Bad luck continues. Had first crash

[monkeymsea]

Hey all

Just wanted to have a vent about my bad luck...

Here is the summary of last year
Girlfriend leaves me for some fuck wit that drives a honda (damn hondas)
Get my first ticket ($600) on bike for gong 112 on the motorway (damn L plate)
Get done for DIC for blowing 232 (damn being under 20)
DIC demeret points put me over for demerits too
Lost licence for 5 months all together

Get my licence back last tuesday and I start thinking by luck is changing
Get some zxr bits off Skidmark (still happy at this point)
Wednesday night spend from 5pm till midnight putting the zxr back together

BAdluck comes in now
As I was on the computer researching why my new indicators didnt flash some little fucker ran up my drive way and stole my helmet which was sitting in my garage..
I borrow a helmet off a mate while Mr Motorcycles order me in a new one..
Thani comes over to go for a ride.. I suit up and we head off.

Coming into puke just cruising. I was following thani when the car in front of her slams on the brakes. Thani slams on the brakes also. All I remember seeing is her rear tyre lock up then look down and see my front tyre lock up (I think). Next thing I knew I was on the ground and bits of my faring are all over the road. We then dislodged my bike from thani's and put them to the side of the road.

Car was fine, Thanis mighty GN had a bent number plate.. And my bike well I need.

New headlights
New top fairing
New mudaurd at the front
Left Fairing

anyways my venting is over.

Im starting to think my bike is haunted... Maybe I should throw in the towel lol

[The Pastor]

what a bad arse!

[prettybillie]

Im starting to think my bike is haunted... Maybe I should throw in the towel lol

Don't do that. Okay so things haven't been that great - but when you get your bike sorted you'll jump on it and realise this is the way to release ALL your stress!!!!!

[Hitcher]

"Luck", or lack thereof, is rarely a contributor to motorcycle accidents, departure of girlfriends or to the propensity of law enforcement officials to issue speeding infringement notices.

[monkeymsea]

"Luck", or lack thereof, is rarely a contributor to motorcycle accidents, departure of girlfriends or to the propensity of law enforcement officials to issue speeding infringement notices.

I am aware of that... only took 3 posts till someone said that..
Like I said I just wanted to vent

[Tank]

People make their own luck.

Personally I dont believe in bikes being haunted - but putting bits on your bike that used to belong to skidmark is as about as close to being haunted as you will get.

[Beemer]

Look at it this way, at least your girlfriend is lucky - she got out just at the right time by the sound of it!

[allycatz]

Hey at least Your still in one piece aye.....things can only get better mate:hug:

[monkeymsea]

but putting bits on your bike that used to belong to skidmark is as about as close to being haunted as you will get.

HAha Nah Ill will be going to him to get more bits now...



Look at it this way, at least your girlfriend is lucky - she got out just at the right time by the sound of it!

HAhahahahahahahah good call :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[dipshit]

What a loser.

You make your own luck in life.

Until you realise this you, will continue to be a loser.

[buellbabe]

You must be gutted and I commiserate on that basis...hope you get your bike back together soon and get to do some enjoyable riding...

But this "Get done for DIC for blowing 232 (damn being under 20)" ain't bad luck.

Thats something to be ashamed of.

[Blackshear]

What a loser.

You make your own luck in life.

Until you realise this you, will continue to be a loser.

Agreed.
How's the glass house coping with this weather, eh?
Must be brittle, wot :whistle:

[ducatilover]

You could buy my bike. It has an anti haunt charm standard because it is a honda ;)

bugger to hear bout all the bad luck mate

[tigertim20]

Hey all

Just wanted to have a vent about my bad luck...

Here is the summary of last year
Girlfriend leaves me for some fuck wit that drives a honda (damn hondas)
Get my first ticket ($600) on bike for gong 112 on the motorway (damn L plate)
Get done for DIC for blowing 232 (damn being under 20)
DIC demeret points put me over for demerits too
Lost licence for 5 months all together

Get my licence back last tuesday and I start thinking by luck is changing
Get some zxr bits off Skidmark (still happy at this point)
Wednesday night spend from 5pm till midnight putting the zxr back together

BAdluck comes in now
As I was on the computer researching why my new indicators didnt flash some little fucker ran up my drive way and stole my helmet which was sitting in my garage..
I borrow a helmet off a mate while Mr Motorcycles order me in a new one..
Thani comes over to go for a ride.. I suit up and we head off.

Coming into puke just cruising. I was following thani when the car in front of her slams on the brakes. Thani slams on the brakes also. All I remember seeing is her rear tyre lock up then look down and see my front tyre lock up (I think). Next thing I knew I was on the ground and bits of my faring are all over the road. We then dislodged my bike from thani's and put them to the side of the road.

Car was fine, Thanis mighty GN had a bent number plate.. And my bike well I need.

New headlights
New top fairing
New mudaurd at the front
Left Fairing

anyways my venting is over.

Im starting to think my bike is haunted... Maybe I should throw in the towel lol

What don't kill ya mkes ya stronger. there are lessons to be learned here (especially in the case of tickets, dic :Oops:)
learn the lessons, get the bike fixed, and get back on the road as a wiser, smarter more capable rider and human being. Youll be right mate! I wish your bike a speedy recovery! :2thumbsup

[Duc]

Tell us all what you learnt from running into the bike in front of you.

(I am hoping you dont say it was bad luck but actually discovered a basic rule of riding/driving)

[monkeymsea]

Tell us all what you learnt from running into the bike in front of you.

(I am hoping you dont say it was bad luck but actually discovered a basic rule of riding/driving)

Two words... Target fixation!!!

O yeah and GN are bloody tough haha

[Tubbsy]

If you didn't get injured in an accident, sounds like GOOD luck to me. :yes:

[BMWST?]

Two words... Target fixation!!!

O yeah and GN are bloody tough haha

yeah and dont look down,look to the horizon or better yet a point beside Thanis bike,or even down the side of the car that stopped...cos thats where you will end up going if you dont stop first.When you get your bike fixed go and find a quiet peice of road and practise hard stops so you get the feel of it,if you do lock up the front wheel release the front brake IMMEDIATELY and reapply.The next time you have to stop it wont be "good luck" it will be "good work"

[Ixion]

Don't brake. Brakes are way overrated, only cagers brake. Dodge.

