WTF....why do they have to limit motoGP like this...?? http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/F...or+2012+MotoGP
I think to limit the entry cost for the premier class, but it never works. 81mm is going to be a pretty short stroke on a 4cyl, and too narrow for a triple at 1000cc. Dorna is concerned at audience numbers catching up over at WSB because of the big fields - which increased even against the recession pressure. Back to 500cc 2 smokes with no electronics whatsoever I recon. Those were the days, even Rossi admits it
i just don'y get putting limits on the top end of the spot...the faster the better....new technology etc etc
There has not been a death in Moto GP for a long time, and what ever they do to prevent another is a good thing. Check the stats- bikes go faster every year but deaths get statistically less every year and Dorna is becoming very proactive in working with riders and track owners to make that safer too, instead of chasing the sponsor money exclusivly. 1949 Ben Drinkwater (GBR) GP Isle of Man 1950 David Whitworth (GBR) GP Spa Francorchamps 1951 Dario Ambrosini (ITA) GP Albi 1951 Gianni Leoni (ITA) Ulster GP 1951 Sante Geminiani (ITA) Ulster GP 1952 Dave Bennett (GBR) GP Bern 1953 Leslie Graham (GBR) GP Isle of Man 1954 Rupert Hollaus (AUT) GP Monza Practice 1954 Dennis Lashmar (GBR) GP Solitude 1956 Derek Ennett (GBR) Ulster GP 1957 Charlie Salt (GBR) GP Isle of Man 1957 Roberto Colombo (ITA) GP Spa Francorchamps 1960 Bob Brown (AUS) GP Solitude 1960 Peter Febrache (GBR) GP Assen 1961 Ron Miles (AUS) GP Dundrod 1963 Marcellin Herranz (FRA) GP Charade 1964 Vernon Cottle (GBR) GP Imatra 1965 Ramón Torras (SPA) GP Barcelona 1969 Bill Ivy (GBR) GP Sachsenring[13] 1969 Robin Fitton (GBR) GP Nürburgring 1971 Christian Ravel (FRA) GP Spa Francorchamps 1971 Angelo Bergamonti (ITA) GP Riccione 1971 Günter Bartusch (GDR) GP Sachsenring 1973 Renzo Pasolini (ITA) GP Monza 1973 Jarno Saarinen (FIN) GP Monza 1974 Billie Nelson (GBR) GP Opatija 1975 Rolf Thiele (BRD) GP Assen 1976 Otello Buscherini (ITA) GP Mugello 1976 Paolo Tordi (ITA) GP Mugello 1977 Ulrich Graf (SUI) GP Opatija 1977 Giovanni Zigiotto (ITA) GP Opatija 1977 Hans Stadelmann (SUI) GP Salzburgring 1977 Piers Forester (GBR) Brands Hatch Powerbike International 1980 Patrick Pons (FRA) GP Silverstone 1981 Michel Rougerie (FRA) GP Yugoslavia 1981 Sauro Pazzaglia (ITA) GP Imola 1981 Alain Beraud (FRA) GP Brno 1983 Michel Frutschi (SUI) GP Le Mans 1983 Rolf Rüttimann (SUI) GP Rijeka 1983 Norman Brown (NIR) GP Silverstone 1983 Peter Huber (SUI) GP Silverstone 1984 Kevin Wrettom (ENG) GP Spa-Francorchamps 1989 Iván Palazzese (VEN) GP Hockenheim 1993 Noboyuki Wakai (JPN) GP Jeréz 2003 Daijiro Kato (JPN) GP Suzuka
geezzzz wayne....that was a bit of a downer....anytime you ride you take a risk...the current motogp bikes can do 345kmh.....how fast do you have to go to die?/ be safe........personally i think the riders are better and the safety gear is better...thats why fewer riders die...
More bike crash friendly tracks with greater use of soft barriers, less hard barriers and setting them at oblique angles to the direction of the bikes and much bigger run off areas at corners is what is keeping the deaths and serious injuries down
thats true croc, the track design is much better these days.....
Oh yeah! and stopping the race so that crashed riders can be medivaced straight away Unlike when Newcombe's recovery was delayed until the race finished. Apparently he died as a result of the delay
It's a positive list, decline in numbers from mid 80's to now and the last two were a bit freakish to be honest. 3 since 1984 season, all fields 125/250/GP is very good. Track design is probably 70% responsible, no safety gear is going to save you from a concrete barrier at racing speeds. But all the controlers on the bikes make them safer, and easier to control. Notice how quickly a rider can advance from 250 to being competitive in MotoGP in the last 3-4 years? It used to (excluding Rossi) take an apprenticeship to get good in the senior class, now Stoner, Pedrosa, Lorenzo and next year I predict ben & Marco all came through and got podiums or wins in their rookie year. I can't wait to see Ben Spies and Marco Simonchelli get in the mix next year It will be the most exciting year in ages, the bikes are sorted, last year there were at least 3 other riders at Rossi's level (when they were onto it) and next year there should be 5 guys all mixing it up at the front, maybe 6 Only 3 1/2 months to go
so which is better MotoGP or WSB??
Super Sport because the bikes are closer in power, big fields, crazy young guns and most of them trying to advance to Superbikes at any cost makes it very exciting, plus Eugene Laverty The only Irish racer in the front of the pack in any of the classess. If the racing is close then I don't care what class it is, some of the best international races I have ever seen have been in the 125cc class, 15 and 16 year olds just crazy stuff
the funniest race i saw at the motogp was the 250?? race in the season just gone where the front runner thought he had won and slowed up...only to see the rest of the field go past him!!....and i don't think it was the Irish man!!.......
yeah so sad...
almost as funny as the guy whop did a wheelie as he neared the finish line and got beaten by the guy behind him!!...now that was a classic....
not to get anal or anything....but coming back to my original question....if we agree other factors have made for safer racing...why limit the capacity, stroke of the motors?...at the top end i mean...i understand the Aprilia motor deal etc. and that is good for racing too...just...shouldn't the top end be allowed to max out the motors...
