Speed and the law

**MSTRS:Me** · 21st March 2005, 17:44

Originally Posted by outlawtorn

Sorry dude, but I know nothing of the speed message/brainwashing/propaganda against the collective.

Your earlier posts reflect the propaganda drivel we are fed ad nauseum re speed. I've been riding bikes and speeding (at times that I believe are appropriate) since before you were born according to your profile. I am still here. Nor do I have a long list of traffic convictions either. What most of the members here are saying is unless you can & do speed excessively they are not particularly interested in your stance (refer first sentence)

**mikey** · 21st March 2005, 17:54

minimum sentence if found gui;ty of careless/reckless/dangerous driving (even though your technically riding not driving) is 6 months disqualification and possible time in jail if your a bad ass repeat offender and or fines up to 10000. not many prosecutors go for diversion for this type of ""crime"" sorry bud, try going to a mental hospital for a month!

**outlawtorn** · 21st March 2005, 17:54

Originally Posted by madboy

Look, don't take this the wrong way, but don't you feel that stating your reason for not speeding as financial kinda erodes the safety high ground? People do runners from the cops for exactly the same reason - financial.

Um, I thought I had established my rantings are from a safety point of view?

Originally Posted by Funkyfly

Buy an auto. Scooters have no gears, just twist and go, right up your alley, and they wont exceed 100kph - perfect! Just avoid the open roads and hills.

Thanks for the non-solution funkyfly and BTW my next bike will (hopefully) be a Suzuki Volusia 800, perfect for my daily commute and the odd weekend cruise.

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Your earlier posts reflect the propaganda drivel we are fed ad nauseum re speed. I've been riding bikes and speeding (at times that I believe are appropriate) since before you were born according to your profile. I am still here. Nor do I have a long list of traffic convictions either. What most of the members here are saying is unless you can & do speed excessively they are not particularly interested in your stance (refer first sentence)

Sorry but I have not been aware of the feeding of drivel to you guys, I have only been in the country 8 months, 7 of those months I have been riding to work and back daily. I can understand perfectly why most of you guys don't like my stance, but it is my stance and I will air it to anyone who cares to listen/read. Call me a nana if you wish but I am against reckless riding & speeding.

I didn't realise I'd open myself up for so much flack! Oh well, me and my big mouth again....

**Hitcher** · 21st March 2005, 17:59

Originally Posted by outlawtorn

Thanks for the non-solution funkyfly and BTW my next bike will (hopefully) be a Suzuki Volusia 800, perfect for my daily commute and the odd weekend cruise.

Do you know how much those things weigh? And they've got spokes!! Better to get a Marauder which has the same donk and about 100 fewer kg to haul around.

**outlawtorn** · 21st March 2005, 18:05

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Do you know how much those things weigh? And they've got spokes!! Better to get a Marauder which has the same donk and about 100 fewer kg to haul around.

Off topic I know,

I prefer the look of the Volusia compared to the Marauder, I kinda like that old style Indian look that it has.

**Hitcher** · 21st March 2005, 18:08

Originally Posted by outlawtorn

Off topic I know,

I prefer the look of the Volusia compared to the Marauder, I kinda like that old style Indian look that it has.

Fairy nuff. Americano cruiser mags really like them too. An extinct species now, thanks to Suzuki and that whole "Boulevard" thing...

**R1** · 21st March 2005, 18:09

Originally Posted by SPman

Better borrow Stonechuckers bike, then, - isnt it good for 161 in first?..so they say.....or so I've heard......um........

Yeah i test rode one last year.....all i wanted to see was the shift light...........161 bang on

**handy_dog** · 21st March 2005, 18:13

The cop in this instance was a good'n, he did permit me to ride back into civilisation before presenting me with the obligtory paperwork.
The bike is an old but sound '88 vfr 400 and yes it likes doing this speed occasionly.

**handy_dog** · 21st March 2005, 18:14

Originally Posted by handy_dog

The cop in this instance was a good'n, he did permit me to ride back into civilisation before presenting me with the obligtory paperwork.
The bike is an old but sound '88 vfr 400 and yes it likes doing this speed occasionly.

venture forward with an open mind -
but not so far as your brains fall out.

**Mongoose** · 21st March 2005, 18:36

Originally Posted by handy_dog

venture forward with an open mind -
but not so far as your brains fall out.

Range of punishment around here tends to be: Fine about the same as Max Instant PLUS court costs and six months walking.
An inducement not to piss about and get to court as you Disq. starts at court and not at the end of the compulsory one month roadside Disq.

**MSTRS:Me** · 21st March 2005, 18:41

Originally Posted by outlawtorn

Sorry but I have not been aware of the feeding of drivel to you guys, I have only been in the country 8 months, 7 of those months I have been riding to work and back daily. I can understand perfectly why most of you guys don't like my stance, but it is my stance and I will air it to anyone who cares to listen/read. Call me a nana if you wish but I am against reckless riding & speeding.

I didn't realise I'd open myself up for so much flack! Oh well, me and my big mouth again....

We might call you Zed#2

**Da Bird** · 21st March 2005, 18:50

Did you get a Traffic Offence Notice outlining the actual charge you were going to face...

Most likely would be Dangerous Speed - max $4500 fine, up to 3 months prison (generally only for repeat offenders) and minimum 6 months disqualification...

BC.

**handy_dog** · 21st March 2005, 18:58

Offence notice only states "Exceeding 100 Kph"

**MSTRS:Me** · 21st March 2005, 19:08

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Your earlier posts reflect the propaganda drivel we are fed ad nauseum re speed. I've been riding bikes and speeding (at times that I believe are appropriate) since before you were born according to your profile. I am still here. Nor do I have a long list of traffic convictions either. What most of the members here are saying is unless you can & do speed excessively they are not particularly interested in your stance (refer first sentence)

Just read that again and it might seem that I am glorifying breaking the law. Not so. To clarify - A large number (most?) of us think that rigid enforcement of speed is sometimes inappropriate depending on the time/place of the *event*. To those that toe the party line

and to those that cut some slack depending on above

That goes for HP or anyone else. Most of us have the sense to pick the time & place with care, but accept that we risk being sprung. We only bleat on about the penalties because that's human nature.