[YellowDog]

What a loser.

You make your own luck in life.

Until you realise this you, will continue to be a loser.
Can I have your phone number Dipshit?

Just in case I am feeling a little down and want to share my life's frustrations, I am sure that talking with you could be just the pick up I need to cheer me up and get me positively back on track :)

[The Stranger]

Two words... Target fixation!!!



And "following distance"

[dipshit]

Can I have your phone number Dipshit?

Just in case I am feeling a little down and want to share my life's frustrations, I am sure that talking with you could be just the pick up I need to cheer me up and get me positively back on track :)


Call your mummy if you want someone to tell you BS like it's other people's fault if you just want to feel better.

[Duc]

Two words... Target fixation!!!

O yeah and GN are bloody tough haha

You failed the test and really need to sort it out before you get on a bike again.

Target fixation maybe part of it but "following distance" was a better answer assuming you had concentration/focus on what you were doing.

If following distance was under control...target fixation is less of a factor.

(Space is your BEST friend at any speed and in any circumstances on a bike. Space =time)

BTW: GNs maybe "tough" but skin and bone aint. (you got lucky)

[Mom]

Don't brake. Brakes are way overrated, only cagers brake. Dodge.

Tried that in my little roller skate bomb the other morning on the way to work when some blonde bint driving a Remuera tractor needed the entire road while she re-did her lippy or something, about ended up in the drain.


And "following distance"

And "panic braking"

[tigertim20]

Two words... Target fixation!!!

O yeah and GN are bloody tough haha

No, actually Im going to be an arsehole and tell you what the roadcode says. You were partly right, it is two words! Staggered Formation.
(and distance...)

[Thani-B]

Don't brake. Brakes are way overrated, only cagers brake. Dodge.

Bit hard to dodge when there was oncoming traffic.


And "following distance"

He was plenty far enough behind me. Going from an 80 to a 50 when the car in front of you decides to slam on her brakes makes you cover distance really quickly, even while braking.



BTW: GNs maybe "tough" but skin and bone aint. (you got lucky)

I think Im lucky too...
My poor baby lived to tell the tale, with no damage as far as I can tell.

I'm just grateful that there was no traffic behind us.

[Katman]

Bad luck had nothing to do with it.

Piss poor management is more likely the cause.

[DMNTD]

He was plenty far enough behind me. Going from an 80 to a 50 when the car in front of you decides to slam on her brakes makes you cover distance really quickly, even while braking...
Then why did he hit into you? :wacko:

[Thani-B]

Then why did he hit into you? :wacko:

Dunno. He was looking at the smoke coming off my rear tyre.

[DMNTD]

Dunno. He was looking at the smoke coming off my rear tyre.

Yet had plenty of space to stop?

[jrandom]

... the smoke coming off my rear tyre.

What were you doing locking the rear up?

[bikerboy011]

Unlucky mate, just buy a honda it will save your life lol

[The Stranger]

He was plenty far enough behind me. Going from an 80 to a 50 when the car in front of you decides to slam on her brakes makes you cover distance really quickly, even while braking.




What the fuck?
This is a piss take surely.
Please tell me, this is a piss take right?

[Two Smoker]

What were you doing locking the rear up?

Maybe she had lessons from Jay? hehehe

Fark everyone on here must be riding gods and never made mistakes...

Only idiots dont learn from mistakes.

Lessons that you should have learned:

1. Dont ever drink and ride.
2. Watch your following distance
3. Dont jam the brakes on full. Fast, smooth and progressive is the technique.

As for crashes? Be glad youre not injured! Ive lost count of my crashes, but i think its somewhere in the high 20's early 30's over 5 years lol...

[Mom]

What the fuck?
This is a piss take surely.
Please tell me, this is a piss take right?

No I dont believe it is a piss take. When you first start out 80kph is extremely fast, and you probably feel you are going to die with every bump in the road. Having said that though, there appears to be quite a few skills that need working on for this youngster.

[Two Smoker]

What the fuck?
This is a piss take surely.
Please tell me, this is a piss take right?

No mate... this is a pisstake...

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[Thani-B]

Yet had plenty of space to stop?

Got distracted? Im not exactly sure what happened.


What were you doing locking the rear up?

Trying to avoid hitting the car in front of me. (It worked too).


Maybe she had lessons from Jay? hehehe

Fark everyone on here must be riding gods and never made mistakes...

Only idiots dont learn from mistakes.

Lessons that you should have learned:

1. Dont ever drink and ride.
2. Watch your following distance
3. Dont jam the brakes on full. Fast, smooth and progressive is the technique.

As for crashes? Be glad youre not injured! Ive lost count of my crashes, but i think its somewhere in the high 20's early 30's over 5 years lol...

And yes we both are glad it wasn't worse. None of you were there so cant really comment on what we did. We are both fairly new riders and handled the situation as well as we could.

[davebullet]

Anyone in the Auckland area offering to mentor him?

[jrandom]

Anyone in the Auckland area offering to mentor him?

The whole point of the KB Mentor system is that he knows who to contact without having to have explicit offers shoved in his face.

Edit: OK, maybe that's about half the point, with the rest being the inflation of various egos. But, y'know what I mean.

[Freeatlast]

There appears to be quite a few skills that need working on for this youngster.

1. not "remembering" licence restrictions ...

2. not "remembering" drink/drive regulations whilst on an "L" plate ...

3. not "remembering" previous demerit points still current on his licence ...

4. not "remembering" that buying anything off 'skid can be dangerous... If he doesn't want it, why would anybody else.

5. not "remembering" that going anywhere near 'Puke can be dangerous...

[zeocen]

Shit rider crashes, fucking his bike keeping him off the road.

Things have gone better than expected! :hug:

[Thani-B]

5. not "remembering" that going anywhere near 'Puke can be dangerous...

What does the location have to do with it?



Shit rider crashes, fucking his bike keeping him off the road.

