The first motorcycle...

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  1. Voltaire
    Voltaire
    The first Motorcycle....
    One has two wheels and an external combustion engine
    The other had two wheels [SIZE=1]and some smaller assistance ones and an internal combustion engine.

    In the Cmoore Corner we have:

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...6&d=1327363059

    and in the Headroom Corner we have:

  2. Diggers
    Diggers
    Max's bike has a small barn where the seat should be.
  3. cmoore
    cmoore
    LOL!!.....Im still with the Yank.....if it looks like a motorbike and rides like a motorbike then it must be a motorbike.......not a shopping trolley
  4. psyguy
    psyguy
    what's the bucket under the first one? did it leak steam?
  5. Max Headroom
    Max Headroom
    Quote Originally Posted by cmoore
    LOL!!.....Im still with the Yank.....if it looks like a motorbike and rides like a motorbike then it must be a motorbike.......not a shopping trolley
    And there's the nub. It doesn't look like a motorbike, it certainly wouldn't sound like a motorbike, and most importantly, it doesn't have a motor. It could at best be described as a powered bicycle.

    Daimler's effort has a 4-stroke, petrol powered internal combustion engine contained in a frame suspended on two wheels which are mounted in line. Gentlemen, I present to you the world's first true motorcycle.
  6. Voltaire
    Voltaire
    Using Cmoores logic the car was therefore invented in England in the 1820's...4 wheels and self propelled....plus they also invented the towbar and trailer....


    novelties aside the first production motorcycle as in someone would actually pay for it was in 1894....the Hildebrand and Wolfmulller. The unrestored one shown sold for 86 000 quid....probably not on TM.
    I suppose Yamaha were too busy copying....er developing pianos to copy these...
  7. cmoore
    cmoore
    A motorcycle engine is an engine that powers a motorcycle (Wikipedia)....no mention of must be 4 stroke petrol....

    The first motorcycles were powered by steam engines. The earliest example is the French Michaux-Perreaux steam velocipede of 1868. This was followed by the American Roper steam velocipede of 1869, and a number of other steam powered two and three wheelers, manufactured and sold to the public on through the early 20th century
  8. cmoore
    cmoore
    Yamaha??...probably as busy as the dysfunctional Triumph.....whichever one that is

    Triumph Motorcycles may refer to:

    Triumph Engineering Co Ltd, a defunct British motorcycle manufacturer
    Norton Villiers Triumph, a defunct British motorcycle manufacturer
    Triumph Motorcycles Ltd, a current British motorcycle manufacturer
    Triumph (TWN), a defunct German motorcycle manufacturer
  9. cmoore
    cmoore
    speaking of steam............went for xmas dinner on the vintage steam tug William C Daldy......you old engineering types would manage a woody looking at all the knobs n copper...everything on it in working order and you can wander around the engine and coal boiler things......it is called a steam engine isn't it?....and do you call it a boat/tug/ship or is it not because it is powered by a steam engine......actually what about trains....what were those damn things before the deisel train was built??....steam train?...nah...can't be...
  10. Voltaire
    Voltaire
    Steam...this is motorcycle forum...steam is not a feature of motorcycles...

    As for Wikipedia:
    Yamaha
    first year of production (1958), was named in honor of the founder. It was a 125cc, single cylinder, two-stroke, street bike patterned after the German DKW RT125


    Patterned.....I like it.

    " but Miss I only patterned his homework"...
  11. cmoore
    cmoore
    LOL!!.....Yamaha made Pianos, they make Jet Skis, they have also made some of the best racing motorbikes for the last 50 years...
  12. cmoore
    cmoore
    Yamaha (and all other Japanese makers) copied Eurpopean motorcycles....which obviously was much worse then BMW motorcycles which were used by all components of the Nazi's BMW, like all major German industrial concerns, was implicated in the use of slave labour.
  13. Voltaire
    Voltaire
    Lets not go down that road as the Japanese are as guilty as the Germans for war crimes. Don't make me Wiki it.......
    The Japan has a declining population....do they have immigration.....don't think so....not good enough for them....they have a dodgy 'guest worker' system....
    I went out for teppanyaki last night...nice cooking show...but $160 for 3......fish and chips next time...
  14. cmoore
    cmoore
    the road has been down...nothing can change it.....

    so the Japan are bad people because they do what we should?.....

    try whale next time...much nicer but costs a bit more.....we went for lunch at the waterfront hilton...$230 for the two of us.....bloody Kiwis.....
  15. Motu
    Motu
    I made a sandwich tonight with my own beetroot, tomatoes and cucumber....but didn't make the bread. My bread maker has gone to Auckland for a week. You are not a motorcycle manufacturer until you can sell a bike, and use the proceeds to build the next one....so I'm with the other Germans.
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