed it home without stopping for anything.

[Eddieb]

Home....:angry2::mad::baby:

Left about 7am. Thought I'd take the scenic route. Got out the end of Pori Road, pull the clutch, SNAP. No worries. Might have had a small crack in the lever which finally gave way. Pull over, get tools out, spare lever.....SHIT.....lever intact, but cable broken. Stuck out the arse end of Eketahuna with no clutch.

It took a few goes to get going, crashing it from neutral to first with a fist full of revs. :innocent:. Nursed it home without stopping for anything.

Bugger!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

[bart]

Bugger!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

Yep.

In some ways it's a relief. I've been thinking for the last couple of weeks that the gearbox was on its way out. Massive crunch on down changes, and would slip to neutral from second if the upchange wasn't clean. I didn't think to check the clutch cable as the clutch operated smoothly.

This is the first time I've ever had a clutch cable go. The bike's only done 14k.

[buggsubique]

Looking forward to Marks putting his photos up - was a mission, and was great fun. We all had a stab at Cnut 'cept poor Steve who had some issues with the kicker on his 640 and opted to wait at the hut. The @ took a few knocks and I came home with a broken left mirror and a bent clutch lever (thankfully not broken!). Got close but no cigar... I'm sure the photos will tell the story. Sorry you missed it Bart, you were sure excited about it. Definitely worth doing...

[gav24]

Yep.

In some ways it's a relief. I've been thinking for the last couple of weeks that the gearbox was on its way out. Massive crunch on down changes, and would slip to neutral from second if the upchange wasn't clean. I didn't think to check the clutch cable as the clutch operated smoothly.

This is the first time I've ever had a clutch cable go. The bike's only done 14k.

My DR has always done that strange jump back to neutral out of 2nd from new, especially in trainers/shoes as the lever doesnt get quite as much of a shove that they do in MX boots. Its particularly embarassing pulling away from the lights - especially with that loud pipe when the revs suddenly go mental!

Where along the cable did yours snap - lever end or at the actuating arm? -or even somewhere in between? Gonna check mine now, maybe they come with a half snapped cable from new...

Anyway the rest of you, stories from 'the Hill'....

[bart]

My DR has always done that strange jump back to neutral out of 2nd from new, especially in trainers/shoes as the lever doesnt get quite as much of a shove that they do in MX boots. Its particularly embarassing pulling away from the lights - especially with that loud pipe when the revs suddenly go mental!

Where along the cable did yours snap - lever end or at the actuating arm? -or even somewhere in between? Gonna check mine now, maybe they come with a half snapped cable from new...

Anyway the rest of you, stories from 'the Hill'....

OK, so the finding neutral thing may be normal. It only seems to happen when commuting to work, so you may be right about the shoe thing.

The cable broke at the lever where the ball thing attaches. I just remembered that I've been using a DRZ400 clutch lever for the last 4 months. There may be a slight difference in the pull angle? I'd better check it out. :blink:

[pete376403]

A friend had the cable on his DR650 break at the same point not too long ago*. I would guess that the barrel nipple was not rotating in the hole as the lever was operated, so flexing the cable at that point . The nipple is a fairly close fit in the hole, wouldn't take too uch dirt to jam it tight

*try and buy a DR650 clutch cable in Reefton on a Saturday night... he did a fast and clutchless run through to the Coast the next morning, found a bike shop which was open and the guy repaired the cable, including turning up a new barrel nipple on the lathe.

[Woodman]

Bart you missed an opportunity to reach ultimate legend status if you had made it up cnut with no clutch.
KLR does that jumping back into neutral thing too. Often when in second gear and relying heavily on the engine braking when coming into a downhill corner too fast. Scary.

Did anyone get up???

[buggsubique]

I heard there was some myth [and I do emphasise "myth"] that a Beemer 1200 got up there. I would drink a nice hot cup of my own piss if a 1200 could get up that track without Travis Pastrana riding it.

I am not a safari rider or MXer but I will put my balls out and say that there is no fucken way a 1200 tank got up that track as it is now. Maybe back when it was maintained a few years back, but not now.

The Africa ain't a small bike but it aint a behemoth either. I might have come close, but after three attempts and a pile of broken bits starting to mount up I conceded defeat.

[marks]

Did anyone get up???

Piece of Piss - although I suspect Matt was pretty knackered from assisting my attempt :yes:

Fortunately there were no cameras around when I looped the DT and pretzelled the rack and indicators etc....

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[junkmanjoe]

a credit to you buggs. to get ya beast that far up, in the old days the track never went that way, but instead went around the face of the hill about where mark stopped at the start of his vid, a large slip took the track away, so a bully was brought in to reline the track straight down so to speak..

on ya chaps for having another go at the cnut..

JMJ

[marks]

a credit to you buggs. to get ya beast that far up JMJ

I can't believe how well Matt and Shane did - I would never take my klr up there - serious skills - have a look at the photos here (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12704959#post12704959)

[stormtrooper]

WOW what a blast some serious fun was had and a cracker of a day to, pitty i was running an almost fully onroad tyre but was very amazed how far it took me, before i new it i was on the crazy hill climb with no turning back i could see buggs way up in the distance and his bike ditched on the track, i just opened the throttle and tryed to hang on best i could and ended up about four metres away from buggs that was it for me i knew that it was about as good as it gets with my back tyre.

I take my hat off to buggs he really gave it very thing on the vtwin beast it was hammering up there. Also credit to Marks for not giving up and getting there in the end.

Great fun riding with all you guys i will be looking forward to the next one.

STORMTROOPER

[Woodman]

Well done guys. Gotta have a go at this.

[junkmanjoe]

Well done guys. Gotta have a go at this.

ill bring my camera....

[marks]

ill bring my camera....

thought you were going to come along yeaterday?