Things have gone better than expected! :hug:

And he's a learner. Be nice.

[tigertim20]

Shit rider crashes, fucking his bike keeping him off the road.

Things have gone better than expected! :hug:

Did you learn to ride at some point in your life, or were you a born expert, riding our of your mum's vagina on a litre bike, high fiving the doctor on the way out the door?:eek5:
Learner riders are just that. LEARNERS. cos they make fuckin stupid mistakes. we all did. I know I did :Oops:. I thought this forum was here to talk shit and support fellow bikers. Sure he has some lessons to learn, and many on here have already told him what those lessons are. he has a broken bike, and a bruised ego, and by the time he is better he will (hopefully) be a smarted wiser more skillful rider.:Playnice:

[The Stranger]

And he's a learner. Be nice.

He was being nice, saying how it all turned out for the best in the end, what's bad about that?

[Thani-B]

He was being nice, saying how it all turned out for the best in the end, what's bad about that?

Thats not how I read it.

[6ft5]

He man get over it, you make your own luck and left the door open with all the things you were doing

Stop whinging and take some responsibility for your own actions

[Laxi]

way too many people on this site with their heads jammed right up there arses dreaming about how perfect they are, they forget people, especially learners make mistakes, they rather sit there bagging them with" I'm so good " "I would have", you can tell the people who are here to boost their egos from the true bikers

[cowboyz]

Hey all

Just wanted to have a vent about my bad luck...

Here is the summary of last year
Girlfriend leaves me for some fuck wit that drives a honda (damn hondas)
Get my first ticket ($600) on bike for gong 112 on the motorway (damn L plate)
Get done for DIC for blowing 232 (damn being under 20)
DIC demeret points put me over for demerits too
Lost licence for 5 months all together
Coming into puke just cruising. I was following thani when the car in front of her slams on the brakes. Thani slams on the brakes also. All I remember seeing is her rear tyre lock up then look down and see my front tyre lock up (I think). Next thing I knew I was on the ground and bits of my faring are all over the road. We then dislodged my bike from thani's and put them to the side of the road.


all of the above is self-authored and could have been avoided. Cant see luck having alot to do with any of it, well maybe aside from the girlfriend thing.

Risk assessment. 112km/hr while wearing an L plate on a commonly patrolled road after a couple of drinks? Seriously???



He was plenty far enough behind me. Going from an 80 to a 50 when the car in front of you decides to slam on her brakes makes you cover distance really quickly, even while braking.

.

please at least tell us your hot? Got to be some excuse for running into the back of you when he was "plenty far enough behind"


way too many people on this site with their heads jammed right up there arses dreaming about how perfect they are, they forget people, especially learners make mistakes, they rather sit there bagging them with" I'm so good " "I would have", you can tell the people who are here to boost their egos from the true bikers

There are also alot of people on this site with a bit of common sense and personal responsibility call it how they see it and not blame luck for a whole heap of problems that could have so easily been avoided.

And the whole "but hes a learner" doesnt wash with me. I taught my wife how to ride. Not until I was *completely* satisfied with her braking on striaght, hard, soft, and while cornering and doing it without effort did we venture out onto the road. Took 2 weeks of carpark work and on one of the first rides out on the road we had a car and trailer pull out in front of us (she was leading, I was following) with very little space. Fantastic to see her pull a 30yr old bike up in a short distance without locking anything up and avoiding an accident. We practice these things for a reason instead of jumping out on the road and thinking that their heads jammed right up there arses dreaming about how perfect they are, they forget people, especially learners make mistakes, they rather sit there bagging them with" I'm so good " "I would have", you can tell the people who are here to boost their egos from the true bikers

[dipshit]

way too many people on this site with their heads jammed right up there arses dreaming about how perfect they are, they forget people, especially learners make mistakes, they rather sit there bagging them with" I'm so good " "I would have", you can tell the people who are here to boost their egos from the true bikers


Bullshit. Getting done for drunk driving and speeding while on a learners licence and complaining your girlfriend left you and running up the arse of a bike in front of you isn't "bad luck". They are all consequences of his own doing.

The sort of person that can't comprehend this and blames things on everybody else (or bad luck) isn't the sort of person that should take up motorcycling. (unless they grow a brain asap)

[6ft5]

hear hear...you just confirmed my assessment

he should grow up and go to some riding attitude classes

[dipshit]

Cant see luck having alot to do with any of it, well maybe aside from the girlfriend thing.

It's the "she left me for another guy" thing.

Perhaps she just left you because of you...???

[cowboyz]

It's the "she left me for another guy" thing.

Perhaps she just left you because of you...???

that doesnt seem right. I have had heaps of girls leave me but my wife (who is always right) thinks Im awesome so it transpires,

It wasnt me, it was them. (or bad luck)

[Laxi]

Bullshit. Getting done for drunk driving and speeding while on a learners licence and complaining your girlfriend left you and running up the arse of a bike in front of you isn't "bad luck". They are all consequences of his own doing.

The sort of person that can't comprehend this and blames things on everybody else (or bad luck) isn't the sort of person that should take up motorcycling. (unless they grow a brain asap)

how old's this kid? you never do anything stupid? hell I know I did, I was probably lucky to make it to 21, sure he's stupid for drink driving or saying its bad luck, but the point he is he needs to learn the facts, back off when you're following, remember you have room to stop beside car/bike and brake progression, he dosnt need to be told


What a loser.

You make your own luck in life.

Until you realise this you, will continue to be a loser.

at least your smart enough to know when you're being talked about though

[Katman]

I have had heaps of girls leave me

Was that when they found out you were married?

[tigertim20]

I think some people are talking the whole thing too literally. He had a shit week, yeah. Largely his own doing? yeah. Do accidents happen? yeah. Had several friends die on bikes on the road, and all of them were awesome, safe, careful riders, sometimes accidents happen, no matter how experienced/inexperienced you are. Im sure he will figure out what he can do to stop all this shit from happening again, and hopefuly he will undertake some mentoring or other riding courses, but I dont see the point effectively telling a learner they are stupid or whatever. We all learn at our own rate. some faster some slower. and we ALL make mistakes, maybe forgetting to indicate, or in a hurry braking in an emergency your fingers slip off the lever, it happens, and sometimes we dont even know we did it (the people behinds probably did though hahaha.
I hope the OP gets some lessons from an experienced rider, and stops drinking AT ALL if he is gonna ride. and learns to increase his following distance at all times. But I dont think (s)he is stupid or should be off the road, just think they should ask for some help, and I tend to think this thread is just that, a cry for help and advice.
Good luck to them.

