who da man! or Maness

**madboy** · 21st March 2005, 23:44

removing the element of illegality takes half the fun out of trying to break the sound barrier... next thing I'll have to start doing all the track days... then I'll be saving my speed for the track... then I'll have to start racing cos the tracks days won't be enough... and then I'll be old and mature... oh my god - they're never going to take me alive!!!!!!!!!

**Coldkiwi** · 22nd March 2005, 19:15

Originally Posted by bugjuice

As for Puke, I'm hoping next weekend to beat my personal best top speed.. I'd really like to push at least 270 if not more, just depends on how much more the bike and I can push before that nasty hairpin

tell ya what, if you want to sort your back straight speed out, forget about the hairpin and start sorting yourself out everytime you tip into jennian. you'll never get decent back straight speed if you don't have a good entry onto it. my experience has been that I can easily loose 10-20kmhr there with bad gear changes and shoddy lines. By the time the bike gets near the braking zone, you'll end up accelerating so slowly that an extra 10 or 20m before you haul on the chicken lever (at least thats what it felt like to me!, most people refer to it as the brakes) won't make much difference to your top speed.

**WINJA** · 22nd March 2005, 22:08

Originally Posted by Coldkiwi

nyyyyyers, I'll bet it does! My GSXR 600 (exactly the same as yours I believe?) speedo kinda slowed down at 257 at puke and it didn't have much left to give before I hit the brakes (disallowing track speeds is no fun Bugjuice- it takes away that little bit of a disclaimer should someone come looking to make trouble!)

ME HAVE THOUSAND , ME LIKE BIKE FAST GO, 600 SLOW

**bugjuice** · 22nd March 2005, 22:16

Originally Posted by Coldkiwi

tell ya what, if you want to sort your back straight speed out, forget about the hairpin and start sorting yourself out everytime you tip into jennian. you'll never get decent back straight speed if you don't have a good entry onto it. my experience has been that I can easily loose 10-20kmhr there with bad gear changes and shoddy lines. By the time the bike gets near the braking zone, you'll end up accelerating so slowly that an extra 10 or 20m before you haul on the chicken lever (at least thats what it felt like to me!, most people refer to it as the brakes) won't make much difference to your top speed.

yeah, thanks for that.. I've done the track a dozen times on the CBR250 and remember about getting the back straight sorted from the S's and Castrol. Getting that spot on was tricky for a while, but I got that sorted, then I worked on setting up for the S'd from Jen. I've basically reset cos I haven't been on the track for a few months, and not at all with this bike, so real slow for a while, while I find my feet again. I'll be happy to get the S's and Castrol right by the end of my day, so to get to work on the exit of Jen would be really good.. I'm just gonna mainly concentrate on seeing that start/finish every lap!
You going to be there?

**Coldkiwi** · 23rd March 2005, 17:53

Originally Posted by bugjuice

.. I'm just gonna mainly concentrate on seeing that start/finish every lap!
You going to be there?

not a bad plan!! I got some good advice from the track instructors at my first track time event who told me ' don't try and get every part of the track right at once. Focus on a section and improve that before going harder on the next part'. Its not a bad way to go otherwise you run the risk of a small mistake in one area causing REAL problems later down the line (the opposite of this approach caused me to nearly mind meld with the concrete barrier on the hill so I listened!)
no, I won't be taking the gixxer back out there. No more road bikes on track for me - too expensive and annoying if binned (3 and 1/2 months sponging rides and taking the bus? no thanks!)

**bugjuice** · 23rd March 2005, 21:56

yeah, fair call.. I'm not going 100%.. I want to see what I can comfortabley get on the back, and cruise the corners, seeing what I can pick up on the way.. the weather is looking to be a bit crap at the moment, so not totally sure if I'm going..

**wkid_one** · 23rd March 2005, 22:32

Originally Posted by Coldkiwi

not a bad plan!! I got some good advice from the track instructors at my first track time event who told me ' don't try and get every part of the track right at once. Focus on a section and improve that before going harder on the next part'. Its not a bad way to go otherwise you run the risk of a small mistake in one area causing REAL problems later down the line (the opposite of this approach caused me to nearly mind meld with the concrete barrier on the hill so I listened!)
no, I won't be taking the gixxer back out there. No more road bikes on track for me - too expensive and annoying if binned (3 and 1/2 months sponging rides and taking the bus? no thanks!)

Thats really good advice - same applies to the road.

If you try and think - roll off point, brake point, turn point, apex point, roll on point, weight shift etc etc - you will do your head it - focus on getting one thing right until its habitual, then move on.

Just remember - your 'going hard' level - may also be considerably higher/lower than the next persons'

**bugjuice** · 23rd March 2005, 22:35

Originally Posted by wkid_one

Thats really good advice - same applies to the road.

If you try and think - roll off point, brake point, turn point, apex point, roll on point, weight shift etc etc - you will do your head it - focus on getting one thing right until its habitual, then move on.

Just remember - your 'going hard' level - may also be considerably higher/lower than the next persons'

personally, I've done the track heaps of times, so now it's just getting back into it after a few months off, and learning a new bike on there. Whole-hearterly agree tho. I am getting into that head space, but won't know for sure until the day..

good advice for anyone else who's in my position or not been on the track at all..

**wkid_one** · 23rd March 2005, 22:42

Bikes are fucked in their aerodymanics are rivalled only by commercial vehicles...meaning they need wicked power to hit speed

**twinkle** · 5th November 2005, 21:27

Originally Posted by Biff

Being as this is a public survey, one where everyone can see you admit to committing a criminal act - 350KPH on a stolen Nitro'd BlackBird carrying 2 Kilos of cocaine and enough stolen enriched uranium to build 15 x 300 Megaton bombs.

Thats about 500kg of uranium, plus another 1000kg for the lead case it would have been in

must've been some ride