Speed and the law

**handy_dog** · 21st March 2005, 13:08

Just looking for advice from the experienced. Managed to get pinged for traveling at 167 o SH1 (100k area) last weekend. 10km of straight road, with only two vehicles on it.
Q. How long till balif shows up?
Q. What is the normal charge?
Q. What sort of penalty is the norm?
Thanks if any one can shed light on this

**Paul in NZ** · 21st March 2005, 13:15

Ouch..... Sorry to hear that mate but I suspect you could be walking for a bit...

Paul N

**James Deuce** · 21st March 2005, 13:28

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/legislation/docs/penalty.rtf

Your "offence" isn't even listed (too fast) on the speeding table, so I suspect you will be facing another charge, with greater repercussions than a "normal" speeding offence.

Sorry dude.This just in from the LTSA site:

"Speeding
Speeding fines progressively increase for speeds in excess of 10 kilometres an hour, with a maximum fine of $630 where the speed is up to 50 kilometres an hour over the limit. Speeds in excess of this limit come into the careless / dangerous / reckless categories depending on circumstances, and also incur a mandatory 28 day licence suspension."

**Joni** · 21st March 2005, 13:32

Originally Posted by Jim2

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/legislation/docs/penalty.rtf

Your "offence" isn't even listed (too fast) on the speeding table, so I suspect you will be facing another charge, with greater repercussions than a "normal" speeding offence.

Sorry dude.This just in from the LTSA site:

"Speeding
Speeding fines progressively increase for speeds in excess of 10 kilometres an hour, with a maximum fine of $630 where the speed is up to 50 kilometres an hour over the limit. Speeds in excess of this limit come into the careless / dangerous / reckless categories depending on circumstances, and also incur a mandatory 28 day licence suspension."

Yup, from the sounds of it - you will be walking for a while Handy dog...

**PSYCHO** · 21st March 2005, 13:35

wrong place at the wrong time eh?

bad luck fella

**madboy** · 21st March 2005, 13:41

Since 167km/h automatically qualifies you as an attempted murderer (so says the LTSA tv ads) I'd say a public lynching will be on the cards. Suggest you sell your bike (have they impounded it, or is it just license?), buy a fake passport and a beach house in south america.

But I've never been pinged at that sorta speed so can't give you any real advice. I'd pretend I was sorry and hope the judge/JP got laid the night before and I might get away with a few hundred fine and a six month disq??

**outlawtorn** · 21st March 2005, 13:43

Don't know how to respond to this one, on one hand I feel like saying:
'sorry dude, bad luck that you got caught'
on the other hand though I am tempted to say
'tough shit, it's your own fault, you could've killed yourself or worse, someone else'.

I say this because I've come back from the Coromandel this weekend with my wife and kids in the car and I had the experience of a few riders riding fucking recklessly past me through dangerous corners and blind hills, all at blistering speeds and that pisses me off, because there is no need for that kind of riding especially around cars, no wonder these speed freaks end up in hospital or coffins, you ride like fucking lunatics around people who do not know how to react to bikes.

**handy_dog** · 21st March 2005, 14:35

To clarify where. The road was straight for nearly 10km and the only vehicles on the road were myself and the law.

**outlawtorn** · 21st March 2005, 14:51

Originally Posted by handy_dog

To clarify where. The road was straight for nearly 10km and the only vehicles on the road were myself and the law.

oh well, this just makes it fine and fucking dandy then doesn't it? On reflection I'm glad you got the fine! Keep the speed for the track, that way if you come of your bike, which hopefully you don't, you can only fuck yourself up and not a family in a car.

**Hitcher** · 21st March 2005, 14:56

I recommend getting in as much riding time as possible between now and your day in Court.

**jrandom** · 21st March 2005, 15:00

Originally Posted by outlawtorn

oh well, this just makes it fine and fucking dandy then doesn't it? On reflection I'm glad you got the fine! Keep the speed for the track, that way if you come of your bike, which hopefully you don't, you can only fuck yourself up and not a family in a car.

Ah, don't be too hard on him, you'd do it too if you had the bike. Probably. Once or twice. And sometimes we get caught, and hopefully learn something about what not to do, afterwards...

And yes, handy_dog, the good chaps who've already posted are most likely correct, you're going to get done for dangerous and be without a licence for a minimum of a month, more likely 3-6, and the fine will probably top a grand. Suck it up and don't get done for the same thing again in the future, because that would just look dumb.

**Ixion** · 21st March 2005, 15:01

Originally Posted by outlawtorn

oh well, this just makes it fine and fucking dandy then doesn't it? On reflection I'm glad you got the fine! Keep the speed for the track, that way if you come of your bike, which hopefully you don't, you can only fuck yourself up and not a family in a car.

guys.

Guess I'd have to say that it's only a bit over the ton, and it's not long ago that was normal cruising speed for bikes and cars in much of NZ.

Which is not to condone carving up Stan and Mabel out for their little run. But it doesn't sound like that's the case here .

So, bad luck, chum, commiserations, and you'll just have to take your medicine like a man. You're

**outlawtorn** · 21st March 2005, 15:04

Originally Posted by jrandom

Ah, don't be too hard on him, you'd do it too if you had the bike. Probably. Once or twice. And sometimes we get caught, and hopefully learn something about what not to do, afterwards...

Don't think I would mate, I've seen more mates having bike and car accidents because of speed, so I choose not to, the fastest I've had my GZ up to is 110kph, and I won't take it any further, there is no need to, if you want thrills have a threesome!!!!