[Katman]

Had several friends die on bikes on the road, and all of them were awesome, safe, careful riders,

I think I just wee-weed.

[cowboyz]

, he dosnt need to be told


so what you are saying is that the lesson is so obvious that he doesnt need to be told and yet he managed to crash without figuring it out for himself before hand.

I would be quite insulted if I were him.

[zeocen]

Did you learn to ride at some point in your life, or were you a born expert, riding our of your mum's vagina on a litre bike, high fiving the doctor on the way out the door?:eek5:

Nope, I was just as squidly as the next person, thing is, I didn't get nicked for going 51kmph over my restricted speed, or was driving drunk, getting caught driving drunk, or lose my license and manage to bash a vehicle brand inbetween said circumstances.

You see, I didn't just go out and ride, I actively learnt how to ride before I endangered myself and others.

Bike is haunted? Sure mate, just like he was haunted into driving after drinking.

[cowboyz]

I think some people are talking the whole thing too literally. He had a shit week, yeah. Largely his own doing? yeah. Do accidents happen? yeah. Had several friends die on bikes on the road, and all of them were awesome, safe, careful riders, sometimes accidents happen, no matter how experienced/inexperienced you are. Im sure he will figure out what he can do to stop all this shit from happening again, and hopefuly he will undertake some mentoring or other riding courses, but I dont see the point effectively telling a learner they are stupid or whatever. We all learn at our own rate. some faster some slower. and we ALL make mistakes, maybe forgetting to indicate, or in a hurry braking in an emergency your fingers slip off the lever, it happens, and sometimes we dont even know we did it (the people behinds probably did though hahaha.
I hope the OP gets some lessons from an experienced rider, and stops drinking AT ALL if he is gonna ride. and learns to increase his following distance at all times. But I dont think (s)he is stupid or should be off the road, just think they should ask for some help, and I tend to think this thread is just that, a cry for help and advice.
Good luck to them.

Instead of percieving the advice given here as a bashing maybe he could just sit back and go, shit... that was really dumb, what could *I* do to avoid that happening again.

[Thani-B]

Risk assessment. 112km/hr while wearing an L plate on a commonly patrolled road after a couple of drinks? Seriously???

Two different times.



please at least tell us your hot? Got to be some excuse for running into the back of you when he was "plenty far enough behind"

Matter of opinion lol


It's the "she left me for another guy" thing.

Perhaps she just left you because of you...???

You dont know the circumstances or him, not a good track to go down. Personally I think hes a great guy.


how old's this kid? you never do anything stupid? hell I know I did, I was probably lucky to make it to 21, sure he's stupid for drink driving or saying its bad luck, but the point he is he needs to learn the facts, back off when you're following, remember you have room to stop beside car/bike and brake progression, he dosnt need to be told.

Younger than 21. And how many people havent driven after having a drink or two. At least hes not older and doing it, better to be learning while "young and stupid".


I think some people are talking the whole thing too literally. He had a shit week, yeah. Largely his own doing? yeah. Do accidents happen? yeah. Had several friends die on bikes on the road, and all of them were awesome, safe, careful riders, sometimes accidents happen, no matter how experienced/inexperienced you are. Im sure he will figure out what he can do to stop all this shit from happening again, and hopefuly he will undertake some mentoring or other riding courses, but I dont see the point effectively telling a learner they are stupid or whatever. We all learn at our own rate. some faster some slower. and we ALL make mistakes, maybe forgetting to indicate, or in a hurry braking in an emergency your fingers slip off the lever, it happens, and sometimes we dont even know we did it (the people behinds probably did though hahaha.
I hope the OP gets some lessons from an experienced rider, and stops drinking AT ALL if he is gonna ride. and learns to increase his following distance at all times. But I dont think (s)he is stupid or should be off the road, just think they should ask for some help, and I tend to think this thread is just that, a cry for help and advice.
Good luck to them.

Thank you.

[zeocen]

Yeah the best way to learn how to not drink and drive is to get caught. You're one hell of a friend, you fucking dick.
I sure as shit have never driven drunk and while I did do stupid shit "at that age" I most certainly didn't do stupid shit that ENDANGERED OTHERS, this includes OPERATING VEHICLES. Claiming ignorance and youth on this is absolutely laughable.

Glad he's off the road, good time to reflect on how he could have killed his mate if he was even less attentive.

[Two Smoker]

Just thought I would take this moment to say, fuck im awesome...

Yep what happened to him isnt bad luck, but you dont always make your own luck either.

[cowboyz]

Two different times.

so what you are saying is this is not a one off mistake, but a history of pushing the law and complaining about getting caught??


You dont know the circumstances or him, not a good track to go down. Personally I think hes a great guy.
unforunately, a guys greatness doesnt alway directly translate to ability **1

Younger than 21. And how many people havent driven after having a drink or two. At least hes not older and doing it, better to be learning while "young and stupid".

WTF???

Thank you.


Just thought I would take this moment to say, fuck im awesome...



**1, this is the obvious exception...............

[dipshit]

Younger than 21. And how many people havent driven after having a drink or two. At least hes not older and doing it, better to be learning while "young and stupid".


Of course this is New Zealand where being a loser is almost a cultural norm. :oi-grr:

[Laxi]

Yeah the best way to learn how to not drink and drive is to get caught. You're one hell of a friend, you fucking dick.
I sure as shit have never driven drunk and while I did do stupid shit "at that age" I most certainly didn't do stupid shit that ENDANGERED OTHERS, this includes OPERATING VEHICLES. Claiming ignorance and youth on this is absolutely laughable.

