Street fighter time?

[Brownstoo]

Well an old lady knocked my already rangi looking FZ over yesterday, breaking and indicator, and some other bits of plastic. I've since found out that second hand bits like this don't exist, and new ones cost an arm an a leg (quoted about 5-6 hundy for a fairing).

Firstly I love the idea of a streat fighter, the only reason I didn't do it straight away is that the tank/airbox combo looks like absolute ass without the fairings. Now that this has happened I'm leaning towards switching tanks (maybe an FZR tank?) and changing the airbox.

Question: Do I need to retune the carbs for a different airbox?

Also, is it worth going to the trouble of changing tanks and everything for the convenience of not having to go looking for expensive, obscure bits of plastic every time one breaks? I enjoy a bit of work (on bikes anyway) as long as it doesn't cost too much money...

[sil3nt]

Surely the lady would have to pay for damaging your bike?

[Brownstoo]

It was my girlfriends landlord person, and it was kinda a bit of a misjudgement on my part, but mostly just carelessness on her part, she thinks its my fault though. I could push it and probably get her to pay, but what hapens when it's all my fault, then I have to pay anyway..

[R6_kid]

Unless you were there and rode the bike into her, it's her fault - assuming that the bike was parked and stationary at the time, and she hit it with her car. She should pay to get it back to how it was, at very least make it safe to ride.

Otherwise go hard with the street fightering it if thats what you want to do. If you change the airbox you're likely to lose a lot of low and mid RPM power in sacrifice for more high end power. Of course it is a 250, so you'll notice the loss a lot more than the gain.

Put up some pics perhaps?

[short-circuit]

Very convoluted explanation. You sure didn't didn't just drop it :whistle:

But yeah, streetfighter time. Fairings are for fairies

[The Pastor]

the fzr is the one bike that i will join the "dont do it bro" bandwagon on.

Typically I say if its your ride and you want to go for it, modifying bikes is fun.

But with the fzr250 the fact of the matter is it will blow up. unreliable bikes

[Brownstoo]

Unless you were there and rode the bike into her, it's her fault - assuming that the bike was parked and stationary at the time, and she hit it with her car. She should pay to get it back to how it was, at very least make it safe to ride.

Otherwise go hard with the street fightering it if thats what you want to do. If you change the airbox you're likely to lose a lot of low and mid RPM power in sacrifice for more high end power. Of course it is a 250, so you'll notice the loss a lot more than the gain.

Put up some pics perhaps?

Nah I didn't know about it till she told me. They have a garage door which opens a bit longer than usual and blah blah blah I parked too close and it got knocked over. She did try to stop it but she admitted she thought it might be a bit too close but she did it anyway.

Anyway that's not really the point here anyway. So lose power that it doesn't really have anyway, and get more high end which is where it's at anyway... hmm
Is the airbox about volume or is it shaped specifically too? And tuning it won't do anything about that?

Yup here's a pic of the bike before, the damage is on the other side anyway.

[Brownstoo]

Very convoluted explanation. You sure didn't didn't just drop it :whistle:

But yeah, streetfighter time. Fairings are for fairies

I'd almost be proud of dropping it... Nah I'm still getting used to the whole riding a bike on the road thing.

Rich fairies.


the fzr is the one bike that i will join the "dont do it bro" bandwagon on.
Typically I say if its your ride and you want to go for it, modifying bikes is fun.
But with the fzr250 the fact of the matter is it will blow up. unreliable bikes

Really? this ones got 70 od on the clock and the only thing I see wrong is it could probably do with a new set of rings. All I can say is I haven't heard any horror stories yet...
But yeah doing the work is half the fun

[sil3nt]

Don't worry if you talk to enough people on here you will find that every bike is an unreliable piece of crap that is going to blow up next time you hit the starter button.

[ducatilover]

I personally wouldn't go playing with the air box.

[Brownstoo]

Well I'll see what happens with other air boxes, I was under the impression though that airboxes only really did much when you started picking up speed

Anyway This is what the bike looks out without plastic... :sick:

[ducatilover]

Well I'll see what happens with other air boxes, I was under the impression though that airboxes only really did much when you started picking up speed

Anyway This is what the bike looks out without plastic... :sick:

The air box is there for a reason, not just to ram air or just direct air, It is of specific size to help with vacuum. I have played with air boxes and best not too fuck with them if you have cv carbs in my experience ;) Have fun though mate, should look sweet when you are done

[Brownstoo]

Yeah well I don't really know anything about airboxes, besides about ram induction, and how I'll probably lose that effect if I change the shape, but I'm a crash course learner.
Best way to find stuff out is good ol' trial and error! And also the most fun had while finding stuff out.

