Woodhill Two-Man Series

**chop** · 27th July 2009, 14:00

Originally Posted by camchain

I always find it tricky to work out best approach when letting faster riders through.

It's bloody difficult to concentrate on what you're doing and also monitor how close a following rider is getting. I usually move over & tip my head or flick a hand out to indicate side I'm suggesting they pass on so they can be sure I'm not going to veer onto that line. Seems to go down well, 9/10 times you'll get a 'thanks mate.'

Often I'd deliberately take a crappy line to let someone through. Other times I either slowed right down at passing moment or even pulled over & stopped. But if you loose 5 seconds 12 times, that's a big fat minute off your own lap time. Us average guys are racing & testing ourselves as well & wanting a decent result for our ability level. (keen to see those results, stop teasing KTMboy! lol)

Seems the rev engine trick can easily piss people off if you do it straight away, especially in a spot that doesn't offer a pass opportunity. I hardly ever do it but then some dudes seem to make no effort to let you through. The ones who are just a bit slower are by far the hardest to pass. In frustration I sometimes took some pretty dodgy lines to get by.

Was very aware that doing solo, i had to save energy so couldn't go too ballistic anywhere, so i put extra effort into not to slowing anyone up because it really was a two-man event after all. Oddly, sometimes I'd let a rider pass & they would then slow down & I'd end up having to pass them back again (tortise & hare factor, lol). Passed a few on that marble surface uphill (before the deep sand climb). Gave myself one wee fright on that, but found you could you fly up if easy on the throttle.

Buffstar, so that was you cheering us on at end of start straight? I really appreciated that big time! Got a huge boost from it & was able to dig a bit deeper. Cheers.

The hard left on that rock hill had a good clean line and way more traction. Saw a few bikes get scarly loose up there

**tommorth** · 27th July 2009, 14:13

had to have a recovery day off work today I'm sore all over wish Id done some training before hand. rekon that puddle was the best bit of the track everyone stuffing around trying to dodge it made the bogs on the sides deeper than the puddle. have know Idea where that rut was jt but there were lots of detours was a massive section cut out of the track near the start think it was marked with orange arrows went straight ahead instead of down towards the road i went down towards the road each time but was never sure if I was going the right way. that soft sandy hill with the woops was a killer everytime I went up that slppery rocky hill I got some energy back only to loose it all in those woops .

Had a plenty of people pass me but I also passed a few of them back to I just figure it a race I'm not stoping if theres a straight wideish bit I'll hug one side and if they want to it they can pass me if not ...

big thanks to tony and the crew was an awsome event probably won't be here for the next one but lookn forward to the last one

**camchain** · 27th July 2009, 15:06

Originally Posted by chop

The hard left on that rock hill had a good clean line and way more traction. Saw a few bikes get scarly loose up there

Yeah, most of centre was just way too skatey, I tried the other side but tucking into hard left worked the best for me. Feel slightly good that I at least found one good line chop! With so many variations through trees was hard to remember all the best ones. Found a perfect one only a foot off one particular beefy whoop section through toi-toi. Smooth sailing all the way up. Weird as almost no-one was using it.

**flyingcr250** · 27th July 2009, 15:14

Originally Posted by cheese

Yeah I wish some others would have moved for me when I came up behind them. I ended up taking a couple of dodgy overtaking lines and it paid off luckily.

yea it was a bit frustrating being stuck behind some slower riders

**buffstar** · 27th July 2009, 15:47

Originally Posted by chop

Chi chi's Mrs?? thought it was you.. had a flat front tyre that lap and was trying to keep front light haha

Yeah bro - thats my bear

**buffstar** · 27th July 2009, 15:54

Buffstar, so that was you cheering us on at end of start straight? I really appreciated that big time! Got a huge boost from it & was able to dig a bit deeper. Cheers.[/QUOTE]

Yay!!!! am glad that it gave someone warm fuzzles

was funny, afew ppl looked at me like "WTF?!!" but I found it really exciting watching and dodging the fast bastards!!! lol

Will definately be in it myself next round, am trying to talk my partner into racing it with me......... if not I might have to manup and do the IRONPERSON with my mate Tracy

KTMboy and co plz let me add my appreciation of an awsome event!!!!! You guys did yourselves proud

**chop** · 27th July 2009, 16:04

Originally Posted by buffstar

Yeah bro - thats my bear

haha nice... you wont get him racing will ya?? Bout time he did!