Glad he's off the road, good time to reflect on how he could have killed his mate if he was even less attentive.

as long as there are self rituous pricks like this who (quote:I most certainly didn't do stupid shit that ENDANGERED OTHERS) obviously have never gone over the speed limit, knicked a road sighn or over taken a car in their life (perfect citizen), you wont get good advice posting on here, my best advice is to find some of the non ego boosters and get advice from them

[Two Smoker]

while I did do stupid shit "at that age" I most certainly didn't do stupid shit that ENDANGERED OTHERS, this includes OPERATING VEHICLES. Claiming ignorance and youth on this is absolutely laughable.


I think 100% of drivers endager others lives. I guess we all better stop operating vehicles.

100% agree on the drink driving tho. Thats just wrong to do full stop.

[Freeatlast]

Yep what happened to him isnt bad luck, but you dont always make your own luck either.


no it is not bad luck. HE created his own problems...

[dipshit]

as long as there are self rituous pricks like this who (quote:I most certainly didn't do stupid shit that ENDANGERED OTHERS) obviously have never gone over the speed limit, knicked a road sighn or over taken a car in their life (perfect citizen), you wont get good advice posting on here, my best advice is to find some of the non ego boosters and get advice from them

Or call his mummy so she can make him feel better about himself again. :crybaby:

[Laxi]

Or call his mummy so she can make him feel better about himself again. :crybaby:

nah1 he can ust do like everyone else and call yours:Pokey:

[cowboyz]

I think 100% of drivers endager others lives. I guess we all better stop operating vehicles.

100% agree on the drink driving tho. Thats just wrong to do full stop.

bikes dont kill people, people kill people, as well as birds and pigs.......

[Thani-B]

so what you are saying is this is not a one off mistake, but a history of pushing the law and complaining about getting caught??


He was venting, not complaining.



unforunately, a guys greatness doesnt alway directly translate to ability **1


That was in regards to the comment about his gf leaving him because of him, not for another guy.

And I was meaning that learning the lesson while he is still young will benefit him more in the long run, and its not like he's older and acting stupid doing these things.

[Two Smoker]

[/B]


no it is not bad luck. HE created his own problems...

lol sorry, forgot to say my england is awesome.

What happened to him was not bad luck. They could have all been stopped before hand. Yes the crash happened. But shit happens. You need to learn from your mistake. NOT blame it on other things.

Life is not about making your own luck. Sometimes good things happen, and sometimes shit things happen. On the 12th of March 2006, I could have done nothing differently to stop me hitting the wall at 200kmh at Puke. I dont blame anyone/anything for that crash. It just happened and it was shit.

[Whynot]

Just thought I would take this moment to say, fuck im awesome...

Hey, me too .... what a coincidence :)

[cowboyz]

He was venting, not complaining.

the word "venting" was created so people could complain without responsibility.

That was in regards to the comment about his gf leaving him because of him, not for another guy.
obviously not good enough for her.
And I was meaning that learning the lesson while he is still young will benefit him more in the long run, and its not like he's older and acting stupid doing these things.
again... WTF?
So the new defense is that I am young, dumb and full o........ No actually, that excuse didnt wash in the 70s.. 40 yrs later it still recieves the standard, "dumbarse" label.



Hey, me too .... what a coincidence :)

:Oi: anyone else want to put their hand up?

[Two Smoker]

:Oi: anyone else want to put their hand up?

Oh ok, me too... im doubley awesome... Wheres Jay Racer, HDT_boy, white trash, the stranger, motoracer, boomer, firefight (its a long list, ill leave it at that for the mo)? They are awesome too...

[dipshit]

And I was meaning that learning the lesson while he is still young will benefit him more in the long run, and its not like he's older and acting stupid doing these things.

Some people manage to spend their whole lives blaming all their misfortunes on everything and everybody else.

They usually end up by the age of 45 living in a council flat, broke, never held a job for very long... any vehicle they had didn't last long... like their relationships... and the only thing they have to look forward to week after week is bullshit sessions with their other loser mates going on and on about how shit and unfair the world is, over some Jim Beam's.

[cowboyz]

ok, that does it. If stranger is in then I am definitely in..........

[EJK]

Don't we bikers go to a bar for a drink after a meeting? Even after a learners event such as AWNR? And who are we to tell him about drink driving? Well he just left the bar abit early, but hey! We once did that too didn't we?

Well if you didn't, you are a bloody legend. But that doesn't mean you have the rights to criticize him "Oh hey hey! I didn't drink and drive! I'm better than you!" does it?

[cowboyz]

Don't we bikers go to a bar for a drink after a meeting? Even after a learners event such as AWNR? And who are we to tell him about drink driving? Well he just left the bar abit early, but hey! We once did that too didn't we?

Well if you didn't, you are a bloody legend. But that doesn't mean you have the rights to criticize him "Oh hey hey! I didn't drink and drive! I'm better than you!" does it?

we have the friday night rides down this way in the summer and every week it ends at a bar somewhere.

Funny enough, bars sell coke and orange juice as well! No excuse

[EJK]

we have the friday night rides down this way in the summer and every week it ends at a bar somewhere.

Funny enough, bars sell coke and orange juice as well! No excuse

Maybe latte, flat whites and hot chocholates too. But some do get a pint.

[MaxB]

Even if I am generous and go along with the 'bad luck you fell off' idea the rest of it is self inflicted. That is the stuff you have to face up to, try and learn from and move on. Accepting responsibility for your actions is part of growing up.

Life is going to throw all kinds of shit your way, it how you deal with it that matters.

[Squiggles]

And I was meaning that learning the lesson while he is still young will benefit him more in the long run, and its not like he's older and acting stupid doing these things.

If by that you mean he has the chance to change now before it just becomes who he is well, i suppose we'll see, he managed to clock up the 100 without learning...

As for the accident, ya look down ya go down, take that onboard and practise practise practise.

[The Stranger]

ok, that does it. If stranger is in then I am definitely in..........

Sorry, there is no more room up here for you.

