Good cop #2

[Lou Girardin]

My brother got zapped at 119 km/h by instant-on Stalker on the straight just north of the Brynderwyns. Cop asked for his licence etc. Then said, I guess you were just passing that truck. Paul couldn't remember a truck, but then saw one turn off to Waipu. So he clicked that the cop was giving him an excuse, and said yeah I that's right. The cop said, "as you do, it's a pain in the arse being stuck behind one, isn't it". Then Mr Plod saw the Valentine and asked what it was!. Paul told him it was a detector, the cop just said, "I didn't think they worked on bikes", and let him off.
It'd be good to know if it's the same guy that let me off there too.
I guess they haven't all been brainwashed by bullshit castle in Wellington.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

My brother got zapped at 119 km/h by instant-on Stalker on the straight just north of the Brynderwyns. Cop asked for his licence etc. Then said, I guess you were just passing that truck. Paul couldn't remember a truck, but then saw one turn off to Waipu. So he clicked that the cop was giving him an excuse, and said yeah I that's right. The cop said, "as you do, it's a pain in the arse being stuck behind one, isn't it". Then Mr Plod saw the Valentine and asked what it was!. Paul told him it was a detector, the cop just said, "I didn't think they worked on bikes", and let him off.
It'd be good to know if it's the same guy that let me off there too.
I guess they haven't all been brainwashed by bullshit castle in Wellington.

I wish. Should send some good ones up here to replace the wankers we have. Most of them are bloody pommy import wankers that think they are a branch of the God squad. OOOOps was I angry?

[maybe]

If we speed we know the consequences but it is good to get away with it once in a while

[750Y]

...Then Mr Plod saw the Valentine and ...said, "I didn't think they worked on bikes"...

from that do i take it that they don't.
I thought the valentine would at least have picked up mr plod blasting other vehicles up ahead?

[toads]

Yeah well it's good to hear that there are some resonable human beings out there, to be honest I think most of them are doing a good job, but did anyone see holmes last night? he named a cop that stung an old couple on their way home from hospital with a $150 fine for going too slow, even after the old fulla explained that he was doing it because his wife was in extreme pain, and he was driving her because he couldn't afford to pay for an ambulance, holmes named the cop concerned and said he was making a complaint to his superior, good to hear someone going public with this sort of thing.

[Hitcher]

They're just doing their jobs. If you're unhappy with the law, take your fight to the source and lobby Parliament. We live in a democracy after all.

[spudchucka]

from that do i take it that they don't.
I thought the valentine would at least have picked up mr plod blasting other vehicles up ahead?

If he was a wise cop, which he sounds as if he was, then he wouldn't be "blasting" every vehicle on the road. Watching the approaching traffic and only "blasting" the vehicles that you can visibly see travelling at speed is the sensible approach. Why zap someone that is clearly travelling at or close to the speed limit and in doing so warn off the next guy who might be low flying, happy in the security that his expensive little radar buster provides him.

[750Y]

If he was a wise cop, which he sounds as if he was, then he wouldn't be "blasting" every vehicle on the road. Watching the approaching traffic and only "blasting" the vehicles that you can visibly see travelling at speed is the sensible approach. Why zap someone that is clearly travelling at or close to the speed limit and in doing so warn off the next guy who might be low flying, happy in the security that his expensive little radar buster provides him.

and so a good radar is not always effective. a jammer therefore must surely be the most effective device. If used in conjunction with a top detector I'm sure that the expense would more than pay for itself through ticket evasion.

[k14]

The jammers are only for the laser gun thingys. You can't get a jammer for normal radar.

But in my few thousand kms with my radar, probably around 2500kms, I have never come across a cop that uses the instant on option for the radar. If they did use them they probably would be a bit more effective, but unless the cop has a specific agenda to zap people with radars, then it probably isn't worth using instant on, just leave it on continuously.

[gav]

Think I'll just tell the next cop who stops me, Im on my way to watch the All Blacks, that should work!

[Mongoose]

Here is something I have notced on these threads to do with speed. If the cop does as he is instructed and tickets people for speed, he is an arsehole. If he does not do what he has been instructed to do, jolly fine chap that cop.
All this after the long thread about personal responsibility re accidents, surely this applies to speeding too?

[spudchucka]

Here is something I have notced on these threads to do with speed. If the cop does as he is instructed and tickets people for speed, he is an arsehole. If he does not do what he has been instructed to do, jolly fine chap that cop.
All this after the long thread about personal responsibility re accidents, surely this applies to speeding too?

The problem is that people want law enforcement on "Their" own terms and don't want to except that anything outside their personal perspective of where the law sits should be acted upon.

Burglars for instance don't think that there is anything wrong with breaking into someones home and flogging the brand new DVD or Playstation. Its their way of life and they think they should be able to help themselves without the law intervening. Paedophiles think it is quite ok to have it off with babies or small children, their perspective of what is lawful is quite different to any other normal person.

The common thread is that they all have their own perception of lawfulness. Its the same with traffic / speed enforcement, some people perceive 120, 150, 180 to be quite safe speeds to travel at and don't believe they should be punished for that behaviour. Yet of course they want the burglars and paedophiles locked up for good, (and rightly so). The point is that they want the law enforced on their terms.

It doesn't and cannot work like that. The law is the law and should be enforced impartially and without fear or favour. The reality is slightly different however and practicality dictates that police should use discrection for minor offences. Is speeding a minor offence, in some cases yes, in many case no.

So it comes down to police discretion and its use should be encouraged in my opinion. However it is not for every person caught speeding to be the sole judge of whether discretion is appropriate in their case, naturally they will have a bias towards discretion being used.

[750Y]

can't please all the people all the time that's for sure. people always want things their own way. I hardly never speed, but when i do I am on the lookout for cops as just one more hazard among the million other things. the cops are probably on the lookout for one more hazard also. only the perspectives differ.
people break the law, the police enforce the law and round it goes forever....
I for one am happy with how things are...
that 'good cop #2' sounds like a fairly generous guy' congrats to your brother Lou.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

The problem is that people want law enforcement on "Their" own terms and don't want to except that anything outside their personal perspective of where the law sits should be acted upon.

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Yep...Human nature really

[Two Smoker]

Here is something I have notced on these threads to do with speed. If the cop does as he is instructed and tickets people for speed, he is an arsehole. If he does not do what he has been instructed to do, jolly fine chap that cop.
All this after the long thread about personal responsibility re accidents, surely this applies to speeding too?

I dont completely agree with this.... if i get a ticket for doing 111kmh or 112kmh, he is an arsehole, if i got done for 115+kmh then fair enough i was speeding and deserve it........ Thats why i and MR hardly ever speed on main highways, we just do stupid (but not dangerous) stuff instead hehehe.....