[Metalor]

I'm playing street fighter 4 at the moment and getting owned by my mates...

[ducatilover]

Yeah well I don't really know anything about airboxes, besides about ram induction, and how I'll probably lose that effect if I change the shape, but I'm a crash course learner.
Best way to find stuff out is good ol' trial and error! And also the most fun had while finding stuff out.

Go for it dude, don't complain if you get unlucky and melt or crack a piston:crazy:

[frogamic]

Well street fighters really are cool but I have to say you have the most unfortunate tank/airbox I have ever seen lol. Could you perhaps cover it with something? Maybe chop up the fairings so they just cover the tank/airbox?

[Brownstoo]

Heh, yeah I dunno what they were thinking with that...
Well I though about it. But the fairings that cover the tank are rather fucked. Most of the bolt holes and mount points are broken.
Might do that while I get gauges n headlights n stuff sorted.

[Brownstoo]

Go for it dude, don't complain if you get unlucky and melt or crack a piston:crazy:

I've been doing a bit of reading on that, and the theory says ram air only helps when you're running at certain revs, which would mean that the bike runs a bit rich then, and lean at other revs.
I don't really get how an airbox mod could end up as broken pistons...

[ducatilover]

I've been doing a bit of reading on that, and the theory says ram air only helps when you're running at certain revs, which would mean that the bike runs a bit rich then, and lean at other revs.
I don't really get how an airbox mod could end up as broken pistons...

Lean running causing too much heat and/or detonation. I have just started a thread on how to set up my bike as an open carb system, also heres a link to Renegade masters open carb set up it may help a bit http://www.cr-x.org/cbr250/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=55555&whichpage=1

Go hard man, and good luck. Should go quite good if you get the set up right;)

[Brownstoo]

Oh yeah, makes sence.
Sweet yeah just saw that thread, I'll be following that one. Had a bit of a read of Renegades old one too, thanks man.

[Brownstoo]

I seem to recall FZRs haveing the same airbox/tank configuration? Coz I was thinking one of those tank cover things might cover the ugly bits.
That might be easier than taking the box out and open carbing it. I'd love to get stuck in with the re jetting and getting my hands dirty but uni is starting to pick up speed. And I don't think I'll have time for both...

[ducatilover]

I have never looked that close at the fzr. I have pulled a phazer to bits though.
It would look neat with an fzr tank/cover thingy:yes: and some sexy twin headlights

[Brownstoo]

Right. Here we go, I started getting ready to do a compression test, pulled the plug leads off grounded them on the frame, gave the thing a good blast to get rid of all the bits of crap sitting there and whipped the plugs out. Took a look to make sure it's all nice and clean before I start, it's all g, just some black stuff that I couldn't dislodge with a toothbrush or a screwdriver...
First cylender, jam the tester in, nothing. It wasn't sealing so took a look, and there's this big ol bit of tar seal or something on the edge of the hole, which slowly rolls over and and drops into the cylender, while I helplessly yell NOOOOOOOOOOOO! :bash:

The piston is pretty much TDC, but the valves generally don't open big enough to let that sorta shit out right?
So all I'm left with is ripping the head off, or else whatever it was is most likely plow up the sleave real nice yeah?

[ducatilover]

Right. Here we go, I started getting ready to do a compression test, pulled the plug leads off grounded them on the frame, gave the thing a good blast to get rid of all the bits of crap sitting there and whipped the plugs out. Took a look to make sure it's all nice and clean before I start, it's all g, just some black stuff that I couldn't dislodge with a toothbrush or a screwdriver...
First cylender, jam the tester in, nothing. It wasn't sealing so took a look, and there's this big ol bit of tar seal or something on the edge of the hole, which slowly rolls over and and drops into the cylender, while I helplessly yell NOOOOOOOOOOOO! :bash:

The piston is pretty much TDC, but the valves generally don't open big enough to let that sorta shit out right?
So all I'm left with is ripping the head off, or else whatever it was is most likely plow up the sleave real nice yeah?