[zeocen]

as long as there are self rituous pricks like this who (quote:I most certainly didn't do stupid shit that ENDANGERED OTHERS) obviously have never gone over the speed limit, knicked a road sighn or over taken a car in their life (perfect citizen), you wont get good advice posting on here, my best advice is to find some of the non ego boosters and get advice from them

Hahah, self righteous. That's me to a tee.
Stupid shit endangering others = DRIVING DRUNK. Are you fucking kidding me?
I'm the first to admit I've got a long way to go in this motorcycle game we play, but I sure as shit don't increase my chances of stupidity by actively going out of my way to do incredibly stupid acts.

It's cool that you're defending your fellow biker but I think it's blinding you from the fact that, compared to this guy, yes, some of us ARE saints. Feel free to get some character references from people who ride with me :)

[The Stranger]

Oh ok, me too... im doubley awesome... Wheres Jay Racer, HDT_boy, white trash, the stranger, motoracer, boomer, firefight (its a long list, ill leave it at that for the mo)? They are awesome too...

That's cause I have 400 babies and still have lots of menergy.

[Jantar]

....You dont know the circumstances or him, not a good track to go down. Personally I think hes a great guy.
.....

In which case I would say his girl friend leaving him was good luck. :hug:

The rest was self inflicted, but it does appear he may be willing to learn from his mistakes.

[Two Smoker]

That's cause I have 400 babies and still have lots of menergy.

BAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Have you tried the new flavours? Fizzbitch, Manana and GUN... they give you gratuitous aounts of energy...

[Ixion]

Perhaps, now that the errant gentleman has had his personality defects and character failings sufficiently pointed out to him, (motorcycling being, as we all know, the high holy place of the spiritually spotless), someone might help him with some practical observations of how he might handle such problems in the future?

Starting with : only a very expereinced rider can look at the ground by his front wheel and not end up there (this has been mentioned but rather got lost in the serminising)

And : Motorcycles are not good under heavy braking. What we are very good at is dodging and avoiding. Those who come late to riding tend to bring cager instincts with them - in emergency stand on the brakes and pray. Those do not always serve them well on a bike. There is almost always (there are exceptions) *somewhere* to go where the danger is not.

But, if you have already expended all your traction budget on braking you have none left for turning , and attempting to swerve will almost certainly mean a front wheel wash out , something that even the most experiened rider will struggle to control.

Braking should be primarily to buy some time to identify the bolt hole that will take you where the danger is not. And not so heavily that there is no budget left for swerving.

I must caution that this is heretical. But it has stood me in good stead for over 40 years.

[The Stranger]

BAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Have you tried the new flavours? Fizzbitch, Manana and GUN... they give you gratuitous aounts of energy...

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[monkeymsea]

Risk assessment. 112km/hr while wearing an L plate on a commonly patrolled road after a couple of drinks? Seriously???


Just to clear some things up. I did not drink and ride it was in my cage was a completely different time then my ticket which was on the motorway following cars.. Not saying that this is in anyway okay.. I am a fuckwit for drinking and driving I wasn't aware that 2 drinks over 4 hours would have put me over..

I thoght the reason I have an L plate on my bike means im a LEARNER

I am truely sorry that my riding isnt up to the standards of some of you guys that have been riding for years... Guess I wasnt born with a motorbike helmet like some of you guys seem to have been.

None of you know me apart from a few post I have put here.. It is easy to judge sitting behind a keyboard..

Another thing everyone has come in to judge me.. Has anyone asked if im alright? I think not.
I'm okay by the way in case anyone is wondering.

[Thani-B]

... Has anyone asked if im alright? I think not. I'm okay by the way in case anyone is wondering.

Me too guys, thanks for asking.

[monkeymsea]

One more thing as i file through my new fan base..
I am not blaming everything on luck.. I made the mistakes. It was all my fault I know this.. But thanks everyone for making sure I know...

[Two Smoker]

One more thing as i file through my new fan base..
I am not blaming everything on luck.. I made the mistakes. It was all my fault I know this.. But thanks everyone for making sure I know...

That should shut the buggers up... I feel like a powerthirst now...

[monkeymsea]

It doesn't take much monkeymsea, for the frenzy to start once the burly has been laid.
I have seen it happen a few times on here, where, all it takes is one person to start the jibbing and others just jump in for the sake of it.
Where you went wrong, was to post that all that shit that happened previously...and thats all anyone will concerntrate on given the chance.
What I didnt see was those Mentors that posted, give you any idea on how to correct what happened. Maybe you got a pm?

Either way, stick to facts in future and ya cant go wrong....most of the time....:whistle:

I have learnt now to be careful what I say on here, everyone has something to say... Quiet funny really..

Where can I get a powerthirst?

[Two Smoker]

I have learnt now to be careful what I say on here, everyone has something to say... Quiet funny really..

Where can I get a powerthirst?

Hmmm maybe i should buy the rights to it and start producing powerthhirst... Coz i have yet to find any...

[monkeymsea]

Hmmm maybe i should buy the rights to it and start producing powerthhirst... Coz i have yet to find any...


We could go into business haha

[Freeatlast]

I have learnt now to be careful what I say on here, everyone has something to say... Quiet funny really..

Where can I get a powerthirst?

Get a Honda it will satisfy your powerthirst :whistle:

[Two Smoker]

Get a Honda it will satisfy your powerthirst :whistle:


Honda's need power first, to satisfy the thirst... hehehe

[dipshit]

One more thing as i file through my new fan base..
I am not blaming everything on luck..

Don't bullshit us.

Thread titled..

"Bad luck continues."

And...

"Just wanted to have a vent about my bad luck..."

"Get my licence back last tuesday and I start thinking my luck is changing"

"BAdluck comes in now"

"Im starting to think my bike is haunted..."

Did you think it was cool or something to brag about losing your licence and everything...???

[Headbanger]

Right, I'm off to get boozed and go for a ride.

Wish me luck.

[monkeymsea]

Don't bullshit us.

Thread titled..

"Bad luck continues."

And...

"Just wanted to have a vent about my bad luck..."

"Get my licence back last tuesday and I start thinking my luck is changing"

"BAdluck comes in now"

"Im starting to think my bike is haunted..."

Did you think it was cool and something to brag about with losing your licence and everything...???

I have admitted it is all my fault what else can I say?

