Some info for a newbie please? GSXR 600

**wbks** · 5th June 2009, 21:18

Well I got the bike for $500 less than wanted at an already low price, which was the offer WITHOUT the powercomander offered at $300 and another thing I can't remember at the moment. Not that I would keep it anyway, sense of honestly and all, but he knew as soon as I mentioned the error to him asking why that he had left it in the bike, and would have seen this thread and realized eventually anyway, and he wants it back

**98tls** · 5th June 2009, 21:20

Originally Posted by wbks

Offcourse I would like to keep it, but he had sold the bike to me without the PC rather than extra $$$, so it's rightfully his.
@98tls - No idea

May well pay to find out mate...but dont lose any sleep over it.

Easy way to find out is to unplug it and start the thing up.To be honest ive no idea but i do know the power commander was a step up from the yosh box i play round with in my garage,whether it can/needs to reset the ecu ive no idea.

**wbks** · 5th June 2009, 21:23

Originally Posted by 98tls

May well pay to find out mate...but dont lose any sleep over it.

Easy way to find out is to unplug it and start the thing up.To be honest ive no idea but i do know the power commander was a step up from the yosh box i play round with in my garage,whether it can/needs to reset the ecu ive no idea.

Reading a few things it says that because it doesn't permanantly change the stock ECU it only needs to be unplugged. But whether that's completely right or not, I don't know

**98tls** · 5th June 2009, 21:25

Originally Posted by wbks

Reading a few things it says that because it doesn't permanantly change the stock ECU it only needs to be unplugged. But whether that's completely right or not, I don't know

From memory i would say thats absolutely correct.

Forgive me im old,takes me awhile to remember what i know,lol.To be honest as an old bugger they scare me anyway,when they go bad,which they can (settle young cunts theres plenty of evidence) then you stop,and theres absolutly nothing you can do about it except start pushing.

**wbks** · 5th June 2009, 21:36

Originally Posted by 98tls

From memory i would say thats absolutely correct.

Forgive me im old,takes me awhile to remember what i know,lol.To be honest as an old bugger they scare me anyway,when they go bad,which they can (settle young cunts theres plenty of evidence) then you stop,and theres absolutly nothing you can do about it except start pushing.

Forgive me, I'm young and dumb, takes me a while go unscathed by people that know what they're talking about

At this point I don't really care about an extra few HP through the rev range, I'm just glad to get this bike

**98tls** · 5th June 2009, 21:45

Originally Posted by wbks

Forgive me, I'm young and dumb, takes me a while go unscathed by people that know what they're talking about

At this point I don't really care about an extra few HP through the rev range, I'm just glad to get this bike

No worries mate,methinks your good to go.Take care on it eh.

**Taz** · 5th June 2009, 21:48

And definately no "bugger I dropped it" threads in the near future ok?

**Gremlin** · 5th June 2009, 22:40

Originally Posted by puddytat

Quite normal I think to have flat spots in acceleration...though you'd think the PC would've sorted that...

There are plenty of people out there that think simply adding a PCIII will magically fix all the problems. In reality, it does absolutely nothing, unless its preloaded with a map (normally comes with a zero map - ie, no changes).

Originally Posted by 98tls

Out of interest i wondered about when unplugging a power commander does the ecu need to be 0d?

no 98tls, the PCIII doesn't affect the stock ECU at all, unless there are different models out there. The standard PCIII plugs in, in between the ecu and the engine, in line, as such. It receives the signals sent by the ecu, adjusts them by the amount in the map (which basically contains small positive and negative numbers, to "adjust" the received signal) and sends the new number to the engine.

Creating the custom map, or using one of the net, is simply a grid of numbers (you can open the map with the PC Software), which is adjusted to fix areas where it is rich/lean.

Powercommanders retail for approximately NZ$700, in NZ. Cheaper from overseas, 2nd hand etc.

**98tls** · 5th June 2009, 22:52

Originally Posted by Gremlin

There are plenty of people out there that think simply adding a PCIII will magically fix all the problems. In reality, it does absolutely nothing, unless its preloaded with a map (normally comes with a zero map - ie, no changes).

no 98tls, the PCIII doesn't affect the stock ECU at all, unless there are different models out there. The standard PCIII plugs in, in between the ecu and the engine, in line, as such. It receives the signals sent by the ecu, adjusts them by the amount in the map (which basically contains small positive and negative numbers, to "adjust" the received signal) and sends the new number to the engine.

Creating the custom map, or using one of the net, is simply a grid of numbers (you can open the map with the PC Software), which is adjusted to fix areas where it is rich/lean.

Powercommanders retail for approximately NZ$700, in NZ. Cheaper from overseas, 2nd hand etc.

Cheers,got him sorted.

Have got so old ive forgotten shit i used to know.

**Taz** · 6th June 2009, 14:58

I tried a PCIII on my 79 Guzzi but try as I might I couldn't get it to work with my points and carbs..... But just having it duct taped to the bike has made it lots faster. If I can get a PC sticker I'm sure that'll help too.

**R6_kid:Me** · 6th June 2009, 15:19

Originally Posted by Anthrax

I tried a PCIII on my 79 Guzzi but try as I might I couldn't get it to work with my points and carbs..... But just having it duct taped to the bike has made it lots faster. If I can get a PC sticker I'm sure that'll help too.

Without the sticker there is no point in running the power commander. EVERYONE knows that the power comes from the stickers, not the mods.

**owner** · 6th June 2009, 15:35

my cbr runs at 78 degrees and 103 degrees in town

**SlowHand** · 6th June 2009, 19:43

Having had a K6, sounds a patch up fix to me. You need to replace the general OS that controls the whole bike. Drop it off at my house and it will be fixed.