It seems that regardless of vehicle type, brand, country of origin or price range, the challenges of purchasing, owning and maintaining a modern classic are pretty much universal . . . . I saw a link to this Ferrari forum a few days ago, and had a look. I had to sign up to see the photos, but that wasn't too painful, and it was definitely worth it IMHO. A brief synopsis is that in 2009 a guy in the UK fulfilled a lifelong dream and bought a '65 Ferrari 275GTB with a verified history right back to its first owner collecting it from the factory, along with a thick file of receipts and an independent Ferrari authority having checked the car over. In one advert for the car, it was described as "never been crashed, never been driven in rain or snow". He paid US$605K for the car, and it looked mint in the photos. Since then he has had the car completely stripped and is getting it fully restored. The story of what they have discovered and how they are repairing it is quite impressive, and the owner's sense of humour throughout is quite refreshing. Here's the link: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=280041
Here's the link: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=280041 .....that works when your a member..... ....anyway the 1969 VW I bought for way less than 600K is coming along.... motor rebuilt and the crash damage almost completely done thanks to dollying and hammering...and bogging...... Hopefully soon start to squirt some primer on...... opps hijacked Fritz's Italian car story with a German one..... traurig, Ihren Gewindesir zu überfallen .....
OK, I fixed the link. Let's try that again!
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I had the waterblaster out today,spouting and paths and such...and ran it over the NX Coupe.Oh,bugger....that's a big hole.....
Originally Posted by Voltaire es funktioniert nicht ....... . . . . and maybe your computer knows that you really don't need the grief of dealing with an interweb Ferrari restoration gone wrong . . . .
can't open pictures..........
I don't know if I wanna see Ferrari rust and bog......its probably like Kauri borer.....
As I said in my initial post cmoore, you'll need to sign up to see the photos, but it's not complicated to do so, and worth it IMHO. And no Voltaire, Ferrari bog is a bit like the Sistine Chapel, where you take a fairly ordinary-looking shed, overdue for a make-over and dress it up a little, with similarly epic results . . . . the restorers estimated that the car was carrying 30kg of this special Ferrari bog, and it had obviously been applied by an artiste.
30KG's of Bog I suppose it could be called 'traditional' as the Romans were ealy users of 'plastic" ...yes concrete falls under this. So really Ferrarri are just carrying on a tradition. I'm a long time VW owner and I know all about the rust in them and where it hides... I suspect that most old cars have more bog in them the the owners/seller realise. Kombi van asking prices are high.... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-369428965.htm for the pre 67 models and are on the rise for the later ones.... Here's a Brazilian one that back in the 80's I would not even bother going to see as they were rust on wheels.... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-370858155.htm for that asking price I'd rather have the German one... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-369484679.htm You really do need to know what you are looking at and Google is not your friend in this case.Saying that, bog applied over good steel will last a very long time, probably longer than the so called propper lead job as that introduces flux witch encourages rust and adds weight. I'm happy these days if I can get away with a 1 ot 2 mm bog skim over a hammered or patched panel. Sadly the cost of restoring a vehicle to a really high standard is probably why you see them for sale... the $1000 Kombi that needs " attention" ends up costing lots and you can't really stop 1/2 way or you lose. My mate spent 10K on a running woffed 1966 a few years back....spent another 10 k on it...( at least) with no motor work...... bikes are so much easier than cars... ( dull rainly day dribble finished)
I read the Ferarri tread but didn't see the pics. probably just as well really... The current owner must be a very patient and level-headed type to not go spare, tart it up and flick it on.
So, for those who have an understandable aversion to signing up in order to see the photos, here's a few teasers: "BEFORE". The shell, stripped of running gear, brakes & suspension: Now, a few of the initial horrors: And now, some of the remaining horrors: Of course, the rest of the shell is "a bit frilly", with rust holes everywhere in the floor and inner guards. All this from a car advertised as "never been crashed, never driven in rain or snow" . . . .
All this from a car advertised as "never been crashed, never driven in rain or snow" . . . . Reminds me of some of the bikes I have sold...
They can't of looked too hard - a few taps with a knuckle or running over with a magnet would pick up something wrong.Spending that much money you wouldn't just walk around it and then hand over the money...or is stupid still relative regardless of how much money you have? Not that I have the right to comment...I've done nearly as bad,and bought some patched up shitters.I one cleaned up a 180B that was in a frontal,I smacked out the bonnet as best I could,but I couldn't get to the skin because of the bracing...I had on old tin of bog that needed using up,so just filled the big dent.Worst I've seen is an AP5 Valiant with loaves of bread in the rear panel under the bumper,then smoothed over with bog.
I was looking a a VW beetle in a car yard once and we noticed that under neath was a different colour at the front than the back....it had been 'cut and shut' to use the 80's expression of the time. We pointed it out to the Sales Bloke but he shooed us away..... pesky teenagers... Even I can do better panel work than that.....makes you wonder if it was done while Dad was overseas and he never knew......