[Maha]

I will have a crack at this....

''Coming into puke just cruising. I was following thani when the car in front of her slams on the brakes. Thani slams on the brakes also. All I remember seeing is her rear tyre lock up then look down and see my front tyre lock up (I think). Next thing I knew I was on the ground and bits of my faring are all over the road. We then dislodged my bike from thani's and put them to the side of the road.''

Firstly....Your following distance needs attention.
Keep enough room between you and another bike to give yourself an out if something goes wrong.

Next...You reaction time is not good.
Following distance and position help with your reaction time
ie: you see more if you can see.

And then...Your position when following another bike on the road needs looking at.
Dont ride directly behind another bike, if something goes wrong, you will be involved. Ride to the outer right if possible at any time.

Emergency or progressive braking is a skill you need to learn.
Have you ever done a Basic Handling Course?
If not, then I suggest you get onto it, and practice the emergency braking, it has helped me on two occassions.

There are those around that can explain things a little better if you give them the time.

[The Stranger]

Firstly....Your following distance needs attention.
Keep enough room between you and another bike to give yourself an out if something goes wrong.



Yet the fact remains, his following distance was fine.

These points are all covered already, what is the purpose of reiterating, the information. I will add information where it is missed - I did.
Short simple and too the point, two words, all that were needed.

However, I suspect by now the message is well and truely through and no argument against will be raised.
If so mission accomplished, if not then they are simply too thick and need more time/accidents to work it out.

[dipshit]

I have admitted it is all my fault what else can I say?


Then what was this whole plea for sympathy about then..???

[Ixion]

..

Next...You reaction time is not good.
Following distance and position help with your reaction time
ie: you see more if you can see.

..

Actually, I would be inclined to argue that his reaction time was *too* good.

Panic braking, and emergency braking are two quite different things.

One of the most common errors of novices (especially young ones with real fast reactions), is OMG WTF , reaction grab a handful of front brake and slam it on hard as. All done before the thinking part of the brain catches up. And by the time the thinking stuff works out "Oh, shit , maybe not THAT hard", the front wheel's locked.

What is wanted is not a fistful of brake, but rather a steady progressive squeeze, governed by thought not blind reaction.

Easier for us old dodderers, since by the time our knarled old hands have tremblingly reached the lever our thinking brains have had time to fight their way through the alzheimic fog and shriek "Not too hard. Modulate. Modulate". The braking distance may be a metre longer, but the bike stays upright.

That 0.2 of a second quicker on the brake lever can be dearly bought.

[Laxi]

Don't bullshit us.

Thread titled..

"Bad luck continues."

And...

"Just wanted to have a vent about my bad luck..."

"Get my licence back last tuesday and I start thinking my luck is changing"

"BAdluck comes in now"

"Im starting to think my bike is haunted..."

Did you think it was cool and something to brag about with losing your licence and everything...???


Then what was this whole plea for sympathy about then..???

and on! f.f.s let it go

[Duc]

One more thing as i file through my new fan base..
I am not blaming everything on luck.. I made the mistakes. It was all my fault I know this.. But thanks everyone for making sure I know...

What many of us wanted for you, was to see if you knew what you did wrong in this instance. That was "guidance and mentoring".

To date...you and 'Thani' still seem to think that it was an un avoidable incident.

Well .. I agree with you as long as both your attitudes and skills remain at that level (so it will happen again). If you can not get control of your bike at 50-80 kph you are never going to be able to safely enjoy the potential of a bike unless you take on board some of the very good advice given in this thread. (ie following distances, overlaps, attention, target fixation, braking technique)

Use the front brake!

Suggestion: Google up an article called 'The Pace' by Nick Inestach or read his book. 'Sport Riding Techniques' (One of the best MC riding books around IMHO)

[Freeatlast]

Increasing the following distance, allows more time for you to react. The further back you are, in relation to that front bike, the less important your position in the road is.
The law tends to hammer any motorist (car or bike) that collides with the vehicle in front. Regardless on how stupid the actions of that front vehicle were.

[Thani-B]

What many of us wanted for you, was to see if you knew what you did wrong in this instance. That was "guidance and mentoring".

To date...you and 'Thani' still seem to think that it was an un avoidable incident.

Well .. I agree with you as long as both your attitudes and skills remain at that level (so it will happen again). If you can not get control of your bike at 50-80 kph you are never going to be able to safely enjoy the potential of a bike unless you take on board some of the very good advice given in this thread. (ie following distances, overlaps, attention, target fixation, braking technique)

Use the front brake!

Suggestion: Google up an article called 'The Pace' by Nick Inestach or read his book. 'Sport Riding Techniques' (One of the best MC riding books around IMHO)

Sorry, I just want to clarify, I wasnt saying it was unavoidable. If he hadn't hit me I might have been fine. But like I did say before, we both handled it how we could at the time. I didnt want to be in the ditch with the bike on top of me, or under a car coming the other way. Theres not anything we can do about changing how it turned out now. Can only learn from it. We have been offered braking lessons, and might take the offer up when his bike is road legal again.

[Howsie]

Just to clear some things up. I did not drink and ride it was in my cage was a completely different time then my ticket which was on the motorway following cars.. Not saying that this is in anyway okay.. I am a fuckwit for drinking and driving I wasn't aware that 2 drinks over 4 hours would have put me over..

I thoght the reason I have an L plate on my bike means im a LEARNER

I am truely sorry that my riding isnt up to the standards of some of you guys that have been riding for years... Guess I wasnt born with a motorbike helmet like some of you guys seem to have been.

None of you know me apart from a few post I have put here.. It is easy to judge sitting behind a keyboard..

Another thing everyone has come in to judge me.. Has anyone asked if im alright? I think not.
I'm okay by the way in case anyone is wondering.

Mate, good to hear that you are ok after your bin. Obviously there has been more than riding lessons learnt here.

Think of posting as public speaking, it helps.


Im always keen to go for a ride so flick me a PM and we can head out somewhere. Ill show you a few things iv learnt so far.

Shiny side up bro!

