• Three Strikes Protest Run, 5 May

    Support the three strikes demonstration ride
    Thursday 5th May 12 noon

    The government has struck out at us three times now. We will not tolerate this any longer, and it is time we showed them!

    What they have done:

    1) Used bikers as a smokescreen to mask the introduction of risk based levies, and massive levy increases.
    2) Attempted to justify the hike with misleading statistics and unjustified financial model changes.
    3) Ramped up roadside 'safety' checks - in reality poorly disguised rego and WOF checks - and now the introduction of demerits for unlicensed vehicles.
    What they deliberately overlook:


    They tout the risk based system as being fairer for everyone, by arbitrarily creating different road user groups and charging based on the likely treatment cost. Well many of us own multiple vehicles, so appear in those groups and pay more than once. How is it fair we pay multiple levies yet are only eligible for a single treatment? How can they justify a minimum three month on hold period, when that makes it so expensive to be law abiding with infrequently ridden bikes? And to assume all drivers in each class have the same level of risk is at the very least idiotic, if not irresponsible; with the implication that safer vehicles are more important than safer drivers. The myriad of different variables needed to create a truly fair risk based system would create massive administrative overheads to process. This is a system that is not required, not wanted and moves ACC yet further away from the Woodhouse principles towards private insurance.


    What we demand they do:

    1) Remove the vehicle-based levies, to be replaced with a fuel-based levy collection system as a first step, ultimately returning to the Woodhouse Principles.
    2) The minimum on-hold period of three months to be removed.
    3) All political parties make their stance known about ACC: whether they are in favour of the no-fault Woodhouse system, if they agree with the move to full future funding, where they stand on risk-based levies and if they would agree to private insurers in the system.


    What can you do?

    Support the three strikes demonstration ride; this will take place on Thursday 5th May 12 noon. The idea is that you meet up with other protesters, ride together to the local ACC offices, then ride to the National party offices (because we all know who is really behind this crap). At both locations you will arrange yourselves to present a smokescreen of motorcycles: we’ll let them see us and hear us! There will be a letter to noisily deliver to each location stating our grievances and demands. Meeting points to be announced when finalised.

    Currently we have ride coordinators for Auckland, Wellington and Tauranga if you would like to organise one in your region let us know!
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Three Strikes Protest Run, 5 May started by MAG-NZ Inc View original post
    Comments 273 Comments
    1. Maha's Avatar
      Maha -
      Quote Originally Posted by kiwijimbo View Post
      i agree with the acc rates protest but why the hell have it on a workday when the majority of blokes & chics are working ????
      Maximum exposure.
      I know there were a number of people who wanted the Bikio of 09' to happen on a weekend, but why?...nobody around at the Beehive over the weekend.
      It comes down to, if people are still concerned, they will turn up not matter when.
    1. Furyos J's Avatar
      Furyos J -
      well i will be at the wellington protest, self employed, so it is my duty to make time to protest. Also as i am hit three times, my commuter bike, my work ute to take materials to site (i use the bike when not transporting materials etc), and my weekend street machine (altho that is over 40yrs old, so only $120 per year). Im pretty shure i cant use all three at the same time
    1. Luckylegs's Avatar
      Luckylegs -
      Ok so where do i find the details of the auckland ride ?
    1. StoneY's Avatar
      StoneY -
      Quote Originally Posted by Furyos J View Post
      well i will be at the wellington protest, self employed, so it is my duty to make time to protest. Also as i am hit three times, my commuter bike, my work ute to take materials to site (i use the bike when not transporting materials etc), and my weekend street machine (altho that is over 40yrs old, so only $120 per year). Im pretty shure i cant use all three at the same time
      My household has 4 bikes and one car, I agree cant use all at once but...if 9,500 attending Parliament couldnt get them to back off, what will?
    1. Fatt Max's Avatar
      Fatt Max -
      Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
      My household has 4 bikes and one car, I agree cant use all at once but...if 9,500 attending Parliament couldnt get them to back off, what will?
      I could play on the steps of the Beehive again....but nude this time...???
    1. Oblivion's Avatar
      Oblivion -
      Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
      My household has 4 bikes and one car, I agree cant use all at once but...if 9,500 attending Parliament couldnt get them to back off, what will?
      Our family pays for 4 cars, and my bike. I don't want to imagine what the cost would be if we payed it all at once.
    1. red mermaid's Avatar
      red mermaid -
      Google is your friend.

      This link gives tax rates on fuels in NZ, as at 1 Oct 2010.


      http://www.med.govt.nz/templates/Page____12961.aspx
    1. StoneY's Avatar
      StoneY -
      Quote Originally Posted by Fatt Max View Post
      I could play on the steps of the Beehive again....but nude this time...???
      now THAT would definitely get some attention...what about the nurses outfit mate?
    1. Oblivion's Avatar
      Oblivion -
      Quote Originally Posted by red mermaid View Post
      Google is your friend.

