BiffBird Down

**TonyB** · 23rd March 2005, 21:29

Shit Biff, that's bloody terrible news! The bike doesn't look too bad in the pics, but then I guess it's not so hot when you see it for real?
From reading pritch008's post and from your experience today, it looks like worrying about your top speed on the straight is a bad idea eh! Thats something I'm guilty of- might have to tape over the speedo next time I head out there.

**bugjuice** · 23rd March 2005, 21:39

shit news dude.. glad you walked from it, next time a few k slower, or turn in a bit sooner? hate fast corners when a fraction of a second just balls up your day.. Hope the bike all points the same way, doesn't look to bad from the pics, but then the pics never tell the whole story!
Hope it's quick, and hope you ain't too sore in the morning (that's when it'll really kick in!!). Kinda luckly your insurance guy was there, not many people have such prompt responce!

Bad luck dude, keep us posted!

**wkid_one** · 23rd March 2005, 21:43

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Apart from the spelling of brake, I concur entirely.

I suspect that Honda's most excellent linked braking system is copping some bad press here from somebody who overcooked a corner and got on the brakes too hard in a vain attempt at pulling off a "Hail Mary" manouever. The linked brakes may well have saved Biff from a "death stoppie".

Going for the doctor with the front brake lever on Hondas linked brake system will engage the rear brake but it won't lock it up on a good firm surface.

Ditto to those comments - funny how one, in this PC world, is quick to abidicate responsibility in favour of blaming the brakes.....how does the saying going 'A workman doesn't.........'

**hobdar** · 23rd March 2005, 21:50

Man i hope your ok and you and your bike gets mended quick...

**TonyB** · 23rd March 2005, 21:54

If you are entering a corner too fast and trying to scrub speed while cornering the back wheel is going to be unloaded, right? If you are using the back brake in this situation it is pretty likely to let go, with the result being the back end trying to overtake the front, so with a linked brake system it must be more likely to happen.

**sAsLEX** · 23rd March 2005, 21:55

some racers dont even use the back, I think its more of what your comfortable with. Even if you have the newest bestest brakes if your not comfortable with them it aint going to work.

**dangerous** · 23rd March 2005, 21:57

Originally Posted by TonyB

If you are entering a corner too fast and trying to scrub speed while cornering the back wheel is going to be unloaded, right? If you are using the back brake in this situation it is pretty likely to let go, with the result being the back end trying to overtake the front, so with a linked brake system it must be more likely to happen.

naa, funny thing is it dosent feel like that at all..... but if you have over cooked it that bad and dont use the rear... then I'd think that theres a real danger of the frount lettin go.

**Sensei** · 23rd March 2005, 22:12

Originally Posted by dangerous

ahhhh bullshit man...... once you have mastered the art of the linked brake, its a awesome thing.

Bullshit to what ?? Link braking on bike's ?? as posted "My VIEW ONLY "
Why don't GP / SBK have it on them if it's that great ?????????????
Because it isn't . Look at the bike's they put it on Hardly Race bike's are they !!
SENSEI

**wkid_one** · 23rd March 2005, 22:16

[QUOTE=Sensei 509]

Originally Posted by dangerous

ahhhh bullshit man...... once you have mastered the art of the linked brake, its a awesome thing.

Bullshit to what ?? Link braking on bike's ?? as posted "My VIEW ONLY "
Why don't GP / SBK have it on them if it's that great ?????????????
Because it isn't . Look at the bike's they put it on Hardly Race bike's are they !!
SENSEI

Same reason F1 didn't want traction control and WRC cars don't run ABS brakes - they prefer to have more control in ABNORMAL driving conditions.

Also - with linked brakes reversing the bike in to the corner couldn't be achieved. most people on the road choose not to opt for this cornering technique

Think about your statements before you ask them

**PSYCHO** · 23rd March 2005, 22:23

Sorry to hear you "biffed" , biff.

I've had a few close calls myself at turn 1.

The "bird" would look mighty mean in black.

**Aaron** · 23rd March 2005, 22:49

Oh man... that really sucks. Good to hear you're ok, sounds like the safety gear did it's work.

I can relate... thread coming soon

**gav** · 23rd March 2005, 23:49

[QUOTE=Sensei 509]

Originally Posted by dangerous

ahhhh bullshit man...... once you have mastered the art of the linked brake, its a awesome thing.

Bullshit to what ?? Link braking on bike's ?? as posted "My VIEW ONLY "
Why don't GP / SBK have it on them if it's that great ?????????????
Because it isn't . Look at the bike's they put it on Hardly Race bike's are they !!
SENSEI

Well, they have in the past!

John Kocinski rode with the Combined Braking System on the Castrol Honda, err so there!

And the mighty Nissan Bluebird isnt a friggen race bike, so don't blame the bike, blame the rider whos spending more time looking at the speedo rather than where he's going

**gav** · 23rd March 2005, 23:53

Sorry to hijack a thread but F1??? WTF have they done?? Ferrari retire a perfectly good car because the tires have worn out!! This isnt a friggen club day is it? Engines have to last two meetings? Why? Costs???? If ya can't afford it, you shouldnt be out there, rather see control tires and decent pit stops than this crap, surely it can't last all season, can it? Just a joke!!!

**Sensei** · 24th March 2005, 00:01

[QUOTE=gav]Well, they have in the past!

John Kocinski rode with the Combined Braking System on the Castrol Honda, err so there!

Thanks GAV for that FACT . All ready know it but good to read about it again . :spudwhat:
SENSEI

**dangerous** · 24th March 2005, 05:59

Morning Biff...... hows the bumps n brusies today? hurts a bit more these days aye

Originally Posted by Sensei 509

Bullshit to what ??
Link braking on bike's ?? as posted "My VIEW ONLY "
Why don't GP / SBK have it on them if it's that great ?????????????
SENSEI

Yeah mate..... Bullshit to "Link braking is not suppose to be on Fucken bike's
it should be Outlawed" (I know its your view only, I have one too)
We are talking about a sport tourer here not a bloody GP/SBK bike... yeah sure they arnt the best idea on the track, I rearley use rear brakes in such suituations........ but as for out there touring in style like the Bird is built for.... linked brakes are the muts nuts 'my view only'

Originally Posted by Sensei 509

Link braking is not suppose to be on Fucken bike's
My view only but it should be Outlawed !!!!
SENSEI