[dipshit]

Sorry, I just want to clarify, I wasnt saying it was unavoidable. If he hadn't hit me I might have been fine. But like I did say before, we both handled it how we could at the time.

This is one of those gay things that happen when a few motorcyclists go out on a wee ride together. They end up riding as a single entity for some strange reason... like not wanting to get separated on their little ride. When someone does start to fall behind they start going harder to catch up. The rider behind will simply concentrate on following the rider in front instead of riding their own ride at their own pace.

One way to avoid this is to have a planned point where everyone will meet up again... so everyone can just ride their own ride at their own pace with plenty of space.

It's one of those quirks motorcyclists have.

[cowboyz]

Not saying that this is in anyway okay.. I am a fuckwit for drinking and driving I wasn't aware that 2 drinks over 4 hours would have put me over..

I thoght the reason I have an L plate on my bike means im a LEARNER

I am truely sorry that my riding isnt up to the standards of some of you guys that have been riding for years... Guess I wasnt born with a motorbike helmet like some of you guys seem to have been.

None of you know me apart from a few post I have put here.. It is easy to judge sitting behind a keyboard..

Another thing everyone has come in to judge me.. Has anyone asked if im alright? I think not.
I'm okay by the way in case anyone is wondering.
ok. few points here.

I have recently (read, in the last 10 mins) returned from a wedding of a very good mate of mine that I have known for over 20 years. Great wedding. great day. Now I knew before I went that I would be driving home so during the whole day, including toasts and speeches I consumed zero alcohol. Of course this is a personal choice as I have zero tolerance for drinking and driving. Unfortunately, it also means I have zero sympathy for those who get DIC charges. Dont care for a second if you *thought* you were clear. You werent. Accept it and dont think for a single second that any sympathy will be coming my way for you.

sorry. will remove second point as I got you confused with another thread.

third point. I dont accept the whole, hiding behind keyboard thing. If you were sitting in front of me you would get WAY worse that simply what I can get fucked typing out. I am known as cowboyz. I live in ashhurst. Anytime you are passing through ask anyone and they will probably know who and where I am. I am more than happy to say everything to your face.

fourth point. If you werent ok you would have added it to your bad luck story so no point in asking.


Right, I'm off to get boozed and go for a ride.

Wish me luck.

Head due west as fast as you can.

[YellowDog]

It's the "she left me for another guy" thing.

Perhaps she just left you because of you...???
I think you'll find that the other guy had a huge knob and some balls :)

I think we're done this one to death and if the mesaage has yet to get accross................

[prettybillie]

you must be gutted and i commiserate on that basis...hope you get your bike back together soon and get to do some enjoyable riding...

But this "get done for dic for blowing 232 (damn being under 20)" ain't bad luck.

Thats something to be ashamed of.

good answer!!!!!

[skidMark]

Leave him alone its not his reactions that are the problem...

its cus he cant see over the tint screen.
tehe... he knows im just playin lol

[LBD]

You could buy my bike. It has an anti haunt charm standard because it is a honda ;)

Damn right...the supenatural know better than to have anything to do with a Honda...:bleh:

[Lilly2w]

what a bad arse!


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[ducatilover]

Damn right...the supenatural know better than to have anything to do with a Honda...:bleh:

Don't tell the secret to everybody! :spanking:

[DarkLord]

Hey all

Just wanted to have a vent about my bad luck...

Here is the summary of last year
Girlfriend leaves me for some fuck wit that drives a honda (damn hondas)
Get my first ticket ($600) on bike for gong 112 on the motorway (damn L plate)
Get done for DIC for blowing 232 (damn being under 20)
DIC demeret points put me over for demerits too
Lost licence for 5 months all together

Get my licence back last tuesday and I start thinking by luck is changing
Get some zxr bits off Skidmark (still happy at this point)
Wednesday night spend from 5pm till midnight putting the zxr back together

BAdluck comes in now
As I was on the computer researching why my new indicators didnt flash some little fucker ran up my drive way and stole my helmet which was sitting in my garage..
I borrow a helmet off a mate while Mr Motorcycles order me in a new one..
Thani comes over to go for a ride.. I suit up and we head off.

Coming into puke just cruising. I was following thani when the car in front of her slams on the brakes. Thani slams on the brakes also. All I remember seeing is her rear tyre lock up then look down and see my front tyre lock up (I think). Next thing I knew I was on the ground and bits of my faring are all over the road. We then dislodged my bike from thani's and put them to the side of the road.

Car was fine, Thanis mighty GN had a bent number plate.. And my bike well I need.

New headlights
New top fairing
New mudaurd at the front
Left Fairing

anyways my venting is over.

Im starting to think my bike is haunted... Maybe I should throw in the towel lol

Some of that, such as having your helmet stolen, is bad luck. I can sympathize as I just had mine stolen recently as well (not that I'm too fussed as I needed a new one anyway).

But, to be honest, most of this is because of you being a douche, and riding like a douche.

You shouldn't be drinking driving. No bad luck there. Only you doing something dumb, and being punished. If you are going to do more than 70 on the motorway with L plates on, for crying out loud at least keep it under 100.

With the crash, you guys were both following way too close and should be prepared for things like that. If you are insured, expect the insurance companies to blame you.

I wouldn't go looking for sympathy round here with a list like the one you've given us, mate. Just giving you a heads up. But something tells me you may have realised that already....

[caseye]

Done to death I'd say.

Question, once you are mobile again and are riding legally, with a licence and without any grog on board, are you going to simply ride as you always have or are you going to make a real effort to find out how to stop in a hurry and how far back you should be , etc, etc, i'm sure you have got all this from the others but I'd just like to know that eventually you got over the apparent abuse and took it all on board.
That way none of what has ben written here was wasted and we just might have another KB'er who lives to be a hunred!

[fj20_180b]

You know some would see you as having good luck..

lucky to have a gf to start with... and maybe you were lucky she left you and didn't just sleep around and give you herpes or some shit.

You're lucky you got caught speeding and drink driving and didn't kill yourself or anyone else, or get locked up or banned from driving for years

Lucky you have good mates that lend you gear

Lucky the accident wasn't heaps worse as it sounds like it could have been