      This link gives tax rates on fuels in NZ, as at 1 Oct 2010.


      http://www.med.govt.nz/templates/Page____12961.aspx
      Good god

      60c a litre on tax
    1. Katman's Avatar
      Katman -
      Quote Originally Posted by Fatt Max View Post
      I could play on the steps of the Beehive again....but nude this time...???
      I'd rather see you do it on a real beehive........naked.
    1. Voltaire's Avatar
      Voltaire -
      I wonder if my insurance company might give me a better rate on two bikes and a car if I said I would only use one at a time....
    1. MAG-NZ Inc's Avatar
      MAG-NZ Inc -
      Meet @ 12:15 for a 12:30 departure 5th May Auckland Viaduct Carpark, (behind the big boat). Ride to ACC Office (Sale st) then to the local National Party electorate office (College Hill), they are close enough that this can be done in a longish lunchtime.

      Details for welli being finalised and should be up within a few days.
    1. StoneY's Avatar
      StoneY -
      Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
      I wonder if my insurance company might give me a better rate on two bikes and a car if I said I would only use one at a time....
      Mine does mate
      I have one single policy, covers all 3 of my bikes
      They wouldnt do one that covered the car and partners bike tho, all 3 vehicles needed be the same type, and same singular owner to pull it off
    1. oneofsix's Avatar
      oneofsix -
      Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
      I'd rather see you do it on a real beehive........naked.
      you want to see him naked and you are into watching others in pain.
      Ok I'm twisting your meaning but this is KB
    1. BoristheBiter's Avatar
      BoristheBiter -
      Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
      Mine does mate
      I have one single policy, covers all 3 of my bikes
      They wouldnt do one that covered the car and partners bike tho, all 3 vehicles needed be the same type, and same singular owner to pull it off
      We are with Star, both bikes are in different names but both are on the same policy. good for the track to.
    1. StoneY's Avatar
      StoneY -
      Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
      We are with Star, both bikes are in different names but both are on the same policy. good for the track to.
      Kiwibike for me underwritten by Star
      93.00 per month to cover the Ducati St4, KTM Super Duke, and GSXR1100 with roadside rescue and full gear replacement

      KTM middle of a claim now, has been very painless to deal with them at both Kiwibike and Star, new rim somewhere between Austria and NZ at this point
    1. BoristheBiter's Avatar
      BoristheBiter -
      Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
      Kiwibike for me underwritten by Star
      93.00 per month to cover the Ducati St4, KTM Super Duke, and GSXR1100 with roadside rescue and full gear replacement

      KTM middle of a claim now, has been very painless to deal with them at both Kiwibike and Star, new rim somewhere between Austria and NZ at this point
      About the same here, mine is a little higher due to a wee ticket. we changed after my last off, state was good with the bike but only second hand value for gear (fuckers).

      I would have thought if it is under written by star you would think that you could get them all on one policy like ours.
    1. StoneY's Avatar
      StoneY -
      Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
      I would have thought if it is under written by star you would think that you could get them all on one policy like ours.
      Nope they wont add the car and Kelly's 250 to my policy. But I am happy, 3 bikes on one policy is enough of a saving.........
      Was 84.00 pm for the cheapest policy I had with 3 seperate ones, so 93 for all 3 bikes is a huge boon
    1. Brian407's Avatar
      Brian407 -
      I agree in principle to the demerit points component to this but the rest of it is crap. If they are going to continue with the risk based model then it has to be a better on than they currently have. Below is an email which has been sent to all major news agencies in this country (not that I expect that any of them will run with it, they dont have the balls) which points toward some of the growing frustration I hear on a daily basis.

      I would be happy to organise a protest run in Invercargill, but my bike is on hold (and not being used) and i just got made redundant so not really of a mind to collect a fine right now. Still happy to organise it though, just not with my bike.

      "Dear Sir

      Perhaps you could consider a story on the ongoing and increasing rort of motor vehicle owners in this country. I draw the distinction between motorists and motor vehicle owners because there are many motorists who dont own a motor vehicle, and therefore dont pay Rego or ACC levies. Apparently non owners are not a risk and dont need to be levied. In my household there are three motorists, but only one motor vehicle owner. I have a car, a 4wd and two motorcycles (one being restored) and i pay registration and ACC on all three of them. I can only drive one at a time so why the hell am I penalised for having more than one. My wife and daughter both drive my vehicles yet dont pay any ACC levies for the risk they represent while driving. I ask, Is that fair??

      Should the ACC levy not be attached to the driver licence class. A class 1 licence should have the lowest fee due to the lowest risk, and, according to ACC's flawed logic, a class 6 licence should have the highest fee due to the higher risk. This would ensure that ALL motorists pay the approriate levy associated with their risk and the motor vehicle owner would be alleviated of the excessive and unfair burdon of double, tripple and sometimes mutiple dipping from ACC. This would likely increase ACC revenue as more people would be levied.

      This has to be sorted out once and for all with a fair and equitable system introduced before the New Zealand vehicle owning public start wide spread civil disobedience and tell NZTA and ACC to get stuffed.

      Regards
      Brian Walker"
    1. Street Hawk's Avatar
      Street Hawk -
      have we got a petition going, I haven't met a single person riders and drivers alike who agree with the hikes, recon we should be turning up with names of supporters aswell