**buffstar** · 27th July 2009, 16:41

Originally Posted by chop

haha nice... you wont get him racing will ya?? Bout time he did!

am working on him now......he did the 2man last year with Darren and I went in the ladies with Tracy....... the boys didnt really like the tight stuff that time around, but I think the general concensus is that the new organizers are putting on a better quality ride - not wanting to offend anyone with that comment - tis just the word on the street

me and him also did fells farm afew months ago - that was pretty cool (even if i sucked a little bit

) even managed to get me a little bit of air WHOO HOO MEEEEEEEE
Personally I used to really enjoy the tight rooty stuff (that could sound quite rude couldnt it?) but i had a big off in Nov last year involving a tree, cracked pelvis and broken wrist - am finding it really hard to get my confidance up again need to HTFU I think!!

**Midget200** · 27th July 2009, 18:22

Originally Posted by camchain

I always find it tricky to work out best approach when letting faster riders through.

It's bloody difficult to concentrate on what you're doing and also monitor how close a following rider is getting. I usually move over & tip my head or flick a hand out to indicate side I'm suggesting they pass on so they can be sure I'm not going to veer onto that line. Seems to go down well, 9/10 times you'll get a 'thanks mate.'

Often I'd deliberately take a crappy line to let someone through. Other times I either slowed right down at passing moment or even pulled over & stopped. But if you loose 5 seconds 12 times, that's a big fat minute off your own lap time. Us average guys are racing & testing ourselves as well & wanting a decent result for our ability level. (keen to see those results, stop teasing KTMboy! lol)

Seems the rev engine trick can easily piss people off if you do it straight away, especially in a spot that doesn't offer a pass opportunity. I hardly ever do it but then some dudes seem to make no effort to let you through. The ones who are just a bit slower are by far the hardest to pass. In frustration I sometimes took some pretty dodgy lines to get by.

Was very aware that doing solo, i had to save energy so couldn't go too ballistic anywhere, so i put extra effort into not to slowing anyone up because it really was a two-man event after all. Oddly, sometimes I'd let a rider pass & they would then slow down & I'd end up having to pass them back again (tortise & hare factor, lol). Passed a few on that marble surface uphill (before the deep sand climb). Gave myself one wee fright on that, but found you could you fly up if easy on the throttle.

Buffstar, so that was you cheering us on at end of start straight? I really appreciated that big time! Got a huge boost from it & was able to dig a bit deeper. Cheers.

You rock Camchain! Me and Racy Tracy have taken your words of wisdom on board and I've printed them off! Might be more inclined to do the next race and will take your advice! Thanks for that.

**flyingcr250** · 27th July 2009, 19:01

man i think ive been bitten by the racing bug, after the T100 and the 2man, im looking forward to the other 2 rounds and the dead toad, also cant forget the 4 hour in taupo

**camchain** · 27th July 2009, 19:49

Originally Posted by Midget85

You rock Camchain! Me and Racy Tracy have taken your words of wisdom on board and I've printed them off! Might be more inclined to do the next race and will take your advice! Thanks for that.

Oh hell, you're far too kind midge but thanks though. Not trying to dispense any wisdom (if I ever successfully do that, it'll likely be an accident), just interesting in chucking ideas around & in what others do.

**SpikedPunch** · 29th July 2009, 11:30

Originally Posted by clmintie

Whip the mag cover off (left side, plastic). Can you see any oil? And, please to check the kill switch wire wasn't crushed when you fitted the new tank.....

Gave this a go, no oil, no crushed wires either. It is a mystery!