WARNING: New speed camera vans [Archive]

TOTO

22nd April 2009, 23:40

New for me today I saw this....

It has a camera in the back (as usual), operator inside, and a FLASH mounted where the towbar is.

It is also not in a normal van but a sort of minivan or something like that(see pic). I'm guessing they can do it in all sorts of cars too.

this one was parked on the back roads of Beach Heaven in North Shore Auckland but I would imagine that there are more contractors in normal cars around the city/country.

so yea. anywhere, anytime boys and girls.

Beware.

yachtie10

22nd April 2009, 23:53

This was announced a while ago when they ordered the toyota vans instead of the L300
they will become a common site

TOTO

22nd April 2009, 23:55

This was announced a while ago when they ordered the toyota vans instead of the L300
they will become a common site

are you in the "Know" mate ?

tell us more please...how many , what areas, strong points , weak points...

C'mon...spill for us.

Anarkist

22nd April 2009, 23:58

Bikes don't have number plates on the front though last I checked :devil2:

sil3nt

22nd April 2009, 23:59

It was in the news and posted on this site a month or two ago.

TOTO

23rd April 2009, 00:01

It was in the news and posted on this site a month or two ago.

burn me.

its new for me.

Blackshear

23rd April 2009, 00:05

There has been a white van parked near the top of eskdale road, adjacent the pony club.
I AM NOW WORRIED.

TOTO

23rd April 2009, 00:10

There has been a white van parked near the top of eskdale road, adjacent the pony club.
I AM NOW WORRIED.

errrrrrm - this photo is from eskdale road, adjasent to the pony club....

sorry

Slyer

23rd April 2009, 00:14

Even I knew that Toto, come on. :clap:

Anarkist

23rd April 2009, 00:16

There has been a white van parked near the top of eskdale road, adjacent the pony club.
I AM NOW WORRIED.

inb4 v& :cool:

Blackshear

23rd April 2009, 01:29

errrrrrm - this photo is from eskdale road, adjasent to the pony club....

sorry

inb4 v& :cool:

FFFFFFFF
I HAVE NO JOB!!!!
Got kicked out of my last one after barely topping up the breadcrumbs...

inb4 your fault if you speed

TimeOut

23rd April 2009, 07:33

I here the new ones operate on the "K" band as well:Playnice:

grusomhat

23rd April 2009, 08:05

So they have finally got them on the road

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10561616

The flash makes them pretty obvious though, suckers. Does anyone know if the vans are one or two lanes? or four as the case may be sometimes.

cave weta

23rd April 2009, 08:10

They are in the Waikato too
I saw one in a silver Toyota Regulus import people mover, same setup.
it was parked off the road behind a barrier by the river in the Karangahake Gorge. Often we have trout fishermen parking there so it looks very "normal" :buggerd:- the bastards

Burtha

23rd April 2009, 08:27

tidy van / wagon! :dodge:
havent seen one here yet but prob wont be long ...

PirateJafa

23rd April 2009, 10:58

Jesus, they're hardly "subtle" with that flash setup on the back.

PirateJafa

23rd April 2009, 11:00

TOTO

23rd April 2009, 11:02

they have started Horse transporting wagons in the UK...

Blackshear

23rd April 2009, 11:11

they have started Horse transporting wagons in the UK...

Dude, they're archiving a years worth of everyone's internet history in some places 'round there.
Seems 'police state' isn't funny anymore.

Hitcher

23rd April 2009, 11:23

One wonders how long before some Einstein suggests recording their regos and posting those...

Blackshear

23rd April 2009, 11:40

One wonders how long before some Einstein suggests recording their regos and posting those...

But Hitcher, wouldn't that be naughty?

Phurrball

23rd April 2009, 11:40

I still say that the old Police Hiace/L300's would have been the easiest vans to disguise, ever.

Couple of ladders and long plastic tubes on a roofrack, and suddenly they'd have had instant plumber/electrician vans.

That, and the L300s had you slowing down for all the tradies' vans.

The L300 is common - a brand new Previa is a relatively rare sight.

Big Dog

23rd April 2009, 11:41

One wonders how long before some Einstein suggests recording their regos and posting those...

Hello Einstein.

ManDownUnder

23rd April 2009, 11:52

Wonder what they cost - it's be a bloody expensive accident if they backed into something!

Blackshear

23rd April 2009, 12:03

Wonder what they cost - it's be a bloody expensive accident if they backed into something!

A disgustingly large amount, actually.

"Car buyers can purchase a Previa from Toyota dealerships for $62,500 - an estimated total of $750,000 for the dozen the police purchased."
- NZ Herald

TOTO

23rd April 2009, 12:08

surely the gobermant got a better deal than that tho...fuken hopefully

vifferman

23rd April 2009, 12:20

buellbabe

23rd April 2009, 12:22

Personally I am wary of ANY vehicle parked up like that...

