BiffBird Down

[gav]

Jeez, what the hell u doing man?!! Think you can play rugby now and race bikes?
So when you buying a track bike? Could be close to a write off, huh?
Hell, impressed that its covered by insurance, good on them. Hope you make a speedy recovery!!

[onearmedbandit]

Sorry to hear that bb, at least you're mostly okay. After Aaron and now you, I just have to know what it is about this corner.

[inlinefour]

Tsk, tsk. Isn't physics marvellous?

It's good to know that at least you're not too banged up.

If your on the recieving end or not. Sorry to hear Biff, going to stick with the bird then I take it?

[dangerous]

Think you can play rugby now and race bikes?
impressed that its covered by insurance, good on them

LMAO......

yeah it is covered by Vero c/o David Golightly as long as there is no flag drop/light start... anotherwords ya not racing.

I just have to know what it is about this corner.

Ummm... its about how fast you can take turn one

[pritch]

At least it is insured

That may be about to change...

There was a concern at Taupo in Feb that after 2 offs at the previous Honda rider development day there shouldn't be any more. Unfortunately yet another guy watched his bike carry on without him.

The broker is probably writing his letter to the Honda R C as I write this...

I was very interested in the original story as to how this incident ocurred. At Taupo it hadn't even ocurred to me to look at the speedo, I was watching the RPM - when I wasn't looking at the other bikes or the track. Then another rider says "I'm doing X kph along the back staight."

So next time out I sneek a peek and its 157 or so. So next lap it's 160 +. Now if I can do that last corner b/4 the straight a bit faster... And if I change this line...

Then I had a vision of a bike sized hole in a billboard.

My aims for the day had been modest, they mainly involved improving my braking technique, getting used to travelling at speed on a bike after a gap of some years, and picking up any useful tips from the experts along the way.. To change these aims so as to be increasing my speed each lap was a radical departure and not entirely appropriate to a "rider development day".

A little re-thinking off the bike got the thing back on schedule.

Another rider came in early from a session and I asked the question, he explained that his riding was getting a bit hairy so he thought he had better come in before he binned it.

I don't think that's a bad option

[SPman]

Ummm... its about how fast you can take turn one

and survive..........

[Sensei]

Hard riding end's in hard crashes . Good to hear ya OK Now this is why Link braking is not suppose to be on Fucken bike's . My view only but it should be Outlawed !!!!
SENSEI

[inlinefour]

Hard riding end's in hard crashes . Good to hear ya OK Now this is why Link braking is not suppose to be on Fucken bike's . My view only but it should be Outlawed !!!!
SENSEI

I know nothing about this topic and until this day actually did not even know that some bikes had it. Guess it does not help with racing though...

[**R1**]

Ok – starting next Tuesday – otherwise you’ve got a weeks head start on me!


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Mine looked worse

[Skyryder]

Hard riding end's in hard crashes . Good to hear ya OK Now this is why Link braking is not suppose to be on Fucken bike's . My view only but it should be Outlawed !!!!
SENSEI

I noticed that BB said that the rear brake was linked when the front handleaver was operated. My Cali has linked brakes but these are operated by the rear brake pedal. I'm no racer but I use my brakes prior to the entry of a corner when the bike is upright and 90 degrees to the road. I have been known to hit them hard at times and the bike has responded accordingly. In fact I like them but I don't ride that close to the edge. I have always believed that if you have to break once you have entered the a corner then you have come in too fast. Any other ideas on this??

Skyryder

[Two Smoker]

I noticed that BB said that the rear brake was linked when the front handleaver was operated. My Cali has linked brakes but these are operated by the rear brake pedal. I'm no racer but I use my brakes prior to the entry of a corner when the bike is upright and 90 degrees to the road. I have been known to hit them hard at times and the bike has responded accordingly. In fact I like them but I don't ride that close to the edge. I have always believed that if you have to break once you have entered the a corner then you have come in too fast. Any other ideas on this??

Skyryder

Yeah im pretty sure it is that way on the Blackbird too....

[Hitcher]

I have always believed that if you have to break once you have entered the a corner then you have come in too fast. Any other ideas on this??

Apart from the spelling of brake, I concur entirely.

I suspect that Honda's most excellent linked braking system is copping some bad press here from somebody who overcooked a corner and got on the brakes too hard in a vain attempt at pulling off a "Hail Mary" manouever. The linked brakes may well have saved Biff from a "death stoppie".

Going for the doctor with the front brake lever on Hondas linked brake system will engage the rear brake but it won't lock it up on a good firm surface.

[Hitcher]

Yeah im pretty sure it is that way on the Blackbird too....

No. Honda's linked brakes are linked both ways. The front brake on its own works the outside pots (triple pots front and rear) on the front and the inside pot on the rear. The rear brake on its own works the outside pots on the rear and the inside pot on the front. Applying both brakes together works all the pots. On a clean dry road you can stop 300kg of ST1300 on a dime, nice and linear, no nose dive.

[dangerous]

Hard riding end's in hard crashes . Good to hear ya OK Now this is why Link braking is not suppose to be on Fucken bike's . My view only but it should be Outlawed !!!!
SENSEI

ahhhh bullshit man...... once you have mastered the art of the linked brake, its a awesome thing.
Now remember I had BB's bird out at the track last Friday and while it had a very differant feel to it after a couple of laps I had got quite used to them and as Hitcher says they stop ya bloody quick... I was impressed with them.

[gav]

Yeah I think its something like 70/30 front/back when using front brake lever and
60/40 back/front when using rear brake. Youre right, Hitcher, if BB had used just rear brake he probably would have still crashed at the speed he was doing, use to be alot of rocks and dirt and shit off that corner, as I found err once or twice