bloody hell......went for warrant yesterday avo......checked everything before going..no worries....they check the bike over.....all good....then...where is the vin....I show them the painted over vin tag....they say thats no good...can't read it....I say..the last guy just looked it up...they say...the rules changed on !st April.....must be visable and readable.......so I failed the warrant.....and have to wait for Mt Wellington to open so i can get a new one fitted....arrgghh.....to be honest i never understand people who paint bike frames and paint over the chassis numbers/VIN tags etc......
When i went to get my Duke new plates a few years ago, I had all the documents and pink slip stuff from the states and i took it to VTNZ in Hastings, They said it could only be useed as parts ans were asking what sort of car a Ducati was, WTF #1 ! Total fuckwits, When the twat figured out it was a bike he had books and forms out and made such a difficult episode out of it. He then said it MAY be possible to register it but would cost more because it a Bike, WTF #2, My duke had a 17 Vin # which is all they need for a frame # and this dick said he had to fit a new Vin # to the frame, I seriuosly lost intrist with this fuckwit saying he was going to drill into the steering head or frame rail to fit a new 17 digit vin plate it didnt need. they fail cars for WOFs with dent in the sills as "structural damage" but hav no problem drilling into bike frame WTF#3 i took it to the AA in Napier, the guy gave me the Brake cert forms, I took the pads out , measured them and the rotors, filled in the sizes . make etc, (even used his own verniers ansd micrometer) He said it would be ready the next day and would cost $300ish with new wof, plate, and 6mths rego. Sweet ;-) I asked how busy he was that arvo and he said he didnt have much on, I would have had to get a ride home and get back before they closed on the next day(friday) and if he could get it done that day. he said OK and it will be ready 3PM. Top service from AA Napier
What if you don't have a VIN number? Not all bikes do. Scrap Metal doesn't
What if you don't have a VIN number? Not all bikes do. Scrap Metal doesn't What bikes dont? old british stuff? My LC has a stamped number and a tag( with aussie complience numbers on it) . My mates UK model just has the stamp , no tag at all
All very well for you chaps with late model bikes. When Scrap Metal went on the road VINs hadn't been invented
If first registered in NZ after '94 (I think) it needs a 17 digit VIN,before that a 6 digit chassis number is all that is needed.For a WoF all that is entered is the last 6 digits,being the chassis number,but all numbers have to be taken down on the form.And they have to be taken from the vehicle,rear windows are out too.When this first came in they were fitted with a NZ VIN plate even if they had a 17 digit VIN originally,but then if it had a factory VIN ,then that was used.Although some NZ new Mitsubishi's with a factory VIN seem to have a NZ VIN plate too,dunno why.
According to the infallible innertubes VINs were introduced (anywhere) in 1983. So a bike made before then won't have a manufacturers VIN plate . And if it hadn't been retrgistered in NZ after 1994 it won't have had a NZ vin plate fitted. AFAIK they are only fitted when the vehicle is complianced for registration ( registration not meaning licensing)
Yes,the whole world started using 17 digit VINs....except Japanese domestic market.That's why Jap Imports have the NZ VIN plate....an identical vehicle destined for another market will have a full factory VIN.A vehicle reregistered after 1994 will need a VIN if it didn't have one before.
In theory if you know the frame/chassis number you can construct the VIN, cos the other numbers are determined (maker code, colour etc). So it seems a bit precious getting uppity about a VIN if there's a frame number. Scrap Metal they just write down the frame number .First WoF I got for it we couldn't find the frame number ( it's not on the head stock where they used to be) so he used the engine number .
their argument seemed to be that it could have been stolen......otherwise why paint over it or make it un-readable....
It's always had to be readable,and for WoF purposes ever since chassis numbers were recorded,which was mid '90's.
So the correct answer is buy pre '83 bikes and a stamp set to 'adjust' engine and frame numbers to your relevant and current plate and give the bludgers no more money for jam
Back when the chassis number had to be recorded I told a friend he couldn't have a WoF because his Escort had no chassis number....so he stamped it 666.But when we went to computer it needed 6 digits....the Escort would be off the road by then.Back in the '70's there was a Commando stamped with Triumph engine numbers,bit of a FYYFF.I wonder if anyone is having trouble with those cases today?
