NZ police...

**NDORFN** · 11th June 2009, 11:51

...too soft for the Army!

**MattRSK** · 11th June 2009, 11:55

No they probably just feel like doing real work.

**Rodney007** · 11th June 2009, 12:04

Originally Posted by MattRSK

No they probably just feel like doing real work.

to true

**TLMAN** · 11th June 2009, 12:07

Originally Posted by NDORFN

...too soft for the army!

NDORFN.........

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**short-circuit** · 11th June 2009, 12:18

Originally Posted by NDORFN

...too soft for the Army!

Both too soft for civilian life

**NDORFN** · 11th June 2009, 12:21

Seriously. They need more constructive critisism from the general public. Everyone says that you can bag the police until you need them... the only time I've ever called upon the services of the police is to recover some stolen property, which is what they should be focusing thier attentions on. That and gangs but they're too soft to tackle that one! The reason I started this post was to get people thinking about the comparisons between the attitude of NZ Army personnel and the NZ police staff. What if the NZ police recruits were taken from the Army in the first place, having been selected for having the right attitude for policing. You can't deny the fact that the NZ police are in need of a big fat bite of humble pie, and what better place than the Army.

**MattRSK** · 11th June 2009, 12:27

Originally Posted by NDORFN

Seriously. They need more constructive critisism from the general public. Everyone says that you can bag the police until you need them... the only time I've ever called upon the services of the police is to recover some stolen property, which is what they should be focusing thier attentions on. That and gangs but they're too soft to tackle that one! The reason I started this post was to get people thinking about the comparisons between the attitude of NZ Army personnel and the NZ police staff. What if the NZ police recruits were taken from the Army in the first place, having been selected for having the right attitude for policing. You can't deny the fact that the NZ police are in need of a big fat bite of humble pie, and what better place than the Army.

I don't understand how the army would help? As an electrician I have done a lot of work on the bases around New Zealand, work that was deemed to technical for their own sparkys. While I was there I noticed that most people just sit around doing nothing all day playing computer games in between eating meals.

**short-circuit** · 11th June 2009, 12:29

Originally Posted by NDORFN

Seriously. They need more constructive critisism from the general public. Everyone says that you can bag the police until you need them... the only time I've ever called upon the services of the police is to recover some stolen property, which is what they should be focusing thier attentions on. That and gangs but they're too soft to tackle that one! The reason I started this post was to get people thinking about the comparisons between the attitude of NZ Army personnel and the NZ police staff. What if the NZ police recruits were taken from the Army in the first place, having been selected for having the right attitude for policing. You can't deny the fact that the NZ police are in need of a big fat bite of humble pie, and what better place than the Army.

I agree with MattRSK - not the best population to choose from

**p.dath** · 11th June 2009, 12:35

Originally Posted by NDORFN

Seriously. They need more constructive critisism from the general public. Everyone says that you can bag the police until you need them... the only time I've ever called upon the services of the police is to recover some stolen property, which is what they should be focusing thier attentions on. That and gangs but they're too soft to tackle that one! The reason I started this post was to get people thinking about the comparisons between the attitude of NZ Army personnel and the NZ police staff. What if the NZ police recruits were taken from the Army in the first place, having been selected for having the right attitude for policing. You can't deny the fact that the NZ police are in need of a big fat bite of humble pie, and what better place than the Army.

I've called on the services of the Police about three times. Twice they didn't do anything, and the last time they made it worse and I regretted contacting them.

I wouldn't ask the Police for help now unless I was really depeserate.

**p.dath** · 11th June 2009, 12:36

To be honest, I think I have a lot more respect for our armed services. They are also resource restrained, but still perform well.

**kave** · 11th June 2009, 12:46

When I have required the police they have been worse than useless. I don't blame the policemen though, its their lack of resourcing and that is the fault of the politicians.

These days I only go to the police if I need to make an insurance claim, or if I am in a situation where taking things into my own hands may be a possibility as I don't want to be asked in court why I didn't contact the police first.

I have known police officers socially, and they are no different to you and me (other than an increased degree of cynicism), they desperately want to be able to do a good job, but they are hamstrung. I don't believe that this is a problem that will be solved in the near future, and I don't believe it makes a jot of difference which political party is in power, they are all useless.

**CookMySock** · 11th June 2009, 12:48

Originally Posted by NDORFN

Everyone says that you can bag the police until you need them...

And when you need them.... nah forget it. Waste of fucking time.

Originally Posted by p.dath

I've called on the services of the Police about three times. Twice they didn't do anything, and the last time they made it worse and I regretted contacting them. I wouldn't ask the Police for help now unless I was really depeserate.

Yup.

Originally Posted by NDORFN

The reason I started this post was to get people thinking about the comparisons between the attitude of NZ Army personnel and the NZ police staff. What if the NZ police recruits were taken from the Army in the first place, having been selected for having the right attitude for policing. You can't deny the fact that the NZ police are in need of a big fat bite of humble pie, and what better place than the Army.

Not a dumb idea. Lets do it.

Steve

**Sniper** · 11th June 2009, 12:52

Originally Posted by NDORFN

...too soft for the Army!

Army and cops are bound by different rules. You would find that if the NZ Govt stops being such pussies and stopped worried about hurting gang members feeling, things might start being able to get done. Until then, bitching about it is about equal to bitching about the fact that you cant do 200kph regardless of how safe you believe you are.

Originally Posted by MattRSK

No they probably just feel like doing real work.

Once again, blame the govt.

Originally Posted by TLMAN

NDORFN.........

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**3L4NS1R** · 11th June 2009, 13:03

Originally Posted by NDORFN

Seriously. They need more constructive critisism from the general public. Everyone says that you can bag the police until you need them... the only time I've ever called upon the services of the police is to recover some stolen property, which is what they should be focusing thier attentions on. That and gangs but they're too soft to tackle that one! The reason I started this post was to get people thinking about the comparisons between the attitude of NZ Army personnel and the NZ police staff. What if the NZ police recruits were taken from the Army in the first place, having been selected for having the right attitude for policing. You can't deny the fact that the NZ police are in need of a big fat bite of humble pie, and what better place than the Army.

Different walks of life.

But funny you should make that suggestion. There are a considerable amount of police who are also in the TF (army reserve). I believe the two occupations used to cooperate well together (time off to attend army training was encouraged) but these days it's getting harder and harder for those people to get away from the police job. Another example of police being hamstrung by policy?

**Ixion** · 11th June 2009, 13:09

Originally Posted by p.dath

I've called on the services of the Police about three times. Twice they didn't do anything, and the last time they made it worse and I regretted contacting them.

I wouldn't ask the Police for help now unless I was really depeserate.

Afraid so. Didn't use to be so, but looking to the Police for help nowadays is a waste of time.