Riding your own ride

[carver]

Not wishing to sound calous BUT do none of you ever think when heading out on the road that one day one of you won't come back, that you may come across a messy crash, that it may be somebody you know?

I know I do, it's part of Real Life(tm)

oh yeah, but who gives a fuck, thats life, thats the chance that you/they take.
you just happen to be there at the time

[howdamnhard]

Agreed with the "stopping and having a chat" option.

Been there and done that and it worked out well.But you have to be fortunate enough to actually see them struggling. Not so easy if they are behind you and you are concentrating on the road in front of you.

[Ixion]

Every time. And the somebody I know best is me. Every time I start up I wait for Death (no, not Andy, the bony one) to climb on behind.

Thing is, bikers who accept they're going to die, often don't. Those who are certain they won't , often do.

[Katman]

I've said it before and I'll say it again........

Sites like this have a lot to answer for. It is far too easy for like minded fuckheads to organise a ride that is destined for sadness.

[carver]

I've said it before and I'll say it again........

Sites like this have a lot to answer for. It is far too easy for like minded fuckheads to organise a ride that is destined for sadness.

i dont think the organizers have anything to answer for.
a briefing would have been a good idea, but we cant make people ride a certain way, they have to choose.

[Squiggles]

i dont think the organizers have anything to answer for.
a briefing would have been a good idea, but we cant make people ride a certain way, they have to choose.

Read between the lines, rather than the literal meaning of our posts...

[DEATH_INC.]

I've said it before and I'll say it again........

Sites like this have a lot to answer for. It is far too easy for like minded fuckheads to organise a ride that is destined for sadness.

YOU have no idea what happened. Fuck off.

[Ixion]

Am I my brother's keeper ?

[Katman]

i dont think the organizers have anything to answer for.
a briefing would have been a good idea, but we cant make people ride a certain way, they have to choose.

Maybe the 'organizers' need to think about what it is they're organizing.

[carver]

Read between the lines, rather than the literal meaning of our posts...

yeah, it can/could/has happen, but not on saturday.

once again

everyone chooses

[Katman]

Am I my brother's keeper ?

Cain was not a good role model.

[carver]

Maybe the 'organizers' need to think about what it is they're organizing.

rules for any MFSC ride are No Rules
your expected to look after yourself, as you know best.

[Ixion]

Maybe the 'organizers' need to think about what it is they're organizing.

A valid point if a ride is posted up as "learner friendly" or "newbie" or such like. But when its posted up as "Fast blast by experienced riders, other such welcome to join", the I don't think any imputation can be made. Those whpo join in must make their own call: either "keep up" (and all that entails) , or accept being the "arrives at the pub as everyone else is finishing their lunch". Like me. No harm done, if you're slow enough, the kitchen has finished all the fast riders' orders and you don't have to wait.

Sometimes, shit just happens. Things can be overanalyzed.

[Katman]

A valid point if a ride is posted up as "learner friendly" or "newbie" or such like. But when its posted up as "Fast blast by experienced riders, other such welcome to join", the I don't think any imputation can be made. Those whpo join in must make their own call: either "keep up" (and all that entails) , or accept being the "arrives at the pub as everyone else is finishing their lunch". Like me. No harm done, if you're slow enough, the kitchen has finished all the fast riders' orders and you don't have to wait.

Sometimes, shit just happens. Things can be overanalyzed.

The whole "if you try to keep up but don't have the skills to do so, it's no problem of mine" concept is a sad indictment on our current society.

[U1AGO]

I have been ridding for some time now and have attended many training days, however still consider my self new and inexperienced. I don’t post much. This said with the group ride on Saturday, Death did a good job with organizing the ride. I feel that a fantastic day was had by all until the incident. If Organizers are going to be dragged over the hot coils when the unfortunate happens, I think we would have less and less organized rides to go on.

With regard to new rides telling them to ride with in there limits, I think the next sentence told to them should be the limit is not a target. I personally only ride to 60% or 70% of that limit as if your at the limit there is little to no room for error.

Ps nice to have met you carver hope next time we can talk more.

My thoughts and condolence go out the family and friends of the fallen.