Apologies for taking this off topic... but has anyone else noticed that the northern motorway has been a hotspot for marked police cars over the last few weeks??? FARK I had a close call in the car and then last Sunday night I was pulled up on the bike.

It was dark, I was on my way home about 8pm. As soon as I pulled onto the motorway at silverdale i was aware of this blimmin car up my date, tailgating me and also blinding me with his lights.
I felt uncomfortable with that so gave the throttle a few blips and worked my way thru the traffic to get away from it.

Next thing there are red and blue lights behind me. As soon as the cop approached me I told him what was going on and he looked away with a slightly sheepish expression on his face.

I cracked up and said "oh shit! it was you wasn't it?" he didn't admit it but said that since they were unable to get a fix on my speed (and honestly I only sped up to get away from this car!) he wasn't gonna issue me with a ticket...

Aside from that what worries me is when some genius makes a speed camera that can target/track and swivel...

SMOKEU

23rd April 2009, 12:27

Anyone who sees one of these camera vans should either steal or vandalize it. Teach the fuckers a lesson for ripping the tax payers off.

TOTO

23rd April 2009, 12:36

Anyone who sees one of these camera vans should either steal or vandalize it. Teach the fuckers a lesson for ripping the tax payers off.

and what about the policeman inside ?

vifferman

23rd April 2009, 12:39

and what about the policeman inside ?
Don't they use 'non-sworn staff', i.e., non-policepersons?
They only sit there in the van reading, and occasionally writing down regos. They can't personally issue tickets, AFAIK.

cold comfort

23rd April 2009, 12:52

A disgustingly large amount, actually.

"Car buyers can purchase a Previa from Toyota dealerships for $62,500 - an estimated total of $750,000 for the dozen the police purchased."
- NZ Herald

"They" can afford it. Correct me if i am wrong but i believe i read recently $57 million from tickets issued, $27mil of those from speed cameras. A very profitable pastime!

vifferman

23rd April 2009, 12:56

"They" can afford it. Correct me if i am wrong but i believe i read recently $57 million from tickets issued, $27mil of those from speed cameras. A very profitable pastime!
No, no - you've got it worngA!
It's all about increasing road safety! :Pokey:

TimeOut

23rd April 2009, 12:57

Anyone who sees one of these camera vans should either steal or vandalize it. Teach the fuckers a lesson for ripping the tax payers off.

A couple of years ago some:innocent: through some three sided nails (dunno what they are called) down where they always parked the van under a bridge on the Northern motorway.
They were none to amused to have 4 flat tyres:gob::angry:

Starky307

23rd April 2009, 13:10

GSXR Trace

23rd April 2009, 13:16

I'm sure I saw one of these operating Easter weekend, it was at the end of SH27 where it joins onto SH1 at the bottom of the bombay hills.

Every heard of the motorcycle data base? I heard a rumour that all the frontal speeding tickets (no plate showing) are kept and referenced to all the rear speeding tickets (plate showing) from the area, if a match can be made the a ticket is sent.
Does anyone know if this is true or not?

wouldn't surprise me, they were sure to eventualy get pissed off at seeing pictures of bikers doing "crazy" speeds and flipping them the bird etc that the would devise a way to start nailing our arses to the wall. Dunno whether its the correct approach, given there are numerous bikes out there that are identical with riders wearing all black leathers... can see arguments arising over whether it was the person ticketed or not. I assumed that they would eventually wise up and move the cameras to the front of the vehicles to get the bikes heading away and therefore have the number plate in shot.

Starky307

23rd April 2009, 13:18

wouldn't surprise me, they were sure to eventualy get pissed off at seeing pictures of bikers doing "crazy" speeds and flipping them the bird etc that the would devise a way to start nailing our arses to the wall. Dunno whether its the correct approach, given there are numerous bikes out there that are identical with riders wearing all black leathers... can see arguments arising over whether it was the person ticketed or not. I assumed that they would eventually wise up and move the cameras to the front of the vehicles to get the bikes heading away and therefore have the number plate in shot.

I took it with a grain of salt too, but then again who knows...

Hitcher

23rd April 2009, 13:19

I wonder what
... the L300 "no longer meets the operational requirements for a camera vehicle"
actually means?
They're too recognisable?
They're not comfy for the operators to sit in for long periods of time?

An "interested member of the public" with time on their hands may like to enquire of the Minister of Transport/Police, under the provisions of the Official Information Act, what exactly those "operational requirements" may be...

ManDownUnder

23rd April 2009, 13:26

An "interested member of the public" with time on their hands may like to enquire of the Minister of Transport/Police, under the provisions of the Official Information Act, what exactly those "operational requirements" may be...

Sounds like a Grand Idea (TM). How do we find such a person - KBers have a lot of opinions but let's be honest... fuck all actually gets done.

Mully

23rd April 2009, 13:32

Sounds like a Grand Idea (TM). How do we find such a person - KBers ahve a lot of opinions but let's be honest... fuck all actually gets done.

I was gonna post and object to this, but I can't be bothered.

Now where's my soap box?

ManDownUnder

23rd April 2009, 13:36

I was gonna post and object to this, but I can't be bothered.

Now where's my soap box?

Hopefully still full of soap. You can't wash if you're a real biker

Mully

23rd April 2009, 13:44

You can't wash if you're a real biker

Or wave........

martybabe

23rd April 2009, 13:51

No, no - you've got it worngA!
It's all about increasing road safety! :Pokey:

:laugh: I read somewhere that the technology is available now to make vehicles do the speed limits posted, something to do with Martians, circuit boards and satellites, anyway the thing is, new vehicles can be fitted with with a (thing), no doubt at the purchasers expense, that tells the Martians when you've entered a restricted zone then a ray gun automatically kills your speed.

It will be interesting to see if countries like Britainville adopt this system, given that they earn more from speeding fines than any other profit making enterprise, can they actually afford to run a country where people don't speed!

One day gubermints will stop pretending highway robbery is road safety and start doing something about the piss heads maniacs and halfwits that I meet every day on the road, on that day I shall wear carrots up my nose, call myself rupert and give Fat Max a sloppy snog.

Blackshear

23rd April 2009, 13:51

Or wave........

Are you a Harley rider?

Mikkel

23rd April 2009, 14:25

I wonder what
... the L300 "no longer meets the operational requirements for a camera vehicle"
actually means?
They're too recognisable?
They're not comfy for the operators to sit in for long periods of time?

I don't think it will be long before you can get tuned into noticing them parked up in the usual "accident blackspots". :rolleyes:
I guess that even if they are significantly dearer than the L300's they replace, they'll have a good return on investment till people start to notice them, and even thereafter.

I was just about to say...

Operational requirements? Doesn't it park well enough?
Speaking about parking. Wouldn't it be possible to park something big behind a speed camera van?

Anyway, I shall cherish each and every moment until the madness escalate to the point where they will start handing out demerit points for speed camera tickets...

Blackshear

23rd April 2009, 14:44

It's ok guys, Eskdale road is safe now.

But where'd it go...

PeteMun

23rd April 2009, 15:23

PHOENIX - A man has been charged with first-degree murder in the shooting of a photo radar van operator as he worked on a highway in Phoenix.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10568234

NighthawkNZ

23rd April 2009, 15:36

so yea. anywhere, anytime boys and girls.

Has not always been the case anyway... :scratch: :blink:

ukusa

23rd April 2009, 18:11

are they all white? Anyone seen any other colours being used? One colour only is great, slow down for that white speck in the distance.

Howsie

23rd April 2009, 21:40

Isnt it easier to be wary of anything with a tinted back window parked suspiciously on the side of a busy road??

Bugger me, can I get a job working one of those? What comfort!

scumdog

23rd April 2009, 21:48

No, no - you've got it worngA!
It's all about increasing road safety! :Pokey:

No, no - you've got it wrongA!

It's all about catching those who can't pay attention!:shutup:

Swoop

4th May 2009, 10:42

I validated the "K-Band radar" statement yesterday.

The tax collector in his/her L300 van has obviously been given one of the new cameras that ARE operating on the K-Band.
I went past and nothing signalled. Pulled over and switched on the K-Band on the STi, then did a U turn and did an extra couple of passes.

Results:
Bel STi.
Approaching the cameravan head-on. Detection range approx 800metres.:woohoo:
Approaching cameravan from opposite direction (Radar beam heading away from detector). Detection range approx 150metres.:woohoo:

TOTO

4th May 2009, 11:59

wicked. cheers for that. Will test it on my V1 when I get it soon.

philnz

4th May 2009, 13:48

redflex (aussie)k band 24.100 ghz and very hard to pick up with a detector even top of the range
sent in my sti to get upgraded as it was only getting 200m on the ka and 50m on the new k
now I have it back just need to find a couple of cameras to check how the new upgrade is

trouble is with k on you get all the crap signals...at least the sti can be set to C to filter out most

DrewBroadley

9th June 2009, 14:46

Anyone who sees one of these camera vans should either steal or vandalize it. Teach the fuckers a lesson for ripping the tax payers off.

How about teaching a lesson for the people speeding, crashing and using the tax payers money on ACC ?

OH NO HE DIDN'T.

There's always two sides to the coin.

I never get the people who perform aggressive attacks on people who aren't doing anything wrong, or aren't in the wrong when the attacker is the one in the wrong.

Finn

9th June 2009, 14:51

Easily fixed. Just remove the front number plate from your bike.

Blackshear

9th June 2009, 14:57

Easily fixed. Just remove the front number plate from your bike.

I don't have one, but my WOF inspector has been passing me without a front plate for a year now, should I be worried he's not authorized to do it properly?

Zuki lover

9th June 2009, 15:11

Oh goodie - something else to watch for......:mad:

NDORFN

9th June 2009, 15:14

How about teaching a lesson for the people speeding, crashing and using the tax payers money on ACC ?

OH NO HE DIDN'T.

There's always two sides to the coin.

I never get the people who perform aggressive attacks on people who aren't doing anything wrong, or aren't in the wrong when the attacker is the one in the wrong.

The fines are rediculously excessive. Do some research... we're getting raped!

Swoop

9th June 2009, 16:56

How about teaching a lesson for the people speeding, crashing and using the tax payers money on ACC ?
Perhaps you should vent your anger at those who place "speed cameras" at locations which have no correlation with accidents.
The "speed camera" was introduced into NZ on the premise that they would ONLY be used in accident black-spots. Since then they have become used as a taxation gathering device.

vonstringer

13th June 2009, 20:01

Speed cameras should not be a problem for me, because I own a Stealth Bike. Yes, believe it or not Yamaha have cleverly incorporated stealth technology into their Scorpio commuters. Every time I ride past the pole-mounted speed display device on the Appleby Highway in Richmond, it shows my speed at 10kph slower than my speedo.

It seemed ridiculous that my speedo could be that badly out of calibration, so I decided to stop up the road and wait for a car to go by so I could measure my speed against theirs. Sure enough, despite carefully following at an even distance, the car got a display of 81kph and I got 71kph.

Don't be surprised if you hear in the news that the US military is placing a big order for Scorpios. :)

steve_t

13th June 2009, 20:18

What kind of helmet and jacket have u got? Maybe they're stealth coated too? :rolleyes:
I'm gonna try out the speed display down the road from me :niceone:

vonstringer

13th June 2009, 21:14

I hope it's not my leather jacket that's absorbing the radar... I might end up cooked!

gwigs

13th June 2009, 22:04

I dreamed up a device a few years ago to stop a speed camera from getting your plate..It works like this ..you have 2 small photographic flash guns mounted either side of your number plate at 45 degrees facing in from the plate to the back ...these are attached to a photo slave unit...it will pick up the flash from the camera and will fire your flashes almost instantly.....when they revenue gathering swine check the pics your plate should be whited out by your flashes.
But I havent tried it its only a theory..:devil2:

TOTO

13th June 2009, 22:19

scumdog

13th June 2009, 22:21

Slow down

IT works.

caseye

13th June 2009, 22:50

Nothing surer than that scumdog, good advice.These New Previas ( toyota vans) cost nearly 3 times the price of a new Mitsibishi as they have used up till now.
I want to know why they are spending so much money on a vehicle that simply sits on the side of the road and generates Huge amounts of money by taking pic's.Surely they can't argue it's for speed, ease of sue or comfort?
Making too much dinero is my guess.

TOTO

13th June 2009, 23:19

since it makes so much money for them, I dont think they are worried about what they pay for it.

Bow-Down

24th June 2009, 09:22

The piglets are trying to set up speed cameras in the cat eyes.
Need a bagged ute to come and pop them off.

scumdog

24th June 2009, 19:47

The piglets are trying to set up speed cameras in the cat eyes.
Need a bagged ute to come and pop them off.

Sounds like some people are a tad paranoid...:crazy:

Monie

24th June 2009, 19:52

We have a nice new blue van down our way it is a bmw van i think 09 model..

gunnyrob

24th June 2009, 22:48

There is nothing that cannot be solved with a suitable application of high explosives......

DrewBroadley

25th June 2009, 18:50

The fines are rediculously excessive. Do some research... we're getting raped!

I don't get it, I'm not getting raped because I'm not getting fines. I'm not saying the speed limit is correct or that it's too low/high. I'm just wondering why you're being passive aggressive against something that is your own fault if you get fined?!

DrewBroadley

25th June 2009, 18:51

Perhaps you should vent your anger at those who place "speed cameras" at locations which have no correlation with accidents.
The "speed camera" was introduced into NZ on the premise that they would ONLY be used in accident black-spots. Since then they have become used as a taxation gathering device.

... only if you speed.

*see passive aggressive comment above.