Try sucking the bastard out before ripping a into it bro. It's a long shot but may just work. If you leave it in there you will probably smack a few valves around, fucked sleeve, fucked valve, fucked piston and a few other bits...

good luck dude:first:

[Brownstoo]

Try sucking the bastard out before ripping a into it bro. It's a long shot but may just work. If you leave it in there you will probably smack a few valves around, fucked sleeve, fucked valve, fucked piston and a few other bits...

good luck dude:first:

Yeah bro that's exactly what I did. Sat and had a think after the initial panic and whacked a bit of flexible tube on the end of a vacuum cleaner hose. Sucked the bastard out nice and easy.
I then found out the gauge I got from supercheap doesn't fit between the rocker covers far enough for a good seal anyway so I'm going have to go try exchange it for one with the tube and the screw in thing. I'll get there eventually...

[ducatilover]

Yeah bro that's exactly what I did. Sat and had a think after the initial panic and whacked a bit of flexible tube on the end of a vacuum cleaner hose. Sucked the bastard out nice and easy.
I then found out the gauge I got from supercheap doesn't fit between the rocker covers far enough for a good seal anyway so I'm going have to go try exchange it for one with the tube and the screw in thing. I'll get there eventually...

Glad to hear you got the bastard out. Damn supercheap crap :spanking: What kind of compression should it be running? 195 +\- 10psi?

[Brownstoo]

Yeah shoulda just gone to repco... Ah well, I'll see what supercheaps return policy is like and go from there...
Apparently it's supposed to be about 145psi (specs say 981kpa) which I thought was a little low for a 12:1 ratio. I'll see what the numbers look like when I actually do the test though.

[Sidewinder]

buy a 1000!

[Brownstoo]

buy a 1000!

Someday when I finish being a student and get a real licence... But it'll more likely be a 600.

[Sidewinder]

Someday when I finish being a student and get a real licence... But it'll more likely be a 600.

nup 1000, the way to go

[Brownstoo]

nup 1000, the way to go

nah 600. Haven't seen a 1000 that I'd like to own.

[Sidewinder]

nah 600. Haven't seen a 1000 that I'd like to own.

they are almost the same!

[Brownstoo]

they are almost the same!

Yet so different...

[Sidewinder]

Yet so different...

well better than a 250 id say!

[Brownstoo]

well better than a 250 id say!

Oh yes! 2 years to go!!!

[Sidewinder]

Oh yes! 2 years to go!!!

i only got my restricked and in total lost my lience for 9months aswell and rode and did the runners in that time!

[carver]

nah 600. Haven't seen a 1000 that I'd like to own.

well, wait till you ride them.

liter bikes are the way to go, same price, but less thrashed and trashed, and so much more power!

[Brownstoo]

i only got my restricked and in total lost my lience for 9months aswell and rode and did the runners in that time!

Yeah, got most of the silliness out of my system getting my cage license. It'll be catching up to me on two wheels sometime soon though!

[Sidewinder]

Yeah, got most of the silliness out of my system getting my cage license. It'll be catching up to me on two wheels sometime soon though!

yup and just go hard on the 1000 you pussy!

[Brownstoo]

yup and just go hard on the 1000 you pussy!

600 you mean...

[carver]

600 you mean...

for the same money, whats the advantage?:chase:

[Sidewinder]

600 you mean...

nah i said 1000 didnt i!

[hayd3n]

600 al g itll still pull 260

[Lula]

Firstly I love the idea of a streat fighter

Come join the Rat Bike movement:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=99492

[carver]

Come join the Rat Bike movement:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=99492

dont!

its a trap!

[Lula]

dont!

its a trap!

I'll have you know snares and traps is just one of my many talents - you should see my impressive collection of furs sometime :devil2:

Don't be put off by Caver's comment, just see our latest testimonial:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=99492&page=6

[Brownstoo]

That looks kickass. He's prolly just Jelous...

Oh and hi5 for the stripling! They're the bikes I like the most ever!

[carver]

That looks kickass. He's prolly just Jelous...

Oh and hi5 for the stripling! They're the bikes I like the most ever!

you must be gay, even i look like a homo on one~

[Brownstoo]

Well it could be worse. I mean I could ride a honda or something.

[ducatilover]

Well it could be worse. I mean I could ride a honda or something.

Yeah, Fuck that:shutup:

[Lula]

Get a Rat Bike!

[carver]

Get a Rat Bike!

not another over opinionated women on here....

come on guys, stand up for yourselves

[Lula]

Ok who wants a ride on my Rat Bike?

[dpex]

I personally wouldn't go playing with the air box.

I agree. Personally, I'd be having a go at playing with old lady....but that's age thing. Mumble.

[ducatilover]

I agree. Personally, I'd be having a go at playing with old lady....but that's age thing. Mumble.

The only thing worse than plastic tits is a card board box :niceone: